Invitation for a serious and different Vedic astrology experience

November 30, 2002

Dear Group,

Here is an invitation for a serious and different Vedic astrology

experience.

'Vjyotish' is a dynamic model for predictions, based on Vedic

Astrology principles. The innovative is the 'concept' and 'method' of

drawing a net astrological conclusion in precise numerical terms,

called as 'net astrological effect', by mathematically quantifying

various key astrological parameters. The method is unique in that it

quantifies the benefic and malefic influences of each planet in

precise unambiguous figures. It is also unique in that it combines

the

effects of different planets and houses and can integrate the effects

of various planets with respect to each other.

The program integrates natal promises of various planets in a

horoscope with their transit status in a very simple and elegant

manner. Eminent astrology scholars, like Dr.K.S.Charak,

Prof.P.S.Sastri, Mr.Vinay Aditya, Dr.Amitabh Varma; after going

through the calculation algorithm of 'Vjyotish indexes', opined that

it is indeed a pioneering concept in the history of computer

astrology

that has ever been visualized for analyzing 'each day' of a person in

such detail. Please visit the following url to read their opinions:

http://www.howisyourdaytoday.com/Testimon.htm

The innovation is in the 'way', in which several established Vedic

astrology principles are simultaneously integrated to gauge the exact

benefic and malefic effects of each planet in natal horoscope as well

as in their daily transit. The program can analyze a day with

reference to each house of a person's horoscope individually.

You may download a full working Vjyotish from my site. You will be

able to use and evaluate all the features of this software. However

the results will be for a sample person until you obtain your

personal

data files. The download size of installation file is about 1.95 MB.

The program can be downloaded from the following url:

http://www.howisyourdaytoday.com/DwnlodVJ.htm

To know more about Vjyotish, please visit the following page:

http://www.howisyourdaytoday.com/WhatIsVJ.htm

I humbly request opinion and suggestions from the astrology scholars,

like you, in a constant effort of upgrading my program.

Best regards,

Shyaam Sunder Kansal

(System developer of Vjyotish)

http://www.howisyourdaytoday.com

December 1, 2002

Hi

I would be more interested in this if you published more data files for

known personalities. The sample chart supplied is that of Lady Diana, for

2001-2002. This is pretty much useless for evaluation.

Regards,

Nimmi Ragavan

-

"Shyaam Sunder Kansal" <shyaamkansal

Sunday, December 01, 2002 7:37 AM

[vedic astrology] Invitation for a serious and different Vedic

astrology experience

>

> Dear Group,

>

> Here is an invitation for a serious and different Vedic astrology

> experience.

>

> 'Vjyotish' is a dynamic model for predictions, based on Vedic

> Astrology principles. The innovative is the 'concept' and 'method' of

> drawing a net astrological conclusion in precise numerical terms,

> called as 'net astrological effect', by mathematically quantifying

> various key astrological parameters. The method is unique in that it

> quantifies the benefic and malefic influences of each planet in

> precise unambiguous figures. It is also unique in that it combines

> the

> effects of different planets and houses and can integrate the effects

> of various planets with respect to each other.

>

> The program integrates natal promises of various planets in a

> horoscope with their transit status in a very simple and elegant

> manner. Eminent astrology scholars, like Dr.K.S.Charak,

> Prof.P.S.Sastri, Mr.Vinay Aditya, Dr.Amitabh Varma; after going

> through the calculation algorithm of 'Vjyotish indexes', opined that

> it is indeed a pioneering concept in the history of computer

> astrology

> that has ever been visualized for analyzing 'each day' of a person in

> such detail. Please visit the following url to read their opinions:

> http://www.howisyourdaytoday.com/Testimon.htm

>

> The innovation is in the 'way', in which several established Vedic

> astrology principles are simultaneously integrated to gauge the exact

> benefic and malefic effects of each planet in natal horoscope as well

> as in their daily transit. The program can analyze a day with

> reference to each house of a person's horoscope individually.

>

> You may download a full working Vjyotish from my site. You will be

> able to use and evaluate all the features of this software. However

> the results will be for a sample person until you obtain your

> personal

> data files. The download size of installation file is about 1.95 MB.

> The program can be downloaded from the following url:

> http://www.howisyourdaytoday.com/DwnlodVJ.htm

>

> To know more about Vjyotish, please visit the following page:

> http://www.howisyourdaytoday.com/WhatIsVJ.htm

>

> I humbly request opinion and suggestions from the astrology scholars,

> like you, in a constant effort of upgrading my program.

>

> Best regards,

>

> Shyaam Sunder Kansal

> (System developer of Vjyotish)

> http://www.howisyourdaytoday.com

>

> ....... May Jupiter's light shine on us .......

>

> Your use of is subject to

>

December 2, 2002

Hi

The software is totally useless. It does not have menus and

other useful things. It made me feel like I am using a software from

90's. It is just a total waste of time. Your web site look good not

the software.

Murali

vedic astrology, "Nimmi Ragavan" <106350.3660@c...> wrote:

> Hi

>

> I would be more interested in this if you published more data files

for

> known personalities. The sample chart supplied is that of Lady

Diana, for

> 2001-2002. This is pretty much useless for evaluation.

>

> Regards,

>

> Nimmi Ragavan

>

> -

> "Shyaam Sunder Kansal" <shyaamkansal@r...>

> <vedic astrology>

> Sunday, December 01, 2002 7:37 AM

> [vedic astrology] Invitation for a serious and different

Vedic

> astrology experience

>

> >

> > Dear Group,

> >

> > Here is an invitation for a serious and different Vedic astrology

> > experience.

> >

> > 'Vjyotish' is a dynamic model for predictions, based on Vedic

> > Astrology principles. The innovative is the 'concept'

and 'method' of

> > drawing a net astrological conclusion in precise numerical terms,

> > called as 'net astrological effect', by mathematically quantifying

> > various key astrological parameters. The method is unique in that

it

> > quantifies the benefic and malefic influences of each planet in

> > precise unambiguous figures. It is also unique in that it combines

> > the

> > effects of different planets and houses and can integrate the

effects

> > of various planets with respect to each other.

> >

> > The program integrates natal promises of various planets in a

> > horoscope with their transit status in a very simple and elegant

> > manner. Eminent astrology scholars, like Dr.K.S.Charak,

> > Prof.P.S.Sastri, Mr.Vinay Aditya, Dr.Amitabh Varma; after going

> > through the calculation algorithm of 'Vjyotish indexes', opined

that

> > it is indeed a pioneering concept in the history of computer

> > astrology

> > that has ever been visualized for analyzing 'each day' of a

person in

> > such detail. Please visit the following url to read their

opinions:

> > http://www.howisyourdaytoday.com/Testimon.htm

> >

> > The innovation is in the 'way', in which several established Vedic

> > astrology principles are simultaneously integrated to gauge the

exact

> > benefic and malefic effects of each planet in natal horoscope as

well

> > as in their daily transit. The program can analyze a day with

> > reference to each house of a person's horoscope individually.

> >

> > You may download a full working Vjyotish from my site. You will be

> > able to use and evaluate all the features of this software.

However

> > the results will be for a sample person until you obtain your

> > personal

> > data files. The download size of installation file is about 1.95

MB.

> > The program can be downloaded from the following url:

> > http://www.howisyourdaytoday.com/DwnlodVJ.htm

> >

> > To know more about Vjyotish, please visit the following page:

> > http://www.howisyourdaytoday.com/WhatIsVJ.htm

> >

> > I humbly request opinion and suggestions from the astrology

scholars,

> > like you, in a constant effort of upgrading my program.

> >

> > Best regards,

> >

> > Shyaam Sunder Kansal

> > (System developer of Vjyotish)

> > http://www.howisyourdaytoday.com

> >

> > To UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology-@e...

> >

> > ....... May Jupiter's light shine on us .......

> >

> > Your use of is subject to

> >

December 3, 2002

Dear Nimmi

Thanks for a very good suggestion. I'll certainly add some more

charts. Lady Diana's chart has been analyzed through Vjyotish (for

the date of her accident in Paris) in much details. Please visit

http://www.howisyourdaytoday.com/Incident.htm

I always look forward for opinion and suggestions from the astrology

scholars like you, in a constant effort of upgrading my program.

Best regards

Shyaam Sunder Kansal

(shyaamkansal)

vedic astrology, "Nimmi Ragavan" <106350.3660@c...> wrote:

> Hi

>

> I would be more interested in this if you published more data files

for

> known personalities. The sample chart supplied is that of Lady

Diana, for

> 2001-2002. This is pretty much useless for evaluation.

>

> Regards,

>

> Nimmi Ragavan

>

> -

> "Shyaam Sunder Kansal" <shyaamkansal@r...>

> <vedic astrology>

> Sunday, December 01, 2002 7:37 AM

> [vedic astrology] Invitation for a serious and different

Vedic

> astrology experience

>

> >

> > Dear Group,

> >

> > Here is an invitation for a serious and different Vedic astrology

> > experience.

> >

> > 'Vjyotish' is a dynamic model for predictions, based on Vedic

> > Astrology principles. The innovative is the 'concept'

and 'method' of

> > drawing a net astrological conclusion in precise numerical terms,

> > called as 'net astrological effect', by mathematically quantifying

> > various key astrological parameters. The method is unique in that

it

> > quantifies the benefic and malefic influences of each planet in

> > precise unambiguous figures. It is also unique in that it combines

> > the

> > effects of different planets and houses and can integrate the

effects

> > of various planets with respect to each other.

> >

> > The program integrates natal promises of various planets in a

> > horoscope with their transit status in a very simple and elegant

> > manner. Eminent astrology scholars, like Dr.K.S.Charak,

> > Prof.P.S.Sastri, Mr.Vinay Aditya, Dr.Amitabh Varma; after going

> > through the calculation algorithm of 'Vjyotish indexes', opined

that

> > it is indeed a pioneering concept in the history of computer

> > astrology

> > that has ever been visualized for analyzing 'each day' of a

person in

> > such detail. Please visit the following url to read their

opinions:

> > http://www.howisyourdaytoday.com/Testimon.htm

> >

> > The innovation is in the 'way', in which several established Vedic

> > astrology principles are simultaneously integrated to gauge the

exact

> > benefic and malefic effects of each planet in natal horoscope as

well

> > as in their daily transit. The program can analyze a day with

> > reference to each house of a person's horoscope individually.

> >

> > You may download a full working Vjyotish from my site. You will be

> > able to use and evaluate all the features of this software.

However

> > the results will be for a sample person until you obtain your

> > personal

> > data files. The download size of installation file is about 1.95

MB.

> > The program can be downloaded from the following url:

> > http://www.howisyourdaytoday.com/DwnlodVJ.htm

> >

> > To know more about Vjyotish, please visit the following page:

> > http://www.howisyourdaytoday.com/WhatIsVJ.htm

> >

> > I humbly request opinion and suggestions from the astrology

scholars,

> > like you, in a constant effort of upgrading my program.

> >

> > Best regards,

> >

> > Shyaam Sunder Kansal

> > (System developer of Vjyotish)

> > http://www.howisyourdaytoday.com

> >

> > To UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology-@e...

> >

> > ....... May Jupiter's light shine on us .......

> >

> > Your use of is subject to

> >

December 3, 2002

Dear Murali

Thank you very much for showing interest in evaluating "Vjyotish". I

am interested in knowing what "Menus" and "Other useful things" you

are referring to.

Yes, it is true that my software does not have a very pretty

interface. But I thought that you would be evaluating the concept not

the software interface.

Best regards

Shyaam Sunder Kansal

vedic astrology, "Murali" <muralir> wrote:

> Hi

> The software is totally useless. It does not have menus and

> other useful things. It made me feel like I am using a software

from

> 90's. It is just a total waste of time. Your web site look good not

> the software.

>

> Murali

>

> vedic astrology, "Nimmi Ragavan" <106350.3660@c...>

wrote:

> > Hi

> >

> > I would be more interested in this if you published more data

files

> for

> > known personalities. The sample chart supplied is that of Lady

> Diana, for

> > 2001-2002. This is pretty much useless for evaluation.

> >

> > Regards,

> >

> > Nimmi Ragavan

> >

> > -

> > "Shyaam Sunder Kansal" <shyaamkansal@r...>

> > <vedic astrology>

> > Sunday, December 01, 2002 7:37 AM

> > [vedic astrology] Invitation for a serious and different

> Vedic

> > astrology experience

> >

> > >

> > > Dear Group,

> > >

> > > Here is an invitation for a serious and different Vedic

astrology

> > > experience.

> > >

> > > 'Vjyotish' is a dynamic model for predictions, based on Vedic

> > > Astrology principles. The innovative is the 'concept'

> and 'method' of

> > > drawing a net astrological conclusion in precise numerical

terms,

> > > called as 'net astrological effect', by mathematically

quantifying

> > > various key astrological parameters. The method is unique in

that

> it

> > > quantifies the benefic and malefic influences of each planet in

> > > precise unambiguous figures. It is also unique in that it

combines

> > > the

> > > effects of different planets and houses and can integrate the

> effects

> > > of various planets with respect to each other.

> > >

> > > The program integrates natal promises of various planets in a

> > > horoscope with their transit status in a very simple and elegant

> > > manner. Eminent astrology scholars, like Dr.K.S.Charak,

> > > Prof.P.S.Sastri, Mr.Vinay Aditya, Dr.Amitabh Varma; after going

> > > through the calculation algorithm of 'Vjyotish indexes', opined

> that

> > > it is indeed a pioneering concept in the history of computer

> > > astrology

> > > that has ever been visualized for analyzing 'each day' of a

> person in

> > > such detail. Please visit the following url to read their

> opinions:

> > > http://www.howisyourdaytoday.com/Testimon.htm

> > >

> > > The innovation is in the 'way', in which several established

Vedic

> > > astrology principles are simultaneously integrated to gauge the

> exact

> > > benefic and malefic effects of each planet in natal horoscope

as

> well

> > > as in their daily transit. The program can analyze a day with

> > > reference to each house of a person's horoscope individually.

> > >

> > > You may download a full working Vjyotish from my site. You will

be

> > > able to use and evaluate all the features of this software.

> However

> > > the results will be for a sample person until you obtain your

> > > personal

> > > data files. The download size of installation file is about

1.95

> MB.

> > > The program can be downloaded from the following url:

> > > http://www.howisyourdaytoday.com/DwnlodVJ.htm

> > >

> > > To know more about Vjyotish, please visit the following page:

> > > http://www.howisyourdaytoday.com/WhatIsVJ.htm

> > >

> > > I humbly request opinion and suggestions from the astrology

> scholars,

> > > like you, in a constant effort of upgrading my program.

> > >

> > > Best regards,

> > >

> > > Shyaam Sunder Kansal

> > > (System developer of Vjyotish)

> > > http://www.howisyourdaytoday.com

> > >

> > > Group info: vedic-

astrology/info.html

> > >

> > > To UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology-@e...

> > >

> > > ....... May Jupiter's light shine on us .......

> > >

> > > Your use of is subject to

>

> > >

December 3, 2002

Dear Shyam,

I had a look at that. It was interesting, but not, to my mind, conclusive.

You would need the indices for a few periods to ensure that the same pattern

did not previously occur without any such traumatic incident.

Why dont you put out demo-ware on a website so that people can calculate the

indices for any chart, but only for past dates, not future dates. This will

allow them to test their own and known charts to check past predictive

values. I dont think you will get many paying to test your software with

past data.

If usage gets very high, you may want to control the access by limiting the

number of calculations you support per user id. This may or may not happen.

But I think you want more testing not less, as the number of successful

tests will drive your sales.

Also, this way, any results will be obtained by an independent test - you

will not know the details of the incidents. Sales as a result of such a test

will probably be of a long term nature, and result in regular subscriptions,

and good word of mouth sales.

Regards,

Nimmi Ragavan

-

"Shyaam Sunder Kansal" <shyaamkansal

Tuesday, December 03, 2002 8:10 AM

[vedic astrology] Re: Invitation for a serious and different Vedic

astrology experience

>

> Dear Nimmi

>

> Thanks for a very good suggestion. I'll certainly add some more

> charts. Lady Diana's chart has been analyzed through Vjyotish (for

> the date of her accident in Paris) in much details. Please visit

> http://www.howisyourdaytoday.com/Incident.htm

>

> I always look forward for opinion and suggestions from the astrology

> scholars like you, in a constant effort of upgrading my program.

>

> Best regards

> Shyaam Sunder Kansal

> (shyaamkansal)

>

> vedic astrology, "Nimmi Ragavan" <106350.3660@c...> wrote:

> > Hi

> >

> > I would be more interested in this if you published more data files

> for

> > known personalities. The sample chart supplied is that of Lady

> Diana, for

> > 2001-2002. This is pretty much useless for evaluation.

> >

> > Regards,

> >

> > Nimmi Ragavan

> >

> > -

> > "Shyaam Sunder Kansal" <shyaamkansal@r...>

> > <vedic astrology>

> > Sunday, December 01, 2002 7:37 AM

> > [vedic astrology] Invitation for a serious and different

> Vedic

> > astrology experience

> >

> > >

> > > Dear Group,

> > >

> > > Here is an invitation for a serious and different Vedic astrology

> > > experience.

> > >

> > > 'Vjyotish' is a dynamic model for predictions, based on Vedic

> > > Astrology principles. The innovative is the 'concept'

> and 'method' of

> > > drawing a net astrological conclusion in precise numerical terms,

> > > called as 'net astrological effect', by mathematically quantifying

> > > various key astrological parameters. The method is unique in that

> it

> > > quantifies the benefic and malefic influences of each planet in

> > > precise unambiguous figures. It is also unique in that it combines

> > > the

> > > effects of different planets and houses and can integrate the

> effects

> > > of various planets with respect to each other.

> > >

> > > The program integrates natal promises of various planets in a

> > > horoscope with their transit status in a very simple and elegant

> > > manner. Eminent astrology scholars, like Dr.K.S.Charak,

> > > Prof.P.S.Sastri, Mr.Vinay Aditya, Dr.Amitabh Varma; after going

> > > through the calculation algorithm of 'Vjyotish indexes', opined

> that

> > > it is indeed a pioneering concept in the history of computer

> > > astrology

> > > that has ever been visualized for analyzing 'each day' of a

> person in

> > > such detail. Please visit the following url to read their

> opinions:

> > > http://www.howisyourdaytoday.com/Testimon.htm

> > >

> > > The innovation is in the 'way', in which several established Vedic

> > > astrology principles are simultaneously integrated to gauge the

> exact

> > > benefic and malefic effects of each planet in natal horoscope as

> well

> > > as in their daily transit. The program can analyze a day with

> > > reference to each house of a person's horoscope individually.

> > >

> > > You may download a full working Vjyotish from my site. You will be

> > > able to use and evaluate all the features of this software.

> However

> > > the results will be for a sample person until you obtain your

> > > personal

> > > data files. The download size of installation file is about 1.95

> MB.

> > > The program can be downloaded from the following url:

> > > http://www.howisyourdaytoday.com/DwnlodVJ.htm

> > >

> > > To know more about Vjyotish, please visit the following page:

> > > http://www.howisyourdaytoday.com/WhatIsVJ.htm

> > >

> > > I humbly request opinion and suggestions from the astrology

> scholars,

> > > like you, in a constant effort of upgrading my program.

> > >

> > > Best regards,

> > >

> > > Shyaam Sunder Kansal

> > > (System developer of Vjyotish)

> > > http://www.howisyourdaytoday.com

> > >

> > > To UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology-@e...

> > >

> > > ....... May Jupiter's light shine on us .......

> > >

> > > Your use of is subject to

>

> > >

>

> ....... May Jupiter's light shine on us .......

>

> Your use of is subject to

>

December 4, 2002

Dear Nimmi

I have just made a provision to test an event of one's

life through Vjyotish, free of cost, on your suggestion.

My experience shows that Vjyotish index values suddenly

drops when a negative event is in the offing. I have tested

it hundreds of times myself. Though one thing has also been

noticed that negative results are more visible than the

positive results in one's life. It may be due to the reason

that we do not feel average quantum of positive results

easily while negativity is felt immediately. That's why I

ask to test a "very negative event" of your life. Any

person can test himself/herself by downloading "Vjyotish"

from the following location:

http://www.howisyourdaytoday.com/DwnlodVJ.htm

After downloading the program, visit following page to

submit me the birth-details and specify the 3 month period

(from any year) during which a particular negative event

has occurred (without telling the exact date of event):

http://www.howisyourdaytoday.com/othrserv/trialvj.htm

For example, if a serious mis-happening occurred on

12th July 1980, you may ask to test Vjyotish from 25th

June 1980 to 24th Sept. 1980.

I'll send the pre-processed Vjyotish data files for the

required period of past 3 months and the person concerned

can himself/herself check whether Vjyotish data values

had a sudden drop on exact date of event (+ or - one day

error is permissible). Most probably, the Vjyotish values

will be highly negative. Even if the values were in positive

zone on that date, it would be lowest on that date, having

higher positive values on other surrounding dates. In any

case, a clear bottom in index should be visible.

I have not come across any other software till date with

similar capabilities. I may be ignorant if there exists one.

I shall be really grateful to the person who can provide me

the information about any such astrology software with date

pin-pointing capabilities.

Many thanks and regards

Shyaam Sunder Kansal

(shyaamkansal @ )

vedic astrology, "Nimmi Ragavan" <106350.3660@c...> wrote:

> Dear Shyam,

>

> I had a look at that. It was interesting, but not, to my mind,

conclusive.

> You would need the indices for a few periods to ensure that the

same pattern

> did not previously occur without any such traumatic incident.

>

> Why dont you put out demo-ware on a website so that people can

calculate the

> indices for any chart, but only for past dates, not future dates.

This will

> allow them to test their own and known charts to check past

predictive

> values. I dont think you will get many paying to test your software

with

> past data.

>

> If usage gets very high, you may want to control the access by

limiting the

> number of calculations you support per user id. This may or may not

happen.

> But I think you want more testing not less, as the number of

successful

> tests will drive your sales.

>

> Also, this way, any results will be obtained by an independent

test - you

> will not know the details of the incidents. Sales as a result of

such a test

> will probably be of a long term nature, and result in regular

subscriptions,

> and good word of mouth sales.

>

> Regards,

>

> Nimmi Ragavan

December 4, 2002

Dear Shyam,

Excellent idea. I will post a chart with an event that I have not discussed

on the list before so that is a completely blind test. It will take me some

time to get this, so bear with me. Ideally it should be a date that I do not

know exactly either. However, I would also suggest that you increase the

size of the window to about 5-6 months, so that the big dip is obvious. But

if you think the pattern should show up clearly in a 3 month period, that is

OK by me.

Regards,

Nimmi Ragavan

-

"Shyaam Sunder Kansal" <shyaamkansal

Wednesday, December 04, 2002 12:40 PM

[vedic astrology] Re: Invitation for a serious and different Vedic

astrology experience

>

> Dear Nimmi

>

> I have just made a provision to test an event of one's

> life through Vjyotish, free of cost, on your suggestion.

> My experience shows that Vjyotish index values suddenly

> drops when a negative event is in the offing. I have tested

> it hundreds of times myself. Though one thing has also been

> noticed that negative results are more visible than the

> positive results in one's life. It may be due to the reason

> that we do not feel average quantum of positive results

> easily while negativity is felt immediately. That's why I

> ask to test a "very negative event" of your life. Any

> person can test himself/herself by downloading "Vjyotish"

> from the following location:

> http://www.howisyourdaytoday.com/DwnlodVJ.htm

>

> After downloading the program, visit following page to

> submit me the birth-details and specify the 3 month period

> (from any year) during which a particular negative event

> has occurred (without telling the exact date of event):

> http://www.howisyourdaytoday.com/othrserv/trialvj.htm

>

> For example, if a serious mis-happening occurred on

> 12th July 1980, you may ask to test Vjyotish from 25th

> June 1980 to 24th Sept. 1980.

>

> I'll send the pre-processed Vjyotish data files for the

> required period of past 3 months and the person concerned

> can himself/herself check whether Vjyotish data values

> had a sudden drop on exact date of event (+ or - one day

> error is permissible). Most probably, the Vjyotish values

> will be highly negative. Even if the values were in positive

> zone on that date, it would be lowest on that date, having

> higher positive values on other surrounding dates. In any

> case, a clear bottom in index should be visible.

>

> I have not come across any other software till date with

> similar capabilities. I may be ignorant if there exists one.

> I shall be really grateful to the person who can provide me

> the information about any such astrology software with date

> pin-pointing capabilities.

>

> Many thanks and regards

> Shyaam Sunder Kansal

> (shyaamkansal @ )

>

> vedic astrology, "Nimmi Ragavan" <106350.3660@c...> wrote:

> > Dear Shyam,

> >

> > I had a look at that. It was interesting, but not, to my mind,

> conclusive.

> > You would need the indices for a few periods to ensure that the

> same pattern

> > did not previously occur without any such traumatic incident.

> >

> > Why dont you put out demo-ware on a website so that people can

> calculate the

> > indices for any chart, but only for past dates, not future dates.

> This will

> > allow them to test their own and known charts to check past

> predictive

> > values. I dont think you will get many paying to test your software

> with

> > past data.

> >

> > If usage gets very high, you may want to control the access by

> limiting the

> > number of calculations you support per user id. This may or may not

> happen.

> > But I think you want more testing not less, as the number of

> successful

> > tests will drive your sales.

> >

> > Also, this way, any results will be obtained by an independent

> test - you

> > will not know the details of the incidents. Sales as a result of

> such a test

> > will probably be of a long term nature, and result in regular

> subscriptions,

> > and good word of mouth sales.

> >

> > Regards,

> >

> > Nimmi Ragavan

>

> ....... May Jupiter's light shine on us .......

>

> Your use of is subject to

>

December 4, 2002

Shyam,

I am trying to find good charts where the ascendant is not on the border

between two signs, where the time of birth is accurate, and there are

traumatic events with a known date. Too many of the test cases I have are

borderline ascendants, the time of birth is uncertain, or the person has a

bad memory!

I will publish the results to the list.

Best wishes,

Nimmi Ragavan

-

"Shyaam Sunder Kansal" <shyaamkansal

Wednesday, December 04, 2002 12:40 PM

[vedic astrology] Re: Invitation for a serious and different Vedic

astrology experience

>

> Dear Nimmi

>

> I have just made a provision to test an event of one's

> life through Vjyotish, free of cost, on your suggestion.

> My experience shows that Vjyotish index values suddenly

> drops when a negative event is in the offing. I have tested

> it hundreds of times myself. Though one thing has also been

> noticed that negative results are more visible than the

> positive results in one's life. It may be due to the reason

> that we do not feel average quantum of positive results

> easily while negativity is felt immediately. That's why I

> ask to test a "very negative event" of your life. Any

> person can test himself/herself by downloading "Vjyotish"

> from the following location:

> http://www.howisyourdaytoday.com/DwnlodVJ.htm

>

> After downloading the program, visit following page to

> submit me the birth-details and specify the 3 month period

> (from any year) during which a particular negative event

> has occurred (without telling the exact date of event):

> http://www.howisyourdaytoday.com/othrserv/trialvj.htm

>

> For example, if a serious mis-happening occurred on

> 12th July 1980, you may ask to test Vjyotish from 25th

> June 1980 to 24th Sept. 1980.

>

> I'll send the pre-processed Vjyotish data files for the

> required period of past 3 months and the person concerned

> can himself/herself check whether Vjyotish data values

> had a sudden drop on exact date of event (+ or - one day

> error is permissible). Most probably, the Vjyotish values

> will be highly negative. Even if the values were in positive

> zone on that date, it would be lowest on that date, having

> higher positive values on other surrounding dates. In any

> case, a clear bottom in index should be visible.

>

> I have not come across any other software till date with

> similar capabilities. I may be ignorant if there exists one.

> I shall be really grateful to the person who can provide me

> the information about any such astrology software with date

> pin-pointing capabilities.

>

> Many thanks and regards

> Shyaam Sunder Kansal

> (shyaamkansal @ )

>

> vedic astrology, "Nimmi Ragavan" <106350.3660@c...> wrote:

> > Dear Shyam,

> >

> > I had a look at that. It was interesting, but not, to my mind,

> conclusive.

> > You would need the indices for a few periods to ensure that the

> same pattern

> > did not previously occur without any such traumatic incident.

> >

> > Why dont you put out demo-ware on a website so that people can

> calculate the

> > indices for any chart, but only for past dates, not future dates.

> This will

> > allow them to test their own and known charts to check past

> predictive

> > values. I dont think you will get many paying to test your software

> with

> > past data.

> >

> > If usage gets very high, you may want to control the access by

> limiting the

> > number of calculations you support per user id. This may or may not

> happen.

> > But I think you want more testing not less, as the number of

> successful

> > tests will drive your sales.

> >

> > Also, this way, any results will be obtained by an independent

> test - you

> > will not know the details of the incidents. Sales as a result of

> such a test

> > will probably be of a long term nature, and result in regular

> subscriptions,

> > and good word of mouth sales.

> >

> > Regards,

> >

> > Nimmi Ragavan

>

> ....... May Jupiter's light shine on us .......

>

> Your use of is subject to

>

December 4, 2002

Thank you Nimmi. It will be a proper statistical accuracy test

for "Vjyotish" by an independent astrology scholar.

Shyaam

vedic astrology, "Nimmi Ragavan" <106350.3660@c...> wrote:

> Shyam,

>

> I am trying to find good charts where the ascendant is not on the

border

> between two signs, where the time of birth is accurate, and there

are

> traumatic events with a known date. Too many of the test cases I

have are

> borderline ascendants, the time of birth is uncertain, or the

person has a

> bad memory!

>

> I will publish the results to the list.

>

> Best wishes,

>

> Nimmi Ragavan

December 5, 2002

Hi Nimmi,

My chart meets your criteria:

1. My birth data : 11:44.10 am, 24th Sept, 1975, New

Delhi(chart rectified from 11:45 am by Visti)

2. My lagna falls at 18 Deg 19'

3. Most traumatic event in my life till date:

(1) My mother died in July 1986.

Please tell your analysis. I am attaching my chart.

Regards,

Saraswathy

vedic astrology, "Nimmi Ragavan"

<106350.3660@c...> wrote:

> Shyam,

>

> I am trying to find good charts where the ascendant

is not on the border

> between two signs, where the time of birth is

accurate, and there are

> traumatic events with a known date. Too many of the

test cases I have are

> borderline ascendants, the time of birth is

uncertain, or the person has a

> bad memory!

>

> I will publish the results to the list.

>

> Best wishes,

>

> Nimmi Ragavan

>

> -

> "Shyaam Sunder Kansal" <shyaamkansal@r...>

> <vedic astrology>

> Wednesday, December 04, 2002 12:40 PM

> [vedic astrology] Re: Invitation for a

serious and different Vedic

> astrology experience

>

> >

> > Dear Nimmi

> >

> > I have just made a provision to test an event of

one's

> > life through Vjyotish, free of cost, on your

suggestion.

> > My experience shows that Vjyotish index values

suddenly

> > drops when a negative event is in the offing. I

have tested

> > it hundreds of times myself. Though one thing has

also been

> > noticed that negative results are more visible

than the

> > positive results in one's life. It may be due to

the reason

> > that we do not feel average quantum of positive

results

> > easily while negativity is felt immediately.

That's why I

> > ask to test a "very negative event" of your life.

Any

> > person can test himself/herself by downloading

"Vjyotish"

> > from the following location:

> > http://www.howisyourdaytoday.com/DwnlodVJ.htm

> >

> > After downloading the program, visit following

page to

> > submit me the birth-details and specify the 3

month period

> > (from any year) during which a particular negative

event

> > has occurred (without telling the exact date of

event):

> >

http://www.howisyourdaytoday.com/othrserv/trialvj.htm

> >

> > For example, if a serious mis-happening occurred

on

> > 12th July 1980, you may ask to test Vjyotish from

25th

> > June 1980 to 24th Sept. 1980.

> >

> > I'll send the pre-processed Vjyotish data files

for the

> > required period of past 3 months and the person

concerned

> > can himself/herself check whether Vjyotish data

values

> > had a sudden drop on exact date of event (+ or -

one day

> > error is permissible). Most probably, the Vjyotish

values

> > will be highly negative. Even if the values were

in positive

> > zone on that date, it would be lowest on that

date, having

> > higher positive values on other surrounding dates.

In any

> > case, a clear bottom in index should be visible.

> >

> > I have not come across any other software till

date with

> > similar capabilities. I may be ignorant if there

exists one.

> > I shall be really grateful to the person who can

provide me

> > the information about any such astrology software

with date

> > pin-pointing capabilities.

> >

> > Many thanks and regards

> > Shyaam Sunder Kansal

> > (shyaamkansal @ )

> >

> > vedic astrology, "Nimmi Ragavan"

<106350.3660@c...> wrote:

> > > Dear Shyam,

> > >

> > > I had a look at that. It was interesting, but

not, to my mind,

> > conclusive.

> > > You would need the indices for a few periods to

ensure that the

> > same pattern

> > > did not previously occur without any such

traumatic incident.

> > >

> > > Why dont you put out demo-ware on a website so

that people can

> > calculate the

> > > indices for any chart, but only for past dates,

not future dates.

> > This will

> > > allow them to test their own and known charts to

check past

> > predictive

> > > values. I dont think you will get many paying to

test your software

> > with

> > > past data.

> > >

> > > If usage gets very high, you may want to control

the access by

> > limiting the

> > > number of calculations you support per user id.

This may or may not

> > happen.

> > > But I think you want more testing not less, as

the number of

> > successful

> > > tests will drive your sales.

> > >

> > > Also, this way, any results will be obtained by

an independent

> > test - you

> > > will not know the details of the incidents.

Sales as a result of

> > such a test

> > > will probably be of a long term nature, and

result in regular

> > subscriptions,

> > > and good word of mouth sales.

> > >

> > > Regards,

> > >

> > > Nimmi Ragavan

> >

> > Archives:

vedic astrology

> >

> > Group info:

vedic astrology/info.html

> >

> > To UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to

vedic astrology-@e...

> >

> > ....... May Jupiter's light shine on us .......

> >

> > || Om Tat Sat || Sarvam Sri

Krishnaarpanamastu ||

> >

> > Your use of is subject to

> >

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Attachment: (application/octet-stream) saras.jhd [not stored]

December 5, 2002

Dear Saraswathy,

I was looking for data that had not been published on the list as a test

case. Your information is now publicly available and no longer suitable for

a test.

Regards,

Nimmi Ragavan

-

"saras VS" <vs_saras

Thursday, December 05, 2002 8:42 AM

[vedic astrology] Re: Invitation for a serious and different Vedic

astrology experience

>

> Hi Nimmi,

>

> My chart meets your criteria:

> 1. My birth data : 11:44.10 am, 24th Sept, 1975, New

> Delhi(chart rectified from 11:45 am by Visti)

>

> 2. My lagna falls at 18 Deg 19'

>

> 3. Most traumatic event in my life till date:

> (1) My mother died in July 1986.

>

> Please tell your analysis. I am attaching my chart.

>

> Regards,

> Saraswathy

>

> vedic astrology, "Nimmi Ragavan"

> <106350.3660@c...> wrote:

> > Shyam,

> >

> > I am trying to find good charts where the ascendant

> is not on the border

> > between two signs, where the time of birth is

> accurate, and there are

> > traumatic events with a known date. Too many of the

> test cases I have are

> > borderline ascendants, the time of birth is

> uncertain, or the person has a

> > bad memory!

> >

> > I will publish the results to the list.

> >

> > Best wishes,

> >

> > Nimmi Ragavan

> >

> > -

> > "Shyaam Sunder Kansal" <shyaamkansal@r...>

> > <vedic astrology>

> > Wednesday, December 04, 2002 12:40 PM

> > [vedic astrology] Re: Invitation for a

> serious and different Vedic

> > astrology experience

> >

> > >

> > > Dear Nimmi

> > >

> > > I have just made a provision to test an event of

> one's

> > > life through Vjyotish, free of cost, on your

> suggestion.

> > > My experience shows that Vjyotish index values

> suddenly

> > > drops when a negative event is in the offing. I

> have tested

> > > it hundreds of times myself. Though one thing has

> also been

> > > noticed that negative results are more visible

> than the

> > > positive results in one's life. It may be due to

> the reason

> > > that we do not feel average quantum of positive

> results

> > > easily while negativity is felt immediately.

> That's why I

> > > ask to test a "very negative event" of your life.

> Any

> > > person can test himself/herself by downloading

> "Vjyotish"

> > > from the following location:

> > > http://www.howisyourdaytoday.com/DwnlodVJ.htm

> > >

> > > After downloading the program, visit following

> page to

> > > submit me the birth-details and specify the 3

> month period

> > > (from any year) during which a particular negative

> event

> > > has occurred (without telling the exact date of

> event):

> > >

> http://www.howisyourdaytoday.com/othrserv/trialvj.htm

> > >

> > > For example, if a serious mis-happening occurred

> on

> > > 12th July 1980, you may ask to test Vjyotish from

> 25th

> > > June 1980 to 24th Sept. 1980.

> > >

> > > I'll send the pre-processed Vjyotish data files

> for the

> > > required period of past 3 months and the person

> concerned

> > > can himself/herself check whether Vjyotish data

> values

> > > had a sudden drop on exact date of event (+ or -

> one day

> > > error is permissible). Most probably, the Vjyotish

> values

> > > will be highly negative. Even if the values were

> in positive

> > > zone on that date, it would be lowest on that

> date, having

> > > higher positive values on other surrounding dates.

> In any

> > > case, a clear bottom in index should be visible.

> > >

> > > I have not come across any other software till

> date with

> > > similar capabilities. I may be ignorant if there

> exists one.

> > > I shall be really grateful to the person who can

> provide me

> > > the information about any such astrology software

> with date

> > > pin-pointing capabilities.

> > >

> > > Many thanks and regards

> > > Shyaam Sunder Kansal

> > > (shyaamkansal @ )

> > >

> > > vedic astrology, "Nimmi Ragavan"

> <106350.3660@c...> wrote:

> > > > Dear Shyam,

> > > >

> > > > I had a look at that. It was interesting, but

> not, to my mind,

> > > conclusive.

> > > > You would need the indices for a few periods to

> ensure that the

> > > same pattern

> > > > did not previously occur without any such

> traumatic incident.

> > > >

> > > > Why dont you put out demo-ware on a website so

> that people can

> > > calculate the

> > > > indices for any chart, but only for past dates,

> not future dates.

> > > This will

> > > > allow them to test their own and known charts to

> check past

> > > predictive

> > > > values. I dont think you will get many paying to

> test your software

> > > with

> > > > past data.

> > > >

> > > > If usage gets very high, you may want to control

> the access by

> > > limiting the

> > > > number of calculations you support per user id.

> This may or may not

> > > happen.

> > > > But I think you want more testing not less, as

> the number of

> > > successful

> > > > tests will drive your sales.

> > > >

> > > > Also, this way, any results will be obtained by

> an independent

> > > test - you

> > > > will not know the details of the incidents.

> Sales as a result of

> > > such a test

> > > > will probably be of a long term nature, and

> result in regular

> > > subscriptions,

> > > > and good word of mouth sales.

> > > >

> > > > Regards,

> > > >

> > > > Nimmi Ragavan

> > >

> > > Archives:

> vedic astrology

> > >

> > > Group info:

> vedic astrology/info.html

> > >

> > > To UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to

> vedic astrology-@e...

> > >

> > > ....... May Jupiter's light shine on us .......

> > >

> > > || Om Tat Sat || Sarvam Sri

> Krishnaarpanamastu ||

> > >

> > > Your use of is subject to

>

> > >

>

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December 6, 2002

Dear Mr. Kansal,

I have downloaded your software and also filled in my details alongwith a test

event. Look forward to hearing from you.

Regards

Ramesh

-

Shyaam Sunder Kansal

vedic astrology

Wednesday, December 04, 2002 4:40 PM

[vedic astrology] Re: Invitation for a serious and different Vedic astrology experience

Dear NimmiI have just made a provision to test an event of one's life through

Vjyotish, free of cost, on your suggestion.My experience shows that Vjyotish

index values suddenly drops when a negative event is in the offing. I have

tested it hundreds of times myself. Though one thing has also been noticed that

negative results are more visible than the positive results in one's life. It

may be due to the reason that we do not feel average quantum of positive

results easily while negativity is felt immediately. That's why I ask to test a

"very negative event" of your life. Any person can test himself/herself by

downloading "Vjyotish" from the following

location:http://www.howisyourdaytoday.com/DwnlodVJ.htmAfter downloading the

program, visit following page to submit me the birth-details and specify the 3

month period(from any year) during which a particular negative event has

occurred (without telling the exact date of

event):http://www.howisyourdaytoday.com/othrserv/trialvj.htmFor example, if a

serious mis-happening occurred on 12th July 1980, you may ask to test Vjyotish

from 25th June 1980 to 24th Sept. 1980.I'll send the pre-processed Vjyotish

data files for the required period of past 3 months and the person concerned

can himself/herself check whether Vjyotish data values had a sudden drop on

exact date of event (+ or - one day error is permissible). Most probably, the

Vjyotish values will be highly negative. Even if the values were in positive

zone on that date, it would be lowest on that date, having higher positive

values on other surrounding dates. In any case, a clear bottom in index should

be visible.I have not come across any other software till date with similar

capabilities. I may be ignorant if there exists one. I shall be really grateful

to the person who can provide me the information about any such astrology

software with date pin-pointing capabilities.Many thanks and regardsShyaam

Sunder Kansal(shyaamkansal @ )vedic astrology, "Nimmi

Ragavan" <106350.3660@c...> wrote:> Dear Shyam,> > I had a look at that. It was

interesting, but not, to my mind, conclusive.> You would need the indices for a

few periods to ensure that the same pattern> did not previously occur without

any such traumatic incident.> > Why dont you put out demo-ware on a website so

that people can calculate the> indices for any chart, but only for past dates,

not future dates. This will> allow them to test their own and known charts to

check past predictive> values. I dont think you will get many paying to test

your software with> past data.> > If usage gets very high, you may want to

control the access by limiting the> number of calculations you support per user

id. This may or may not happen.> But I think you want more testing not less, as

the number of successful> tests will drive your sales.> > Also, this way, any

results will be obtained by an independent test - you> will not know the

details of the incidents. Sales as a result of such a test> will probably be of

a long term nature, and result in regular subscriptions,> and good word of mouth

sales.> > Regards,> > Nimmi RagavanArchives:

vedic astrologyGroup info:

vedic astrology/info.htmlTo UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank

mail to vedic astrology-....... May Jupiter's light

shine on us .......

December 7, 2002

Dear Ramesh ji

Yes, I have received your details. You will be receiving your

personal Vjyotish data files within a day or two.

Best regards

Shyaam Sunder Kansal

vedic astrology, "Ramesh F. Gangaramani"

<rgangaramani@h...> wrote:

> Dear Mr. Kansal,

> I have downloaded your software and also filled in my details

alongwith a test event. Look forward to hearing from you.

> Regards

> Ramesh

> -

> Shyaam Sunder Kansal

> vedic astrology

> Wednesday, December 04, 2002 4:40 PM

> [vedic astrology] Re: Invitation for a serious and

different Vedic astrology experience

>

> Dear Nimmi

>

> I have just made a provision to test an event of one's

> life through Vjyotish, free of cost, on your suggestion.

> My experience shows that Vjyotish index values suddenly

> drops when a negative event is in the offing. I have tested

> it hundreds of times myself. Though one thing has also been

> noticed that negative results are more visible than the

> positive results in one's life. It may be due to the reason

> that we do not feel average quantum of positive results

> easily while negativity is felt immediately. That's why I

> ask to test a "very negative event" of your life. Any

> person can test himself/herself by downloading "Vjyotish"

> from the following location:

> http://www.howisyourdaytoday.com/DwnlodVJ.htm

>

> After downloading the program, visit following page to

> submit me the birth-details and specify the 3 month period

> (from any year) during which a particular negative event

> has occurred (without telling the exact date of event):

> http://www.howisyourdaytoday.com/othrserv/trialvj.htm

>

> For example, if a serious mis-happening occurred on

> 12th July 1980, you may ask to test Vjyotish from 25th

> June 1980 to 24th Sept. 1980.

>

> I'll send the pre-processed Vjyotish data files for the

> required period of past 3 months and the person concerned

> can himself/herself check whether Vjyotish data values

> had a sudden drop on exact date of event (+ or - one day

> error is permissible). Most probably, the Vjyotish values

> will be highly negative. Even if the values were in positive

> zone on that date, it would be lowest on that date, having

> higher positive values on other surrounding dates. In any

> case, a clear bottom in index should be visible.

>

> I have not come across any other software till date with

> similar capabilities. I may be ignorant if there exists one.

> I shall be really grateful to the person who can provide me

> the information about any such astrology software with date

> pin-pointing capabilities.

>

> Many thanks and regards

> Shyaam Sunder Kansal

> (shyaamkansal @ )

>

> vedic astrology, "Nimmi Ragavan" <106350.3660@c...>

wrote:

> > Dear Shyam,

> >

> > I had a look at that. It was interesting, but not, to my mind,

> conclusive.

> > You would need the indices for a few periods to ensure that the

> same pattern

> > did not previously occur without any such traumatic incident.

> >

> > Why dont you put out demo-ware on a website so that people can

> calculate the

> > indices for any chart, but only for past dates, not future

dates.

> This will

> > allow them to test their own and known charts to check past

> predictive

> > values. I dont think you will get many paying to test your

software

> with

> > past data.

> >

> > If usage gets very high, you may want to control the access by

> limiting the

> > number of calculations you support per user id. This may or may

not

> happen.

> > But I think you want more testing not less, as the number of

> successful

> > tests will drive your sales.

> >

> > Also, this way, any results will be obtained by an independent

> test - you

> > will not know the details of the incidents. Sales as a result

of

> such a test

> > will probably be of a long term nature, and result in regular

> subscriptions,

> > and good word of mouth sales.

> >

> > Regards,

> >

> > Nimmi Ragavan

>

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