Guest guest Posted October 20, 2002 Report Share Posted October 20, 2002 Namaste Dear Friends and Gurus, Could you advice, how to recognize Dharma from the chart? What are the main significators? In my opinion, this is very important question, because if people is living with accordance to his/her Dharma, the life can be useful for the society and for this person as well. For any advise I'll be very appreciated. With the best wishes, Youry Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 21, 2002 Report Share Posted October 21, 2002 Dear Youry I think that you are treating Dharma as religion, and no doubt most of our astrologer friends would tend to agre with you.However Dharma in its strict sense is the duty of a person in a particular position. It will vary depending on the roles he performs in life at a particular time in his life and with regard to a certain person,nation, opponent etc. involved at that time. To make this more clear, think of a person as Father,son, husband,leader of a nation, an employee, an employer etc.Now he should do the right duty depending on his role at a point of time.Lord Krishna has elaborated beautifully in Shrimad Bhagavadgita,when he advises Arjuna that It is better to die doing one's own duty instead of trying to emulate somebody else doing his duty. Though unfortunately the shoka is quoted by many learned men and intrepreted to mean "It is better to die in one's own religion and that other's religion is to be feared" When the learned sages enjoin upon the astrologers to predict after taking into consideration the Place, time, region to which the Jataka belongs, his religion and local customs,surely they do not mean Dharma in the sense of religion. If you mean Dharma as it is meant to be understood by the Hindu Religion, i.e. Duty, then its parameters are well defined and horoscopes cannot tell about Dharma it being not flexible and variable. Rather the horoscope can tell whether a Jataka will fulfill his dharma in various roles or otherwise. This could be easily assessed from different Bhava Swami Positions, their occupants and Aspects received by the Bhavas. I would like other Gurujan's comments as to whether my reasoning is correct or otherwise. Chandrashekhar - Youry vedic astrology Monday, October 21, 2002 6:58 AM [vedic astrology] Question about Dharma NamasteDear Friends and Gurus,Could you advice, how to recognize Dharma from the chart? What are the main significators?In my opinion, this is very important question, because if people is living with accordance to his/her Dharma, the life can be useful for the society and for this person as well. For any advise I'll be very appreciated.With the best wishes,YouryArchives: vedic astrologyGroup info: vedic astrology/info.htmlTo UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology-....... May Jupiter's light shine on us ....... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 22, 2002 Report Share Posted October 22, 2002 Dear Chandrashekhar, Thank you very much for your replay. I'm agree with you completely. The main question is how to find Dharma for the human being from the birth chart. In my opinion, it's similar to the sense of the life, but maybe are widely and deeper. Would be anybody give some advise or comments for this topic? With the best wishes, Youry +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ "Chandrashekhar" <boxdel Re: Question about Dharma Dear Youry I think that you are treating Dharma as religion, and no doubt most of our astrologer friends would tend to agre with you.However Dharma in its strict sense is the duty of a person in a particular position. It will vary depending on the roles he performs in life at a particular time in his life and with regard to a certain person,nation, opponent etc. involved at that time. To make this more clear, think of a person as Father,son, husband,leader of a nation, an employee, an employer etc.Now he should do the right duty depending on his role at a point of time.Lord Krishna has elaborated beautifully in Shrimad Bhagavadgita,when he advises Arjuna that It is better to die doing one's own duty instead of trying to emulate somebody else doing his duty. Though unfortunately the shoka is quoted by many learned men and intrepreted to mean "It is better to die in one's own religion and that other's religion is to be feared" When the learned sages enjoin upon the astrologers to predict after taking into consideration the Place, time, region to which the Jataka belongs, his religion and local customs,surely they do not mean Dharma in the sense of religion. If you mean Dharma as it is meant to be understood by the Hindu Religion, i.e. Duty, then its parameters are well defined and horoscopes cannot tell about Dharma it being not flexible and variable. Rather the horoscope can tell whether a Jataka will fulfill his dharma in various roles or otherwise. This could be easily assessed from different Bhava Swami Positions, their occupants and Aspects received by the Bhavas. I would like other Gurujan's comments as to whether my reasoning is correct or otherwise. Chandrashekhar - Youry vedic astrology Monday, October 21, 2002 6:58 AM [vedic astrology] Question about Dharma Namaste Dear Friends and Gurus, Could you advice, how to recognize Dharma from the chart? What are the main significators? In my opinion, this is very important question, because if people is living with accordance to his/her Dharma, the life can be useful for the society and for this person as well. For any advise I'll be very appreciated. With the best wishes, Youry Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 22, 2002 Report Share Posted October 22, 2002 || Om Gurave Namah || || Om Namo Narayanaya || Dear Youry The D-9 Navamsa chart will reveal all on dharma concerning a native. Navamsa is also known as Dharmamsa. Best wishes R. Kasthuri Rangan vedic astrology, "Chandrashekhar" <boxdel> wrote: > Dear Youry > I think that you are treating Dharma as religion, and no doubt most of our astrologer friends would tend to agre with you.However Dharma in its strict sense is the duty of a person in a particular position. It will vary depending on the roles he performs in life at a particular time in his life and with regard to a certain person,nation, opponent etc. involved at that time. > To make this more clear, think of a person as Father,son, husband,leader of a nation, an employee, an employer etc.Now he should do the right duty depending on his role at a point of time.Lord Krishna has elaborated beautifully in Shrimad Bhagavadgita,when he advises Arjuna that It is better to die doing one's own duty instead of trying to emulate somebody else doing his duty. > Though unfortunately the shoka is quoted by many learned men and intrepreted to mean "It is better to die in one's own religion and that other's religion is to be feared" > > When the learned sages enjoin upon the astrologers to predict after taking into consideration the Place, time, region to which the Jataka belongs, his religion and local customs,surely they do not mean Dharma in the sense of religion. > > If you mean Dharma as it is meant to be understood by the Hindu Religion, i.e. Duty, then its parameters are well defined and horoscopes cannot tell about Dharma it being not flexible and variable. > Rather the horoscope can tell whether a Jataka will fulfill his dharma in various roles or otherwise. This could be easily assessed from different Bhava Swami Positions, their occupants and Aspects received by the Bhavas. > > I would like other Gurujan's comments as to whether my reasoning is correct or otherwise. > Chandrashekhar > - > Youry > vedic astrology > Monday, October 21, 2002 6:58 AM > [vedic astrology] Question about Dharma > > > Namaste > > Dear Friends and Gurus, > > Could you advice, how to recognize Dharma from the chart? What are the > main significators? > > In my opinion, this is very important question, because if people is > living with accordance to his/her Dharma, the life can be useful for the > society and for this person as well. > > For any advise I'll be very appreciated. > > With the best wishes, > > Youry > > > > Sponsor > > > > > > > > > > > To UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology-@e... > > ....... May Jupiter's light shine on us ....... > > > > Terms of Service. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 23, 2002 Report Share Posted October 23, 2002 Dear Kasturirangan, I am a novice , but does not Dharmansha mean navamsha occupied by the Lord of the 9th? Chandrashekhar. - rkrangan vedic astrology Tuesday, October 22, 2002 9:06 PM [vedic astrology] Re: Question about Dharma || Om Gurave Namah |||| Om Namo Narayanaya ||Dear YouryThe D-9 Navamsa chart will reveal all on dharma concerning a native. Navamsa is also known as Dharmamsa.Best wishesR. Kasthuri Ranganvedic astrology, "Chandrashekhar" <boxdel> wrote:> Dear Youry> I think that you are treating Dharma as religion, and no doubt most of our astrologer friends would tend to agre with you.However Dharma in its strict sense is the duty of a person in a particular position. It will vary depending on the roles he performs in life at a particular time in his life and with regard to a certain person,nation, opponent etc. involved at that time.> To make this more clear, think of a person as Father,son, husband,leader of a nation, an employee, an employer etc.Now he should do the right duty depending on his role at a point of time.Lord Krishna has elaborated beautifully in Shrimad Bhagavadgita,when he advises Arjuna that It is better to die doing one's own duty instead of trying to emulate somebody else doing his duty.> Though unfortunately the shoka is quoted by many learned men and intrepreted to mean "It is better to die in one's own religion and that other's religion is to be feared"> > When the learned sages enjoin upon the astrologers to predict after taking into consideration the Place, time, region to which the Jataka belongs, his religion and local customs,surely they do not mean Dharma in the sense of religion.> > If you mean Dharma as it is meant to be understood by the Hindu Religion, i.e. Duty, then its parameters are well defined and horoscopes cannot tell about Dharma it being not flexible and variable.> Rather the horoscope can tell whether a Jataka will fulfill his dharma in various roles or otherwise. This could be easily assessed from different Bhava Swami Positions, their occupants and Aspects received by the Bhavas.> > I would like other Gurujan's comments as to whether my reasoning is correct or otherwise.> Chandrashekhar> ----- Original Message ----- > Youry > vedic astrology > Sent: Monday, October 21, 2002 6:58 AM> [vedic astrology] Question about Dharma> > > Namaste> > Dear Friends and Gurus,> > Could you advice, how to recognize Dharma from the chart? What are the > main significators?> > In my opinion, this is very important question, because if people is > living with accordance to his/her Dharma, the life can be useful for the > society and for this person as well. > > For any advise I'll be very appreciated.> > With the best wishes,> > Youry> > > > Sponsor > > > > > > > Archives: vedic astrology> > Group info: vedic astrology/info.html> > To UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology-@e...> > ....... May Jupiter's light shine on us .......> > || Om Tat Sat || Sarvam Sri Krishnaarpanamastu || > > Terms of Service.Archives: vedic astrologyGroup info: vedic astrology/info.htmlTo UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology-....... May Jupiter's light shine on us ....... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 23, 2002 Report Share Posted October 23, 2002 Dear R. Kasthuri Rangan, Thank you very much for the answer. Is it available any books or articles about it? Youry Jay Guru Dev +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Tue, 22 Oct 2002 15:36:37 -0000 "rkrangan" <rkrangan Re: Question about Dharma || Om Gurave Namah || || Om Namo Narayanaya || Dear Youry The D-9 Navamsa chart will reveal all on dharma concerning a native. Navamsa is also known as Dharmamsa. Best wishes R. Kasthuri Rangan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 24, 2002 Report Share Posted October 24, 2002 || Om Gurave Namah || || Om Namo Narayanaya || Dear Chandrasekhar In a chart, 9th house represents dharma. Marriage is one of the frutis of dharma. Pt Sanjay has given a brilliant explanation in his book "Narayana Dasa" stating that man marries and regulates his personal and sexual life on the basis of dharma and therefore advocates that in the calculation of Navamsa dasas, it is prudent to use the 9th house as basis. Dharma as you had pointed out also refers to the various roles man has to adorn in the journey of life. But how dharmic is a native in various spheres, including interaction with others, basic skills, inner self etc is what I have understood, Navamsa can reveal. The 7th house may most refer to marriage, spouse, partners, relationships which is not entirely dharma. But this is completely covered by Navamsa. Dharma - rightenousness and adherence to duty, is shown in a chart by trines from the 1st house viz. 1,5 and 9. Navamsa should take the the divisions of the 9th house ideally to delve deeper into the dharma plane. I have no other source to quote other than Sri. PVR Narasimha's "Vedic Astrology-An Integrated Approach" in which he has explained this. I am also a student here and I have shared what I have understood. Gurus may kindly correct me if I am wrong and provide more light, if there is darkness in my understanding. Best wishes R. Kasthuri Rangan vedic astrology, "Chandrashekhar" <boxdel> wrote: > Dear Kasturirangan, > I am a novice , but does not Dharmansha mean navamsha occupied by the Lord of the 9th? > Chandrashekhar. > - > rkrangan > vedic astrology > Tuesday, October 22, 2002 9:06 PM > [vedic astrology] Re: Question about Dharma > > > || Om Gurave Namah || > || Om Namo Narayanaya || > > > Dear Youry > > The D-9 Navamsa chart will reveal all on dharma concerning a native. > Navamsa is also known as Dharmamsa. > > Best wishes > R. Kasthuri Rangan > > > > vedic astrology, "Chandrashekhar" <boxdel> wrote: > > Dear Youry > > I think that you are treating Dharma as religion, and no doubt most > of our astrologer friends would tend to agre with you.However Dharma > in its strict sense is the duty of a person in a particular position. > It will vary depending on the roles he performs in life at a > particular time in his life and with regard to a certain > person,nation, opponent etc. involved at that time. > > To make this more clear, think of a person as Father,son, > husband,leader of a nation, an employee, an employer etc.Now he > should do the right duty depending on his role at a point of > time.Lord Krishna has elaborated beautifully in Shrimad > Bhagavadgita,when he advises Arjuna that It is better to die doing > one's own duty instead of trying to emulate somebody else doing his > duty. > > Though unfortunately the shoka is quoted by many learned men and > intrepreted to mean "It is better to die in one's own religion and > that other's religion is to be feared" > > > > When the learned sages enjoin upon the astrologers to predict after > taking into consideration the Place, time, region to which the Jataka > belongs, his religion and local customs,surely they do not mean > Dharma in the sense of religion. > > > > If you mean Dharma as it is meant to be understood by the Hindu > Religion, i.e. Duty, then its parameters are well defined and > horoscopes cannot tell about Dharma it being not flexible and > variable. > > Rather the horoscope can tell whether a Jataka will fulfill his > dharma in various roles or otherwise. This could be easily assessed > from different Bhava Swami Positions, their occupants and Aspects > received by the Bhavas. > > > > I would like other Gurujan's comments as to whether my reasoning is > correct or otherwise. > > Chandrashekhar > > - > > Youry > > vedic astrology > > Monday, October 21, 2002 6:58 AM > > [vedic astrology] Question about Dharma > > > > > > Namaste > > > > Dear Friends and Gurus, > > > > Could you advice, how to recognize Dharma from the chart? What > are the > > main significators? > > > > In my opinion, this is very important question, because if people > is > > living with accordance to his/her Dharma, the life can be useful > for the > > society and for this person as well. > > > > For any advise I'll be very appreciated. > > > > With the best wishes, > > > > Youry > > > > > > > > Sponsor > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Group info: vedic- astrology/info.html > > > > To UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology-@e... > > > > ....... May Jupiter's light shine on us ....... > > > > > > > > Terms of > Service. > > > Sponsor > > > > > > > > > > > To UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology-@e... > > ....... May Jupiter's light shine on us ....... > > > > Terms of Service. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 24, 2002 Report Share Posted October 24, 2002 Vyam Vyaasadevaaya Namah Dear RK, Slight correction of terminology. There is a Dasa called Navamsa Dasa, given by Jaimini, but its based on the Rasi and is used for Ayur purposes. You must mean Navamsa-Narayana Dasa instead. Best wishesVisti---Bhagavad Purana: http://www.srimadbhagavatam.orgBrihat Parasara Hora Shastra: vedic astrologybphs.zipiTRANS 99 Font: http://www.omkarananda-ashram.org/Sanskrit/Itranslt.html - rkrangan vedic astrology Thursday, October 24, 2002 12:15 PM [vedic astrology] Re: Question about Dharma || Om Gurave Namah |||| Om Namo Narayanaya ||Dear ChandrasekharIn a chart, 9th house represents dharma. Marriage is one of the frutis of dharma. Pt Sanjay has given a brilliant explanation in his book "Narayana Dasa" stating that man marries and regulates his personal and sexual life on the basis of dharma and therefore advocates that in the calculation of Navamsa dasas, it is prudent to use the 9th house as basis.Dharma as you had pointed out also refers to the various roles man has to adorn in the journey of life. But how dharmic is a native in various spheres, including interaction with others, basic skills, inner self etc is what I have understood, Navamsa can reveal. The 7th house may most refer to marriage, spouse, partners, relationships which is not entirely dharma. But this is completely covered by Navamsa.Dharma - rightenousness and adherence to duty, is shown in a chart by trines from the 1st house viz. 1,5 and 9. Navamsa should take the the divisions of the 9th house ideally to delve deeper into the dharma plane. I have no other source to quote other than Sri. PVR Narasimha's "Vedic Astrology-An Integrated Approach" in which he has explained this.I am also a student here and I have shared what I have understood. Gurus may kindly correct me if I am wrong and provide more light, if there is darkness in my understanding.Best wishesR. Kasthuri Rangan--- In vedic astrology, "Chandrashekhar" <boxdel> wrote:> Dear Kasturirangan,> I am a novice , but does not Dharmansha mean navamsha occupied by the Lord of the 9th?> Chandrashekhar.> - > rkrangan > vedic astrology > Tuesday, October 22, 2002 9:06 PM> [vedic astrology] Re: Question about Dharma> > > || Om Gurave Namah ||> || Om Namo Narayanaya ||> > > Dear Youry> > The D-9 Navamsa chart will reveal all on dharma concerning a native. > Navamsa is also known as Dharmamsa.> > Best wishes> R. Kasthuri Rangan> > > > --- In vedic astrology, "Chandrashekhar" <boxdel> wrote:> > Dear Youry> > I think that you are treating Dharma as religion, and no doubt most > of our astrologer friends would tend to agre with you.However Dharma > in its strict sense is the duty of a person in a particular position. > It will vary depending on the roles he performs in life at a > particular time in his life and with regard to a certain > person,nation, opponent etc. involved at that time.> > To make this more clear, think of a person as Father,son, > husband,leader of a nation, an employee, an employer etc.Now he > should do the right duty depending on his role at a point of > time.Lord Krishna has elaborated beautifully in Shrimad > Bhagavadgita,when he advises Arjuna that It is better to die doing > one's own duty instead of trying to emulate somebody else doing his > duty.> > Though unfortunately the shoka is quoted by many learned men and > intrepreted to mean "It is better to die in one's own religion and > that other's religion is to be feared"> > > > When the learned sages enjoin upon the astrologers to predict after > taking into consideration the Place, time, region to which the Jataka > belongs, his religion and local customs,surely they do not mean > Dharma in the sense of religion.> > > > If you mean Dharma as it is meant to be understood by the Hindu > Religion, i.e. Duty, then its parameters are well defined and > horoscopes cannot tell about Dharma it being not flexible and > variable.> > Rather the horoscope can tell whether a Jataka will fulfill his > dharma in various roles or otherwise. This could be easily assessed > from different Bhava Swami Positions, their occupants and Aspects > received by the Bhavas.> > > > I would like other Gurujan's comments as to whether my reasoning is > correct or otherwise.> > Chandrashekhar> > - > > Youry > > vedic astrology > > Monday, October 21, 2002 6:58 AM> > [vedic astrology] Question about Dharma> > > > > > Namaste> > > > Dear Friends and Gurus,> > > > Could you advice, how to recognize Dharma from the chart? What > are the > > main significators?> > > > In my opinion, this is very important question, because if people > is > > living with accordance to his/her Dharma, the life can be useful > for the > > society and for this person as well. > > > > For any advise I'll be very appreciated.> > > > With the best wishes,> > > > Youry> > > > > > > > Sponsor > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Archives: vedic astrology> > > > Group info: vedic astrology/info.html> > > > To UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology-@e...> > > > > > > > || Om Tat Sat || Sarvam Sri Krishnaarpanamastu || > > > > Your use of is subject to the Terms of > Service.> > > Sponsor > > > > > > > Archives: vedic astrology> > Group info: http://ww w.vedic astrology/info.html> > To UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology-@e...> > ....... May Jupiter's light shine on us ........> > > > Archives: vedic astrologyGroup info: vedic astrology/info.htmlTo UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology-........ 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Guest guest Posted October 25, 2002 Report Share Posted October 25, 2002 Dear Kasturirangan, You have not replied to my original query, which is "Is Dharmansha not the Navamsha position or house occupied by Lord of 9th house?" I would like to remind you here that Dharma does not necessarily mean married life.Ascetics never mary , do you mean they do not follow their Dharma.The basic pillars of our religion are"Artha, Dharma, Kama and Moksha" I think you are confusing the original question. South Astrologers treat 9th house as house of father too(in addition to Dharma Sthan).In Upanayan sanskar it is the father who gives Gayatry Mantra to son and the connection between Father and Dharma vis-a-vis 9th house is clear. Regards, Chandrashekhar - rkrangan vedic astrology Thursday, October 24, 2002 3:45 PM [vedic astrology] Re: Question about Dharma || Om Gurave Namah |||| Om Namo Narayanaya ||Dear ChandrasekharIn a chart, 9th house represents dharma. Marriage is one of the frutis of dharma. Pt Sanjay has given a brilliant explanation in his book "Narayana Dasa" stating that man marries and regulates his personal and sexual life on the basis of dharma and therefore advocates that in the calculation of Navamsa dasas, it is prudent to use the 9th house as basis.Dharma as you had pointed out also refers to the various roles man has to adorn in the journey of life. But how dharmic is a native in various spheres, including interaction with others, basic skills, inner self etc is what I have understood, Navamsa can reveal. The 7th house may most refer to marriage, spouse, partners, relationships which is not entirely dharma. But this is completely covered by Navamsa.Dharma - rightenousness and adherence to duty, is shown in a chart by trines from the 1st house viz. 1,5 and 9. Navamsa should take the the divisions of the 9th house ideally to delve deeper into the dharma plane. I have no other source to quote other than Sri. PVR Narasimha's "Vedic Astrology-An Integrated Approach" in which he has explained this.I am also a student here and I have shared what I have understood. Gurus may kindly correct me if I am wrong and provide more light, if there is darkness in my understanding.Best wishesR. Kasthuri Rangan--- In vedic astrology, "Chandrashekhar" <boxdel> wrote:> Dear Kasturirangan,> I am a novice , but does not Dharmansha mean navamsha occupied by the Lord of the 9th?> Chandrashekhar.> - > rkrangan > vedic astrology > Tuesday, October 22, 2002 9:06 PM> [vedic astrology] Re: Question about Dharma> > > || Om Gurave Namah ||> || Om Namo Narayanaya ||> > > Dear Youry> > The D-9 Navamsa chart will reveal all on dharma concerning a native. > Navamsa is also known as Dharmamsa.> > Best wishes> R. Kasthuri Rangan> > > > --- In vedic astrology, "Chandrashekhar" <boxdel> wrote:> > Dear Youry> > I think that you are treating Dharma as religion, and no doubt most > of our astrologer friends would tend to agre with you.However Dharma > in its strict sense is the duty of a person in a particular position. > It will vary depending on the roles he performs in life at a > particular time in his life and with regard to a certain > person,nation, opponent etc. involved at that time.> > To make this more clear, think of a person as Father,son, > husband,leader of a nation, an employee, an employer etc.Now he > should do the right duty depending on his role at a point of > time.Lord Krishna has elaborated beautifully in Shrimad > Bhagavadgita,when he advises Arjuna that It is better to die doing > one's own duty instead of trying to emulate somebody else doing his > duty.> > Though unfortunately the shoka is quoted by many learned men and > intrepreted to mean "It is better to die in one's own religion and > that other's religion is to be feared"> > > > When the learned sages enjoin upon the astrologers to predict after > taking into consideration the Place, time, region to which the Jataka > belongs, his religion and local customs,surely they do not mean > Dharma in the sense of religion.> > > > If you mean Dharma as it is meant to be understood by the Hindu > Religion, i.e. Duty, then its parameters are well defined and > horoscopes cannot tell about Dharma it being not flexible and > variable.> > Rather the horoscope can tell whether a Jataka will fulfill his > dharma in various roles or otherwise. This could be easily assessed > from different Bhava Swami Positions, their occupants and Aspects > received by the Bhavas.> > > > I would like other Gurujan's comments as to whether my reasoning is > correct or otherwise.> > Chandrashekhar> > - > > Youry > > vedic astrology > > Monday, October 21, 2002 6:58 AM> > [vedic astrology] Question about Dharma> > > > > > Namaste> > > > Dear Friends and Gurus,> > > > Could you advice, how to recognize Dharma from the chart? What > are the > > main significators?> > > > In my opinion, this is very important question, because if people > is > > living with accordance to his/her Dharma, the life can be useful > for the > > society and for this person as well. > > > > For any advise I'll be very appreciated.> > > > With the best wishes,> > > > Youry> > > > > > > > Sponsor > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Archives: vedic astrology> > > > Group info: vedic astrology/info.html> > > > To UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology-@e...> > > > > > > > || Om Tat Sat || Sarvam Sri Krishnaarpanamastu || > > > > Your use of is subject to the Terms of > Service.> > > Sponsor > > > > > > > Archives: vedic astrology> > Group info: vedic astrology/info.html> > To UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology-@e...> > ....... 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Guest guest Posted October 26, 2002 Report Share Posted October 26, 2002 || Om Gurave Namah || || Om Namo Narayanaya || Dear Chandrasekar Let me reiterate once again, that I am only a student still a long way to go! Infact, I only agreed with you !!! I have clearly said that marriage and related life alone is not dharma. I have also stressed that dharma encompasses a lot more in reality, than mere marriage, related activities, relationships etc and that is one reason why the 9th house is taken as the house to reckon certain dasa computations. I think the original question was which chart would reveal dharma and I had said D-9 can show it. Yes. The 9th lord plays the host. The 9th lord shows the divinity in a chart. You already know that the 9th signifies father, teacher, religion, fortune, spiritualism and a lot more. Pt Rath says that since it is the real protector of the native, it is called dharma bhava. I went one step ahead to say computation of navamsa narayana dasa can possibly reveal timing of events related to significations of the 9th. I never commented anything about ascetics or their dharma. I had only said that it may not be prudent to reckon certain dasas of dharmamsa or D-9, based on the 7th house as some astrologers do and that it should be reckoned from the 9th, due to the above reasons. I am open for correction. Best wishes R. Kasthuri Rangan vedic astrology, "Chandrashekhar" <boxdel> wrote: > Dear Kasturirangan, > You have not replied to my original query, which is "Is Dharmansha not the Navamsha position or house occupied by Lord of 9th house?" > I would like to remind you here that Dharma does not necessarily mean married life.Ascetics never mary , do you mean they do not follow their Dharma.The basic pillars of our religion are"Artha, Dharma, Kama and Moksha" I think you are confusing the original question. > South Astrologers treat 9th house as house of father too(in addition to Dharma Sthan).In Upanayan sanskar it is the father who gives Gayatry Mantra to son and the connection between Father and Dharma vis-a-vis 9th house is clear. > Regards, > Chandrashekhar > - > rkrangan > vedic astrology > Thursday, October 24, 2002 3:45 PM > [vedic astrology] Re: Question about Dharma > > > || Om Gurave Namah || > || Om Namo Narayanaya || > > > Dear Chandrasekhar > > In a chart, 9th house represents dharma. Marriage is one of the > frutis of dharma. Pt Sanjay has given a brilliant explanation in his > book "Narayana Dasa" stating that man marries and regulates his > personal and sexual life on the basis of dharma and therefore > advocates that in the calculation of Navamsa dasas, it is prudent to > use the 9th house as basis. > > Dharma as you had pointed out also refers to the various roles man > has to adorn in the journey of life. But how dharmic is a native in > various spheres, including interaction with others, basic skills, > inner self etc is what I have understood, Navamsa can reveal. > > The 7th house may most refer to marriage, spouse, partners, > relationships which is not entirely dharma. But this is completely > covered by Navamsa. > > Dharma - rightenousness and adherence to duty, is shown in a chart by > trines from the 1st house viz. 1,5 and 9. Navamsa should take the the > divisions of the 9th house ideally to delve deeper into the dharma > plane. I have no other source to quote other than Sri. PVR > Narasimha's "Vedic Astrology-An Integrated Approach" in which he has > explained this. > > I am also a student here and I have shared what I have understood. > Gurus may kindly correct me if I am wrong and provide more light, if > there is darkness in my understanding. > > Best wishes > R. Kasthuri Rangan vedic astrology, "Chandrashekhar" <boxdel> wrote: > > Dear Kasturirangan, > > I am a novice , but does not Dharmansha mean navamsha occupied by > the Lord of the 9th? > > Chandrashekhar. > > - > > rkrangan > > vedic astrology > > Tuesday, October 22, 2002 9:06 PM > > [vedic astrology] Re: Question about Dharma > > > > > > || Om Gurave Namah || > > || Om Namo Narayanaya || > > > > > > Dear Youry > > > > The D-9 Navamsa chart will reveal all on dharma concerning a > native. > > Navamsa is also known as Dharmamsa. > > > > Best wishes > > R. Kasthuri Rangan > > > > > > > > vedic astrology, "Chandrashekhar" <boxdel> wrote: > > > Dear Youry > > > I think that you are treating Dharma as religion, and no doubt > most > > of our astrologer friends would tend to agre with you.However > Dharma > > in its strict sense is the duty of a person in a particular > position. > > It will vary depending on the roles he performs in life at a > > particular time in his life and with regard to a certain > > person,nation, opponent etc. involved at that time. > > > To make this more clear, think of a person as Father,son, > > husband,leader of a nation, an employee, an employer etc.Now he > > should do the right duty depending on his role at a point of > > time.Lord Krishna has elaborated beautifully in Shrimad > > Bhagavadgita,when he advises Arjuna that It is better to die > doing > > one's own duty instead of trying to emulate somebody else doing > his > > duty. > > > Though unfortunately the shoka is quoted by many learned men > and > > intrepreted to mean "It is better to die in one's own religion > and > > that other's religion is to be feared" > > > > > > When the learned sages enjoin upon the astrologers to predict > after > > taking into consideration the Place, time, region to which the > Jataka > > belongs, his religion and local customs,surely they do not mean > > Dharma in the sense of religion. > > > > > > If you mean Dharma as it is meant to be understood by the Hindu > > Religion, i.e. Duty, then its parameters are well defined and > > horoscopes cannot tell about Dharma it being not flexible and > > variable. > > > Rather the horoscope can tell whether a Jataka will fulfill his > > dharma in various roles or otherwise. This could be easily > assessed > > from different Bhava Swami Positions, their occupants and Aspects > > received by the Bhavas. > > > > > > I would like other Gurujan's comments as to whether my > reasoning is > > correct or otherwise. > > > Chandrashekhar > > > - > > > Youry > > > vedic astrology > > > Monday, October 21, 2002 6:58 AM > > > [vedic astrology] Question about Dharma > > > > > > > > > Namaste > > > > > > Dear Friends and Gurus, > > > > > > Could you advice, how to recognize Dharma from the chart? > What > > are the > > > main significators? > > > > > > In my opinion, this is very important question, because if > people > > is > > > living with accordance to his/her Dharma, the life can be > useful > > for the > > > society and for this person as well. > > > > > > For any advise I'll be very appreciated. > > > > > > With the best wishes, > > > > > > Youry > > > > > > > > > > > > Sponsor > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Group info: vedic- > astrology/info.html > > > > > > To UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology- @e... > > > > > > ....... 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