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Dear lerned Gurus and list members,

 

I understand that a natural malefic/benefic can have benefic/malefic actions according the lagna.

I have two questions however :

 

1- When looking at a chart, in what area does the natural tendency manifest and

the functional tendency manifest? For example in a Ge lagna, Ju being lord of

two kendra houses is a functional malefic, or even more so for a Li lagna. Will

Ju be then harmful everywhere or in some areas only? I would guess, for example

that Ju will still bring some inherent goodness (unless deeply afflicted) but

will harm the house he conjoins or aspects but not the one he owns... Please

comment...

 

2- Does the functional status (of the rasi) remain for all the divisional charts

or does it change from one divisional chart to another? I would think (in fact

it is only a wish) that the functional status would change from one varga to

another.

 

Another unrelated question. As the rasi is the main chart, it would be incorrect

to analyse an area only with the corresponding varga. The seed is the Rasi. But

this suggest then that whatever positive or negative effect we find in the

varga, there should be a clue from the Rasi through the karaka, the bhava and

the aspects-argala on them. And vice-versa. Please comment...

 

Franck

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Dear Franck,

 

Here is the analogy I gave earlier: A natural benefic who becomes a

functional malefic is like a nice person who is going against you. He

will be decent, but hurt you. A natural malefic who becomes a

functional benefic is like a crutel person who helps you. He will be

crutel and mean, but help you.

 

Functional nature depends on lagna. Just as we interpret each

divisional chart based on its own lagna, the functional nature has to

be identified based on that lagna.

 

For Rajiv Gandhi, for example, Jupiter is a functional benefic in

rasi and dasamsa. In Jupiter antardasa in Rahu dasa, for example, he

rose in career (D-10) and experienced power (5th) in the physical

plane (rasi) too. However, Jupiter is a functional malefic in D-12.

He experienced misfortune relating to mother - she was assassinated.

The same planet can give good results in one sphere of life and very

bad results in another.

 

May Jupiter's light shine on us,

Narasimha

 

> Dear lerned Gurus and list members,

>

> I understand that a natural malefic/benefic can have

benefic/malefic actions

> according the lagna.

> I have two questions however :

>

> 1- When looking at a chart, in what area does the natural tendency

manifest

> and the functional tendency manifest? For example in a Ge lagna, Ju

being

> lord of two kendra houses is a functional malefic, or even more so

for a Li

> lagna. Will Ju be then harmful everywhere or in some areas only? I

would

> guess, for example that Ju will still bring some inherent goodness

(unless

> deeply afflicted) but will harm the house he conjoins or aspects

but not the

> one he owns... Please comment...

>

> 2- Does the functional status (of the rasi) remain for all the

divisional

> charts or does it change from one divisional chart to another? I

would think

> (in fact it is only a wish) that the functional status would change

from one

> varga to another.

>

> Another unrelated question. As the rasi is the main chart, it would

be

> incorrect to analyse an area only with the corresponding varga. The

seed is

> the Rasi. But this suggest then that whatever positive or negative

effect we

> find in the varga, there should be a clue from the Rasi through the

karaka,

> the bhava and the aspects-argala on them. And vice-versa. Please

comment...

>

> Franck

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I think natural benefics effects are affected in static or permenant way such as

aspects of Jupiter is always benefic.also when planet is in transit, based on

its natural benefic or malefic, result will be felt.

Functional effects are more observed in when that planets dasha starts .That

means affects of functional beneficness or maleficness are dynamic.If that

planet is fucntionally malefic based on lagna, result of malefic during his

dasha or antardasha.

Please correct me.

Minu Desai

"pvr108 <pvr (AT) charter (DOT) net>" <pvr (AT) charter (DOT) net> wrote:

Dear Franck,Here is the analogy I gave earlier: A natural benefic who becomes a

functional malefic is like a nice person who is going against you. He will be

decent, but hurt you. A natural malefic who becomes a functional benefic is

like a crutel person who helps you. He will be crutel and mean, but help

you.Functional nature depends on lagna. Just as we interpret each divisional

chart based on its own lagna, the functional nature has to be identified based

on that lagna.For Rajiv Gandhi, for example, Jupiter is a functional benefic in

rasi and dasamsa. In Jupiter antardasa in Rahu dasa, for example, he rose in

career (D-10) and experienced power (5th) in the physical plane (rasi) too.

However, Jupiter is a functional malefic in D-12. He experienced misfortune

relating to mother - she was assassinated. The same planet can give good

results in one sphere of life and very bad results in another.May Jupiter's

light shine on us,Narasimha> Dear lerned Gurus and list members,> > I

understand that a natural malefic/benefic can have benefic/malefic actions>

according the lagna.> I have two questions however :> > 1- When looking at a

chart, in what area does the natural tendency manifest> and the functional

tendency manifest? For example in a Ge lagna, Ju being> lord of two kendra

houses is a functional malefic, or even more so for a Li> lagna. Will Ju be

then harmful everywhere or in some areas only? I would> guess, for example that

Ju will still bring some inherent goodness (unless> deeply afflicted) but will

harm the house he conjoins or aspects but not the> one he owns... Please

comment...> > 2- Does the functional status (of the rasi) remain for all the

divisional> charts or does it change from one divisional chart to another? I

would think> (in fact it is only a wish) that the functional status would

change from one> varga to another.> > Another unrelated question. As the rasi

is the main chart, it would be> incorrect to analyse an area only with the

corresponding varga. The seed is> the Rasi. But this suggest then that whatever

positive or negative effect we> find in the varga, there should be a clue from

the Rasi through the karaka,> the bhava and the aspects-argala on them. And

vice-versa. Please comment...> > FranckArchives:

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i agree as mithuna lagan seggi is functional melefic

i have a lady come to me she is going in saturan

major dasa and her saturn is exalted in libra fifth

house moon is in eightth house so her jupitor exalted

moon oppose saggitarius ketu in seventh house

so i suggeget her she should not displease her husband

 

going to a guru though women nirmala sahaj yoga as her

husband is satvik and dont blieve sahaj yogo way as

they do parshadam with meat to nirmala he thinks it is

devil women worship if meat come there so lady have

lot ofproblem with her marriage and kids follow her as

she thinks mata nirmala is god

i suugget her home harmony will be destroyed if she

keep on going there

is it temporary or after sat period she will leave the

path i dont think they will divorce as they have 3

girl and 5 yr old boy

i went to the grp with her too it did not impress me

rajinder

--- "pvr108 <pvr" <pvr

wrote:

> Dear Franck,

>

> Here is the analogy I gave earlier: A natural

> benefic who becomes a

> functional malefic is like a nice person who is

> going against you. He

> will be decent, but hurt you. A natural malefic who

> becomes a

> functional benefic is like a crutel person who helps

> you. He will be

> crutel and mean, but help you.

>

> Functional nature depends on lagna. Just as we

> interpret each

> divisional chart based on its own lagna, the

> functional nature has to

> be identified based on that lagna.

>

> For Rajiv Gandhi, for example, Jupiter is a

> functional benefic in

> rasi and dasamsa. In Jupiter antardasa in Rahu dasa,

> for example, he

> rose in career (D-10) and experienced power (5th) in

> the physical

> plane (rasi) too. However, Jupiter is a functional

> malefic in D-12.

> He experienced misfortune relating to mother - she

> was assassinated.

> The same planet can give good results in one sphere

> of life and very

> bad results in another.

>

> May Jupiter's light shine on us,

> Narasimha

>

> > Dear lerned Gurus and list members,

> >

> > I understand that a natural malefic/benefic can

> have

> benefic/malefic actions

> > according the lagna.

> > I have two questions however :

> >

> > 1- When looking at a chart, in what area does the

> natural tendency

> manifest

> > and the functional tendency manifest? For example

> in a Ge lagna, Ju

> being

> > lord of two kendra houses is a functional malefic,

> or even more so

> for a Li

> > lagna. Will Ju be then harmful everywhere or in

> some areas only? I

> would

> > guess, for example that Ju will still bring some

> inherent goodness

> (unless

> > deeply afflicted) but will harm the house he

> conjoins or aspects

> but not the

> > one he owns... Please comment...

> >

> > 2- Does the functional status (of the rasi) remain

> for all the

> divisional

> > charts or does it change from one divisional chart

> to another? I

> would think

> > (in fact it is only a wish) that the functional

> status would change

> from one

> > varga to another.

> >

> > Another unrelated question. As the rasi is the

> main chart, it would

> be

> > incorrect to analyse an area only with the

> corresponding varga. The

> seed is

> > the Rasi. But this suggest then that whatever

> positive or negative

> effect we

> > find in the varga, there should be a clue from the

> Rasi through the

> karaka,

> > the bhava and the aspects-argala on them. And

> vice-versa. Please

> comment...

> >

> > Franck

>

>

>

 

 

 

 

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