6th/8th/12th lords in their own houses = VRY???

[Guest guest]

> Also VRY is formed when lords of 6th/8th/12th exchange houses in

any

> combination like 6th lord in 8th and vice versa. Also I think

> 6th/8th/12th Lords in any dusthsthana(6th/8th/12th) are considered

as

> similar to VRY, provided the lords are not in their own houses

 

Why is 6th/8th/12th lords occupying their own houses not considered

VRY?

 

 

 

vedic astrology, "Rajesh Mohan Kumaria

<rajeshkumaria2000>" <rajeshkumaria2000> wrote:

>

> Well Retrograde planets behave as exhalted planets, provided theu

are

> not in their sign of exaltation. In general they make the person

very

> ambitious(materialism wise or spriptaulism wise depening upon

> placement, nature etc)., However they result in denial of fruits or

> rather say the expectations are very high and the achievements do

not

> satisfy the person concerned.

>

> Also VRY is formed when lords of 6th/8th/12th exchange houses in

any

> combination like 6th lord in 8th and vice versa. Also I think

> 6th/8th/12th Lords in any dusthsthana(6th/8th/12th) are considered

as

> similar to VRY, provided the lords are not in their own houses. Now

> Saturn in 8th house for Libra is a VRY or not, that's hard to say

> from these rules. However Saturn being a natural malefic in 8th

> house , could be considered a good yoga since malefics are good in

> dusthasthanas. So may be its a type of VRY by this angle. hope it

> helps. Rajesh Kumaria

>

>

> vedic astrology, "krueger_ralf

<ani_ana@h...>"

> <ani_ana@h...> wrote:

> > I remember reading somewhere in Sri SRath's lectures

> > that Saturn as a YogaKarak (Libra/Taurus) and posited

> > in the 8th house constitues VRY.

> >

> > Please comment on this. Any feedback is appreciated.

> > What happens if Saturn is Retrograde in addition.

[Guest guest]

Here are some of my humble thoughts:

 

Harsha yoga : if the 6th lord occupies the 6th house, then this yoga

is present and it gives joy, strength and invincible nature. but in

real life I have seen a person with this yoga(Libra Lagna) who had

Jupiter in 6th house and he ran a mixed Jupiter dasa, which was full

of financial gains, huge financial losses and normal life (more or

less). Its hardly qualifies as VRY although treated as VRY as given

by Shri B.V.Raman and Shri PVR Rao(with all due regards), since most

of the money earned by that person was in previous Rahu Dasa and in

jupiter dasa, he had just normal job victories plus huge financial

expenditures and defeats everywhere, infact he lost his status in

real terms and is still struggling now after 14 years of Jupiter

dasa. VRY means great financial success after great struggles.

 

Vimala Yoga: if12th Lord occupies 12th house, then one is noble,

happy and independent. I personally have this yoga but infact during

my Saturn Dasa(Aquarius Lagna), I have actually gone from great

success to great present struggle. So may be VRY is working now? I do

not think so..since I only expect to return to normal circumstances

only and not expecting any magical/great riches etc.,

 

Sarla Yoga: If 8th Lord occupies 8th house, then one is long lived,

fearless and prosperous. So is it a VRY? when 6th lord in 6th and

12th lord in 12th can give mix results, then obviously this is also

not a VRY by similar logic. Infact whoever I know is struggling

desperately during the anatrdasas and mahdasas of 8th Lords. I have

yet to see someone reaching great material success with this

combination. Moreover there are several other yogas in effect at the

very same time and we need mahadasa/antardasa effects to prove a

clear cut case with such a yoga. Also 8th lord in 8th can also mean

great ancestral properties, but then its hardly a VRY in that case.

 

Infact VRY by definition demands very clear struggles and great

everlasting material success of extreme nature. Yes you can say that

the above yogas are similar to VRY during certain durations of time.

That's all I know. Also I think VRY means the success achieved by

King who was in exile and had to struggle in forests for several

years , to regain his kingdom from enemies and not like 6th lord in

6th, when enemy(like financial expenses and other career related

hurdles) becomes victorious alternately aand so on and so forth..all

the best. Rajesh Kumaria.

 

 

vedic astrology, "indigenius

<indigenius>" <indigenius> wrote:

> > Also VRY is formed when lords of 6th/8th/12th exchange houses in

> any

> > combination like 6th lord in 8th and vice versa. Also I think

> > 6th/8th/12th Lords in any dusthsthana(6th/8th/12th) are

considered

> as

> > similar to VRY, provided the lords are not in their own houses

>

> Why is 6th/8th/12th lords occupying their own houses not considered

> VRY?

>

>

>

> vedic astrology, "Rajesh Mohan Kumaria

> <rajeshkumaria2000>" <rajeshkumaria2000> wrote:

> >

> > Well Retrograde planets behave as exhalted planets, provided theu

> are

> > not in their sign of exaltation. In general they make the person

> very

> > ambitious(materialism wise or spriptaulism wise depening upon

> > placement, nature etc)., However they result in denial of fruits

or

> > rather say the expectations are very high and the achievements do

> not

> > satisfy the person concerned.

> >

> > Also VRY is formed when lords of 6th/8th/12th exchange houses in

> any

> > combination like 6th lord in 8th and vice versa. Also I think

> > 6th/8th/12th Lords in any dusthsthana(6th/8th/12th) are

considered

> as

> > similar to VRY, provided the lords are not in their own houses.

Now

> > Saturn in 8th house for Libra is a VRY or not, that's hard to say

> > from these rules. However Saturn being a natural malefic in 8th

> > house , could be considered a good yoga since malefics are good

in

> > dusthasthanas. So may be its a type of VRY by this angle. hope

it

> > helps. Rajesh Kumaria

> >

> >

> > vedic astrology, "krueger_ralf

> <ani_ana@h...>"

> > <ani_ana@h...> wrote:

> > > I remember reading somewhere in Sri SRath's lectures

> > > that Saturn as a YogaKarak (Libra/Taurus) and posited

> > > in the 8th house constitues VRY.

> > >

> > > Please comment on this. Any feedback is appreciated.

> > > What happens if Saturn is Retrograde in addition.