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Dear Friends and Gurus,

 

I am a new member and forgive me and ignore this if

this has been repeated many times already.

 

Are there any exceptions to sade sati and is it true

that it can be beneficial if it is a benefic?

 

Warm Regards

Suresh

 

 

 

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For example it was debilitated in Aries recently where it can be the worst but

in Taurus its bad effects are lessened due to being in friends sign.

If it is yogakaraka its bad effects are lessened still.So there are several

factors to take into account.each individual chart has to be analysed

independently.

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Pranama,

Here in this group more or less majority of the list consider themself like

student. So feel friendly and frankly, dont forget that this a discussion

forum, where lots of topics often repeat. As far as Sad-Sati is concern, no

doubt many a times this was discussed in details.

Sad-Sati or the 7-1/2 years period of Satrun over natal Moon has many

significances. Shani is karma karak and Chandra is the name of our mental

state. (so whatever we have performed before, it has to pay/indisguise of

thinking during Sad-Sati) I will not go in detail to delineat the phala of

Sad-Sati, because we all know it very well. You have asked about the exception,

when Sad-Sati yields beneficial results. And it is observed as well that the

mentioned period of Sad-Sati sometimes gives sudden boost and stability in

career. The summary of few exceptions are as follows (dont forget it is my

personal opinion and observation, experts may have their own thought):

1) The rate of goodness/badness of Sad-Sati is directly propotional to strength

of Shani in natal chart. Shani in concrete position often yields stability and

maturity and makes one responsible of authority. Considerable amounts of shubh

bindus in A.V. also helps in this regard.

2) Natal Moon is in the sign of Venus (here Saturn seems yoga-karak and bound to

perform good), gives mixed results (bad only when it transits on 12th). If natal

Saturn is also powerful than it will not harm the native.

3) In case of Shuba-Durudhara Yoga (moon is hemmed in between natural benefics

but without affliction), bad effects of Sad-Sati will be reduced considerablly.

In other words nearness of shubh grah to natal moon gives unexpected help.

4) Similary in case of Adhi Yoga, ( natural benefics are in 6th, 7th and 8th

from natal moon but it should not be with or aspected by Nodes or Mars)

Sad-Sati gives a new venture with the help of others.

5) Silver Paya is sometimes proved helpful for material and mundane success.

Though Paya system has two approach, one is when gochar shani is ingressed

preceeding sign of natal moon, and second when gochar shani approaches position

45 degrees lesser than natal moon. Similarly vedha & latta could not be avoided.

 

6) Some opine that Sad-Sati during maha dasha of Shani can not harm the native

(but I did not check the validity of this notion so far)

Hope other members will share their own experiences and obervations.

Regards

M.Imran

suresh cavale <sureshcavale > wrote: Dear Friends and Gurus,I am a new

member and forgive me and ignore this ifthis has been repeated many times

already.Are there any exceptions to sade sati and is it truethat it can be

beneficial if it is a benefic?Warm Regards Suresh

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Namaste friends,

 

Natal Moon shows the mind. Influence of planetary transits on natal

Moon shows the forces that the mind is subjected to with changing

times.

 

But pay attention to natal Moon in divisional charts also. Moon in a

divisional chart shows mind from the point of view of a particular

area of life. Planetary transits (in rasi chart) with respect to

natal Moon in a divisional chart show the forces that one particular

aspect of mind is subjected to.

 

For example, Indian PM A.B. Vajpayee has Moon in Leo in rasi chart,

but in Capricorn in D-10. When Saturn was transiting in Pisces with

Sun and Mars, he became India's PM. Why did the 8th house transit of

these 3 malefics (especially Saturn) give him such power?

 

Note that Pisces is 3rd from Capricorn. So, from dasamsa Moon, all of

them have the 3rd house transit, which is very good.

 

Thus, pay attention to transits from rasi Moon, navamsa Moon and

dasamsa Moon. Suppose Saturn has 2nd house transit from rasi Moon,

8th house transit from navamsa Moon and 10th house transit from

dasamsa Moon simultaneously, you can be sure that there will be

obstacles all around. OTOH, if he has the 2nd house transit from rasi

Moon, 6th house transit from navamsa Moon and 3rd house transit from

dasamsa Moon, it will not be so bad. Career will be excellent and

marital life will be fine too.

 

Rasi is the most important chart as it shows the physical level, but

the divisional charts too are important.

 

Take US President George W Bush as another example. When he launched

attack on Afghanistan in October 2001, only Mercury in 2nd and Venus

in 12th had good transits from natal rasi Moon (Vi). All other

planets had bad transits as per the classical rules. It shows very

bad time at the physical level. But, at the professional level, six

out of nine planets had favorable transits from D-10 Moon in Sg,

including Saturn in 6th, Jupiter in 7th, Sun in 10th, Mercury in 11th

and Venus in 9th. His career was great then. Even those who ridiculed

him were impressed with him. He delivered well in his job.

 

Anyway, I'll leave it here. The bottomline is that divisional charts

have an important of their own, even in the interpretation of

transits. Give this some thought.

 

May Jupiter's light shine on us,

PVR (aka Narasimha)

 

PS: This is not my research, but the teaching of tradition passed on

to me by my guru.

 

PPS: For such gems on the practical use of divisional charts, try to

attend the Hyderabad seminar on divisional charts. Please go to

http://www..org/download/hyderabad.htm and register today.

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Respected Narsimhaji,

 

Can the sade sati effects can be considered for D-charts also...on sat's

transits w.r.t. moon positions in D-charts?

 

Regards,

 

dasgupta

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pvr108

vedic astrology

Sunday, October 13, 2002 1:27 AM

[vedic astrology] Re: Sade Sati

Namaste friends,Natal Moon shows the mind. Influence of planetary transits on

natal Moon shows the forces that the mind is subjected to with changing

times.But pay attention to natal Moon in divisional charts also. Moon in a

divisional chart shows mind from the point of view of a particular area of

life. Planetary transits (in rasi chart) with respect to natal Moon in a

divisional chart show the forces that one particular aspect of mind is

subjected to.For example, Indian PM A.B. Vajpayee has Moon in Leo in rasi

chart, but in Capricorn in D-10. When Saturn was transiting in Pisces with Sun

and Mars, he became India's PM. Why did the 8th house transit of these 3

malefics (especially Saturn) give him such power?Note that Pisces is 3rd from

Capricorn. So, from dasamsa Moon, all of them have the 3rd house transit, which

is very good.Thus, pay attention to transits from rasi Moon, navamsa Moon and

dasamsa Moon. Suppose Saturn has 2nd house transit from rasi Moon, 8th house

transit from navamsa Moon and 10th house transit from dasamsa Moon

simultaneously, you can be sure that there will be obstacles all around. OTOH,

if he has the 2nd house transit from rasi Moon, 6th house transit from navamsa

Moon and 3rd house transit from dasamsa Moon, it will not be so bad. Career

will be excellent and marital life will be fine too.Rasi is the most important

chart as it shows the physical level, but the divisional charts too are

important.Take US President George W Bush as another example. When he launched

attack on Afghanistan in October 2001, only Mercury in 2nd and Venus in 12th

had good transits from natal rasi Moon (Vi). All other planets had bad transits

as per the classical rules. It shows very bad time at the physical level. But,

at the professional level, six out of nine planets had favorable transits from

D-10 Moon in Sg, including Saturn in 6th, Jupiter in 7th, Sun in 10th, Mercury

in 11th and Venus in 9th. His career was great then. Even those who ridiculed

him were impressed with him. He delivered well in his job.Anyway, I'll leave it

here. The bottomline is that divisional charts have an important of their own,

even in the interpretation of transits. Give this some thought.May Jupiter's

light shine on us,PVR (aka Narasimha)PS: This is not my research, but the

teaching of tradition passed on to me by my guru.PPS: For such gems on the

practical use of divisional charts, try to attend the Hyderabad seminar on

divisional charts. Please go to

http://www..org/download/hyderabad.htm and register today.Archives:

vedic astrologyGroup info:

vedic astrology/info.htmlTo UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank

mail to vedic astrology-....... May Jupiter's light

shine on us .......

 

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Namaste,

 

That is essentially what I said. Rasi, navamsa and dasamsa are the

most important charts where the mental state matters a lot. Analyze

the transits of planets w.r.t. the sign occupied by Moon in these

charts.

 

May Jupiter's light shine on us,

PVR (Narasimha)

 

> Respected Narsimhaji,

>

> Can the sade sati effects can be considered for D-charts also...on

sat's transits w.r.t. moon positions in D-charts?

>

> Regards,

>

> dasgupta

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Should we compare the transits in rashi chart with the position of

Moon in divisional chart - OR- should we calculate the position of

planets in the divisional charts and then compare with the natal

divsional chart.

 

For example, right now, let us say, Saturn is in Gemini in d-1

chart. However, in d-10 chart, let us say it is in Leo. Should we

take Saturn in Gemini or Leo while comparing the transits in d10.

 

 

Shashank

 

 

vedic astrology, "pvr108" <pvr@c...> wrote:

> Namaste,

>

> That is essentially what I said. Rasi, navamsa and dasamsa are the

> most important charts where the mental state matters a lot.

Analyze

> the transits of planets w.r.t. the sign occupied by Moon in these

> charts.

>

> May Jupiter's light shine on us,

> PVR (Narasimha)

>

> > Respected Narsimhaji,

> >

> > Can the sade sati effects can be considered for D-charts

also...on

> sat's transits w.r.t. moon positions in D-charts?

> >

> > Regards,

> >

> > dasgupta

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Om Gurave Namah

 

Dear Shashank,

 

Take the moon's position in d-10 and from there count to saturn in Ge.

 

Regds

 

Hari

-

sgupta2269

vedic astrology

Sunday, October 13, 2002 9:57 PM

[vedic astrology] Re: Sade Sati

Should we compare the transits in rashi chart with the position of Moon in

divisional chart - OR- should we calculate the position of planets in the

divisional charts and then compare with the natal divsional chart.For example,

right now, let us say, Saturn is in Gemini in d-1 chart. However, in d-10

chart, let us say it is in Leo. Should we take Saturn in Gemini or Leo while

comparing the transits in d10.Shashankvedic astrology, "pvr108"

<pvr@c...> wrote:> Namaste,> > That is essentially what I said. Rasi, navamsa

and dasamsa are the > most important charts where the mental state matters a

lot. Analyze > the transits of planets w.r.t. the sign occupied by Moon in

these > charts.> > May Jupiter's light shine on us,> PVR (Narasimha)> > >

Respected Narsimhaji,> > > > Can the sade sati effects can be considered for

D-charts also...on > sat's transits w.r.t. moon positions in D-charts?> > > >

Regards,> > > > dasguptaArchives:

vedic astrologyGroup info:

vedic astrology/info.htmlTo UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank

mail to vedic astrology-....... May Jupiter's light

shine on us .......

 

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Thanks a lot Imran. I would also like to know the

effects of Sade sati when Saturn is a benefic like in

the case of a Taurus or Libra ascendant.

It is said that sade sati effects most when the

mahadasha is of moon is in progress. Does it hold good

in the above case when saturn is benefic. And what

will be the effect for a native with gajakesari yoga.

Gajakesari yoga is supposed to be beneficial. But will

it give effects when the benefic is saturn and jupiter

is now a malefic. Let me know.Thanks again!!!

Warm Regards

Suresh

--- Muhammad Imran <astroimran wrote:

>

> Dear Suresh,

> Pranama,

> Here in this group more or less majority of the list

> consider themself like student. So feel friendly and

> frankly, dont forget that this a discussion forum,

> where lots of topics often repeat. As far as

> Sad-Sati is concern, no doubt many a times this was

> discussed in details.

> Sad-Sati or the 7-1/2 years period of Satrun over

> natal Moon has many significances. Shani is karma

> karak and Chandra is the name of our mental state.

> (so whatever we have performed before, it has to

> pay/indisguise of thinking during Sad-Sati) I will

> not go in detail to delineat the phala of Sad-Sati,

> because we all know it very well. You have asked

> about the exception, when Sad-Sati yields beneficial

> results. And it is observed as well that the

> mentioned period of Sad-Sati sometimes gives sudden

> boost and stability in career. The summary of few

> exceptions are as follows (dont forget it is my

> personal opinion and observation, experts may have

> their own thought):

> 1) The rate of goodness/badness of Sad-Sati is

> directly propotional to strength of Shani in natal

> chart. Shani in concrete position often yields

> stability and maturity and makes one responsible of

> authority. Considerable amounts of shubh bindus in

> A.V. also helps in this regard.

> 2) Natal Moon is in the sign of Venus (here Saturn

> seems yoga-karak and bound to perform good), gives

> mixed results (bad only when it transits on 12th).

> If natal Saturn is also powerful than it will not

> harm the native.

> 3) In case of Shuba-Durudhara Yoga (moon is hemmed

> in between natural benefics but without affliction),

> bad effects of Sad-Sati will be reduced

> considerablly. In other words nearness of shubh grah

> to natal moon gives unexpected help.

> 4) Similary in case of Adhi Yoga, ( natural benefics

> are in 6th, 7th and 8th from natal moon but it

> should not be with or aspected by Nodes or Mars)

> Sad-Sati gives a new venture with the help of

> others.

> 5) Silver Paya is sometimes proved helpful for

> material and mundane success. Though Paya system has

> two approach, one is when gochar shani is ingressed

> preceeding sign of natal moon, and second when

> gochar shani approaches position 45 degrees lesser

> than natal moon. Similarly vedha & latta could not

> be avoided.

> 6) Some opine that Sad-Sati during maha dasha of

> Shani can not harm the native (but I did not check

> the validity of this notion so far)

> Hope other members will share their own experiences

> and obervations.

> Regards

> M.Imran

> suresh cavale <sureshcavale wrote:

> Dear Friends and Gurus,

>

> I am a new member and forgive me and ignore this if

> this has been repeated many times already.

>

> Are there any exceptions to sade sati and is it true

> that it can be beneficial if it is a benefic?

>

> Warm Regards

> Suresh

>

>

>

>

>

>

> Faith Hill - Exclusive Performances, Videos, & more

> faith.

 

 

 

 

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