Guest guest Posted October 31, 2002 Report Share Posted October 31, 2002 It is said 'a benefic with either of nodes cancels KAY/KSY prematurely'. Is this is a natural benefic? what if a functional malefic though a natural benefic conjuncts any node? some more literature on breaking of this yoga is expected. regards, Nisha nishabhiram <nishabhiram > wrote: Now I am truly afraid. :)ok, I've read what is there for me to see so far and I love the example you give about the children in the burning house. works for me. the questions still remaining in my mind are 1) what is a mahayoga and how does it come about and what does it help accomplishand 2) how does one go about "neutralising" (for want of a better expression) a fully formed and functioning KSY (more dangerous to the human existence than the KAY, it seems) if they do not want to wait until age 42? My next job is to go look up celebrity/famous people's charts to see how this yoga operates. thanks again to visti and viswamitra and ishwar and everyone else for bearing with me. nisha.--- In vedic astrology, "Visti Larsen" <vishnu@l...> wrote:> Vyam Vyaasadevaaya Namah> > --> > Dear Nisha,> In the future i expect you to answer all the querries regarding Kala Sarpa/Amrita Yoga.> Here are two more links to mails i wrote in the past about this topic:> vedic astrology/message/7255> vedic astrology/message/6900> Best wishes> Visti> ---> Bhagavad Purana: http://www.srimadbhagavatam.org> Brihat Parasara Hora Shastra: vedic astrologybphs.zip> iTRANS 99 Font: http://www.omkarananda-ashram.org/Sanskrit/Itranslt.html> ----- Original Message ----- > nishabhiram > vedic astrology > Wednesday, October 30, 2002 7:38 AM> [vedic astrology] Re: Kala sarpa yoga> > > thanks! this is good! makes it very clear. yes, this means that the > chart I am looking right now at would have KSY if not for a mercury > conjunction Ketu. mercury is placed OUTSIDE the rahu-ketu axis. ok. > just thinking aloud. thanks ishwar!> > got one more question: what does this maha yoga do? does the mercury > placed thus (conj. ketu outside the axis) then form a maha yoga with > ketu? what is the significance of such a yoga? > > nisha.> > vedic astrology, "avikrishna" <avikrishna> wrote:> > Hello Nisha:> > > > Zodiacally means the sequence in which the planets traverse the > > zodiac (except Rahu and Ketu)> > So a sequence of Ar(ies),Ta,Ge,Cn,Le,Vi,Li,Sc,Sg,Cp,Aq and Pi(sces) > > is considered zodiacal.> > > > It cannot really be compared to clockwise or anticlockwise because > > different wasy of casting charts show it differently as jagmeet has > > mentioned.> > > > Ishwar> > > > --- In vedic astrology, "nishabhiram" <nishabhiram.> wrote:> > > Oh goody! One more time around the mari-go-round with KAY/KSY. > > > > > > So can I ask a really, really stupid question (stupid for me, > > > considering I have been diligently studying my texts!)? and I > know > > I > > > may be mathematically challenged, in which case I doubt whether I > > > shall ever become a jyotishi of any repute! :-(> > > > > > but what does it mean - zodiacally? can someone *please* explain. > > > clockwise ? anti-clockwise? which? > > > > > > nisha.> > > > > > vedic astrology, Rajeswari Shankar > > > <rajeswarishankar> wrote:> > > > > > > > Hi> > > > Very Interesting Article> > > > Regards> > > > Raji> > > > > > > > Chandramukha das <chandra@m...> wrote:Om Gurave Namah> > > > > > > > Please, very best article on Kala Sarpa & Kala Amrita Yoga of > Pt.> > > > Sanjay Rath: > > > > > > > > I do not have the reference at present for the Stanza "Agre > Rahu > > > adhou> > > > Ketu Sarva madhye Graha..." for Kala Sarpa Yoga (KSY) and the > > > reverse> > > > i.e. "Agre Ketu adhou Rahu .." for Kala Amrita Yoga (KAY). > There > > > were> > > > other details about the famines and destruction brought about > by > > the> > > > KSY in mundane matters. This was extended to natal charts.> > > > > > > > The moot point is that the nodes (Rahu & Ketu) represent the two> > > > extremities of life like the infra-red rays (Ketu) and the> > > > Ultra-violet rays (Rahu) being the two extremeties of the > visible> > > > spectrum of seven colors (VIBGYOR - the remaining seven planets > > from> > > > Sun to Saturn). Like the Infra-red & Ultra-violet rays are not > > part > > > of> > > > the visible spectrum, yet they can be good (Infra-red can cure > > many> > > > bone related/muscle related diseases) or bad (UV is very > > dangerous > > > and> > > > depletes the ozone layer like Rahu cutting out our breathing > > system> > > > and causing strangulation, asthama etc) so also the nodes Ketu > & > > > Rahu> > > > are not visible, yet they can influence human life.> > > > > > > > These two extremities of Human life are the Saint who renounces > > all> > > > attachment to worldly material existence in search for > > emancipation> > > > from sorrow/re-birth symbolised by Moksha karaka Ketu ruling > the > > > Tejas> > > > (fire) of tapasya or the dreaded Criminals who will go to any > > extent> > > > to enjoy the material enjoyments of this world like the Bhogi - > > > Rahu.> > > > These nodes are always opposite to each other symbolising the > > > opposite> > > > poles of life direction. Every human being is stationed between > > > these> > > > two extremeties at any point of time in his life. > > > > > > > > Coming to the question of determining the existence of KSY or > > KAY, > > > the> > > > first thing is to IGNORE the ascendant (Lagna). Place your > finger > > on> > > > the sign occupied by Ketu and move it zodiacally along the > signs > > > till> > > > the sign occupied by Rahu. Were all the other seven planets > placed> > > > within these signs from Ketu to Rahu? If yes, then Kala Sarpa > Yoga> > > > exists. Similarly, place your finger on the sign occupied by > Rahu > > > and> > > > move it zodiacally along the signs till the sign occupied by > Ketu.> > > > Were all the other seven planets placed within these signs from > > Rahu> > > > to Ketu? If yes, then Kala Amrita Yoga exists. If KSY exists > then> > > > there is an inherent tendency to enjoy and to grab material > > comforts> > > > for oneself. This can take an extreme form like criminal > > tendencies> > > > like stealing etc. If KAY exists, then the tendency is to give > up> > > > everything. In any case such people tend to be extreme in their> > > > decisions and naturally, there will be physical (Rahu) and > mental> > > > (Ketu) suffering just like Rahu and Ketu eclipsing the Sun and > > Moon> > > > respectively. > > > > In both cases, this is considered a bondage due to Karma of the > > last> > > > birth and will relieve the person or manifest at a certain > > specific> > > > age depending on the chart. One method of determing this is to > > use > > > the> > > > natural years of the planets (refer to Crux of Vedic astrology > by > > > this> > > > scribe) where that for Rahu is 45 and for Ketu is 43.> > > > The next natural question is to determine the planets that can > > break> > > > this KSY or KAY related suffering. We know that natural > malefics > > in> > > > Kendra (Quadrants) generate Sarpa Yoga. Thus, natural malefic > > > planets> > > > (Sun, Mars, Saturn, Rahu & Ketu - Sun has been included as a > > Krura > > > and> > > > not as a Dushta) only enhace the suffering and potential > problems> > > > associated with the KSY or KAY while natural Benefic planets > > (Moon,> > > > Jupiter, Mercury & Venus) can annul the suffering and generate> > > > greatness or Maha Yoga. > > > > > > > > Next comes the placement of these planets to annul the KSY/KAY > and> > > > generate the Maha Yoga. If in a chart otherwise having KSY/KAY, > > > these> > > > benefic planet(s) are placed with either of Rahu (Bhoga) or Ketu> > > > (Moksha) then the suffering ends and he attains greatness. Now > > > coming> > > > to houses, the placement of these planets in the first or > seventh> > > > house (Satya Peetha) also generates this great yoga. The > results > > of> > > > KSY/KAY are altered as per the houses they start from and end > at.> > > > Details are beyond the scope of this letter.> > > > > > > > A traditional Vedic Astrologer should not end without a small > > note > > > on> > > > remedies. "Kaloh Chandi Vinayako" is the Vedic remedy for this > KSY> > > > (Chandi) or KAY (Vinayaka - Ganapati) respectively. When the > > benefic> > > > planets conjoin the nodes, the deities are Parvati/Gouri (Moon),> > > > Sambasiva (Jupiter), Vishnu (Mercury) and Lakshmi (Venus)> > > > respectively. When natural benefics are in the first house, > then > > the> > > > deity is a form of Vishnu while in the seventh house a form of > > > Shiva.> > > > In this manner the intelligent astrologer can recommend the > > correct> > > > remedy. > > > > > > > > -- > > > > Yours sisya,> > > > Candramukha das> > > > > > > > ... 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