Guest guest Posted November 10, 2002 Report Share Posted November 10, 2002 I was fortunate enough to read the book "A Holy Science" by Swami Yukteshwar Giri. (He was the guru of the famous yogi Paramahansa Yogananda, and disciple of Lahiri Mahasaya and Mahavatar Babaji, the immortal Himalayan Siddha/Yogi). He gives a very scientific explanation for calculation of yugas. Swami Yukteshwar dismisses as erraneous, the popular calculation of yugas where we assume that each year of Brahma corresponds to a multiple human solar years. Hence, as per him, the correct period is only 1//360th time of the existing belief about the period of one Yuga. As per his calculations, we are in dwapara yuga (ascending) already for the past few centuries, which explains the scientific advancements of past few centuries. In dwapara yuga, humans are said to understand the physical laws of creation - of the 5 electricities and 5 magnetisims, etc. All the 4 yugas complete a cycle in 12000 yrs and there is an ascending cycle and descending cycle which makes it 24000 yrs for one whole cycle of yugas (ascending and descending). I request Gurus of SJC, especially Pt Rath, PVR and others who has good knowledge of scriptures and an analytical mind to get a copy of the book and investigate it with an open mind. While I can follow the scientific explanation of it, which is straightforward, I am not learned in shastras to know what exactly our shastras say. Here, I must admit that I find the explanation of Swami Yukteshwar very logical. BTW, Yukeshwar was also a learned jyotishi (Yogananda refers to his astrology predictions and pariharas in his classic Autobiography of a Yogi) and had his own ayanamsa. Dr. B.V.Raman's ayanamsa was almost the same as Yukteshwar's ayanamsa. While it is very possible that Swami Yukteshwar's ayanamsa had some inaccuraces, I believe his explanation of yuga calculations deserves an open minded investigation. Sri K.N. Rao did voice his interest in this, but from my understanding from his article, is that he didnt read "The Holy Science", but relied only on "Autobiography of a yogi", which doesnt give any explanation for the yuga calculations. Swami Yukteshwar was a God realized person who could have seen the truth through his yogic/divine powers, which lends credence to his method. For those interested, both the books are available in buy.com and amazon. -Siva. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 11, 2002 Report Share Posted November 11, 2002 Om Jum Sah. Vyam Vyaasadevaaya Namah. Sah Jum Om Dear Siva, This has been discussed on this list 2 times before, and its very clear that the error lies in Yukteshwars definition of 1 day of the Gods. Heres an article for reference. Also check Vishnu Purana. http://.org/lessons/brahmavidya.htm Best wishesVisti---Bhagavad Purana: http://www.srimadbhagavatam.orgBrihat Parasara Hora Shastra: vedic astrologybphs.zipiTRANS 99 Font: http://www.omkarananda-ashram.org/Sanskrit/Itranslt.html - schinnas vedic astrology Monday, November 11, 2002 8:42 AM [vedic astrology] Are our yuga calculations erraneous? I was fortunate enough to read the book "A Holy Science" by Swami Yukteshwar Giri. (He was the guru of the famous yogi Paramahansa Yogananda, and disciple of Lahiri Mahasaya and Mahavatar Babaji, the immortal Himalayan Siddha/Yogi).He gives a very scientific explanation for calculation of yugas. Swami Yukteshwar dismisses as erraneous, the popular calculation of yugas where we assume that each year of Brahma corresponds to a multiple human solar years. Hence, as per him, the correct period is only 1//360th time of the existing belief about the period of one Yuga. As per his calculations, we are in dwapara yuga (ascending) already for the past few centuries, which explains the scientific advancements of past few centuries. In dwapara yuga, humans are said to understand the physical laws of creation - of the 5 electricities and 5 magnetisims, etc. All the 4 yugas complete a cycle in 12000 yrs and there is an ascending cycle and descending cycle which makes it 24000 yrs for one whole cycle of yugas (ascending and descending). I request Gurus of SJC, especially Pt Rath, PVR and others who has good knowledge of scriptures and an analytical mind to get a copy of the book and investigate it with an open mind. While I can follow the scientific explanation of it, which is straightforward, I am not learned in shastras to know what exactly our shastras say. Here, I must admit that I find the explanation of Swami Yukteshwar very logical.BTW, Yukeshwar was also a learned jyotishi (Yogananda refers to his astrology predictions and pariharas in his classic Autobiography of a Yogi) and had his own ayanamsa. Dr. B.V.Raman's ayanamsa was almost the same as Yukteshwar's ayanamsa. While it is very possible that Swami Yukteshwar's ayanamsa had some inaccuraces, I believe his explanation of yuga calculations deserves an open minded investigation. Sri K.N. Rao did voice his interest in this, but from my understanding from his article, is that he didnt read "The Holy Science", but relied only on "Autobiography of a yogi", which doesnt give any explanation for the yuga calculations.Swami Yukteshwar was a God realized person who could have seen the truth through his yogic/divine powers, which lends credence to his method.For those interested, both the books are available in buy.com and amazon.-Siva.Archives: vedic astrologyGroup info: vedic astrology/info.htmlTo UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology-........ May Jupiter's light shine on us ....... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 11, 2002 Report Share Posted November 11, 2002 Dear Siva, just wanted to point out that the ayanamsa that is called Sri Yuktesvar ayanamsa was actually generated by people who read the holy science, and was based on the mean motions which Sri Yuktesvar talks about in the Holy science. It was actually not the ayanamsa that Sri Yuktesvar used himself. Sri Yuktesvar purpose in writing that in the Holy Science was to explain the yugas, not to define a scientifically accurate ayanamsa. A careful study of the Holy Science, however, does reveal how to calculate the ayanamsa accurately. Unfortanetely we still don't have all the points in space figured out to calculate it to 100% accuracy. However, based on what we do have an ayanamsa that is 23 minutes less than Lahiri, which means we add 23 minutes to the position of each planet, is as accurate as I have been able to calculate it. This happens to coincide with the Devvadutta ayanamsa, which I do not know the basis of. I have tested this ayanamsa and found it to be more accurate statistically then Lahiri, as well as in practice, and have used in in Shastiamsa with great results. By the way, Sri Yuktesvar wrote a book on Jyotish that was published around 1935. Jai Ram, Ernst Wilhelm www.vedic astrology.net schinnas [schinnas] Sunday, November 10, 2002 11:42 PM vedic astrology [vedic astrology] Are our yuga calculations erraneous? I was fortunate enough to read the book "A Holy Science" by Swami Yukteshwar Giri. (He was the guru of the famous yogi Paramahansa Yogananda, and disciple of Lahiri Mahasaya and Mahavatar Babaji, the immortal Himalayan Siddha/Yogi). He gives a very scientific explanation for calculation of yugas. Swami Yukteshwar dismisses as erraneous, the popular calculation of yugas where we assume that each year of Brahma corresponds to a multiple human solar years. Hence, as per him, the correct period is only 1//360th time of the existing belief about the period of one Yuga. As per his calculations, we are in dwapara yuga (ascending) already for the past few centuries, which explains the scientific advancements of past few centuries. In dwapara yuga, humans are said to understand the physical laws of creation - of the 5 electricities and 5 magnetisims, etc. All the 4 yugas complete a cycle in 12000 yrs and there is an ascending cycle and descending cycle which makes it 24000 yrs for one whole cycle of yugas (ascending and descending). I request Gurus of SJC, especially Pt Rath, PVR and others who has good knowledge of scriptures and an analytical mind to get a copy of the book and investigate it with an open mind. While I can follow the scientific explanation of it, which is straightforward, I am not learned in shastras to know what exactly our shastras say. Here, I must admit that I find the explanation of Swami Yukteshwar very logical. BTW, Yukeshwar was also a learned jyotishi (Yogananda refers to his astrology predictions and pariharas in his classic Autobiography of a Yogi) and had his own ayanamsa. Dr. B.V.Raman's ayanamsa was almost the same as Yukteshwar's ayanamsa. While it is very possible that Swami Yukteshwar's ayanamsa had some inaccuraces, I believe his explanation of yuga calculations deserves an open minded investigation. Sri K.N. Rao did voice his interest in this, but from my understanding from his article, is that he didnt read "The Holy Science", but relied only on "Autobiography of a yogi", which doesnt give any explanation for the yuga calculations. Swami Yukteshwar was a God realized person who could have seen the truth through his yogic/divine powers, which lends credence to his method. For those interested, both the books are available in buy.com and amazon. -Siva. Your use of is subject to Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 11, 2002 Report Share Posted November 11, 2002 Vyam Vyasa-devaaya Namah, Dear Visti, Thanks for your response. In the article you mentioned, I noticed that what is referred to as DAIVACHAKRA is what Swami Yukteshwar refers to as yuga cycle. Swami Yukteshwar in his book explains how the original meaning was lost and how wrong interpretations by Sankskrit scholars and religious heads continued that error. Since I am not a great sankskrit scholar with original untained manuscripts of scriptures, I am unable to do my own research. Moreover I think the symbolisms of puranas shouldnt be taken literally, which might give rise to wrong interpretations. Reading the Bhagavat Gita translation by Paramahansa Yogananda gave me a whole new understanding of symbolisms used in scriptures. Many people associate some unthinkable results to Kali yuga because of misunderstanding symbolisms in scriptures. I am inclined to follow Swami Yukteshwars yuga calculations as they seem logical. -Siva. vedic astrology, "Visti Larsen" <vishnu@l...> wrote: > Om Jum Sah. Vyam Vyaasadevaaya Namah. Sah Jum Om > > - ------------- > > Dear Siva, > This has been discussed on this list 2 times before, and its very clear that the error lies in Yukteshwars definition of 1 day of the Gods. > Heres an article for reference. Also check Vishnu Purana. > http://.org/lessons/brahmavidya.htm > Best wishes > Visti > --- > Bhagavad Purana: http://www.srimadbhagavatam.org > Brihat Parasara Hora Shastra: vedic- astrologybphs.zip > iTRANS 99 Font: http://www.omkarananda- ashram.org/Sanskrit/Itranslt.html > - > schinnas > vedic astrology > Monday, November 11, 2002 8:42 AM > [vedic astrology] Are our yuga calculations erraneous? > > > I was fortunate enough to read the book "A Holy Science" by Swami > Yukteshwar Giri. (He was the guru of the famous yogi Paramahansa > Yogananda, and disciple of Lahiri Mahasaya and Mahavatar Babaji, the > immortal Himalayan Siddha/Yogi). > > He gives a very scientific explanation for calculation of yugas. > Swami Yukteshwar dismisses as erraneous, the popular calculation of > yugas where we assume that each year of Brahma corresponds to a > multiple human solar years. Hence, as per him, the correct period is > only 1//360th time of the existing belief about the period of one > Yuga. As per his calculations, we are in dwapara yuga (ascending) > already for the past few centuries, which explains the scientific > advancements of past few centuries. In dwapara yuga, humans are said > to understand the physical laws of creation - of the 5 electricities > and 5 magnetisims, etc. All the 4 yugas complete a cycle in 12000 yrs > and there is an ascending cycle and descending cycle which makes it > 24000 yrs for one whole cycle of yugas (ascending and descending). > > I request Gurus of SJC, especially Pt Rath, PVR and others who has > good knowledge of scriptures and an analytical mind to get a copy of > the book and investigate it with an open mind. While I can follow the > scientific explanation of it, which is straightforward, I am not > learned in shastras to know what exactly our shastras say. Here, I > must admit that I find the explanation of Swami Yukteshwar very > logical. > > BTW, Yukeshwar was also a learned jyotishi (Yogananda refers to his > astrology predictions and pariharas in his classic Autobiography of a > Yogi) and had his own ayanamsa. Dr. B.V.Raman's ayanamsa was almost > the same as Yukteshwar's ayanamsa. While it is very possible that > Swami Yukteshwar's ayanamsa had some inaccuraces, I believe his > explanation of yuga calculations deserves an open minded > investigation. > > Sri K.N. Rao did voice his interest in this, but from my > understanding from his article, is that he didnt read "The Holy > Science", but relied only on "Autobiography of a yogi", which doesnt > give any explanation for the yuga calculations. > > Swami Yukteshwar was a God realized person who could have seen the > truth through his yogic/divine powers, which lends credence to his > method. > > For those interested, both the books are available in buy.com and > amazon. > > -Siva. > > > > > > Group info: vedic- astrology/info.html > > To UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology-@e... > > > > > > Terms of Service. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 11, 2002 Report Share Posted November 11, 2002 Vyam Vyasa-devaaya Namah, Dear Ernst, Thanks for the correction. I have often thought that most of the current birth time rectifications are actually done to accomodate for inaccuracies in ayanamsa! I am yet a very pathetic beginner in jyotish and cannot as such verify with confidence the accuracies of different ayanamsas, but hope in due course I will be able to. Will try to re-read his book to get to know how to compute the ayanamsa correctly. I can sense that Yukteshwar has given some subtle hints on physics and science as well in his book. Hope some scientist is able to fully understand those clues and result in another great scientifc revolution. I -Siva. vedic astrology, "Ernst Wilhelm" <ernst@v...> wrote: > Dear Siva, > just wanted to point out that the ayanamsa that is called Sri > Yuktesvar ayanamsa was actually generated by people who read the holy > science, and was based on the mean motions which Sri Yuktesvar talks > about in the Holy science. It was actually not the ayanamsa that Sri > Yuktesvar used himself. Sri Yuktesvar purpose in writing that in the > Holy Science was to explain the yugas, not to define a scientifically > accurate ayanamsa. A careful study of the Holy Science, however, does > reveal how to calculate the ayanamsa accurately. Unfortanetely we still > don't have all the points in space figured out to calculate it to 100% > accuracy. However, based on what we do have an ayanamsa that is 23 > minutes less than Lahiri, which means we add 23 minutes to the position > of each planet, is as accurate as I have been able to calculate it. This > happens to coincide with the Devvadutta ayanamsa, which I do not know > the basis of. I have tested this ayanamsa and found it to be more > accurate statistically then Lahiri, as well as in practice, and have > used in in Shastiamsa with great results. > > By the way, Sri Yuktesvar wrote a book on Jyotish that was published > around 1935. > > Jai Ram, > Ernst Wilhelm > > www.vedic astrology.net > > > > schinnas [schinnas] > Sunday, November 10, 2002 11:42 PM > vedic astrology > [vedic astrology] Are our yuga calculations erraneous? > > > I was fortunate enough to read the book "A Holy Science" by Swami > Yukteshwar Giri. (He was the guru of the famous yogi Paramahansa > Yogananda, and disciple of Lahiri Mahasaya and Mahavatar Babaji, the > immortal Himalayan Siddha/Yogi). > > He gives a very scientific explanation for calculation of yugas. > Swami Yukteshwar dismisses as erraneous, the popular calculation of > yugas where we assume that each year of Brahma corresponds to a > multiple human solar years. Hence, as per him, the correct period is > only 1//360th time of the existing belief about the period of one > Yuga. As per his calculations, we are in dwapara yuga (ascending) > already for the past few centuries, which explains the scientific > advancements of past few centuries. In dwapara yuga, humans are said > to understand the physical laws of creation - of the 5 electricities > and 5 magnetisims, etc. All the 4 yugas complete a cycle in 12000 yrs > and there is an ascending cycle and descending cycle which makes it > 24000 yrs for one whole cycle of yugas (ascending and descending). > > I request Gurus of SJC, especially Pt Rath, PVR and others who has > good knowledge of scriptures and an analytical mind to get a copy of > the book and investigate it with an open mind. While I can follow the > scientific explanation of it, which is straightforward, I am not > learned in shastras to know what exactly our shastras say. Here, I > must admit that I find the explanation of Swami Yukteshwar very > logical. > > BTW, Yukeshwar was also a learned jyotishi (Yogananda refers to his > astrology predictions and pariharas in his classic Autobiography of a > Yogi) and had his own ayanamsa. Dr. B.V.Raman's ayanamsa was almost > the same as Yukteshwar's ayanamsa. While it is very possible that > Swami Yukteshwar's ayanamsa had some inaccuraces, I believe his > explanation of yuga calculations deserves an open minded > investigation. > > Sri K.N. Rao did voice his interest in this, but from my > understanding from his article, is that he didnt read "The Holy > Science", but relied only on "Autobiography of a yogi", which doesnt > give any explanation for the yuga calculations. > > Swami Yukteshwar was a God realized person who could have seen the > truth through his yogic/divine powers, which lends credence to his > method. > > For those interested, both the books are available in buy.com and > amazon. > > -Siva. > > > > > > > > > To UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology-@e... > > ....... May Jupiter's light shine on us ....... > > > > Your use of is subject to > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 11, 2002 Report Share Posted November 11, 2002 Vyam Vyasa-Devaaya Namah, Dear Ernst, I checked DevaDutta ayanamsa. JHlite associates it with Swami Sadasiva Giri. Yukteshwar himself was a swami under Giri monastic branch. (Adi Sankara organized various Hindu monastaries with titles such as giri, saraswati, etc) So I wouldnt be surprised if Sadasiva Giri is a (in)direct student of Yukeshwar or they both had the same guru - Lahiri Mahasaya. That may explain why their ayanamsas are the same. BTW, can you tell me the name of the book Yukteshwar wrote and where to obtain it? I believe he might have written it in Bengali. If there is no english translation of it, I will be very disappointed! Thanks, -Siva. vedic astrology, "Ernst Wilhelm" <ernst@v...> wrote: > Dear Siva, > just wanted to point out that the ayanamsa that is called Sri > Yuktesvar ayanamsa was actually generated by people who read the holy > science, and was based on the mean motions which Sri Yuktesvar talks > about in the Holy science. It was actually not the ayanamsa that Sri > Yuktesvar used himself. Sri Yuktesvar purpose in writing that in the > Holy Science was to explain the yugas, not to define a scientifically > accurate ayanamsa. A careful study of the Holy Science, however, does > reveal how to calculate the ayanamsa accurately. Unfortanetely we still > don't have all the points in space figured out to calculate it to 100% > accuracy. However, based on what we do have an ayanamsa that is 23 > minutes less than Lahiri, which means we add 23 minutes to the position > of each planet, is as accurate as I have been able to calculate it. This > happens to coincide with the Devvadutta ayanamsa, which I do not know > the basis of. I have tested this ayanamsa and found it to be more > accurate statistically then Lahiri, as well as in practice, and have > used in in Shastiamsa with great results. > > By the way, Sri Yuktesvar wrote a book on Jyotish that was published > around 1935. > > Jai Ram, > Ernst Wilhelm > > www.vedic astrology.net Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 12, 2002 Report Share Posted November 12, 2002 Dear Siva, yes, it is interesting that they come from the Giri order. No one knows the name of the book, I have asked SRF monks on the board that I know and they themselves do not know the tittle, but they say it does it exist. My guess is that it is in Sanskrit. The Holy Science was also written in Sanskrit. I have some people looking for it, and with luck will pick it up next year, and will then begin translating it. I have some good leads to follow up when I go there to visit my family next year Jai Ram, Ernst Wilhelm www.vedic astrology.net Kaala Vedic Astrology Software and Publications schinnas [schinnas] Monday, November 11, 2002 10:51 PM vedic astrology [vedic astrology] Re: Are our yuga calculations erraneous? Vyam Vyasa-Devaaya Namah, Dear Ernst, I checked DevaDutta ayanamsa. JHlite associates it with Swami Sadasiva Giri. Yukteshwar himself was a swami under Giri monastic branch. (Adi Sankara organized various Hindu monastaries with titles such as giri, saraswati, etc) So I wouldnt be surprised if Sadasiva Giri is a (in)direct student of Yukeshwar or they both had the same guru - Lahiri Mahasaya. That may explain why their ayanamsas are the same. BTW, can you tell me the name of the book Yukteshwar wrote and where to obtain it? I believe he might have written it in Bengali. If there is no english translation of it, I will be very disappointed! Thanks, -Siva. vedic astrology, "Ernst Wilhelm" <ernst@v...> wrote: > Dear Siva, > just wanted to point out that the ayanamsa that is called Sri > Yuktesvar ayanamsa was actually generated by people who read the holy > science, and was based on the mean motions which Sri Yuktesvar talks > about in the Holy science. It was actually not the ayanamsa that Sri > Yuktesvar used himself. Sri Yuktesvar purpose in writing that in the > Holy Science was to explain the yugas, not to define a scientifically > accurate ayanamsa. A careful study of the Holy Science, however, does > reveal how to calculate the ayanamsa accurately. Unfortanetely we still > don't have all the points in space figured out to calculate it to 100% > accuracy. However, based on what we do have an ayanamsa that is 23 > minutes less than Lahiri, which means we add 23 minutes to the position > of each planet, is as accurate as I have been able to calculate it. This > happens to coincide with the Devvadutta ayanamsa, which I do not know > the basis of. I have tested this ayanamsa and found it to be more > accurate statistically then Lahiri, as well as in practice, and have > used in in Shastiamsa with great results. > > By the way, Sri Yuktesvar wrote a book on Jyotish that was published > around 1935. > > Jai Ram, > Ernst Wilhelm > > www.vedic astrology.net Your use of is subject to Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 12, 2002 Report Share Posted November 12, 2002 Dear Ernst, I fully hope and pray that you get a copy of the original and publish an English translation. If the style of Kaivalya Darshanam (the sankskrit original of Holy Science) is any indication, his jyotish book will be abstract and/or may discuss mostly with spiritual astrology with subtle hints about material use of it. Any translation may need a good amount of commentary for readers to follow it. If swami Yukteshwar intended it for public consumption, the book might be in Bengali. Do let this list know if you get hold of a copy. Thanks, -Siva. vedic astrology, "Ernst Wilhelm" <ernst@v...> wrote: > Dear Siva, > yes, it is interesting that they come from the Giri order. No one > knows the name of the book, I have asked SRF monks on the board that I > know and they themselves do not know the tittle, but they say it does it > exist. My guess is that it is in Sanskrit. The Holy Science was also > written in Sanskrit. I have some people looking for it, and with luck > will pick it up next year, and will then begin translating it. I have > some good leads to follow up when I go there to visit my family next > year > > Jai Ram, > Ernst Wilhelm > www.vedic astrology.net > Kaala Vedic Astrology Software and Publications > > > > schinnas [schinnas] > Monday, November 11, 2002 10:51 PM > vedic astrology > [vedic astrology] Re: Are our yuga calculations erraneous? > > > Vyam Vyasa-Devaaya Namah, > > Dear Ernst, > I checked DevaDutta ayanamsa. JHlite associates it with Swami > Sadasiva Giri. Yukteshwar himself was a swami under Giri monastic > branch. (Adi Sankara organized various Hindu monastaries with titles > such as giri, saraswati, etc) So I wouldnt be surprised if Sadasiva > Giri is a (in)direct student of Yukeshwar or they both had the same > guru - Lahiri Mahasaya. That may explain why their ayanamsas are the > same. > > BTW, can you tell me the name of the book Yukteshwar wrote and where > to obtain it? I believe he might have written it in Bengali. If > there is no english translation of it, I will be very disappointed! > > Thanks, > -Siva. > > > vedic astrology, "Ernst Wilhelm" <ernst@v...> wrote: > > Dear Siva, > > just wanted to point out that the ayanamsa that is called Sri > > Yuktesvar ayanamsa was actually generated by people who read the > holy > > science, and was based on the mean motions which Sri Yuktesvar > talks > > about in the Holy science. It was actually not the ayanamsa that > Sri > > Yuktesvar used himself. Sri Yuktesvar purpose in writing that in > the > > Holy Science was to explain the yugas, not to define a > scientifically > > accurate ayanamsa. A careful study of the Holy Science, however, > does > > reveal how to calculate the ayanamsa accurately. Unfortanetely we > still > > don't have all the points in space figured out to calculate it to > 100% > > accuracy. However, based on what we do have an ayanamsa that is 23 > > minutes less than Lahiri, which means we add 23 minutes to the > position > > of each planet, is as accurate as I have been able to calculate > it. This > > happens to coincide with the Devvadutta ayanamsa, which I do not > know > > the basis of. I have tested this ayanamsa and found it to be more > > accurate statistically then Lahiri, as well as in practice, and > have > > used in in Shastiamsa with great results. > > > > By the way, Sri Yuktesvar wrote a book on Jyotish that was > published > > around 1935. > > > > Jai Ram, > > Ernst Wilhelm > > > > www.vedic astrology.net > > > > > > > > To UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology-@e... > > ....... May Jupiter's light shine on us ....... > > > > Your use of is subject to > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 12, 2002 Report Share Posted November 12, 2002 Dear members, The Best way is to check the variations of earth axis vector by considering first-order(secular) perturbations--relativistic corrections, rather than generalising and misusing notions. For example: Quinn, Thomas R.; Tremaine, Scott; Duncan, Martin - A three million year integration of the earth's orbit Astronomical Journal , vol. 101, June 1991, p. 2287-2305 - would give the movement of earth axis vector in last 3 million years with less precesion. Want greater precision?--use some high order predictor-corrector methods along with huge computing power. Regards, VR vedic astrology, "schinnas" <schinnas> wrote: > Vyam Vyasa-Devaaya Namah, > > Dear Ernst, > I checked DevaDutta ayanamsa. JHlite associates it with Swami > Sadasiva Giri. Yukteshwar himself was a swami under Giri monastic > branch. (Adi Sankara organized various Hindu monastaries with titles > such as giri, saraswati, etc) So I wouldnt be surprised if Sadasiva > Giri is a (in)direct student of Yukeshwar or they both had the same > guru - Lahiri Mahasaya. That may explain why their ayanamsas are the > same. > > BTW, can you tell me the name of the book Yukteshwar wrote and where > to obtain it? I believe he might have written it in Bengali. If > there is no english translation of it, I will be very disappointed! > > Thanks, > -Siva. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 12, 2002 Report Share Posted November 12, 2002 vedic astrology, "Ernst Wilhelm" <ernst@v...> wrote: > Sri K.N. Rao did voice his interest in this, but from my > understanding from his article, is that he didnt read "The Holy > Science", but relied only on "Autobiography of a yogi", which > doesnt give any explanation for the yuga calculations. Well, No need to blame KN Rao on this aspect-whether he read Holy Science or not. The crux of it lies in "Autobiography of a yogi" too. Rgds, VR > Swami Yukteshwar was a God realized person who could have seen the > truth through his yogic/divine powers, which lends credence to his > method. > > For those interested, both the books are available in buy.com and > amazon. > > -Siva. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 12, 2002 Report Share Posted November 12, 2002 Dear Siva, I certainly will let you know. I think it will be in Sanskrit, The Holy Science was meant to help easterners and westerners understand the unity of world religions, and yet he still wrote in in Sanskrit, though most westerners, and most Indians as well, would not be able to read it. Jai Ram, Ernst Wilhelm schinnas [schinnas] Tuesday, November 12, 2002 8:40 AM vedic astrology [vedic astrology] Re: Are our yuga calculations erraneous? Dear Ernst, I fully hope and pray that you get a copy of the original and publish an English translation. If the style of Kaivalya Darshanam (the sankskrit original of Holy Science) is any indication, his jyotish book will be abstract and/or may discuss mostly with spiritual astrology with subtle hints about material use of it. Any translation may need a good amount of commentary for readers to follow it. If swami Yukteshwar intended it for public consumption, the book might be in Bengali. Do let this list know if you get hold of a copy. Thanks, -Siva. vedic astrology, "Ernst Wilhelm" <ernst@v...> wrote: > Dear Siva, > yes, it is interesting that they come from the Giri order. No one > knows the name of the book, I have asked SRF monks on the board that I > know and they themselves do not know the tittle, but they say it does it > exist. My guess is that it is in Sanskrit. The Holy Science was also > written in Sanskrit. I have some people looking for it, and with luck > will pick it up next year, and will then begin translating it. I have > some good leads to follow up when I go there to visit my family next > year > > Jai Ram, > Ernst Wilhelm > www.vedic astrology.net > Kaala Vedic Astrology Software and Publications > > > > schinnas [schinnas] > Monday, November 11, 2002 10:51 PM > vedic astrology > [vedic astrology] Re: Are our yuga calculations erraneous? > > > Vyam Vyasa-Devaaya Namah, > > Dear Ernst, > I checked DevaDutta ayanamsa. JHlite associates it with Swami > Sadasiva Giri. Yukteshwar himself was a swami under Giri monastic > branch. (Adi Sankara organized various Hindu monastaries with titles > such as giri, saraswati, etc) So I wouldnt be surprised if Sadasiva > Giri is a (in)direct student of Yukeshwar or they both had the same > guru - Lahiri Mahasaya. That may explain why their ayanamsas are the > same. > > BTW, can you tell me the name of the book Yukteshwar wrote and where > to obtain it? I believe he might have written it in Bengali. If > there is no english translation of it, I will be very disappointed! > > Thanks, > -Siva. > > > vedic astrology, "Ernst Wilhelm" <ernst@v...> wrote: > > Dear Siva, > > just wanted to point out that the ayanamsa that is called Sri > > Yuktesvar ayanamsa was actually generated by people who read the > holy > > science, and was based on the mean motions which Sri Yuktesvar > talks > > about in the Holy science. It was actually not the ayanamsa that > Sri > > Yuktesvar used himself. Sri Yuktesvar purpose in writing that in > the > > Holy Science was to explain the yugas, not to define a > scientifically > > accurate ayanamsa. A careful study of the Holy Science, however, > does > > reveal how to calculate the ayanamsa accurately. Unfortanetely we > still > > don't have all the points in space figured out to calculate it to > 100% > > accuracy. However, based on what we do have an ayanamsa that is 23 > > minutes less than Lahiri, which means we add 23 minutes to the > position > > of each planet, is as accurate as I have been able to calculate > it. This > > happens to coincide with the Devvadutta ayanamsa, which I do not > know > > the basis of. I have tested this ayanamsa and found it to be more > > accurate statistically then Lahiri, as well as in practice, and > have > > used in in Shastiamsa with great results. > > > > By the way, Sri Yuktesvar wrote a book on Jyotish that was > published > > around 1935. > > > > Jai Ram, > > Ernst Wilhelm > > > > www.vedic astrology.net > > > > > > > > To UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology-@e... > > ....... May Jupiter's light shine on us ....... > > > > Your use of is subject to > Your use of is subject to Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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