Panchanga Examples: My First emails to Sri K.N. Rao and Pt. Sanjay Rath

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Namaste friends,

 

I am travelling on office work and did not get a chance to read the list or send

mails. I thought I'd send a mail today, as I am a little free today.

 

I wrote a while ago that the five limbs of panchanga (tithi, vaara, nakshatra,

yoga, karana) represent the five elements (water, fire, air, ether, earth

respectively). I wrote that water shows harmony and prosperity, fire shows

vitality and longevity, air shows the past karma and distractions, ether shows

the binding force and relations and earth shows the accomplishments.

 

When analyzing a prasna chart (horary chart) or a muhurta chart (electional

chart), we can look at the five limbs of panchanga and each has its own use as

listed above. I will give a couple of new examples.

 

Example 1: My first email to Sri K.N. Rao

 

The first email sent to someone by me shows the initiation of my communication

with that person. If my interactions with a particular person turn out to be

important, then it has be shown in the muhurta chart of the first

communication. This muhurta chart is the seed of all future interaction with

that person.

June 10, 1998Time: 19:21:32Time Zone: 5:30:00 (East of

GMT)Longitude: 77 E 12' 00"Latitude: 28 N 36' 00"Altitude: 0.98

meters

 

Lunar Year: Bahu-dhanyaLunar Month: JyeshthaTithi: Krishna Pratipat

(61.14% left)Weekday: WednesdayNakshatra: Mool (97.57% left)Yoga:

SubhaKarana: Balava

+--------------+|Ju |Ve Sa |Su

Ma | || |GL Gk |Me Md | ||

| | | || | | |

|| | | |

||-----------+-----------------------+-----------||Ke |

|HL || | | ||

| | || | |

|| | | ||-----------|

Rasi |-----------|| | |Ra AL ||

| | || |

| || | | || |

|

||-----------+-----------------------+-----------||Mo |As |

| || | | | ||

| | | || | | |

|| | | |

|+--------------+ Rasi

+--------------+| \

/ \ / || \ Mo / \

/ || \ / \ / || \ /

\ / || \ / \ / ||

x As x || / \ / \

|| / \ / \ || / \

/ \ || / \ 8 / AL \ || /

\ / \ || Ke x Ra

|| \ / \ / || \ /

\ / || \ / \ / ||

\ / Ma \ / || \ / \

/ ||Ju x Md Su x HL || / \

/ \ || / \ Me / \ ||

/ Gk \ / \ || / Ve \ /

\ || / Sa GL \ / \

|+--------------+

+--------------+| \ Md |

| / || \ Me Ma | Ve Sa | / || \

| GL Gk | / || \ Su | | Ju / Ke

|| \ | | / || \ |

| / || \ | | /

||---------------+---------------+---------------|| |

| || HL | | ||

| | || | Rasi |

|| | | || |

| || | |

||---------------+---------------+---------------|| / |

| \ || AL / | | \ || /

| | \ || Ra / | | As \

Mo || / | | \ || / |

| \ || / | | \

|+---------------+---------------+---------------+

You can see that the yoga is Subha (auspicious), ruled by Moon. Though Moon is

the 9th lord (dharma) in the 2nd house (JyotirVidya or astro-learning), he is

placed in the 8th house from paka lagna. Yoga shows aakasa tattva, i.e. the

binding force that brings people together. Yoga lord's bad placement from lagna

lord does not show any important coming together as a result of this

communication.

 

Karana is Balava and lord is Moon again. For coming together, we saw the lagna

lord. For accomplishments, let us see the 2nd and 5th houses as these are

important for this communication. Moon is in 2nd and in a quadrant from 2nd and

5th lord Jupiter in Pisces. Thus, if this communication had led to a

relationship, the relationship would've been fruitful for astrology. Now, you

can see why you cannot make a prediction just on the basis of karana or just on

the basis of tithi. In this case, yoga lord is ill-placed from lagna lord

showing that this interaction may not result in any important relationship.

Thus, any predictions made just on the basis of karana will go wrong.

 

Nakshatra is Moola, ruled by the demon Nirriti. Nakshatra shows the airy element

and shows the karma behind something and distractions etc. Nakshatra ruled by

nirriti shows bad karma. Sri K.N. Rao may be a great astrologer and several

people may have benefitted from his association, but I was not meant to work

with him. I was meant to work with Pt. Sanjay Rath. The short-lived interaction

with Sri K.N. Rao was due to some bad karma by me in the past (as shown by

Nirriti).

 

Finally, look at vaara (weekday), which shows the fire element, to see the

vitality and longevity. Weekday is Wednesday here. While yoga (coming together)

was analyzed w.r.t. the paka lagna, longevity is to be analyzed w.r.t. lagna

only. Mercury is the 8th lord in 7th and a clear maraka (killer). As he governs

the weekday here, it shows that the interaction will be very short-lived. Indeed

my interaction with Sri K.N. Rao was short-lived.

 

Example 2: My first email to Pt. Sanjay Rath

 

November 27, 1997Time: 1:47:00Time Zone: 5:00:00 (West

of GMT)Longitude: 71 W 12' 00"Latitude: 42 N 30' 00"Altitude: 0.84

meters

 

Lunar Year: IsvaraLunar Month: KarthikaTithi: Krishna Trayodasi

(70.73% left)Weekday: WednesdayNakshatra: Swat (84.39% left)Yoga:

SoubhagyaKarana: Garija

+--------------+|SaR | |

|HL || | | | || |

| | || | | |

|| | | |

||-----------+-----------------------+-----------||Ke |

| || | | ||

| | || | |

|| | | ||-----------|

Rasi |-----------||Ju | |Ra ||

| | || |

| || | | || |

|

||-----------+-----------------------+-----------||Ma Me |Su |Mo

GL |As Gk ||Ve AL | |Md | ||

| | | || | | |

|| | | |

|+--------------+ Rasi

+--------------+| \ GL

Md / \ / || \ Mo / \ Ra

/ || \ / \ / || \ / Gk

\ / || \ / \ / ||Su

x As x || / \ / \

|| / \ / \ || / \

/ \ || / Me \ 6 / \ || /

\ / \ || AL Ma x HL

|| \ / \ / || \ Ve /

\ / || \ / \ / ||

\ / \ / || \ / \

/ ||Ju x SaR x || / \

/ \ || / \ / \ ||

/ \ / \ || / Ke \ /

\ || / \ / \

|+--------------+

+--------------+| \ |

| / || \ | | / || \

| | / || HL \ | | SaR / Ke

|| \ | | / || \ |

| / || \ | | /

||---------------+---------------+---------------|| |

| || | | Ju ||

| | || | Rasi |

|| | | || |

| || | |

||---------------+---------------+---------------|| / |

| \ AL || / | Mo GL | \ Ve Me || /

| Md | \ || Ra / As | | Su \

Ma || / | | \ || / Gk |

| \ || / | | \

|+---------------+---------------+---------------+

One analyzing these charts superficially may notice that the first chart has

Jupiter in Pisces in the 5th house and the second chart has debilitated Jupiter

is in the 5th house and conclude that the first chart is stronger. However, let

us do a thorough analysis using the five panchanga elements.

 

You can see that the yoga is Soubhagya (great fortune). Its ruler Venus is in

the 4th house in great digbala (towards moksha). Lagna lord Mercury joins him!

Thus, the yoga lord is well-placed from lagna lord and 9th lord. In the

previous example, yoga lord was well-placed from 9th lord but not from lagna

lord. The potential for a good relationship existed only in one direction. In

this case, yoga lord is well-placed from lagna lord (me) as well as the 9th

lord (Pt. Rath). Thus this interaction can lead to a good relationship. Aakasa

tattva is quite strong. [Note: Those of you who know how to analyze the

weaknesses in various tattvas using D-30 can check out the D-30 of both charts.

In the first example, D-30 shows affliction of aakasa tattva (binding force) by

Rahu and Ketu. In the current example, the signs ruled by Jupiter (aakasa

tattva) in D-30 are empty and thus aakasa tattva is free from affliction. The

10 signs used in D-30 show the 5 elements in pairs by rulership. Aakasa tattva

is represented by Sg and Pi ruled by Jupiter. In D-30, they are afflicted by

nodes in the first example and empty in the second example.]

 

Tithi is Krishna Trayodasi (K13) and karana is Garija. Both are ruled by

Jupiter. Jupiter is well-placed in the 5th house of scholarship and fame and in

the 2nd house of resources/food from paka lagna. Jupiter feeds the intelligence

(paka lagna) and gives fame. Jupiter is debilitated in rasi, but exalted in

navamsa (dharma) and hence attains neecha bhanga. He takes part in a raja yoga

with Saturn (5th and 7th lords having exchange), in Saraswati yoga (good for

learning) with Mercury and Venus and in Gaja-Kesari yoga with Moon. As this

Gaja-Kesari yoga is in 2nd and 5th houses (2nd, 5th, 8th and 11th houses are

important for astrological knowledge), it shows fame in astrology.

 

The above yogas given by Jupiter by themselves do not mean much. When we analyze

a prasna chart or a muhurta chart or a dasa pravesha chart, it is easy to get

carried away by nice yogas. What decides if those yogas fructify or not is the

links with panchanga. Panchanga is a very important aspect of astrology!

 

Here Jupiter owns tithi (watery element - harmony and prosperity) and karana

(earthy element - accomplishments). Thus this interaction will lead to a

relationship that will accomplish a lot in the field of astrology. Had the

tithi and karana belonged to another planet, it would've been a totally

different situation.

 

However, for this relationship to live long, the above elements are not enough -

we need fire. So look at the weekday.

 

Weekday lord is Mercury again. In the first exmaple, he was the 8th lord in 7th.

Here he is the lagna and 10th lord in 4th. While the interaction of the first

example was short-lived, this interaction was to be long-lived. My relationship

with Pt. Rath has only steadily grown since that day. Very soon, five years will

be completed since the first email. During this time, our interaction has been

very very fruitful for me and for some other people who follow my writings.

 

* * *

 

Though it is accepted by almost everyone that the five elements of panchanga are

very important, the exact principles governing their use have been lost. There

is a lot of confusion in this regard and people use them in a mixed up way. Is

the result of a bad karana and a bad yoga the same? Is the result of a bad

weekday and a bad tithi the same? Definitely not, though some people use all

these elements interchangably. I am trying to throw light on these differences,

as taught in our tradition.

 

When you analyze a muhurta chart or a prasna chart or a dasa pravesha chart,

keep these things in mind don't get carried away by nice yogas. Use the five

elements of panchanga to get a clear picture. Understand the meaning of each

element and use accordingly!

May Jupiter's light shine on us,

PVR

[Guest guest]

Aum Namah Sivaya,

Dear Narasimha,

 

Excellent analysis based on the pancha tattva and their association with the

Pancha Angas. However I have a few thoughts in my mind. Please clarify if my

thinking is correct.

 

1. The Karana is of earthy element and rules the overall success failure of

the endeavours. Movable Karanas (excluding Vishti Karana) are auspicious for

all endeavours whereas the Fixed ones are inauspicious. However, from your

mail, I can conclude that the decision regarding sucess and failure can't be

taken only on the basis of the auspiciousness/ inauspiciousness of the

karana. We need to go to the placement of the karana lords. For the movable

karana, which is generally bad, things can turn bad, if the lord is ill

placed and Vice versa.

 

 

2. The Nakshatra, you said is ruled by the Airy element. This element is

ruled by Saturn. I hope that is why you say that this shows the Karma.

Saturn is one of the karaka for 10th showing hard work. So the work involved

in the association or other muhurtha can be predicted based on tha nakshatra

lord (not the vimshottari lord). However I think that the navatara chakra

can be used in muhurthas to check out, how good it this for the native,

probably for the karma part. Please let me know your thinking on this.

 

Regds

Sarajit

 

 

 

 

 

 

>"Narasimha P.V.R. Rao" <nrao

>vedic astrology

><vedic astrology>

>[vedic astrology] Panchanga Examples: My First emails to Sri K.N.

>Rao and Pt. Sanjay Rath

>Sun, 17 Nov 2002 17:16:22 -0800

>

>Namaste friends,

>

>I am travelling on office work and did not get a chance to read the list or

>send mails. I thought I'd send a mail today, as I am a little free today.

>

>I wrote a while ago that the five limbs of panchanga (tithi, vaara,

>nakshatra, yoga, karana) represent the five elements (water, fire, air,

>ether, earth respectively). I wrote that water shows harmony and

>prosperity, fire shows vitality and longevity, air shows the past karma and

>distractions, ether shows the binding force and relations and earth shows

>the accomplishments.

>

>When analyzing a prasna chart (horary chart) or a muhurta chart (electional

>chart), we can look at the five limbs of panchanga and each has its own use

>as listed above. I will give a couple of new examples.

>

>Example 1: My first email to Sri K.N. Rao

>

>The first email sent to someone by me shows the initiation of my

>communication with that person. If my interactions with a particular person

>turn out to be important, then it has be shown in the muhurta chart of the

>first communication. This muhurta chart is the seed of all future

>interaction with that person.

>

> June 10, 1998

>Time: 19:21:32

>Time Zone: 5:30:00 (East of GMT)

>Longitude: 77 E 12' 00"

>Latitude: 28 N 36' 00"

>Altitude: 0.98 meters

>

>Lunar Year: Bahu-dhanya

>Lunar Month: Jyeshtha

>Tithi: Krishna Pratipat (61.14% left)

>Weekday: Wednesday

>Nakshatra: Mool (97.57% left)

>Yoga: Subha

>Karana: Balava

>

>+--------------+

>|Ju |Ve Sa |Su Ma | |

>| |GL Gk |Me Md | |

>| | | | |

>| | | | |

>| | | | |

>|-----------+-----------------------+-----------|

>|Ke | |HL |

>| | | |

>| | | |

>| | | |

>| | | |

>|-----------| Rasi |-----------|

>| | |Ra AL |

>| | | |

>| | | |

>| | | |

>| | | |

>|-----------+-----------------------+-----------|

>|Mo |As | | |

>| | | | |

>| | | | |

>| | | | |

>| | | | |

>+--------------+

>

> Rasi

>+--------------+

>| \ / \ / |

>| \ Mo / \ / |

>| \ / \ / |

>| \ / \ / |

>| \ / \ / |

>| x As x |

>| / \ / \ |

>| / \ / \ |

>| / \ / \ |

>| / \ 8 / AL \ |

>| / \ / \ |

>| Ke x Ra |

>| \ / \ / |

>| \ / \ / |

>| \ / \ / |

>| \ / Ma \ / |

>| \ / \ / |

>|Ju x Md Su x HL |

>| / \ / \ |

>| / \ Me / \ |

>| / Gk \ / \ |

>| / Ve \ / \ |

>| / Sa GL \ / \ |

>+--------------+

>

>+--------------+

>| \ Md | | / |

>| \ Me Ma | Ve Sa | / |

>| \ | GL Gk | / |

>| \ Su | | Ju / Ke |

>| \ | | / |

>| \ | | / |

>| \ | | / |

>|---------------+---------------+---------------|

>| | | |

>| HL | | |

>| | | |

>| | Rasi | |

>| | | |

>| | | |

>| | | |

>|---------------+---------------+---------------|

>| / | | \ |

>| AL / | | \ |

>| / | | \ |

>| Ra / | | As \ Mo |

>| / | | \ |

>| / | | \ |

>| / | | \ |

>+---------------+---------------+---------------+

>

>You can see that the yoga is Subha (auspicious), ruled by Moon. Though Moon

>is the 9th lord (dharma) in the 2nd house (JyotirVidya or astro-learning),

>he is placed in the 8th house from paka lagna. Yoga shows aakasa tattva,

>i.e. the binding force that brings people together. Yoga lord's bad

>placement from lagna lord does not show any important coming together as a

>result of this communication.

>

>Karana is Balava and lord is Moon again. For coming together, we saw the

>lagna lord. For accomplishments, let us see the 2nd and 5th houses as these

>are important for this communication. Moon is in 2nd and in a quadrant from

>2nd and 5th lord Jupiter in Pisces. Thus, if this communication had led to

>a relationship, the relationship would've been fruitful for astrology. Now,

>you can see why you cannot make a prediction just on the basis of karana or

>just on the basis of tithi. In this case, yoga lord is ill-placed from

>lagna lord showing that this interaction may not result in any important

>relationship. Thus, any predictions made just on the basis of karana will

>go wrong.

>

>Nakshatra is Moola, ruled by the demon Nirriti. Nakshatra shows the airy

>element and shows the karma behind something and distractions etc.

>Nakshatra ruled by nirriti shows bad karma. Sri K.N. Rao may be a great

>astrologer and several people may have benefitted from his association, but

>I was not meant to work with him. I was meant to work with Pt. Sanjay Rath.

>The short-lived interaction with Sri K.N. Rao was due to some bad karma by

>me in the past (as shown by Nirriti).

>

>Finally, look at vaara (weekday), which shows the fire element, to see the

>vitality and longevity. Weekday is Wednesday here. While yoga (coming

>together) was analyzed w.r.t. the paka lagna, longevity is to be analyzed

>w.r.t. lagna only. Mercury is the 8th lord in 7th and a clear maraka

>(killer). As he governs the weekday here, it shows that the interaction

>will be very short-lived. Indeed my interaction with Sri K.N. Rao was

>short-lived.

>

>Example 2: My first email to Pt. Sanjay Rath

>

> November 27, 1997

>Time: 1:47:00

>Time Zone: 5:00:00 (West of GMT)

>Longitude: 71 W 12' 00"

>Latitude: 42 N 30' 00"

>Altitude: 0.84 meters

>

>Lunar Year: Isvara

>Lunar Month: Karthika

>Tithi: Krishna Trayodasi (70.73% left)

>Weekday: Wednesday

>Nakshatra: Swat (84.39% left)

>Yoga: Soubhagya

>Karana: Garija

>

>+--------------+

>|SaR | | |HL |

>| | | | |

>| | | | |

>| | | | |

>| | | | |

>|-----------+-----------------------+-----------|

>|Ke | | |

>| | | |

>| | | |

>| | | |

>| | | |

>|-----------| Rasi |-----------|

>|Ju | |Ra |

>| | | |

>| | | |

>| | | |

>| | | |

>|-----------+-----------------------+-----------|

>|Ma Me |Su |Mo GL |As Gk |

>|Ve AL | |Md | |

>| | | | |

>| | | | |

>| | | | |

>+--------------+

>

> Rasi

>+--------------+

>| \ GL Md / \ / |

>| \ Mo / \ Ra / |

>| \ / \ / |

>| \ / Gk \ / |

>| \ / \ / |

>|Su x As x |

>| / \ / \ |

>| / \ / \ |

>| / \ / \ |

>| / Me \ 6 / \ |

>| / \ / \ |

>| AL Ma x HL |

>| \ / \ / |

>| \ Ve / \ / |

>| \ / \ / |

>| \ / \ / |

>| \ / \ / |

>|Ju x SaR x |

>| / \ / \ |

>| / \ / \ |

>| / \ / \ |

>| / Ke \ / \ |

>| / \ / \ |

>+--------------+

>

>+--------------+

>| \ | | / |

>| \ | | / |

>| \ | | / |

>| HL \ | | SaR / Ke |

>| \ | | / |

>| \ | | / |

>| \ | | / |

>|---------------+---------------+---------------|

>| | | |

>| | | Ju |

>| | | |

>| | Rasi | |

>| | | |

>| | | |

>| | | |

>|---------------+---------------+---------------|

>| / | | \ AL |

>| / | Mo GL | \ Ve Me |

>| / | Md | \ |

>| Ra / As | | Su \ Ma |

>| / | | \ |

>| / Gk | | \ |

>| / | | \ |

>+---------------+---------------+---------------+

>

>One analyzing these charts superficially may notice that the first chart

>has Jupiter in Pisces in the 5th house and the second chart has debilitated

>Jupiter is in the 5th house and conclude that the first chart is stronger.

>However, let us do a thorough analysis using the five panchanga elements.

>

>You can see that the yoga is Soubhagya (great fortune). Its ruler Venus is

>in the 4th house in great digbala (towards moksha). Lagna lord Mercury

>joins him! Thus, the yoga lord is well-placed from lagna lord and 9th lord.

>In the previous example, yoga lord was well-placed from 9th lord but not

>from lagna lord. The potential for a good relationship existed only in one

>direction. In this case, yoga lord is well-placed from lagna lord (me) as

>well as the 9th lord (Pt. Rath). Thus this interaction can lead to a good

>relationship. Aakasa tattva is quite strong. [Note: Those of you who know

>how to analyze the weaknesses in various tattvas using D-30 can check out

>the D-30 of both charts. In the first example, D-30 shows affliction of

>aakasa tattva (binding force) by Rahu and Ketu. In the current example, the

>signs ruled by Jupiter (aakasa tattva) in D-30 are empty and thus aakasa

>tattva is free from affliction. The 10 signs used in D-30 show the 5

>elements in pairs by rulership. Aakasa tattva is represented by Sg and Pi

>ruled by Jupiter. In D-30, they are afflicted by nodes in the first example

>and empty in the second example.]

>

>Tithi is Krishna Trayodasi (K13) and karana is Garija. Both are ruled by

>Jupiter. Jupiter is well-placed in the 5th house of scholarship and fame

>and in the 2nd house of resources/food from paka lagna. Jupiter feeds the

>intelligence (paka lagna) and gives fame. Jupiter is debilitated in rasi,

>but exalted in navamsa (dharma) and hence attains neecha bhanga. He takes

>part in a raja yoga with Saturn (5th and 7th lords having exchange), in

>Saraswati yoga (good for learning) with Mercury and Venus and in

>Gaja-Kesari yoga with Moon. As this Gaja-Kesari yoga is in 2nd and 5th

>houses (2nd, 5th, 8th and 11th houses are important for astrological

>knowledge), it shows fame in astrology.

>

>The above yogas given by Jupiter by themselves do not mean much. When we

>analyze a prasna chart or a muhurta chart or a dasa pravesha chart, it is

>easy to get carried away by nice yogas. What decides if those yogas

>fructify or not is the links with panchanga. Panchanga is a very important

>aspect of astrology!

>

>Here Jupiter owns tithi (watery element - harmony and prosperity) and

>karana (earthy element - accomplishments). Thus this interaction will lead

>to a relationship that will accomplish a lot in the field of astrology. Had

>the tithi and karana belonged to another planet, it would've been a totally

>different situation.

>

>However, for this relationship to live long, the above elements are not

>enough - we need fire. So look at the weekday.

>

>Weekday lord is Mercury again. In the first exmaple, he was the 8th lord in

>7th. Here he is the lagna and 10th lord in 4th. While the interaction of

>the first example was short-lived, this interaction was to be long-lived.

>My relationship with Pt. Rath has only steadily grown since that day. Very

>soon, five years will be completed since the first email. During this time,

>our interaction has been very very fruitful for me and for some other

>people who follow my writings.

>

>* * *

>

>Though it is accepted by almost everyone that the five elements of

>panchanga are very important, the exact principles governing their use have

>been lost. There is a lot of confusion in this regard and people use them

>in a mixed up way. Is the result of a bad karana and a bad yoga the same?

>Is the result of a bad weekday and a bad tithi the same? Definitely not,

>though some people use all these elements interchangably. I am trying to

>throw light on these differences, as taught in our tradition.

>

>When you analyze a muhurta chart or a prasna chart or a dasa pravesha

>chart, keep these things in mind don't get carried away by nice yogas. Use

>the five elements of panchanga to get a clear picture. Understand the

>meaning of each element and use accordingly!

>

>May Jupiter's light shine on us,

>PVR

>

 

 

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[Guest guest]

Dear Sarajit,

 

I was travelling on office work for the last 2 weeks and saw your

mail only today.

 

> Aum Namah Sivaya,

> Dear Narasimha,

>

> Excellent analysis based on the pancha tattva and their association

with the

> Pancha Angas. However I have a few thoughts in my mind. Please

clarify if my

> thinking is correct.

>

> 1. The Karana is of earthy element and rules the overall success

failure of

> the endeavours. Movable Karanas (excluding Vishti Karana) are

auspicious for

> all endeavours whereas the Fixed ones are inauspicious. However,

from your

> mail, I can conclude that the decision regarding sucess and failure

can't be

> taken only on the basis of the auspiciousness/ inauspiciousness of

the

> karana. We need to go to the placement of the karana lords. For the

movable

> karana, which is generally bad, things can turn bad, if the lord is

ill

> placed and Vice versa.

 

Absolutely. An analogy is the inherent nature vs functional nature of

planets. Some beginners in Vedic astrology may simply go by the

inherent nature of planets and always consider Jupiter dasa to be

good and Saturn dasa to be bad. However, we know that the functional

nature of a planet depends on lagna and planetary placements and

Jupiter dasa can be bad and Saturn dasa can be good. Similarly, some

tithis, yogas, varas and karanas are considered to be good and bad.

This classification shows only the inherent nature. The functional

nature is to be seen from the placement of the lord (as I showed in

my examples).

 

Even as people talk about "modernizing" Vedic astrology (which is

valid from the point of view of interpreting for the desa-kala-

patra), the fact remains that Vedic astrology is an ocean and most

people today know only bits and pieces. Even those who pretend to be

well-read know only very little. The basic thread joining all the

beads was lost in time and various beads are hidden in various

paramparas. The real knowledge is still kept secretive in several

paramparas (traditions). It is a highly sophisticated and deep

subject, but used in a very simplistic way. As per Sri Achyuta Dasa's

predictions, there will be a renaissance in Vedic knowledge in the

next few centuries. Several nuances, secrets and finer principles

will come out into open one after the other and things will fall in

place. The next 60 years will see tremendous progress in the revival

of genuine Jyotish. The use of panchanga in prasna/muhurta/dasa

pravesha charts is only one example.

 

> 2. The Nakshatra, you said is ruled by the Airy element. This

element is

> ruled by Saturn. I hope that is why you say that this shows the

Karma.

 

Yes. Jupiter rules ether and that is why ether (yoga) shows the

binding energy. Venus rules water and that is why water (tithi) shows

harmony and prosperity. Mercury rules earth and that is why earth

(karana) shows accomplishments. Mars rules fire and that is why fire

(weekday) shows vitality and longevity. Saturn rules air and that is

why air (nakshatra) shows past karma and distractions.

 

> Saturn is one of the karaka for 10th showing hard work. So the work

involved

> in the association or other muhurtha can be predicted based on tha

nakshatra

> lord (not the vimshottari lord). However I think that the navatara

chakra

> can be used in muhurthas to check out, how good it this for the

native,

> probably for the karma part. Please let me know your thinking on

this.

>

> Regds

> Sarajit

 

May Jupiter's light shine on us,

PVR

[Guest guest]

Aum Gurave Namah,

Dear Narasimha,

 

Never mind, I was waiting for the reply. I can understand what's the

significance of the natural and functional nature of the entities in

astrology and how Important they are in judging the real strength.

However, I always had an idea that the inherent nature of the

panchanga elements matter and lot and many of the muhurthas are fixed

on that only. However, in the dasa pravesh chart/ query chart/

muhurtha chart, I can understand the lord of the panchanga elements

are the key players and shall say much more on the happenings than

just a general trend. It would be worthwhile to note that about the

karanas, as I understood from Gurudev, is that the movable karanas

are generally good, unless it proves to be bad and vice-versa.

 

I also wanted to know ur vies on the use of navatara chakra on the

muhurtha or dasa pravesh chakra. If we take the examples u have

cited, in the first chart, Moola was risin. Although this nakshatra

is bad, being lorded by Nirritti, it is beneficially disposed from ur

Janma nakshatra and is the kshema nakshatra. This shows that

eventhough the association was short lived (Fire element) and the

association was not that strong (Ether), the whole period of

association was more or less good as shown by the kshema nakshatra.

Similarly, in the 2nd case the nakshatra is a parama mitra one, which

shows that you will have a great time while in association with

Sanjayji. So although the sucess or failure or accomplishments can be

judged from the Karana, the nakshatras can be used for finding out

the "overall experiences" in this period.

 

I would appreciate ur thoughts on this.

 

Rgds

Sarajit

 

 

 

 

 

vedic astrology, "pvr108" <pvr@c...> wrote:

> Dear Sarajit,

>

> I was travelling on office work for the last 2 weeks and saw your

> mail only today.

>

> > Aum Namah Sivaya,

> > Dear Narasimha,

> >

> > Excellent analysis based on the pancha tattva and their

association

> with the

> > Pancha Angas. However I have a few thoughts in my mind. Please

> clarify if my

> > thinking is correct.

> >

> > 1. The Karana is of earthy element and rules the overall success

> failure of

> > the endeavours. Movable Karanas (excluding Vishti Karana) are

> auspicious for

> > all endeavours whereas the Fixed ones are inauspicious. However,

> from your

> > mail, I can conclude that the decision regarding sucess and

failure

> can't be

> > taken only on the basis of the auspiciousness/ inauspiciousness

of

> the

> > karana. We need to go to the placement of the karana lords. For

the

> movable

> > karana, which is generally bad, things can turn bad, if the lord

is

> ill

> > placed and Vice versa.

>

> Absolutely. An analogy is the inherent nature vs functional nature

of

> planets. Some beginners in Vedic astrology may simply go by the

> inherent nature of planets and always consider Jupiter dasa to be

> good and Saturn dasa to be bad. However, we know that the

functional

> nature of a planet depends on lagna and planetary placements and

> Jupiter dasa can be bad and Saturn dasa can be good. Similarly,

some

> tithis, yogas, varas and karanas are considered to be good and bad.

> This classification shows only the inherent nature. The functional

> nature is to be seen from the placement of the lord (as I showed in

> my examples).

>

> Even as people talk about "modernizing" Vedic astrology (which is

> valid from the point of view of interpreting for the desa-kala-

> patra), the fact remains that Vedic astrology is an ocean and most

> people today know only bits and pieces. Even those who pretend to

be

> well-read know only very little. The basic thread joining all the

> beads was lost in time and various beads are hidden in various

> paramparas. The real knowledge is still kept secretive in several

> paramparas (traditions). It is a highly sophisticated and deep

> subject, but used in a very simplistic way. As per Sri Achyuta

Dasa's

> predictions, there will be a renaissance in Vedic knowledge in the

> next few centuries. Several nuances, secrets and finer principles

> will come out into open one after the other and things will fall in

> place. The next 60 years will see tremendous progress in the

revival

> of genuine Jyotish. The use of panchanga in prasna/muhurta/dasa

> pravesha charts is only one example.

>

> > 2. The Nakshatra, you said is ruled by the Airy element. This

> element is

> > ruled by Saturn. I hope that is why you say that this shows the

> Karma.

>

> Yes. Jupiter rules ether and that is why ether (yoga) shows the

> binding energy. Venus rules water and that is why water (tithi)

shows

> harmony and prosperity. Mercury rules earth and that is why earth

> (karana) shows accomplishments. Mars rules fire and that is why

fire

> (weekday) shows vitality and longevity. Saturn rules air and that

is

> why air (nakshatra) shows past karma and distractions.

>

> > Saturn is one of the karaka for 10th showing hard work. So the

work

> involved

> > in the association or other muhurtha can be predicted based on

tha

> nakshatra

> > lord (not the vimshottari lord). However I think that the

navatara

> chakra

> > can be used in muhurthas to check out, how good it this for the

> native,

> > probably for the karma part. Please let me know your thinking on

> this.

> >

> > Regds

> > Sarajit

>

> May Jupiter's light shine on us,

> PVR