Guest guest Posted November 9, 2002 Report Share Posted November 9, 2002 Om Jum Sah. Vyam Vyaasadevaaya Namah. Sah Jum Om Dear Lakshmi, Now we must act like vyasa and divide and arrange. Balaadhi Avasthas show how soon the results come of a planet. i.e. planets in mrita avastha give results of a natives effort at the dire end, when the native throught that the results would never come. Similarly reckon the other balaadhi avasthas. Also understand that the other avasthas and balas shows something different. We must divide very discriminately. As for your Gandanta position, we must remember the exception given by Parasara in the begining chapters: "eka eva jeeve lagnasthe risthasamchayam hanti paapaksayam bhaktyam pranaama iva shuulinah" Chapter 10 - Sloka 3 of Santhanam edition. Best wishesVisti---Bhagavad Purana: http://www.srimadbhagavatam.orgBrihat Parasara Hora Shastra: vedic astrologybphs.zipiTRANS 99 Font: http://www.omkarananda-ashram.org/Sanskrit/Itranslt.html - b_lakshmi_ramesh vedic astrology Saturday, November 09, 2002 6:53 AM [vedic astrology] Avasthas - To Visti Om Gurave NamahNamaste Visti,According to Parasara, baalaavastha ( 1/4th results) has been defined as 0-6 degrees in odd signs and 24-30 degrees in even signs. 0-6degrees in even signs has been defined as mritavastha, where a planet will give only nil results. According to this, Mars at 28degrees Capricorn, Venus at 27degrees Pisces, Moon at 3degrees Taurus and Jupiter at 5degrees Cancer, all at their deep exaltation points, will give only minimal results. Can it happen? I feel that there's some hidden logic here, which perhaps we are unable to comprehend fully and apply properly?I agree that gandanta positions are deadly junctions, akin to pralaya. Still there are survivors… Regards,LakshmiArchives: vedic astrologyGroup info: vedic astrology/info.htmlTo UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology-........ May Jupiter's light shine on us ....... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 10, 2002 Report Share Posted November 10, 2002 Om Namo Narayanaya, Dear Visti, Do you infer that the Baal avasta would give the results fast? Parashara is clear that Yuv avasta is the best. In my opinion, mrita avasta would collapse the graha, particularly its living things. In my own chart, shukra is in mrita avasta and my elder sister almost got killed in an accident (15 days comma) and both my aunts didn't survive. Note that Shukra rules 11th house(elder siblings) and 6th house (maternal aunts). Yet due to Shukra exaltation sister survived( marana karaka shukra counted from 11th house) and exaltation of Shukra who knows immortality-indeed a saving inspite of impossible odds. I think that Baal adhi avastas should be treated differently. In any case, do elaborate what you thought.. I am very curious Thanks Zoran Visti Larsen wrote: Om Jum Sah. Vyam Vyaasadevaaya Namah. Sah Jum Om Dear Lakshmi,Now we must act like vyasa and divide and arrange. Balaadhi Avasthas show how soon the results come of a planet. i.e. planets in mrita avastha give results of a natives effort at the dire end, when the native throught that the results would never come. Similarly reckon the other balaadhi avasthas. Also understand that the other avasthas and balas shows something different. We must divide very discriminately. As for your Gandanta position, we must remember the exception given by Parasara in the begining chapters:"eka eva jeeve lagnasthe risthasamchayamhanti paapaksayam bhaktyam pranaama iva shuulinah" Chapter 10 - Sloka 3 of Santhanam edition. Best wishes Visti --- Bhagavad Purana: http://www.srimadbhagavatam.org Brihat Parasara Hora Shastra: vedic astrologybphs.zip iTRANS 99 Font: http://www.omkarananda-ashram.org/Sanskrit/Itranslt.html - b_lakshmi_ramesh vedic astrology Saturday, November 09, 2002 6:53 AM [vedic astrology] Avasthas - To Visti Om Gurave Namah Namaste Visti, According to Parasara, baalaavastha ( 1/4th results) has been defined as 0-6 degrees in odd signs and 24-30 degrees in even signs. 0-6degrees in even signs has been defined as mritavastha, where a planet will give only nil results. According to this, Mars at 28degrees Capricorn, Venus at 27degrees Pisces, Moon at 3degrees Taurus and Jupiter at 5degrees Cancer, all at their deep exaltation points, will give only minimal results. Can it happen? I feel that there's some hidden logic here, which perhaps we are unable to comprehend fully and apply properly? I agree that gandanta positions are deadly junctions, akin to pralaya. Still there are survivors… Regards, Lakshmi . || Om Tat Sat || Sarvam Sri Krishnaarpanamastu || Terms of Service. || Om Tat Sat || Sarvam Sri Krishnaarpanamastu || Terms of Service. -- ZORAN RADOSAVLJEVIC Jyotish Teacher of Shree Jagannath Vedic Centre email: ahimsa (AT) NSpoint (DOT) net web: www.sjvc.co.yu Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 11, 2002 Report Share Posted November 11, 2002 Dear Zoran, Visti, Please pardon me if I am intruding.Do the results of planet gives when at a particular position/degrees not depend on the planet itself. For Example Saturn is a "Vriddha Graha" and is strongest in 20 to 20 degrees. Similarly Mars is a "Yuva Graha" and is strong when between 10 to 20 degrees.The distance from the "Lagna Spashta" has also to be taken into consideration. I hope both of you Gurus will certainly pardon me for my intrusion as I am only a learner in Astrology. Chandrashekhar. - Zoran Radosavljevic vedic astrology Monday, November 11, 2002 8:15 AM Re: [vedic astrology] Avasthas - To Visti Om Namo Narayanaya, Dear Visti, Do you infer that the Baal avasta would give the results fast? Parashara is clear that Yuv avasta is the best. In my opinion, mrita avasta would collapse the graha, particularly its living things. In my own chart, shukra is in mrita avasta and my elder sister almost got killed in an accident (15 days comma) and both my aunts didn't survive. Note that Shukra rules 11th house(elder siblings) and 6th house (maternal aunts). Yet due to Shukra exaltation sister survived( marana karaka shukra counted from 11th house) and exaltation of Shukra who knows immortality-indeed a saving inspite of impossible odds. I think that Baal adhi avastas should be treated differently. In any case, do elaborate what you thought.. I am very curious Thanks Zoran Visti Larsen wrote: Om Jum Sah. Vyam Vyaasadevaaya Namah. Sah Jum Om Dear Lakshmi,Now we must act like vyasa and divide and arrange. Balaadhi Avasthas show how soon the results come of a planet. i.e. planets in mrita avastha give results of a natives effort at the dire end, when the native throught that the results would never come. Similarly reckon the other balaadhi avasthas. Also understand that the other avasthas and balas shows something different. We must divide very discriminately. As for your Gandanta position, we must remember the exception given by Parasara in the begining chapters:"eka eva jeeve lagnasthe risthasamchayamhanti paapaksayam bhaktyam pranaama iva shuulinah" Chapter 10 - Sloka 3 of Santhanam edition. Best wishes Visti --- Bhagavad Purana: http://www.srimadbhagavatam.org Brihat Parasara Hora Shastra: vedic astrologybphs.zip iTRANS 99 Font: http://www.omkarananda-ashram.org/Sanskrit/Itranslt.html - b_lakshmi_ramesh vedic astrology Saturday, November 09, 2002 6:53 AM [vedic astrology] Avasthas - To Visti Om Gurave Namah Namaste Visti, According to Parasara, baalaavastha ( 1/4th results) has been defined as 0-6 degrees in odd signs and 24-30 degrees in even signs. 0-6degrees in even signs has been defined as mritavastha, where a planet will give only nil results. According to this, Mars at 28degrees Capricorn, Venus at 27degrees Pisces, Moon at 3degrees Taurus and Jupiter at 5degrees Cancer, all at their deep exaltation points, will give only minimal results. Can it happen? I feel that there's some hidden logic here, which perhaps we are unable to comprehend fully and apply properly? I agree that gandanta positions are deadly junctions, akin to pralaya. Still there are survivors… Regards, Lakshmi Group info: vedic astrology/info.html To UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology- ........ May Jupiter's light shine on us ....... Group info: vedic astrology/info.html To UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology- ....... May Jupiter's light shine on us ....... -- ZORAN RADOSAVLJEVIC Jyotish Teacher of Shree Jagannath Vedic Centre email: ahimsa (AT) NSpoint (DOT) net web: www.sjvc.co.yu Archives: vedic astrologyGroup info: vedic astrology/info.htmlTo UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology-....... May Jupiter's light shine on us ....... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 11, 2002 Report Share Posted November 11, 2002 Om Jum Sah. Vyam Vyaasadevaaya Namah. Sah Jum Om Dear Zoran, I would rather infer that Baal Avastha would give results prematurely, and the results would be useless. Heres an old mail to you from Gurudev about this topic: Jaya Jagannath MahaprabhuDear Zoran,Due to the Mritavastha, the planet will give the results only in the lastminute i.e. after all the means have been tried and the native is on theverge of giving up hopes related to its matters & lordship. As the AK, theAtma Gyana will come at a very late age...and so on. Thus, your analysis ofthe set-back is correct, but collapse may not be so true because of Degreeinstead, the "collapse" can be due to the placement of the planet inSagittarius Navamsa meaning "fall from height" or"collapse".With Regards,Sanjay Rath Best wishesVisti---Bhagavad Purana: http://www.srimadbhagavatam.orgBrihat Parasara Hora Shastra: vedic astrologybphs.zipiTRANS 99 Font: http://www.omkarananda-ashram.org/Sanskrit/Itranslt.html - Zoran Radosavljevic vedic astrology Monday, November 11, 2002 3:45 AM Re: [vedic astrology] Avasthas - To Visti Om Namo Narayanaya, Dear Visti, Do you infer that the Baal avasta would give the results fast? Parashara is clear that Yuv avasta is the best. In my opinion, mrita avasta would collapse the graha, particularly its living things. In my own chart, shukra is in mrita avasta and my elder sister almost got killed in an accident (15 days comma) and both my aunts didn't survive. Note that Shukra rules 11th house(elder siblings) and 6th house (maternal aunts). Yet due to Shukra exaltation sister survived( marana karaka shukra counted from 11th house) and exaltation of Shukra who knows immortality-indeed a saving inspite of impossible odds. I think that Baal adhi avastas should be treated differently. In any case, do elaborate what you thought.. I am very curious Thanks Zoran Visti Larsen wrote: Om Jum Sah. Vyam Vyaasadevaaya Namah. Sah Jum Om Dear Lakshmi,Now we must act like vyasa and divide and arrange. Balaadhi Avasthas show how soon the results come of a planet. i.e. planets in mrita avastha give results of a natives effort at the dire end, when the native throught that the results would never come. Similarly reckon the other balaadhi avasthas. Also understand that the other avasthas and balas shows something different. We must divide very discriminately. As for your Gandanta position, we must remember the exception given by Parasara in the begining chapters:"eka eva jeeve lagnasthe risthasamchayamhanti paapaksayam bhaktyam pranaama iva shuulinah" Chapter 10 - Sloka 3 of Santhanam edition. Best wishes Visti --- Bhagavad Purana: http://www.srimadbhagavatam.org Brihat Parasara Hora Shastra: vedic astrologybphs.zip iTRANS 99 Font: http://www.omkarananda-ashram.org/Sanskrit/Itranslt.html - b_lakshmi_ramesh vedic astrology Saturday, November 09, 2002 6:53 AM [vedic astrology] Avasthas - To Visti Om Gurave Namah Namaste Visti, According to Parasara, baalaavastha ( 1/4th results) has been defined as 0-6 degrees in odd signs and 24-30 degrees in even signs. 0-6degrees in even signs has been defined as mritavastha, where a planet will give only nil results. According to this, Mars at 28degrees Capricorn, Venus at 27degrees Pisces, Moon at 3degrees Taurus and Jupiter at 5degrees Cancer, all at their deep exaltation points, will give only minimal results. Can it happen? I feel that there's some hidden logic here, which perhaps we are unable to comprehend fully and apply properly? I agree that gandanta positions are deadly junctions, akin to pralaya. Still there are survivors… Regards, Lakshmi Group info: vedic astrology/info.html To UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology- ........ May Jupiter's light shine on us ....... Group info: vedic astrology/info.html To UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology- ....... May Jupiter's light shine on us ....... -- ZORAN RADOSAVLJEVIC Jyotish Teacher of Shree Jagannath Vedic Centre email: ahimsa (AT) NSpoint (DOT) net web: www.sjvc.co.yu Archives: vedic astrologyGroup info: vedic astrology/info.htmlTo UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology-........ May Jupiter's light shine on us ....... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 15, 2002 Report Share Posted November 15, 2002 Om Namo Narayanaya, Dear Visti/Sanjayji, I didn't mean that Mrita Avasta means collapse than getting up. I thought that Graha in exaltation in mrita gave the collapse due to a mrita, and getting up due to exaltation. Mrita clearly says that 100% negative results would be there. Yet it is fortunately only one aspect of graha judgement. The point is to evaluate graha when it has various different avastas such as deepta and mrita at the same time.I tend to call mrita "desintegrated". In my humble experinece each "dosha" or deficiency of a graha firstly damage "the livng things" of everything graha is related to. Best wishes Zoran Visti Larsen wrote: Om Jum Sah. Vyam Vyaasadevaaya Namah. Sah Jum Om Dear Zoran,I would rather infer that Baal Avastha would give results prematurely, and the results would be useless. Heres an old mail to you from Gurudev about this topic: Jaya Jagannath Mahaprabhu Dear Zoran, Due to the Mritavastha, the planet will give the results only in the last minute i.e. after all the means have been tried and the native is on the verge of giving up hopes related to its matters & lordship. As the AK, the Atma Gyana will come at a very late age...and so on. Thus, your analysis of the set-back is correct, but collapse may not be so true because of Degree instead, the "collapse" can be due to the placement of the planet in Sagittarius Navamsa meaning "fall from height" or"collapse". With Regards, Sanjay Rath Best wishes Visti --- Bhagavad Purana: http://www.srimadbhagavatam.org Brihat Parasara Hora Shastra: vedic astrologybphs.zip iTRANS 99 Font: http://www.omkarananda-ashram.org/Sanskrit/Itranslt.html - Zoran Radosavljevic vedic astrology Monday, November 11, 2002 3:45 AM Re: [vedic astrology] Avasthas - To Visti Om Namo Narayanaya, Dear Visti, Do you infer that the Baal avasta would give the results fast? Parashara is clear that Yuv avasta is the best. In my opinion, mrita avasta would collapse the graha, particularly its living things. In my own chart, shukra is in mrita avasta and my elder sister almost got killed in an accident (15 days comma) and both my aunts didn't survive. Note that Shukra rules 11th house(elder siblings) and 6th house (maternal aunts). Yet due to Shukra exaltation sister survived( marana karaka shukra counted from 11th house) and exaltation of Shukra who knows immortality-indeed a saving inspite of impossible odds. I think that Baal adhi avastas should be treated differently. In any case, do elaborate what you thought.. I am very curious Thanks Zoran Visti Larsen wrote: Om Jum Sah. Vyam Vyaasadevaaya Namah. Sah Jum Om Dear Lakshmi,Now we must act like vyasa and divide and arrange. Balaadhi Avasthas show how soon the results come of a planet. i.e. planets in mrita avastha give results of a natives effort at the dire end, when the native throught that the results would never come. Similarly reckon the other balaadhi avasthas. Also understand that the other avasthas and balas shows something different. We must divide very discriminately. As for your Gandanta position, we must remember the exception given by Parasara in the begining chapters:"eka eva jeeve lagnasthe risthasamchayamhanti paapaksayam bhaktyam pranaama iva shuulinah" Chapter 10 - Sloka 3 of Santhanam edition. Best wishes Visti --- Bhagavad Purana: http://www.srimadbhagavatam.org Brihat Parasara Hora Shastra: vedic astrologybphs.zip iTRANS 99 Font: http://www.omkarananda-ashram.org/Sanskrit/Itranslt.html - b_lakshmi_ramesh vedic astrology Saturday, November 09, 2002 6:53 AM [vedic astrology] Avasthas - To Visti Om Gurave Namah Namaste Visti, According to Parasara, baalaavastha ( 1/4th results) has been defined as 0-6 degrees in odd signs and 24-30 degrees in even signs. 0-6degrees in even signs has been defined as mritavastha, where a planet will give only nil results. According to this, Mars at 28degrees Capricorn, Venus at 27degrees Pisces, Moon at 3degrees Taurus and Jupiter at 5degrees Cancer, all at their deep exaltation points, will give only minimal results. Can it happen? I feel that there's some hidden logic here, which perhaps we are unable to comprehend fully and apply properly? I agree that gandanta positions are deadly junctions, akin to pralaya. Still there are survivors… Regards, Lakshmi . || Om Tat Sat || Sarvam Sri Krishnaarpanamastu || Terms of Service. || Om Tat Sat || Sarvam Sri Krishnaarpanamastu || Terms of Service. -- ZORAN RADOSAVLJEVIC Jyotish Teacher of Shree Jagannath Vedic Centre email: ahimsa (AT) NSpoint (DOT) net web: www.sjvc.co.yu . || Om Tat Sat || Sarvam Sri Krishnaarpanamastu || Terms of Service. || Om Tat Sat || Sarvam Sri Krishnaarpanamastu || Terms of Service. -- ZORAN RADOSAVLJEVIC Jyotish Teacher of Shree Jagannath Vedic Centre email: ahimsa (AT) NSpoint (DOT) net web: www.sjvc.co.yu Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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