Planet occupying same sign in 5 charts in Dasa Varga?

November 5, 2002

vedicastrostudent <vedicastrostudent > wrote:

Background: When a planet occupies the SAME sign in Rasi and Navamsa, it is

recognized to be Vargottama. When a planet occupies its OWN, MOOLATRIKONA, or

EXALTATION sign in multiple vargas, again each one of those possibilities is

recognized as something significant (I dont know each one but I have heard

terms like Uttamamsa, Parvatamsa, Gopuramsa, Devalokamsa, Vaiseshikamsa). My

question: If a planet occupies the SAME sign in 5 charts of the Dasa Varga

scheme, is that of some significance? I mean, it is Vargottama because it

occupies the same sign in Rasi and Navamsa, but continues to occupy the same

sign in Drekkana, Saptamsa, Dasamsa. However, that sign is NOT its OWN,

MOOLATRIKONA or EXALTATION sign. Is it any more significant than being

Vargottama? What if the repeatedly occupied sign is it's DEBILITATION

sign?Thank you,SPArchives: vedic astrologyGroup

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November 5, 2002

Dear SP:

A vargottama planet becomes extra strong, and bestows excellent results during

its dasa provided it is well posited in the natal chart, i.e., it is not either

debilitated or in an enemy's sign (now it raises an interesting question about

the planets, which though are not in an inimcal sign, but in a sign not

conducive to their disposition, e.g., sun in cancer - though sun is in its

friend moon's sign, but sun's placement in cancer is not considered good. What

will be the vargottama implication for sun in this case ??). A debilitated or

otherwise ill placed planet even if it is vargottama is not capable of

expressing itself well. On the contrary, its negative significations will be

accentuated by virtue of its being vargottama in navamsa.

Coming to the second part, yeah, a vargottama planet usually occupies the same

rasi not only in the navamsa, but also in a few other divisional charts as

well. This happens because such a planet is normally either at the beginning (

close to zero degree) or the end (28 degree or more) of a zodiac sign. Such a

planet is also normally in rasi sandhi, but if it gets repeated in the same

sign in several divisions, it is naturally a blessing, subject of course to the

usual caveat: it should not be spoiled in the rasi. The results will be that of

a vargottama planet only, i.e., very good results during the dasa of the

concerned planet.

I would request gurus to kindly enlighten us more on this very profound, but

controversial subject. Controversial because a lot of reputed astrolgers like

James Braha, don't acknowledge the phenomenon of vargottama. But Shri Sanjay

guru ji has been quite emphatic about the positive impact of such a position.

Some more thoughts would be extremely welcome.

Best wishes,

Ajit

>"vedicastrostudent"

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>[vedic astrology] Planet occupying same sign in 5 charts in Dasa

Varga? >Tue, 05 Nov 2002 23:31:33 -0000 > >Background: When a planet

occupies the SAME sign in Rasi and Navamsa, >it is recognized to be Vargottama.

When a planet occupies its OWN, >MOOLATRIKONA, or EXALTATION sign in multiple

vargas, again each one >of those possibilities is recognized as something

significant (I dont >know each one but I have heard terms like Uttamamsa,

Parvatamsa, >Gopuramsa, Devalokamsa, Vaiseshikamsa). > >My question: If a

planet occupies the SAME sign in 5 charts of the >Dasa Varga scheme, is that of

some significance? I mean, it is >Vargottama because it occupies the same sign

in Rasi and Navamsa, but >continues to occupy the same sign in Drekkana,

Saptamsa, Dasamsa. >However, that sign is NOT its OWN, MOOLATRIKONA or

EXALTATION sign. >Is it any more significant than being Vargottama? What if the

>repeatedly occupied sign is it's DEBILITATION sign? > >Thank you, > >SP > MSN 8

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Is it not considered a vargottama if a planet occupies

a same sign in Rasi,Drekkana,Dasamsa,Saptamsha and not

in Navamasa?

regards,

N.Anand

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<P>A vargottama planet becomes extra strong, and

bestows excellent results during its dasa provided it

is well posited in the natal chart, i.e., it is not

either debilitated or in an enemy's sign (now it

raises an interesting question about the planets,

which though are not in an inimcal sign, but in

a sign not conducive to their disposition, e.g.,

sun in cancer - though sun is in its friend

moon's sign, but sun's placement in cancer is not

considered good. What will be the vargottama

implication for sun in this case ??). A

debilitated or otherwise ill placed planet even if it

is vargottama is not capable of expressing itself

well. On the contrary, its negative significations

will be accentuated by virtue of its being vargottama

in navamsa.</P>

<P>Coming to the second part, yeah, a vargottama

planet usually occupies the same rasi not only in the

navamsa, but also in a few other divisional charts as

well. This happens because such a planet is normally

either at the beginning ( close to zero degree) or the

end (28 degree or more) of a zodiac sign. Such a

planet is also normally in rasi sandhi, but if it gets

repeated in the same sign in several divisions, it is

naturally a blessing, subject of course to the usual

caveat: it should not be spoiled in the rasi. The

results will be that of a vargottama planet only,

i.e., very good results during the dasa of the

concerned planet.</P>

<P>I would request gurus to kindly enlighten us more

on this very profound, but controversial subject.

Controversial because a lot of reputed astrolgers like

James Braha, don't acknowledge the phenomenon of

vargottama. But Shri Sanjay guru ji has been quite

emphatic about the positive impact of such a position.

Some more thoughts would be extremely welcome.</P>

<P>Best wishes,</P>

<DIV></DIV>>"vedicastrostudent"

<VEDICASTROSTUDENT

vedic astrology

<DIV></DIV>>vedic astrology

<DIV></DIV>>[vedic astrology] Planet

occupying same sign in 5 charts in Dasa Varga?

<DIV></DIV>>Tue, 05 Nov 2002 23:31:33 -0000

<DIV></DIV>>Background: When a planet occupies the

SAME sign in Rasi and Navamsa,

<DIV></DIV>>it is recognized to be Vargottama. When

a planet occupies its OWN,

<DIV></DIV>>MOOLATRIKONA, or EXALTATION sign in

multiple vargas, again each one

<DIV></DIV>>of those possibilities is recognized as

something significant (I dont

<DIV></DIV>>know each one but I have heard terms

like Uttamamsa, Parvatamsa,

<DIV></DIV>>Gopuramsa, Devalokamsa, Vaiseshikamsa).

<DIV></DIV>>My question: If a planet occupies the

SAME sign in 5 charts of the

<DIV></DIV>>Dasa Varga scheme, is that of some

significance? I mean, it is

<DIV></DIV>>Vargottama because it occupies the same

sign in Rasi and Navamsa, but

<DIV></DIV>>continues to occupy the same sign in

Drekkana, Saptamsa, Dasamsa.

<DIV></DIV>>However, that sign is NOT its OWN,

MOOLATRIKONA or EXALTATION sign.

<DIV></DIV>>Is it any more significant than being

Vargottama? What if the

<DIV></DIV>>repeatedly occupied sign is it's

DEBILITATION sign?

<DIV></DIV>>Thank you,

<DIV></DIV>>SP

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November 6, 2002

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vedic astrology, Prakash Narayanan <rcnp> wrote:

>

> In response to your question: i have Mercury in Aries in all the

division charts except Hora chart. Does it signify anything?

> vedicastrostudent <vedicastrostudent> wrote:Background: When

a planet occupies the SAME sign in Rasi and Navamsa,

> it is recognized to be Vargottama. When a planet occupies its OWN,

> MOOLATRIKONA, or EXALTATION sign in multiple vargas, again each one

> of those possibilities is recognized as something significant (I

dont

> know each one but I have heard terms like Uttamamsa, Parvatamsa,

> Gopuramsa, Devalokamsa, Vaiseshikamsa).

>

> My question: If a planet occupies the SAME sign in 5 charts of the

> Dasa Varga scheme, is that of some significance? I mean, it is

> Vargottama because it occupies the same sign in Rasi and Navamsa,

but

> continues to occupy the same sign in Drekkana, Saptamsa, Dasamsa.

> However, that sign is NOT its OWN, MOOLATRIKONA or EXALTATION sign.

> Is it any more significant than being Vargottama? What if the

> repeatedly occupied sign is it's DEBILITATION sign?

>

> Thank you,

>

> SP

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Dear Prakash,

To my knowledge the term Vargottama only applies to planets that fall into the

same sign in the rasi and D-9 charts. When a planet is situated in its sign of

exaltation, moolatrikona or it's own sign in various divisional charts this

definitely has meaning. The greater the number the of placements the better the

situation for whatever the planet signifies. This information is provided on

pages 35 - 43 in Krishna Kumar's book The Secrets of the Vargas. I know it can

be found in BPHS and/or Jamini's work but I can't lay my hands on it right now.

Phyllis

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Prakash Narayanan

vedic astrology

Tuesday, November 05, 2002 7:17 PM

Re: [vedic astrology] Planet occupying same sign in 5 charts in Dasa Varga?

In response to your question: i have Mercury in Aries in all the division charts

except Hora chart. Does it signify anything? vedicastrostudent

<vedicastrostudent > wrote: Background: When a planet occupies the

SAME sign in Rasi and Navamsa, it is recognized to be Vargottama. When a planet

occupies its OWN, MOOLATRIKONA, or EXALTATION sign in multiple vargas, again

each one of those possibilities is recognized as something significant (I dont

know each one but I have heard terms like Uttamamsa, Parvatamsa, Gopuramsa,

Devalokamsa, Vaiseshikamsa). My question: If a planet occupies the SAME sign in

5 charts of the Dasa Varga scheme, is that of some significance? I mean, it is

Vargottama because it occupies the same sign in Rasi and Navamsa, but continues

to occupy the same sign in Drekkana, Saptamsa, Dasamsa. However, that sign is

NOT its OWN, MOOLATRIKONA or EXALTATION sign. Is it any more significant than

being Vargottama? What if the repeatedly occupied sign is it's DEBILITATION

sign?Thank you,SPArchives: vedic astrologyGroup

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Thanks for the help. I shall look for it in BPHS.

Thanks!

Prakash

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