Importance of Weekday and Panchanga (Tithi Pravish and the day of the week.)

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Namaste ,

Narasimha ( et. al)

thank you for your repsonse...yes I am keen on the importance

Of the weekday and its lord. It was magnified by Tithi Pravesh.

 

I mention this and refer back to Sanjay's note that is quite possible

to determine the day of the week by one's spiritually advanced

abilities. This is not unusual to hear, for clarity comes to one

that is enlightened ( Ritam will enighten those that touch it).

 

Your comments are very insightful... thank you.

 

vedic astrology, "pvr108" <pvr@c...> wrote:

> Dear Frank,

>

> > This is key to casting an accurate Tithi Pravish chart e.g. the

> > weekday ruler at the commencement of the native's year has

great

> > influence on the coming year.

> > That said, and after thousands of years and waxing and waning of

> > Sat Yuga to Kali Yuga what guide point exists that says monday

is

> > monday!

>

> SanjayP has already replied to you. When it comes to the question

of

> how we can be sure that the weekdays that we are currently using

are

> right, I have nothing to add.

>

> But I will make one point on the importance of weekday. You give

the

> impression that the use of the weekday in Tithi Pravesha system

made

> you sit up and realize the importance of weekdays.

>

> The fact is that weekday is a basic thing in astrology and has an

> importance of its own. It is one of the five angas (limbs) of

> panchanga (pancha = five, anga = limbs).

>

> The five limbs of panchanga are vara (weekday), karana (lunar half-

> day), nakshatra (constellation), tithi (lunar day) and yoga (soli-

> lunar day). These five limbs show the nature of time with respect

to

> the five elements (pancha bhootas or pancha tattvas). These five

> represent the five elements - fire, earth, air, water and ether.

>

> Vaara represents the fire element. Fire element is important for

> determining longevity and physical strength. Whether you are

looking

> at a muhurta (electional) chart or a prasna (horary) chart, pay

close

> attention to the weekday lord. Is he a functional benefic or a

> malefic? Is he placed in a quadrant or a trine from lagna, lagna

lord

> and karyesha (the lord of the house of interest) or in a dusthana?

>

> For example, look at the chart when I joined PictureTel (my 4th

job)

> in March 1996. The chart is cast for 4th March 1996, 11:40 am,

> Andover, MA, USA. It was a Monday. Gemini rises. Moon is in Le - a

> quadrant from lagna lord Mercury in Aq and a trine from 10th lord

> Jupiter in Sg. He is functionally neutral from Ge. Overall, he is

> quite favorable and I stayed in that job for more than 5 years

(which

> is quite long for my desa-kala-patra).

>

> Now, let us look at the chart when I left PictureTel and joined

> ThinkEngine - a telecom start-up - in May 2001. The chart is cast

for

> 10th May 2001, 12:50 pm, Marlboro, MA, USA. It was a Thursday

lorded

> by Jupiter. Leo was rising. Jupiter in Taurus is in dwir-dwadasa

from

> exalted lagna lord Sun and in 3rd from exalted 10th lord Venus.

> Though lagna lord and 10th lord are both exalted, poor placement

of

> weekday lord from them does not promise long life of this job.

After

> I worked at the company for 1 year 3 months, they basically closed

> the whole engineering group and went into survival mode with the

> marketing people still there. So the job did not last too long and

I

> had to look for another job.

>

> Longevity is one thing, but how was the job while it lasted?

>

> Fire element ruled by Mars only shows physical strength and

> longevity. To see the overall success, use the earth element ruled

by

> Mercury! That element is represented by the karana lord.

>

> Now, go back to the PictureTel joining chart. Vishti karana was

> running at the time. Saturn rules it. He is the 8th and 9th lord

from

> Ge lagna and functionally neutral. Though he is in the 2nd house

from

> lagna lord, he is in a quadrant from the 10th lord and from lagna

> too. Overall, he is fine and the job was good. In the ThinkEngine

> joining chart, bava karana rises. Sun rules bava karana. He is the

> exalted lagna lord in the 9th from lagna. Despite being in the 2nd

> from 10th lord, he is an excellently placed planet overall. This

> shows excellent success. While I was in the job, I worked very

well

> and was one of the most productive engineers at the start-up.

That's

> what a good karana shows. All the big people at the company liked

me

> very much and I got along well with all. That, however, has

nothing

> to do with karana or vaara. That is seen from aakasa atttva

(ether).

>

> Look at aakasa tattva (binding). Yoga shows it. In the PictureTel

> chart, Sukarman yoga ruled by Mars was running. Mars is a

functional

> malefic for Ge lagna. He is in 3rd from 10th lord, but joins lagna

> lord. Overall, he is mixed and shows mixed results in networking

with

> people, interacting with people, getting along well and impressing

> people. It is mixed. Now, in the ThinkEngine chart, Siddha yoga

ruled

> by Ketu runs. Ketu is in a quadrant from lagna, trine from lagna

lord

> and quadrant from 10th lord. Exalted Ketu is excellently placed in

> the chart and the element of yoga is quite strong. This shows

> excellent binding principle. That is why I got along fine with all

> and impressed. However, despite all the strengths, weakness of

> weekday lord made it short-lived.

>

> In this manner, weekday lord and lords of the other four panchanga

> principles are used in prasna charts and muhurta charts by

> intelligent astrologers. Of course, they have use in other charts

> too, but they are particularly important in muhurta and prasna

charts.

>

> May Jupiter's light shine on us,

> PVR (aka Narasimha)

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Dear Narasimha,

 

That was a very interesting message. I've a basic doubt -- how does one

time the event of joining a company? Is it the time one enters the

office premises, the time one signs some official document, or when one

are allotted your desk/computer/phone/chair etc. This question has

been bothering me for a long time.

 

regards,

Krishna.

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A related question that has been bothering me a long time is: When does a

college or university begin, when a group of founders meet and agree on

starting a college, or when the first teaching begins?

 

Larry Ely

 

At 03:20 PM 10/21/02 +0530, you wrote:

>Dear Narasimha,

>

>That was a very interesting message. I've a basic doubt -- how does one

>time the event of joining a company? Is it the time one enters the

>office premises, the time one signs some official document, or when one

>are allotted your desk/computer/phone/chair etc. This question has

>been bothering me for a long time.

>

>regards,

>Krishna.

>

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>....... May Jupiter's light shine on us .......

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Larry,

 

Ask yourself these questions:

 

1. When is a baby born? When its parents begin its manufacture (not the right

word, I guess) or when it finally gets born?

2. When you go out and buy a car, which time is to be considered for its

auspiciousness? The time the car designers huddled around to conceive it, or

when the manufacture is completed, or when it lands in the showroom, or when

you actually pay the bucks for it?

3. When does a guy die? When his breath begin to fail him, or when he's born, or

when his parents meet to you-know-what, or when the bloke has breathed his last?

 

Most likely you'll have guessed the answer to your query by now.

 

Warm regards,

 

Ramapriya

hubli (AT) vsnl (DOT) com

 

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Larry Ely

vedic astrology

Monday, October 21, 2002 6:48 PM

Re: [vedic astrology] Importance of Weekday and Panchanga (Re: Tithi

Pravish and the day of the week.)

A related question that has been bothering me a long time is: When does

acollege or university begin, when a group of founders meet and agree

onstarting a college, or when the first teaching begins?Larry ElyAt 03:20 PM

10/21/02 +0530, you wrote:>Dear Narasimha,>>That was a very interesting

message. I've a basic doubt -- how does one >time the event of joining a

company? Is it the time one enters the >office premises, the time one signs

some official document, or when one >are allotted your

desk/computer/phone/chair etc. This question has >been bothering me for a

long time.>>regards,>Krishna.>>>>>Archives:

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Dear Ramapriya,

 

Isn't there a simpler answer to this question? As far as your example is

concerned, there is enough controversy about determining the correct

birth time.

 

 

regards,

Krishna.

 

Ramapriya D wrote:

> Larry,

>

> Ask yourself these questions:

>

> 1. When is a baby born? When its parents begin its manufacture (not the

> right word, I guess) or when it finally gets born?

> 2. When you go out and buy a car, which time is to be considered for its

> auspiciousness? The time the car designers huddled around to conceive

> it, or when the manufacture is completed, or when it lands in the

> showroom, or when you actually pay the bucks for it?

> 3. When does a guy die? When his breath begin to fail him, or when he's

> born, or when his parents meet to you-know-what, or when the bloke has

> breathed his last?

>

> Most likely you'll have guessed the answer to your query by now.

>

> Warm regards,

>

> Ramapriya

> hubli <hubli

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Dear Krishna,

 

Having devised the notion of "statutory time" in interpreting cricket law, which

notion I must confess has caught the delight and fancy of many a veteran umpire,

I don't think I could've actually replied Larry any more tenuously. But now that

you've dragged me into it...

 

Consider a non-astrological example: A shoots B on August 1, B dies after three

months on life support on November 1, and A is convicted of murder the

following May 1. When did the murder occur?

 

**** On May 1, when it is adjudged to be a murder, and we can safely call A a

murderer without being subjected to a libel action? This corresponds to the

opinion of those who consider the time of the wide as after the ball passes the

bowling crease and the Umpire judges it wide. Those who would say the murder

occurred on May 1 have corrupted "presumed innocent until proven guilty" into

"innocent until proven guilty".

 

**** On November 1, when all the conditions have been satisfied that determine

the crime of murder, because of the death of the victim? This corresponds to

the contention that a wide occurs when the evidence that it is a wide is

complete, when the ball actually passes out of the reach of the Batsman.

 

**** On August 1, when the shooting occurred? This corresponds to my implied

answer to Larry that a college comes into being when instituted as a, well,

institute. Simply put, at the time of its inauguration or whatever.

 

Now I don't know what the (criminal) law says about when the murder occurred,

but it is not absurd if it deems that the murder took place on August 1. I may

be wrong in saying that the college comes into being at the instant of the

inauguration, but I sincerely believe I'm not being absurd.

 

Sorry Krishna, but I can't give a simpler explanation

 

Warm regards,

 

Ramapriya

hubli (AT) vsnl (DOT) com

 

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Krishna Padmasola

vedic astrology

Monday, October 21, 2002 8:08 PM

Re: [vedic astrology] Importance of Weekday and Panchanga (Re: Tithi

Pravish and the day of the week.)

Dear Ramapriya,Isn't there a simpler answer to this question? As far as your

example is concerned, there is enough controversy about determining the correct

birth time.regards,Krishna.Ramapriya D wrote:> Larry,> > Ask yourself these

questions:> > 1. When is a baby born? When its parents begin its manufacture

(not the > right word, I guess) or when it finally gets born?> 2. When you go

out and buy a car, which time is to be considered for its > auspiciousness? The

time the car designers huddled around to conceive > it, or when the manufacture

is completed, or when it lands in the > showroom, or when you actually pay the

bucks for it?> 3. When does a guy die? When his breath begin to fail him, or

when he's > born, or when his parents meet to you-know-what, or when the bloke

has > breathed his last?> > Most likely you'll have guessed the answer to your

query by now.> > Warm regards,> > Ramapriya> hubli (AT) vsnl (DOT) com

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