Guest guest Posted December 2, 2002 Report Share Posted December 2, 2002 Hi friends any one of you can tell me about influence of Jupiter and ketu in 12th house for tula lagna where lagna lord venus is in 6th house (meena) along with Rahu. Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now. http://mailplus. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 2, 2002 Report Share Posted December 2, 2002 Well this is also another form of Guru-Chandala yoga and the info. I have says that Jupiter and Ketu combination (general effects) are unorthodox behaviour, agnostic, refined and sensitive thinking and erratic fortunes. Also you should not ignore the aspect between Rahu and Jupiter (The Guru Chandala yoga)which indicates materialistic behaviour, selfish, confused thinking and unfirendly. Actually guru Chandala yoga will ideally lead to madness as per the books, but due to the influence of Lagna Lord Venus, the native shall remane sane and in control of such madness. There are lots of articles on Guru Chandala yoga and you will need to analyse the full chart before reaching any final conclusions. These are very general trends only. all the best.(seems to me that Guru takes ones to temples while chandala takes one to graveyards causing the pain, but Venus controls it somehow...) Rajesh Kumaria. vedic astrology, ramana mv <mvr_ramana> wrote: > Hi friends > any one of you can tell me about influence of > Jupiter and ketu in 12th house for tula lagna where > lagna lord venus is in 6th house (meena) along with Rahu. > > > > Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now. > http://mailplus. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 3, 2002 Report Share Posted December 3, 2002 Hi,rajeshkumaria and friends for the Tula lagna chart Mars is in 2nd house, Moon in 5th, Venus and Rahu in 6th, Sun and Saturn in 7th Mercury in 8th (Vargotham) Jupiter and ketu in 12th. What will be the prospects of of Rahu sub period in Mercurie's Dasa (Prsent DASA - Mercury sub lord dasa Rahu). The person had done his M.Tech and working as Scietist in ISRO. Is he going to continue in Govt. job or going to swith over to Private. What will be the effect of Jupiter and Ketu in 12th house. --- Rajesh Mohan Kumaria <rajeshkumaria2000 wrote: > Well this is also another form of Guru-Chandala yoga > and the info. I > have says that Jupiter and Ketu combination (general > effects) are > unorthodox behaviour, agnostic, refined and > sensitive thinking and > erratic fortunes. Also you should not ignore the > aspect between Rahu > and Jupiter (The Guru Chandala yoga)which indicates > materialistic > behaviour, selfish, confused thinking and > unfirendly. Actually guru > Chandala yoga will ideally lead to madness as per > the books, but due > to the influence of Lagna Lord Venus, the native > shall remane sane > and in control of such madness. There are lots of > articles on Guru > Chandala yoga and you will need to analyse the full > chart before > reaching any final conclusions. These are very > general trends only. > all the best.(seems to me that Guru takes ones to > temples while > chandala takes one to graveyards causing the pain, > but Venus controls > it somehow...) Rajesh Kumaria. > > vedic astrology, ramana mv > <mvr_ramana> wrote: > > Hi friends > > any one of you can tell me about influence of > > Jupiter and ketu in 12th house for tula lagna > where > > lagna lord venus is in 6th house (meena) along > with Rahu. > > > > > > > > Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up > now. > > http://mailplus. > > Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now. http://mailplus. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 3, 2002 Report Share Posted December 3, 2002 Hi to all, well I must say that I am surprised with "I have says that Jupiter and Ketu combination (general effects) are unorthodox behaviour, agnostic, refined and sensitive thinking and erratic fortunes. Also you should not ignore the aspect between Rahu and Jupiter (The Guru Chandala yoga)which indicates materialistic behaviour, selfish, confused thinking and unfirendly. Actually guru Chandala yoga will ideally lead to madness as per the books". Please clarify that to me since I have Jupiter and Ketu in 4th under dristi of Rahu of course and also I've heard that this combination is very beneficial for the native? Best regards Ognjen - Rajesh Mohan Kumaria vedic astrology Tuesday, December 03, 2002 8:22 AM [vedic astrology] Re: influence of ketu in 12th house with jupiter Well this is also another form of Guru-Chandala yoga and the info. I have says that Jupiter and Ketu combination (general effects) are unorthodox behaviour, agnostic, refined and sensitive thinking and erratic fortunes. Also you should not ignore the aspect between Rahu and Jupiter (The Guru Chandala yoga)which indicates materialistic behaviour, selfish, confused thinking and unfirendly. Actually guru Chandala yoga will ideally lead to madness as per the books, but due to the influence of Lagna Lord Venus, the native shall remane sane and in control of such madness. There are lots of articles on Guru Chandala yoga and you will need to analyse the full chart before reaching any final conclusions. These are very general trends only. all the best.(seems to me that Guru takes ones to temples while chandala takes one to graveyards causing the pain, but Venus controls it somehow...) Rajesh Kumaria.vedic astrology, ramana mv <mvr_ramana> wrote:> Hi friends > any one of you can tell me about influence of > Jupiter and ketu in 12th house for tula lagna where> lagna lord venus is in 6th house (meena) along with Rahu.> > > > Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now.> http://mailplus.Archives: vedic astrologyGroup info: vedic astrology/info.htmlTo UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology-....... May Jupiter's light shine on us ....... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 3, 2002 Report Share Posted December 3, 2002 Hi, well there is no need to be surprized, since I was only quoting standard behaviour as mentioned in varioous articles and books. Infact these things become obvious only when you/some one close to you passes through various antardashas/mahadashas of Rahu and Ketu. I have observed this madness in various people for yers when they were passing through their Rahu mahadasas and the side effects on others due to their unpredicatble behaviour, especially Rahu-Moon cojunction can cause severe madness/unpredictable behaviour unless and until a natural benefic/functional benefic aspects this combination. Also Jupiter's aspects on various planets except Rahu are considered generally auspicios as Jupiter activates the signs aspectsed by it as well as the planets aspected by it. However in case Jupiter activates malefic planets then it can cause controversial results which can be harmful also. In any case I have sen that Jupiter/Ketu aand Jupiter /Rahu are not decent periods financially speaking and I have seen people suffering during these periods. However please do not take it personally as you may have other beneficial combinations which can counter all bad effects. In any case Ketu and Rahu acquire the chracteristics of the conjuncting planets and So Jupiter_Ketu might be a better combination but Jupiter_rahu is definitely chandala yoga and various books can confirm it. In any case my comments are very general, although I have seen the general behaviour to hold true in various cases known to me. Hope I am clear now. Regards Rajesh Kumaria. vedic astrology, "Ognjen" <ognjen.pavicevic@z...> wrote: > Hi to all, > well I must say that I am surprised with > "I > have says that Jupiter and Ketu combination (general effects) are > unorthodox behaviour, agnostic, refined and sensitive thinking and > erratic fortunes. Also you should not ignore the aspect between Rahu > and Jupiter (The Guru Chandala yoga)which indicates materialistic > behaviour, selfish, confused thinking and unfirendly. Actually guru > Chandala yoga will ideally lead to madness as per the books". > Please clarify that to me since I have Jupiter and Ketu in 4th under dristi of Rahu of course and also I've heard that this combination is very beneficial for the native? > Best regards > Ognjen > - > Rajesh Mohan Kumaria > vedic astrology > Tuesday, December 03, 2002 8:22 AM > [vedic astrology] Re: influence of ketu in 12th house with jupiter > > > Well this is also another form of Guru-Chandala yoga and the info. I > have says that Jupiter and Ketu combination (general effects) are > unorthodox behaviour, agnostic, refined and sensitive thinking and > erratic fortunes. Also you should not ignore the aspect between Rahu > and Jupiter (The Guru Chandala yoga)which indicates materialistic > behaviour, selfish, confused thinking and unfirendly. Actually guru > Chandala yoga will ideally lead to madness as per the books, but due > to the influence of Lagna Lord Venus, the native shall remane sane > and in control of such madness. There are lots of articles on Guru > Chandala yoga and you will need to analyse the full chart before > reaching any final conclusions. These are very general trends only. > all the best.(seems to me that Guru takes ones to temples while > chandala takes one to graveyards causing the pain, but Venus controls > it somehow...) Rajesh Kumaria. > > vedic astrology, ramana mv <mvr_ramana> wrote: > > Hi friends > > any one of you can tell me about influence of > > Jupiter and ketu in 12th house for tula lagna where > > lagna lord venus is in 6th house (meena) along with Rahu. > > > > > > > > Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now. > > http://mailplus. > > > Sponsor > > > > > > > > > > To UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology-@e... > > ....... May Jupiter's light shine on us ....... > > > > Terms of Service. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 3, 2002 Report Share Posted December 3, 2002 Hi All, What happens when Guru and Kethu are in 3rd house, and venus in lagna. -- In vedic astrology, "Ognjen" <ognjen.pavicevic@z...> wrote: > Hi to all, > well I must say that I am surprised with > "I > have says that Jupiter and Ketu combination (general effects) are > unorthodox behaviour, agnostic, refined and sensitive thinking and > erratic fortunes. Also you should not ignore the aspect between Rahu > and Jupiter (The Guru Chandala yoga)which indicates materialistic > behaviour, selfish, confused thinking and unfirendly. Actually guru > Chandala yoga will ideally lead to madness as per the books". > Please clarify that to me since I have Jupiter and Ketu in 4th under dristi of Rahu of course and also I've heard that this combination is very beneficial for the native? > Best regards > Ognjen > - > Rajesh Mohan Kumaria > vedic astrology > Tuesday, December 03, 2002 8:22 AM > [vedic astrology] Re: influence of ketu in 12th house with jupiter > > > Well this is also another form of Guru-Chandala yoga and the info. I > have says that Jupiter and Ketu combination (general effects) are > unorthodox behaviour, agnostic, refined and sensitive thinking and > erratic fortunes. Also you should not ignore the aspect between Rahu > and Jupiter (The Guru Chandala yoga)which indicates materialistic > behaviour, selfish, confused thinking and unfirendly. Actually guru > Chandala yoga will ideally lead to madness as per the books, but due > to the influence of Lagna Lord Venus, the native shall remane sane > and in control of such madness. There are lots of articles on Guru > Chandala yoga and you will need to analyse the full chart before > reaching any final conclusions. These are very general trends only. > all the best.(seems to me that Guru takes ones to temples while > chandala takes one to graveyards causing the pain, but Venus controls > it somehow...) Rajesh Kumaria. > > vedic astrology, ramana mv <mvr_ramana> wrote: > > Hi friends > > any one of you can tell me about influence of > > Jupiter and ketu in 12th house for tula lagna where > > lagna lord venus is in 6th house (meena) along with Rahu. > > > > > > > > Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now. > > http://mailplus. > > > Sponsor > > > > > > > > > > To UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology-@e... > > ....... May Jupiter's light shine on us ....... > > > > Terms of Service. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Guest guest Posted December 4, 2002 Report Share Posted December 4, 2002 Well I don’t agree with ju-ke combo being called as guru chandala yoga.. ju-ra is certainly gu-chandala yoga. In kn rao ‘s book yogis , destiny & wheels of time, this ju-ra was most criticized yoga…this may b good for materialism but not for spiritual persuits. As far as ju-ke r concerned, this is def . good for spiritual persuits..but check the functional nature of ju also. As I believe that ke makes u crave for something….so its presence in 12 house makes u seek moksha ..provided aspected or conjunct with a benefic planet. Prashant v_hemalatha <v_hemalatha > wrote: Hi All,What happens when Guru and Kethu are in 3rd house, and venusin lagna.-- In vedic astrology, "Ognjen" <ognjen.pavicevic@z...> wrote:> Hi to all,> well I must say that I am surprised with > "I > have says that Jupiter and Ketu combination (general effects) are > unorthodox behaviour, agnostic, refined and sensitive thinking and > erratic fortunes. Also you should not ignore the aspect between Rahu > and Jupiter (The Guru Chandala yoga)which indicates materialistic > behaviour, selfish, confused thinking and unfirendly. Actually guru > Chandala yoga will ideally lead to madness as per the books".> Please clarify that to me since I have Jupiter and Ketu in 4th under dristi of Rahu of course and also I've heard that this combination is very beneficial for the native?> Best regards> Ognjen> - > Rajesh Mohan Kumaria > vedic astrology > Tuesday, December 03, 2002 8:22 AM> [vedic astrology] Re: influence of ketu in 12th house with jupiter> > > Well this is also another form of Guru-Chandala yoga and the info. I > have says that Jupiter and Ketu combination (general effects) are > unorthodox behaviour, agnostic, refined and sensitive thinking and > erratic fortunes. Also you should not ignore the aspect between Rahu > and Jupiter (The Guru Chandala yoga)which indicates materialistic > behaviour, selfish, confused thinking and unfirendly. Actually guru > Chandala yoga will ideally lead to madness as per the books, but due > to the influence of Lagna Lord Venus, the native shall remane sane > and in control of such madness. There are lots of articles on Guru > Chandala yoga and you will need to analyse the full chart before > reaching any final conclusions. These are very general trends only. > all the best.(seems to me that Guru takes ones to temples while > chandala takes one to graveyards causing the pain, but Venus controls > it somehow...) Rajesh Kumaria.> > vedic astrology, ramana mv <mvr_ramana> wrote:> > Hi friends > > any one of you can tell me about influence of > > Jupiter and ketu in 12th house for tula lagna where> > lagna lord venus is in 6th house (meena) along with Rahu.> > > > > > > > Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now.> > http://mailplus.> > > Sponsor > > > > > > Archives: vedic astrology> > Group info: vedic astrology/info.html> > To UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology-@e...> > ....... May Jupiter's light shine on us .......> > || Om Tat Sat || Sarvam Sri Krishnaarpanamastu || > > Terms of Service.Archives: vedic astrologyGroup info: vedic astrology/info.htmlTo UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology-....... May Jupiter's light shine on us ....... Do you ? Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 4, 2002 Report Share Posted December 4, 2002 Hi Group and prashant narang I agree with prashant narang comments and as U aware that 12th house is house of moksha and lord of Moksha (Ketu) is sitting with Jupiter (Adviser/master for gods) and aspected by exalted venus will make the person to attain moksha. --- prashant narang <prashantnarang wrote: > > Hi group, > > Well I don’t agree with ju-ke combo being called as > guru chandala yoga.. ju-ra is certainly gu-chandala > yoga. In kn rao ‘s book yogis , destiny & wheels of > time, this ju-ra was most criticized yoga…this may > b good for materialism but not for spiritual > persuits. > > As far as ju-ke r concerned, this is def . good for > spiritual persuits..but check the functional nature > of ju also. As I believe that ke makes u crave for > something….so its presence in 12 house makes u seek > moksha ..provided aspected or conjunct with a > benefic planet. > > Prashant > > > v_hemalatha <v_hemalatha wrote: > Hi All, > What happens when Guru and Kethu are in 3rd house, > and venus > in lagna. > -- In vedic astrology, "Ognjen" > <ognjen.pavicevic@z...> wrote: > > Hi to all, > > well I must say that I am surprised with > > "I > > have says that Jupiter and Ketu combination > (general effects) are > > unorthodox behaviour, agnostic, refined and > sensitive thinking and > > erratic fortunes. Also you should not ignore the > aspect between > Rahu > > and Jupiter (The Guru Chandala yoga)which > indicates materialistic > > behaviour, selfish, confused thinking and > unfirendly. Actually guru > > Chandala yoga will ideally lead to madness as per > the books". > > Please clarify that to me since I have Jupiter and > Ketu in 4th > under dristi of Rahu of course and also I've heard > that this > combination is very beneficial for the native? > > Best regards > > Ognjen > > - > > Rajesh Mohan Kumaria > > vedic astrology > > Tuesday, December 03, 2002 8:22 AM > > [vedic astrology] Re: influence of ketu > in 12th house > with jupiter > > > > > > Well this is also another form of Guru-Chandala > yoga and the > info. I > > have says that Jupiter and Ketu combination > (general effects) are > > unorthodox behaviour, agnostic, refined and > sensitive thinking > and > > erratic fortunes. Also you should not ignore the > aspect between > Rahu > > and Jupiter (The Guru Chandala yoga)which > indicates materialistic > > behaviour, selfish, confused thinking and > unfirendly. Actually > guru > > Chandala yoga will ideally lead to madness as > per the books, but > due > > to the influence of Lagna Lord Venus, the native > shall remane > sane > > and in control of such madness. There are lots > of articles on > Guru > > Chandala yoga and you will need to analyse the > full chart before > > reaching any final conclusions. These are very > general trends > only. > > all the best.(seems to me that Guru takes ones > to temples while > > chandala takes one to graveyards causing the > pain, but Venus > controls > > it somehow...) Rajesh Kumaria. > > > > vedic astrology, ramana mv > <mvr_ramana> wrote: > > > Hi friends > > > any one of you can tell me about influence of > > > Jupiter and ketu in 12th house for tula lagna > where > > > lagna lord venus is in 6th house (meena) along > with Rahu. > > > > > > > > > > > > > Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign > up now. > > > http://mailplus. > > > > > > Sponsor > > > > > > > > > > > > Archives: > vedic astrology > > > > Group info: > vedic astrology/info.html > > > > To UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to > vedic astrology-@e... > > > > ....... May Jupiter's light shine on us ....... > > > > || Om Tat Sat || Sarvam Sri > Krishnaarpanamastu || > > > > Your use of is subject to the > Terms of > Service. > > > Sponsor > > Archives: > vedic astrology > > Group info: > vedic astrology/info.html > > To UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to > vedic astrology- > > ....... May Jupiter's light shine on us ....... > > || Om Tat Sat || Sarvam Sri Krishnaarpanamastu > || > > > Terms of Service. > > > > > > Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now. http://mailplus. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 5, 2002 Report Share Posted December 5, 2002 What is the significance of lagna lord is in 12th house.Say for pices lagna ,Guru is posited in Aquarius?? Thanks Raji ramana mv <mvr_ramana > wrote: Hi Group and prashant narang I agree with prashant narang comments and as U awarethat 12th house is house of moksha and lord of Moksha(Ketu) is sitting with Jupiter (Adviser/master forgods) and aspected by exalted venus will make theperson to attain moksha.--- prashant narang wrote:> > Hi group,> > Well I don’t agree with ju-ke combo being called as> guru chandala yoga.. ju-ra is certainly gu-chandala> yoga. In kn rao ‘s book yogis , destiny & wheels of> time, this ju-ra was most criticized yoga…this may> b good for materialism but not for spiritual> persuits.> > As far as ju-ke r concerned, this is def . good for> spiritual persuits..but check the functional nature> of ju also. As I believe that ke makes u crave for> something….so its presence in 12 house makes u seek> moksha ..provided aspected or conjunct with a> benefic planet. > > Prashant> > > v_hemalatha wrote:> Hi All,> What happens when Guru and Kethu are in 3rd house,> and venus> in lagna.> -- In vedic astrology, "Ognjen"> wrote:> > Hi to all,> > well I must say that I am surprised with > > "I > > have says that Jupiter and Ketu combination> (general effects) are > > unorthodox behaviour, agnostic, refined and> sensitive thinking and > > erratic fortunes. Also you should not ignore the> aspect between > Rahu > > and Jupiter (The Guru Chandala yoga)which> indicates materialistic > > behaviour, selfish, confused thinking and> unfirendly. Actually guru > > Chandala yoga will ideally lead to madness as per> the books".> > Please clarify that to me since I have Jupiter and> Ketu in 4th > under dristi of Rahu of course and also I've heard> that this > combination is very beneficial for the native?> > Best regards> > Ognjen> > - > > Rajesh Mohan Kumaria > > To: vedic astrology > > Tuesday, December 03, 2002 8:22 AM> > Subject: [vedic astrology] Re: influence of ketu> in 12th house > with jupiter> > > > > > Well this is also another form of Guru-Chandala> yoga and the > info. I > > have says that Jupiter and Ketu combination> (general effects) are > > unorthodox behaviour, agnostic, refined and> sensitive thinking > and > > erratic fortunes. Also you should not ignore the> aspect between > Rahu > > and Jupiter (The Guru Chandala yoga)which> indicates materialistic > > behaviour, selfish, confused thinking and> unfirendly. Actually > guru > > Chandala yoga will ideally lead to madness as> per the books, but > due > > to the influence of Lagna Lord Venus, the native> shall remane > sane > > and in control of such madness. There are lots> of articles on > Guru > > Chandala yoga and you will need to analyse the> full chart before > > reaching any final conclusions. These are very> general trends > only. > > all the best.(seems to me that Guru takes ones> to temples while > > chandala takes one to graveyards causing the> pain, but Venus > controls > > it somehow...) Rajesh Kumaria.> > > > --- In vedic astrology, ramana mv> wrote:> > > Hi friends > > > any one of you can tell me about influence of > > > Jupiter and ketu in 12th house for tula lagna> where> > > lagna lord venus is in 6th house (meena) along> with Rahu.> > > > > >> > > > > > > Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign> up now.> > > http://mailplus.> > > > > > Sponsor > > > > > > > > > > > > Archives:> vedic astrology> > > > Group info:>vedic astrology/info.html> > > > To UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to> vedic astrology-@e...> > > > ....... May Jupiter's light shine on us .......> > > > || Om Tat Sat || Sarvam Sri> Krishnaarpanamastu || > > > > Your use of is subject to the> Terms of > Service.> > > Sponsor> > Archives:> vedic astrology> > Group info:>vedic astrology/info.html> > To UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to> vedic astrology-> > ....... May Jupiter's light shine on us .......> > || Om Tat Sat || Sarvam Sri Krishnaarpanamastu> || > > > Terms of Service. > > > > > > Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now.http://mailplus.Archives: vedic astrologyGroup info: vedic astrology/info.htmlTo UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology-....... May Jupiter's light shine on us .......Your use of is subject to Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 5, 2002 Report Share Posted December 5, 2002 Hi, Well as far as I know, it simply means residence/travels/income sources in a foreign land during Jupiter Dasa /Antardasa but 12th Lord should also be strong and should be linked to 12th house in strong aspect/conjunction for continued long term foreign residence..otherwise it will mean the native roams throughs forests and foreign lands in a struggling manner..So the position of Saturn can make a difference here(also jupiter in 12th means as per Parasara, that the native goes to heavens after death)...Rajesh Kumaria. vedic astrology, Rajeswari Shankar <rajeswarishankar> wrote: > > Hi Group, > What is the significance of lagna lord is in 12th house.Say for pices lagna ,Guru is posited in Aquarius?? > Thanks > Raji > > ramana mv <mvr_ramana> wrote:Hi Group and prashant narang > I agree with prashant narang comments and as U aware > that 12th house is house of moksha and lord of Moksha > (Ketu) is sitting with Jupiter (Adviser/master for > gods) and aspected by exalted venus will make the > person to attain moksha. > > > > > --- prashant narang > wrote: > > > > Hi group, > > > > Well I don't agree with ju-ke combo being called as > > guru chandala yoga.. ju-ra is certainly gu-chandala > > yoga. In kn rao `s book yogis , destiny & wheels of > > time, this ju-ra was most criticized yoga…this may > > b good for materialism but not for spiritual > > persuits. > > > > As far as ju-ke r concerned, this is def . good for > > spiritual persuits..but check the functional nature > > of ju also. As I believe that ke makes u crave for > > something….so its presence in 12 house makes u seek > > moksha ..provided aspected or conjunct with a > > benefic planet. > > > > Prashant > > > > > > v_hemalatha wrote: > > Hi All, > > What happens when Guru and Kethu are in 3rd house, > > and venus > > in lagna. > > -- In vedic astrology, "Ognjen" > > wrote: > > > Hi to all, > > > well I must say that I am surprised with > > > "I > > > have says that Jupiter and Ketu combination > > (general effects) are > > > unorthodox behaviour, agnostic, refined and > > sensitive thinking and > > > erratic fortunes. Also you should not ignore the > > aspect between > > Rahu > > > and Jupiter (The Guru Chandala yoga)which > > indicates materialistic > > > behaviour, selfish, confused thinking and > > unfirendly. Actually guru > > > Chandala yoga will ideally lead to madness as per > > the books". > > > Please clarify that to me since I have Jupiter and > > Ketu in 4th > > under dristi of Rahu of course and also I've heard > > that this > > combination is very beneficial for the native? > > > Best regards > > > Ognjen > > > - > > > Rajesh Mohan Kumaria > > > vedic astrology > > > Tuesday, December 03, 2002 8:22 AM > > > [vedic astrology] Re: influence of ketu > > in 12th house > > with jupiter > > > > > > > > > Well this is also another form of Guru-Chandala > > yoga and the > > info. I > > > have says that Jupiter and Ketu combination > > (general effects) are > > > unorthodox behaviour, agnostic, refined and > > sensitive thinking > > and > > > erratic fortunes. Also you should not ignore the > > aspect between > > Rahu > > > and Jupiter (The Guru Chandala yoga)which > > indicates materialistic > > > behaviour, selfish, confused thinking and > > unfirendly. Actually > > guru > > > Chandala yoga will ideally lead to madness as > > per the books, but > > due > > > to the influence of Lagna Lord Venus, the native > > shall remane > > sane > > > and in control of such madness. There are lots > > of articles on > > Guru > > > Chandala yoga and you will need to analyse the > > full chart before > > > reaching any final conclusions. These are very > > general trends > > only. > > > all the best.(seems to me that Guru takes ones > > to temples while > > > chandala takes one to graveyards causing the > > pain, but Venus > > controls > > > it somehow...) Rajesh Kumaria. > > > > > > vedic astrology, ramana mv > > wrote: > > > > Hi friends > > > > any one of you can tell me about influence of > > > > Jupiter and ketu in 12th house for tula lagna > > where > > > > lagna lord venus is in 6th house (meena) along > > with Rahu. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign > > up now. > > > > http://mailplus. > > > > > > > > > Sponsor > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Archives: > > vedic astrology > > > > > > Group info: > > > vedic astrology/info.html > > > > > > To UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to > > vedic astrology-@e... > > > > > > ....... May Jupiter's light shine on us ....... > > > > > > || Om Tat Sat || Sarvam Sri > > Krishnaarpanamastu || > > > > > > Your use of is subject to the > > Terms of > > Service. > > > > > > Sponsor > > > > Archives: > > vedic astrology > > > > Group info: > > > vedic astrology/info.html > > > > To UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to > > vedic astrology-@e... > > > > ....... 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Guest guest Posted December 5, 2002 Report Share Posted December 5, 2002 Hi Raji, This is what I have for the lagna lord in 12th as per BPHS "If Lagn’s Lord is in Vyaya Bhava and is devoid of benefic Drishti and/or Yuti, the native will be bereft of physical happiness, will spend unfruitfully and be given to much anger." Saikumar --- Rajeswari Shankar <rajeswarishankar wrote: > > Hi Group, > What is the significance of lagna lord is in 12th > house.Say for pices lagna ,Guru is posited in > Aquarius?? > Thanks > Raji > > ramana mv <mvr_ramana wrote:Hi Group and > prashant narang > I agree with prashant narang comments and as U aware > that 12th house is house of moksha and lord of > Moksha > (Ketu) is sitting with Jupiter (Adviser/master for > gods) and aspected by exalted venus will make the > person to attain moksha. > > > > > --- prashant narang > wrote: > > > > Hi group, > > > > Well I don’t agree with ju-ke combo being called > as > > guru chandala yoga.. ju-ra is certainly > gu-chandala > > yoga. In kn rao ‘s book yogis , destiny & wheels > of > > time, this ju-ra was most criticized yoga…this may > > b good for materialism but not for spiritual > > persuits. > > > > As far as ju-ke r concerned, this is def . good > for > > spiritual persuits..but check the functional > nature > > of ju also. As I believe that ke makes u crave for > > something….so its presence in 12 house makes u > seek > > moksha ..provided aspected or conjunct with a > > benefic planet. > > > > Prashant > > > > > > v_hemalatha wrote: > > Hi All, > > What happens when Guru and Kethu are in 3rd house, > > and venus > > in lagna. > > -- In vedic astrology, "Ognjen" > > wrote: > > > Hi to all, > > > well I must say that I am surprised with > > > "I > > > have says that Jupiter and Ketu combination > > (general effects) are > > > unorthodox behaviour, agnostic, refined and > > sensitive thinking and > > > erratic fortunes. Also you should not ignore the > > aspect between > > Rahu > > > and Jupiter (The Guru Chandala yoga)which > > indicates materialistic > > > behaviour, selfish, confused thinking and > > unfirendly. Actually guru > > > Chandala yoga will ideally lead to madness as > per > > the books". > > > Please clarify that to me since I have Jupiter > and > > Ketu in 4th > > under dristi of Rahu of course and also I've heard > > that this > > combination is very beneficial for the native? > > > Best regards > > > Ognjen > > > - > > > Rajesh Mohan Kumaria > > > vedic astrology > > > Tuesday, December 03, 2002 8:22 AM > > > [vedic astrology] Re: influence of ketu > > in 12th house > > with jupiter > > > > > > > > > Well this is also another form of Guru-Chandala > > yoga and the > > info. I > > > have says that Jupiter and Ketu combination > > (general effects) are > > > unorthodox behaviour, agnostic, refined and > > sensitive thinking > > and > > > erratic fortunes. Also you should not ignore the > > aspect between > > Rahu > > > and Jupiter (The Guru Chandala yoga)which > > indicates materialistic > > > behaviour, selfish, confused thinking and > > unfirendly. Actually > > guru > > > Chandala yoga will ideally lead to madness as > > per the books, but > > due > > > to the influence of Lagna Lord Venus, the native > > shall remane > > sane > > > and in control of such madness. There are lots > > of articles on > > Guru > > > Chandala yoga and you will need to analyse the > > full chart before > > > reaching any final conclusions. These are very > > general trends > > only. > > > all the best.(seems to me that Guru takes ones > > to temples while > > > chandala takes one to graveyards causing the > > pain, but Venus > > controls > > > it somehow...) Rajesh Kumaria. > > > > > > vedic astrology, ramana mv > > wrote: > > > > Hi friends > > > > any one of you can tell me about influence of > > > > Jupiter and ketu in 12th house for tula lagna > > where > > > > lagna lord venus is in 6th house (meena) along > > with Rahu. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. 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Guest guest Posted December 5, 2002 Report Share Posted December 5, 2002 Please see below data and tell me the prediction in that case : DOB : 24 Jan 1977, Time : 14:15 GMT+5.30 21N58 70E52 It has Jup-Ke in 12th Aries Sign, 12th Lord in 8th Saggitarius with Mars-Mercury. By this means it has 12-8 exchange yoga 8th lord aspecting its own house and to 12th lord. Please provide some insight, Thanks, Chintan. Rajesh Mohan Kumaria <rajeshkumaria2000 > wrote: Hi, Well as far as I know, it simply means residence/travels/income sources in a foreign land during Jupiter Dasa /Antardasa but 12th Lord should also be strong and should be linked to 12th house in strong aspect/conjunction for continued long term foreign residence..otherwise it will mean the native roams throughs forests and foreign lands in a struggling manner..So the position of Saturn can make a difference here(also jupiter in 12th means as per Parasara, that the native goes to heavens after death)...Rajesh Kumaria.--- In vedic astrology, Rajeswari Shankar <rajeswarishankar> wrote:> > Hi Group,> What is the significance of lagna lord is in 12th house.Say for pices lagna ,Guru is posited in Aquarius??> Thanks> Raji> > ramana mv <mvr_ramana> wrote:Hi Group and prashant narang > I agree with prashant narang comments and as U aware> that 12th house is house of moksha and lord of Moksha> (Ketu) is sitting with Jupiter (Adviser/master for> gods) and aspected by exalted venus will make the> person to attain moksha.> > > > > --- prashant narang > wrote:> > > > Hi group,> > > > Well I don't agree with ju-ke combo being called as> > guru chandala yoga.. ju-ra is certainly gu-chandala> > yoga. In kn rao `s book yogis , destiny & wheels of> > time, this ju-ra was most criticized yoga…this may> > b good for materialism but not for spiritual> > persuits.> > > > As far as ju-ke r concerned, this is def . good for> > spiritual persuits..but check the functional nature> > of ju also. As I believe that ke makes u crave for> > something….so its presence in 12 house makes u seek> > moksha ..provided aspected or conjunct with a> > benefic planet. > > > > Prashant> > > > > > v_hemalatha wrote:> > Hi All,> > What happens when Guru and Kethu are in 3rd house,> > and venus> > in lagna.> > -- In vedic astrology, "Ognjen"> > wrote:> > > Hi to all,> > > well I must say that I am surprised with > > > "I > > > have says that Jupiter and Ketu combination> > (general effects) are > > > unorthodox behaviour, agnostic, refined and> > sensitive thinking and > > > erratic fortunes. Also you should not ignore the> > aspect between > > Rahu > > > and Jupiter (The Guru Chandala yoga)which> > indicates materialistic > > > behaviour, selfish, confused thinking and> > unfirendly. Actually guru > > > Chandala yoga will ideally lead to madness as per> > the books".> > > Please clarify that to me since I have Jupiter and> > Ketu in 4th > > under dristi of Rahu of course and also I've heard> > that this > > combination is very beneficial for the native?> > > Best regards> > > Ognjen> > > - > > > Rajesh Mohan Kumaria > > > vedic astrology > > > Tuesday, December 03, 2002 8:22 AM> > > [vedic astrology] Re: influence of ketu> > in 12th house > > with jupiter> > > > > > > > > Well this is also another form of Guru-Chandala> > yoga and the > > info. I > > > have says that Jupiter and Ketu combination> > (general effects) are > > > unorthodox behaviour, agnostic, refined and> > sensitive thinking > > and > > > erratic fortunes. Also you should not ignore the> > aspect between > > Rahu > > > and Jupiter (The Guru Chandala yoga)which> > indicates materialistic > > > behaviour, selfish, confused thinking and> > unfirendly. Actually > > guru > > > Chandala yoga will ideally lead to madness as> > per the books, but > > due > > > to the influence of Lagna Lord Venus, the native> > shall remane > > sane > > > and in control of such madness. There are lots> > of articles on > > Guru > > > Chandala yoga and you will need to analyse the> > full chart before > > > reaching any final conclusions. These are very> > general trends > > only. > > > all the best.(seems to me that Guru takes ones> > to temples while > > > chandala takes one to graveyards causing the> > pain, but Venus > > controls > > > it somehow...) Rajesh Kumaria.> > > > > > vedic astrology, ramana mv> > wrote:> > > > Hi friends > > > > any one of you can tell me about influence of > > > > Jupiter and ketu in 12th house for tula lagna> > where> > > > lagna lord venus is in 6th house (meena) along> > with Rahu.> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign> > up now.> > > > http://mailplus.> > > > > > > > > Sponsor > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Archives:> > vedic astrology> > > > > > Group info:> >> vedic astrology/info.html> > > > > > To UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to> > vedic astrology-@e...> > > > > > > > > > > > || Om Tat Sat || Sarvam Sri> > Krishnaarpanamastu || > > > > > > Your use of is subject to the> > Terms of > > Service.> > > > > > Sponsor> > > > Archives:> > vedic astrology> > > > Group info:> >> vedic astrology/info.html> > > > To UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to> > vedic astrology-@e...> > > > ....... 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Guest guest Posted December 5, 2002 Report Share Posted December 5, 2002 Thanks for the comment.There is aspect between jupiter and saturn (in gemini).Note that saturn is retrograted and getting 5th aspect from jupiter in aquarius. Regards Raji Rajesh Mohan Kumaria <rajeshkumaria2000 > wrote: Hi, Well as far as I know, it simply means residence/travels/income sources in a foreign land during Jupiter Dasa /Antardasa but 12th Lord should also be strong and should be linked to 12th house in strong aspect/conjunction for continued long term foreign residence..otherwise it will mean the native roams throughs forests and foreign lands in a struggling manner..So the position of Saturn can make a difference here(also jupiter in 12th means as per Parasara, that the native goes to heavens after death)...Rajesh Kumaria.--- In vedic astrology, Rajeswari Shankar <rajeswarishankar> wrote:> > Hi Group,> What is the significance of lagna lord is in 12th house.Say for pices lagna ,Guru is posited in Aquarius??> Thanks> Raji> > ramana mv <mvr_ramana> wrote:Hi Group and prashant narang > I agree with prashant narang comments and as U aware> that 12th house is house of moksha and lord of Moksha> (Ketu) is sitting with Jupiter (Adviser/master for> gods) and aspected by exalted venus will make the> person to attain moksha.> > > > > --- prashant narang > wrote:> > > > Hi group,> > > > Well I don't agree with ju-ke combo being called as> > guru chandala yoga.. ju-ra is certainly gu-chandala> > yoga. In kn rao `s book yogis , destiny & wheels of> > time, this ju-ra was most criticized yoga…this may> > b good for materialism but not for spiritual> > persuits.> > > > As far as ju-ke r concerned, this is def . good for> > spiritual persuits..but check the functional nature> > of ju also. As I believe that ke makes u crave for> > something….so its presence in 12 house makes u seek> > moksha ..provided aspected or conjunct with a> > benefic planet. > > > > Prashant> > > > > > v_hemalatha wrote:> > Hi All,> > What happens when Guru and Kethu are in 3rd house,> > and venus> > in lagna.> > -- In vedic astrology, "Ognjen"> > wrote:> > > Hi to all,> > > well I must say that I am surprised with > > > "I > > > have says that Jupiter and Ketu combination> > (general effects) are > > > unorthodox behaviour, agnostic, refined and> > sensitive thinking and > > > erratic fortunes. Also you should not ignore the> > aspect between > > Rahu > > > and Jupiter (The Guru Chandala yoga)which> > indicates materialistic > > > behaviour, selfish, confused thinking and> > unfirendly. Actually guru > > > Chandala yoga will ideally lead to madness as per> > the books".> > > Please clarify that to me since I have Jupiter and> > Ketu in 4th > > under dristi of Rahu of course and also I've heard> > that this > > combination is very beneficial for the native?> > > Best regards> > > Ognjen> > > - > > > Rajesh Mohan Kumaria > > > vedic astrology > > > Tuesday, December 03, 2002 8:22 AM> > > [vedic astrology] Re: influence of ketu> > in 12th house > > with jupiter> > > > > > > > > Well this is also another form of Guru-Chandala> > yoga and the > > info. I > > > have says that Jupiter and Ketu combination> > (general effects) are > > > unorthodox behaviour, agnostic, refined and> > sensitive thinking > > and > > > erratic fortunes. Also you should not ignore the> > aspect between > > Rahu > > > and Jupiter (The Guru Chandala yoga)which> > indicates materialistic > > > behaviour, selfish, confused thinking and> > unfirendly. Actually > > guru > > > Chandala yoga will ideally lead to madness as> > per the books, but > > due > > > to the influence of Lagna Lord Venus, the native> > shall remane > > sane > > > and in control of such madness. There are lots> > of articles on > > Guru > > > Chandala yoga and you will need to analyse the> > full chart before > > > reaching any final conclusions. These are very> > general trends > > only. > > > all the best.(seems to me that Guru takes ones> > to temples while > > > chandala takes one to graveyards causing the> > pain, but Venus > > controls > > > it somehow...) Rajesh Kumaria.> > > > > > vedic astrology, ramana mv> > wrote:> > > > Hi friends > > > > any one of you can tell me about influence of > > > > Jupiter and ketu in 12th house for tula lagna> > where> > > > lagna lord venus is in 6th house (meena) along> > with Rahu.> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign> > up now.> > > > http://mailplus.> > > > > > > > > Sponsor > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Archives:> > vedic astrology> > > > > > Group info:> >> vedic astrology/info.html> > > > > > To UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to> > vedic astrology-@e...> > > > > > > > > > > > || Om Tat Sat || Sarvam Sri> > Krishnaarpanamastu || > > > > > > Your use of is subject to the> > Terms of > > Service.> > > > > > Sponsor> > > > Archives:> > vedic astrology> > > > Group info:> >> vedic astrology/info.html> > > > To UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to> > vedic astrology-@e...> > > > ....... 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Guest guest Posted December 5, 2002 Report Share Posted December 5, 2002 Dear members, Please see some examples below for various Ketu periods as per Parasara: Jupiter/Ketu: If Ketu is conjoined with the benefic planets, it will result in moderate comforts and gain of wealth; subsist on donated, charitable food and also procures food through unscrupulous means. Saturn/Ketu: Placement of Ketu at 8th/12th house from Ascendant or Mahadas Lord will cause fear of untimely death, injuries and detachment from wife and children. Ketu/Ketu: If Ketu is in Its sign of debilitation or with a combust planet in 8th/12th house, it will cause heart ailment, defamation, loss of wealth and distress etc., KETU/VENUS: Native regains lost kingdom if Ketu is placed in angle/trine or 11th house or conjoined with 10th lord, but if Ketu and venus are placed in 6th/8th/12th from each other, then theri is loss of wealth and other problems. Conclusion: Im most cases Ketu's period causes financial and distress type problems unless and until Ketu is linked to strong benefic influence or Ascendant Lord and placed in an angle/trine. So Moksha has its own cost and is not so glamorous as may appear in various emails..one has to loose all materialistic achevements in order to reach that moksha state...there is no automatic guarantee that a benfic influence on Ketu posited in 12th house will get the actual moksha. So is Jupiter-Ketu combination a Guru-chandala yoga..yes as per Star Teller magazine. .. even if you do not agree, one can see that such a period brings problems similar to jupiter-rahu unless and until the natal ketuis linked to very string planets or ascendent lord. I have seen few people losing tons of money in business in Jupiter/Ketu although (one case)Ketu and Venus were in conjunction in 11th house and Venus was the Lagana Lord. The period is suitable for jobs only on a comparitive basis. So if one can see the affects then Jupiter/ketu period can also be consdiered similar to Guru-Chandala period (on the general assumption that Ketu is not well placed personal expereience during Jupiter/Ketu: Well I got a very good job at that time that lasted for a long time. But please note that my natal Ketu is posited in the Lagna in Aquarius and Lagna Lord Saturn is posited in Capricorn in 12th house in its own sign. However the job was not obtained without lot of mental anguish and frustrations. In my personal case Jupiter/Ketu was an even more tough period than the rise and fall of Jupiter/Rahu...Infact I had a much better and good time during Jupiter/rahu when comapred to jupiter/ketu. so you see which one is the real Guru-Chandala yoga depends upon the horoscope and preceptions. Also there are several other factors involved simultaneously. Thanks and Regards rajesh kumaria. vedic astrology, ramana mv <mvr_ramana> wrote: > Hi Group and prashant narang > I agree with prashant narang comments and as U aware > that 12th house is house of moksha and lord of Moksha > (Ketu) is sitting with Jupiter (Adviser/master for > gods) and aspected by exalted venus will make the > person to attain moksha. > > > > > --- prashant narang <prashantnarang> wrote: > > > > Hi group, > > > > Well I don't agree with ju-ke combo being called as > > guru chandala yoga.. ju-ra is certainly gu-chandala > > yoga. In kn rao `s book yogis , destiny & wheels of > > time, this ju-ra was most criticized yoga…this may > > b good for materialism but not for spiritual > > persuits. > > > > As far as ju-ke r concerned, this is def . good for > > spiritual persuits..but check the functional nature > > of ju also. As I believe that ke makes u crave for > > something….so its presence in 12 house makes u seek > > moksha ..provided aspected or conjunct with a > > benefic planet. > > > > Prashant > > > > > > v_hemalatha <v_hemalatha> wrote: > > Hi All, > > What happens when Guru and Kethu are in 3rd house, > > and venus > > in lagna. > > -- In vedic astrology, "Ognjen" > > <ognjen.pavicevic@z...> wrote: > > > Hi to all, > > > well I must say that I am surprised with > > > "I > > > have says that Jupiter and Ketu combination > > (general effects) are > > > unorthodox behaviour, agnostic, refined and > > sensitive thinking and > > > erratic fortunes. Also you should not ignore the > > aspect between > > Rahu > > > and Jupiter (The Guru Chandala yoga)which > > indicates materialistic > > > behaviour, selfish, confused thinking and > > unfirendly. Actually guru > > > Chandala yoga will ideally lead to madness as per > > the books". > > > Please clarify that to me since I have Jupiter and > > Ketu in 4th > > under dristi of Rahu of course and also I've heard > > that this > > combination is very beneficial for the native? > > > Best regards > > > Ognjen > > > - > > > Rajesh Mohan Kumaria > > > vedic astrology > > > Tuesday, December 03, 2002 8:22 AM > > > [vedic astrology] Re: influence of ketu > > in 12th house > > with jupiter > > > > > > > > > Well this is also another form of Guru-Chandala > > yoga and the > > info. I > > > have says that Jupiter and Ketu combination > > (general effects) are > > > unorthodox behaviour, agnostic, refined and > > sensitive thinking > > and > > > erratic fortunes. Also you should not ignore the > > aspect between > > Rahu > > > and Jupiter (The Guru Chandala yoga)which > > indicates materialistic > > > behaviour, selfish, confused thinking and > > unfirendly. Actually > > guru > > > Chandala yoga will ideally lead to madness as > > per the books, but > > due > > > to the influence of Lagna Lord Venus, the native > > shall remane > > sane > > > and in control of such madness. There are lots > > of articles on > > Guru > > > Chandala yoga and you will need to analyse the > > full chart before > > > reaching any final conclusions. These are very > > general trends > > only. > > > all the best.(seems to me that Guru takes ones > > to temples while > > > chandala takes one to graveyards causing the > > pain, but Venus > > controls > > > it somehow...) Rajesh Kumaria. > > > > > > vedic astrology, ramana mv > > <mvr_ramana> wrote: > > > > Hi friends > > > > any one of you can tell me about influence of > > > > Jupiter and ketu in 12th house for tula lagna > > where > > > > lagna lord venus is in 6th house (meena) along > > with Rahu. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. 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Guest guest Posted December 5, 2002 Report Share Posted December 5, 2002 Hi Chintan, Well here are my humble comments(which is bold attempt on my part..is this correct?) Jupiter-Ketu in aries in 12th house and Mars-Mecury in sagittarius in 8th house. 8th lord in12th and 12th Lord in 8th means Vipreet Rajyoga, which basically means success after tremendous struglle during the periods of Mars or Jupiter. Jupiter as 8th and 11th Lord is double malefic and placed in 12th house, which is a dusthsthana. Jupiter becomes violent aries. Jupiter is in Sagittarius in 9th house in Navamsa indicating religious inclinations especially since Ketu mahadasa is approaching in 2004. Ketu in 2nd house in Navamsa is not good for wealth and in12th house in rashi also indicates religious inclinations, aand struglle in financial affairs( I am not a supporter of Moksha which comes at the cost of physical survival..i believe that materialism is very necessary until one reaches 60 years of age and then the soul/person can decide his her path).. I am not sure whether this is a male or female chart, but in both cases its tough for marital relations. If its a female chart, then Jupiter the karaka for husband is placed in 12th house and shows detachement from husband or rather say religious inclinations while in marriage(marriage is ofcourse determine separately by Upapada, darpada etc)..If male horoscope, then Venus the karaka for wife is also Atamkaraka and that also indicates religious inclinations and not very string romantic inclinations etc., However Jupiter's aspect on 4th house gives education and Mercury, the lod of 5th house in 8th is good for intelligence since Mercury is an exception for 8th house rules. Is the chart of a student? IN any case this person will rise in career only after struggles in Mercury Dasa. That's all I can say... regards rajesh kumaria vedic astrology, Chintan Chhaya <chintanchhaya> wrote: > > Hi Rajesh, > Please see below data and tell me the prediction in that case : > DOB : 24 Jan 1977, Time : 14:15 GMT+5.30 21N58 70E52 > It has Jup-Ke in 12th Aries Sign, 12th Lord in 8th Saggitarius with Mars-Mercury. > By this means it has 12-8 exchange yoga 8th lord aspecting its own house and to 12th lord. > Please provide some insight, > Thanks, > Chintan. > Rajesh Mohan Kumaria <rajeshkumaria2000> wrote:Hi, Well as far as I know, it simply means residence/travels/income > sources in a foreign land during Jupiter Dasa /Antardasa but 12th > Lord should also be strong and should be linked to 12th house in > strong aspect/conjunction for continued long term foreign > residence..otherwise it will mean the native roams throughs forests > and foreign lands in a struggling manner..So the position of Saturn > can make a difference here(also jupiter in 12th means as per > Parasara, that the native goes to heavens after death)...Rajesh > Kumaria. > > vedic astrology, Rajeswari Shankar > <rajeswarishankar> wrote: > > > > Hi Group, > > What is the significance of lagna lord is in 12th house.Say for > pices lagna ,Guru is posited in Aquarius?? > > Thanks > > Raji > > > > ramana mv <mvr_ramana> wrote:Hi Group and prashant narang > > I agree with prashant narang comments and as U aware > > that 12th house is house of moksha and lord of Moksha > > (Ketu) is sitting with Jupiter (Adviser/master for > > gods) and aspected by exalted venus will make the > > person to attain moksha. > > > > > > > > > > --- prashant narang > > wrote: > > > > > > Hi group, > > > > > > Well I don't agree with ju-ke combo being called as > > > guru chandala yoga.. ju-ra is certainly gu-chandala > > > yoga. In kn rao `s book yogis , destiny & wheels of > > > time, this ju-ra was most criticized yoga…this may > > > b good for materialism but not for spiritual > > > persuits. > > > > > > As far as ju-ke r concerned, this is def . good for > > > spiritual persuits..but check the functional nature > > > of ju also. As I believe that ke makes u crave for > > > something….so its presence in 12 house makes u seek > > > moksha ..provided aspected or conjunct with a > > > benefic planet. > > > > > > Prashant > > > > > > > > > v_hemalatha wrote: > > > Hi All, > > > What happens when Guru and Kethu are in 3rd house, > > > and venus > > > in lagna. > > > -- In vedic astrology, "Ognjen" > > > wrote: > > > > Hi to all, > > > > well I must say that I am surprised with > > > > "I > > > > have says that Jupiter and Ketu combination > > > (general effects) are > > > > unorthodox behaviour, agnostic, refined and > > > sensitive thinking and > > > > erratic fortunes. Also you should not ignore the > > > aspect between > > > Rahu > > > > and Jupiter (The Guru Chandala yoga)which > > > indicates materialistic > > > > behaviour, selfish, confused thinking and > > > unfirendly. Actually guru > > > > Chandala yoga will ideally lead to madness as per > > > the books". > > > > Please clarify that to me since I have Jupiter and > > > Ketu in 4th > > > under dristi of Rahu of course and also I've heard > > > that this > > > combination is very beneficial for the native? > > > > Best regards > > > > Ognjen > > > > - > > > > Rajesh Mohan Kumaria > > > > vedic astrology > > > > Tuesday, December 03, 2002 8:22 AM > > > > [vedic astrology] Re: influence of ketu > > > in 12th house > > > with jupiter > > > > > > > > > > > > Well this is also another form of Guru-Chandala > > > yoga and the > > > info. I > > > > have says that Jupiter and Ketu combination > > > (general effects) are > > > > unorthodox behaviour, agnostic, refined and > > > sensitive thinking > > > and > > > > erratic fortunes. Also you should not ignore the > > > aspect between > > > Rahu > > > > and Jupiter (The Guru Chandala yoga)which > > > indicates materialistic > > > > behaviour, selfish, confused thinking and > > > unfirendly. Actually > > > guru > > > > Chandala yoga will ideally lead to madness as > > > per the books, but > > > due > > > > to the influence of Lagna Lord Venus, the native > > > shall remane > > > sane > > > > and in control of such madness. There are lots > > > of articles on > > > Guru > > > > Chandala yoga and you will need to analyse the > > > full chart before > > > > reaching any final conclusions. These are very > > > general trends > > > only. > > > > all the best.(seems to me that Guru takes ones > > > to temples while > > > > chandala takes one to graveyards causing the > > > pain, but Venus > > > controls > > > > it somehow...) Rajesh Kumaria. > > > > > > > > vedic astrology, ramana mv > > > wrote: > > > > > Hi friends > > > > > any one of you can tell me about influence of > > > > > Jupiter and ketu in 12th house for tula lagna > > > where > > > > > lagna lord venus is in 6th house (meena) along > > > with Rahu. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign > > > up now. > > > > > http://mailplus. > > > > > > > > > > > > Sponsor > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Archives: > > > vedic astrology > > > > > > > > Group info: > > > > > vedic astrology/info.html > > > > > > > > To UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to > > > vedic astrology-@e... > > > > > > > > ....... 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Guest guest Posted December 6, 2002 Report Share Posted December 6, 2002 Thanks a lot for ur elaborated explaination. This is a male chart...Its me. U are absolutely right....success after tremendous struggle. I have a few questions at this time...I am running under Mercury-Saturn-Venus Dasha. Infact Venus Pratyantar started 30th November and on dec 2nd I have lost my job...I will be out of my project by this month end. I am in USA now to work and earn. How do u see the future happenings...as Venus is my functional malefic...and I am runnings its pratyantar. How long will it remain..I mean when will I get a new job ? ? OR do I need to go back...?? OR I will find a good job by may 2003...start of sun Pratyantar ? ? ? How about jan-feb 2003 period...Mart transiting over my 7th house and aspecting 10th job house...will it be fruitful ? ? Please answer.. Thanks for ur help and guidence. Chintan. Rajesh Mohan Kumaria <rajeshkumaria2000 > wrote: Hi Chintan, Well here are my humble comments(which is bold attempt on my part..is this correct?)Jupiter-Ketu in aries in 12th house and Mars-Mecury in sagittarius in 8th house. 8th lord in12th and 12th Lord in 8th means Vipreet Rajyoga, which basically means success after tremendous struglle during the periods of Mars or Jupiter. Jupiter as 8th and 11th Lord is double malefic and placed in 12th house, which is a dusthsthana. Jupiter becomes violent aries. Jupiter is in Sagittarius in 9th house in Navamsa indicating religious inclinations especially since Ketu mahadasa is approaching in 2004. Ketu in 2nd house in Navamsa is not good for wealth and in12th house in rashi also indicates religious inclinations, aand struglle in financial affairs( I am not a supporter of Moksha which comes at the cost of physical survival..i believe that materialism is very necessary until one reaches 60 years of age and then the soul/person can decide his her path)..I am not sure whether this is a male or female chart, but in both cases its tough for marital relations. If its a female chart, then Jupiter the karaka for husband is placed in 12th house and shows detachement from husband or rather say religious inclinations while in marriage(marriage is ofcourse determine separately by Upapada, darpada etc)..If male horoscope, then Venus the karaka for wife is also Atamkaraka and that also indicates religious inclinations and not very string romantic inclinations etc., However Jupiter's aspect on 4th house gives education and Mercury, the lod of 5th house in 8th is good for intelligence since Mercury is an exception for 8th house rules. Is the chart of a student? IN any case this person will rise in career only after struggles in Mercury Dasa. That's all I can say... regards rajesh kumariavedic astrology, Chintan Chhaya <chintanchhaya> wrote:> > Hi Rajesh,> Please see below data and tell me the prediction in that case : > DOB : 24 Jan 1977, Time : 14:15 GMT+5.30 21N58 70E52> It has Jup-Ke in 12th Aries Sign, 12th Lord in 8th Saggitarius with Mars-Mercury.> By this means it has 12-8 exchange yoga 8th lord aspecting its own house and to 12th lord.> Please provide some insight,> Thanks,> Chintan.> Rajesh Mohan Kumaria <rajeshkumaria2000> wrote:Hi, Well as far as I know, it simply means residence/travels/income > sources in a foreign land during Jupiter Dasa /Antardasa but 12th > Lord should also be strong and should be linked to 12th house in > strong aspect/conjunction for continued long term foreign > residence..otherwise it will mean the native roams throughs forests > and foreign lands in a struggling manner..So the position of Saturn > can make a difference here(also jupiter in 12th means as per > Parasara, that the native goes to heavens after death)...Rajesh > Kumaria.> > --- In vedic astrology, Rajeswari Shankar > <rajeswarishankar> wrote:> > > > Hi Group,> > What is the significance of lagna lord is in 12th house.Say for > pices lagna ,Guru is posited in Aquarius??> > Thanks> > Raji> > > > ramana mv <mvr_ramana> wrote:Hi Group and prashant narang > > I agree with prashant narang comments and as U aware> > that 12th house is house of moksha and lord of Moksha> > (Ketu) is sitting with Jupiter (Adviser/master for> > gods) and aspected by exalted venus will make the> > person to attain moksha.> > > > > > > > > > --- prashant narang > > wrote:> > > > > > Hi group,> > > > > > Well I don't agree with ju-ke combo being called as> > > guru chandala yoga.. ju-ra is certainly gu-chandala> > > yoga. In kn rao `s book yogis , destiny & wheels of> > > time, this ju-ra was most criticized yoga…this may> > > b good for materialism but not for spiritual> > > persuits.> > > > > > As far as ju-ke r concerned, this is def . good for> > > spiritual persuits..but check the functional nature> > > of ju also. As I believe that ke makes u crave for> > > something….so its presence in 12 house makes u seek> > > moksha ..provided aspected or conjunct with a> > > benefic planet. > > > > > > Prashant> > > > > > > > > v_hemalatha wrote:> > > Hi All,> > > What happens when Guru and Kethu are in 3rd house,> > > and venus> > > in lagna.> > > -- In vedic astrology, "Ognjen"> > > wrote:> > > > Hi to all,> > > > well I must say that I am surprised with > > > > "I > > > > have says that Jupiter and Ketu combination> > > (general effects) are > > > > unorthodox behaviour, agnostic, refined and> > > sensitive thinking and > > > > erratic fortunes. Also you should not ignore the> > > aspect between > > > Rahu > > > > and Jupiter (The Guru Chandala yoga)which> > > indicates materialistic > > > > behaviour, selfish, confused thinking and> > > unfirendly. Actually guru > > > > Chandala yoga will ideally lead to madness as per> > > the books".> > > > Please clarify that to me since I have Jupiter and> > > Ketu in 4th > > > under dristi of Rahu of course and also I've heard> > > that this > > > combination is very beneficial for the native?> > > > Best regards> > > > Ognjen> > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > > Rajesh Mohan Kumaria > > > > To: vedic astrology > > > > Tuesday, December 03, 2002 8:22 AM> > > > [vedic astrology] Re: influence of ketu> > > in 12th house > > > with jupiter> > > > > > > > > > > > Well this is also another form of Guru-Chandala> > > yoga and the > > > info. I > > > > have says that Jupiter and Ketu combination> > > (general effects) are > > > > unorthodox behaviour, agnostic, refined and> > > sensitive thinking > > > and > > > > erratic fortunes. Also you should not ignore the> > > aspect between > > > Rahu > > > > and Jupiter (The Guru Chandala yoga)which> > > indicates materialistic > > > > behaviour, selfish, confused thinking and> > > unfirendly. Actually > > > guru > > > > Chandala yoga will ideally lead to madness as> > > per the books, but > > > due > > > > to the influence of Lagna Lord Venus, the native> > > shall remane > > > sane > > > > and in control of such madness. There are lots> > > of articles on > > > Guru > > > > Chandala yoga and you will need to analyse the> > > full chart before > > > > reaching any final conclusions. These are very> > > general trends > > > only. > > > > all the best.(seems to me that Guru takes ones> > > to temples while > > > > chandala takes one to graveyards causing the> > > pain, but Venus > > > controls > > > > it somehow...) Rajesh Kumaria.> > > > > > > > vedic astrology, ramana mv> > > wrote:> > > > > Hi friends > > > > > any one of you can tell me about influence of > > > > > Jupiter and ketu in 12th house for tula lagna> > > where> > > > > lagna lord venus is in 6th house (meena) along> > > with Rahu.> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. 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Guest guest Posted December 6, 2002 Report Share Posted December 6, 2002 Dear Raji, According to Maharshi Satyacharya's Satya Jataka,If the Lagna lord is a benefic planet (Here it is Guru )placed in 12th,the native will be religious and will do charitable deeds.He/she will have a happy and comfortable life.The native will be calm and quiet and will do meritorious deeds with a view to achieve happiness in the PARALOKA.The native will spend his/her paternal wealth in good ways. But here Guru should be placed in a benefic Navamsha and a shubha Tara (2,4.6,8 or9th Tara from birth nakshatra ) to gain the above results. With best regards, Ramadas Rao. saikumar <astrossk > wrote: Hi Raji,This is what I have for the lagna lord in 12th as perBPHS "If Lagn’s Lord is in Vyaya Bhava and is devoid ofbenefic Drishti and/or Yuti, the native will be bereftof physical happiness, will spend unfruitfully and begiven to much anger."Saikumar--- Rajeswari Shankar wrote:> > Hi Group,> What is the significance of lagna lord is in 12th> house.Say for pices lagna ,Guru is posited in> Aquarius??> Thanks> Raji> > ramana mv wrote:Hi Group and> prashant narang > I agree with prashant narang comments and as U aware> that 12th house is house of moksha and lord of> Moksha> (Ketu) is sitting with Jupiter (Adviser/master for> gods) and aspected by exalted venus will make the> person to attain moksha.> > > > > --- prashant narang > wrote:> > > > Hi group,> > > > Well I don’t agree with ju-ke combo being called> as> > guru chandala yoga.. ju-ra is certainly> gu-chandala> > yoga. In kn rao ‘s book yogis , destiny & wheels> of> > time, this ju-ra was most criticized yoga…this may> > b good for materialism but not for spiritual> > persuits.> > > > As far as ju-ke r concerned, this is def . good> for> > spiritual persuits..but check the functional> nature> > of ju also. As I believe that ke makes u crave for> > something….so its presence in 12 house makes u> seek> > moksha ..provided aspected or conjunct with a> > benefic planet. > > > > Prashant> > > > > > v_hemalatha wrote:> > Hi All,> > What happens when Guru and Kethu are in 3rd house,> > and venus> > in lagna.> > -- In vedic astrology, "Ognjen"> > wrote:> > > Hi to all,> > > well I must say that I am surprised with > > > "I > > > have says that Jupiter and Ketu combination> > (general effects) are > > > unorthodox behaviour, agnostic, refined and> > sensitive thinking and > > > erratic fortunes. Also you should not ignore the> > aspect between > > Rahu > > > and Jupiter (The Guru Chandala yoga)which> > indicates materialistic > > > behaviour, selfish, confused thinking and> > unfirendly. Actually guru > > > Chandala yoga will ideally lead to madness as> per> > the books".> > > Please clarify that to me since I have Jupiter> and> > Ketu in 4th > > under dristi of Rahu of course and also I've heard> > that this > > combination is very beneficial for the native?> > > Best regards> > > Ognjen> > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > Rajesh Mohan Kumaria > > > vedic astrology > > > Tuesday, December 03, 2002 8:22 AM> > > [vedic astrology] Re: influence of ketu> > in 12th house > > with jupiter> > > > > > > > > Well this is also another form of Guru-Chandala> > yoga and the > > info. I > > > have says that Jupiter and Ketu combination> > (general effects) are > > > unorthodox behaviour, agnostic, refined and> > sensitive thinking > > and > > > erratic fortunes. Also you should not ignore the> > aspect between > > Rahu > > > and Jupiter (The Guru Chandala yoga)which> > indicates materialistic > > > behaviour, selfish, confused thinking and> > unfirendly. Actually > > guru > > > Chandala yoga will ideally lead to madness as> > per the books, but > > due > > > to the influence of Lagna Lord Venus, the native> > shall remane > > sane > > > and in control of such madness. There are lots> > of articles on > > Guru > > > Chandala yoga and you will need to analyse the> > full chart before > > > reaching any final conclusions. These are very> > general trends > > only. > > > all the best.(seems to me that Guru takes ones> > to temples while > > > chandala takes one to graveyards causing the> > pain, but Venus > > controls > > > it somehow...) Rajesh Kumaria.> > > > > > vedic astrology, ramana mv> > wrote:> > > > Hi friends > > > > any one of you can tell me about influence of > > > > Jupiter and ketu in 12th house for tula lagna> > where> > > > lagna lord venus is in 6th house (meena) along> > with Rahu.> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign> > up now.> > > > http://mailplus.> > > > > > > > > Sponsor > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Archives:> > vedic astrology> > > > > > Group info:> >>vedic astrology/info.html> > > > > > To UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to> > vedic astrology-@e...> > > > > > > > > > > > || Om Tat Sat || Sarvam Sri> > Krishnaarpanamastu || > > > > > > Your use of is subject to the> > Terms of > > Service.> > > > > > Sponsor> > > > Archives:> > vedic astrology> > > > Group info:> >>vedic astrology/info.html> > > > To UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to> > vedic astrology-> > > > ....... 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Guest guest Posted December 6, 2002 Report Share Posted December 6, 2002 Thanks for the comments. Regards Raji Ramadas Rao <ramadasrao (AT) (DOT) co.in> wrote: OM KLEEM KRISHNAYA NAMAHA Dear Raji, According to Maharshi Satyacharya's Satya Jataka,If the Lagna lord is a benefic planet (Here it is Guru )placed in 12th,the native will be religious and will do charitable deeds.He/she will have a happy and comfortable life.The native will be calm and quiet and will do meritorious deeds with a view to achieve happiness in the PARALOKA.The native will spend his/her paternal wealth in good ways. But here Guru should be placed in a benefic Navamsha and a shubha Tara (2,4.6,8 or9th Tara from birth nakshatra ) to gain the above results. With best regards, Ramadas Rao. saikumar <astrossk > wrote: Hi Raji,This is what I have for the lagna lord in 12th as perBPHS "If Lagn’s Lord is in Vyaya Bhava and is devoid ofbenefic Drishti and/or Yuti, the native will be bereftof physical happiness, will spend unfruitfully and begiven to much anger."Saikumar--- Rajeswari Shankar wrote:> > Hi Group,> What is the significance of lagna lord is in 12th> house.Say for pices lagna ,Guru is posited in> Aquarius??> Thanks> Raji> > ramana mv wrote:Hi Group and> prashant narang > I agree with prashant narang comments and as U aware> that 12th house is house of moksha and lord of> Moksha> (Ketu) is sitting with Jupiter (Adviser/master for> gods) and aspected by exalted venus will make the> person to attain moksha.> > > > > --- prashant narang > wrote:> > > > Hi group,> > > > Well I don’t agree with ju-ke combo being called> as> > guru chandala yoga.. ju-ra is certainly> gu-chandala> > yoga. In kn rao ‘s book yogis , destiny & wheels> of> > time, this ju-ra was most criticized yoga…this may> > b good for materialism but not for spiritual> > persuits.> > > > As far as ju-ke r concerned, this is def . good> for> > spiritual persuits..but check the functional> nature> > of ju also. As I believe that ke makes u crave for> > something….so its presence in 12 house makes u> seek> > moksha ..provided aspected or conjunct with a> > benefic planet. > > > > Prashant> > > > > > v_hemalatha wrote:> > Hi All,> > What happens when Guru and Kethu are in 3rd house,> > and venus> > in lagna.> > -- In vedic astrology, "Ognjen"> > wrote:> > > Hi to all,> > > well I must say that I am surprised with > > > "I > > > have says that Jupiter and Ketu combination> > (general effects) are > > > unorthodox behaviour, agnostic, refined and> > sensitive thinking and > > > erratic fortunes. Also you should not ignore the> > aspect between > > Rahu > > > and Jupiter (The Guru Chandala yoga)which> > indicates materialistic > > > behaviour, selfish, confused thinking and> > unfirendly. Actually guru > > > Chandala yoga will ideally lead to madness as> per> > the books".> > > Please clarify that to me since I have Jupiter> and> > Ketu in 4th > > under dristi of Rahu of course and also I've heard> > that this > > combination is very beneficial for the native?> > > Best regards> > > Ognjen> > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > Rajesh Mohan Kumaria > > > vedic astrology > > > Tuesday, December 03, 2002 8:22 AM> > > [vedic astrology] Re: influence of ketu> > in 12th house > > with jupiter> > > > > > > > > Well this is also another form of Guru-Chandala> > yoga and the > > info. I > > > have says that Jupiter and Ketu combination> > (general effects) are > > > unorthodox behaviour, agnostic, refined and> > sensitive thinking > > and > > > erratic fortunes. Also you should not ignore the> > aspect between > > Rahu > > > and Jupiter (The Guru Chandala yoga)which> > indicates materialistic > > > behaviour, selfish, confused thinking and> > unfirendly. Actually > > guru > > > Chandala yoga will ideally lead to madness as> > per the books, but > > due > > > to the influence of Lagna Lord Venus, the native> > shall remane > > sane > > > and in control of such madness. There are lots> > of articles on > > Guru > > > Chandala yoga and you will need to analyse the> > full chart before > > > reaching any final conclusions. These are very> > general trends > > only. > > > all the best.(seems to me that Guru takes ones> > to temples while > > > chandala takes one to graveyards causing the> > pain, but Venus > > controls > > > it somehow...) Rajesh Kumaria.> > > > > > vedic astrology, ramana mv> > wrote:> > > > Hi friends > > > > any one of you can tell me about influence of > > > > Jupiter and ketu in 12th house for tula lagna> > where> > > > lagna lord venus is in 6th house (meena) along> > with Rahu.> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign> > up now.> > > > http://mailplus.> > > > > > > > > Sponsor > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Archives:> > vedic astrology> > > > > > Group info:> >>vedic astrology/info.html> > > > > > To UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to> > vedic astrology-@e...> > > > > > > > > > > > || Om Tat Sat || Sarvam Sri> > Krishnaarpanamastu || > > > > > > Your use of is subject to the> > Terms of > > Service.> > > > > > Sponsor> > > > Archives:> > vedic astrology> > > > Group info:> >>vedic astrology/info.html> > > > To UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to> > vedic astrology-> > > > ....... 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Guest guest Posted December 6, 2002 Report Share Posted December 6, 2002 Dear Chintan(another bold attempt on my part.. I have attached your charts below so that other list members can make corrections etc., all this is absed upon Parasara, kT Shubkaran and ANNUAL TITHI Ashtottari Dasa articles of this group by PVR RAO.. we have to combine various dasas and eveything to reach some conclusions i.e, that's all that i have understood so far in vedic astrology). Here's what i found: 1. Mercury/Saturn: Failures, frustrations and loss of proper thinking especialy since Mercury and saturn are placed in 6th/8th position from each other(Btw I am also going through same combination). He can overcome the period by worshipping Lord Shiva and Goddess Parvathi. 2. Mercury/Saturn/Venus: an excllent period financially. chances of foreign travel arise. Mercury/saturn/sun: problems of all types until you reach Mercury/Saturn/Jupiter on 14th april 2004. 3. chintan 2003 tithi ashottari dasa: Jupiter dasa (64 days) from 6th Feb 2003, followed by Rahu(40 days), Venus(70 days), Sun(22 days), Moon(42 days), Mars(28 days), Mercury(62 days), Saturn(66 days) and Jupiter (64 days) in one continuous sequence. 4. Future Annual Jupiter period for 64 days from 6th Feb2003: Jupiter as Lagna and 4th Lord is placed in 10th house in dasamsa with Mercury in Virgo sign. Abmitious behaviour and things can fructify subject to some strong efforts. Also only Mercury and jupiter periods are good in 2003 , other periods require lot of efforts on a comparision basis. you can calculate the dates as given above. 5. Past Annual Jupiter period for 64 days from 1/19/2002 Jupiter as 8th and 11th Lord in 6th house in dasamsa was full of struglles and you might have got a job after tremedous struggle only. 6. Conclusions: You have a good period financially for next 4/5 months based on vimshottari dasa until mercury/saturn/sun starts, but getting a job depends upon your efforts only. In general 2002 was a very tough year. Hope this helps. All the best Rajesh Kumaria vedic astrology, Chintan Chhaya <chintanchhaya> wrote: > > Hi Rajesh, > Thanks a lot for ur elaborated explaination. > This is a male chart...Its me. U are absolutely right....success after tremendous struggle. I have a few questions at this time...I am running under Mercury-Saturn-Venus Dasha. > Infact Venus Pratyantar started 30th November and on dec 2nd I have lost my job...I will be out of my project by this month end. I am in USA now to work and earn. How do u see the future happenings...as Venus is my functional malefic...and I am runnings its pratyantar. How long will it remain..I mean when will I get a new job ? ? OR do I need to go back...?? OR I will find a good job by may 2003...start of sun Pratyantar ? ? ? How about jan-feb 2003 period...Mart transiting over my 7th house and aspecting 10th job house...will it be fruitful ? ? > Please answer.. > Thanks for ur help and guidence. > Chintan. Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now. http://mailplus. Attachment: (application/octet-stream) chintan.jhd [not stored] Attachment: (application/octet-stream) chintan2003.jhd [not stored] Attachment: (application/octet-stream) chintan2002.jhd [not stored] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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