Guest guest Posted October 10, 2002 Report Share Posted October 10, 2002 Dear Friends and Gurus, I am a new member and forgive me and ignore this if this has been repeated many times already. Are there any exceptions to sade sati and is it true that it can be beneficial if it is a benefic? Warm Regards Suresh Faith Hill - Exclusive Performances, Videos & More http://faith. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 10, 2002 Report Share Posted October 10, 2002 For example it was debilitated in Aries recently where it can be the worst but in Taurus its bad effects are lessened due to being in friends sign. If it is yogakaraka its bad effects are lessened still.So there are several factors to take into account.each individual chart has to be analysed independently. Regards.......Hanna Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 12, 2002 Report Share Posted October 12, 2002 Pranama, Here in this group more or less majority of the list consider themself like student. So feel friendly and frankly, dont forget that this a discussion forum, where lots of topics often repeat. As far as Sad-Sati is concern, no doubt many a times this was discussed in details. Sad-Sati or the 7-1/2 years period of Satrun over natal Moon has many significances. Shani is karma karak and Chandra is the name of our mental state. (so whatever we have performed before, it has to pay/indisguise of thinking during Sad-Sati) I will not go in detail to delineat the phala of Sad-Sati, because we all know it very well. You have asked about the exception, when Sad-Sati yields beneficial results. And it is observed as well that the mentioned period of Sad-Sati sometimes gives sudden boost and stability in career. The summary of few exceptions are as follows (dont forget it is my personal opinion and observation, experts may have their own thought): 1) The rate of goodness/badness of Sad-Sati is directly propotional to strength of Shani in natal chart. Shani in concrete position often yields stability and maturity and makes one responsible of authority. Considerable amounts of shubh bindus in A.V. also helps in this regard. 2) Natal Moon is in the sign of Venus (here Saturn seems yoga-karak and bound to perform good), gives mixed results (bad only when it transits on 12th). If natal Saturn is also powerful than it will not harm the native. 3) In case of Shuba-Durudhara Yoga (moon is hemmed in between natural benefics but without affliction), bad effects of Sad-Sati will be reduced considerablly. In other words nearness of shubh grah to natal moon gives unexpected help. 4) Similary in case of Adhi Yoga, ( natural benefics are in 6th, 7th and 8th from natal moon but it should not be with or aspected by Nodes or Mars) Sad-Sati gives a new venture with the help of others. 5) Silver Paya is sometimes proved helpful for material and mundane success. Though Paya system has two approach, one is when gochar shani is ingressed preceeding sign of natal moon, and second when gochar shani approaches position 45 degrees lesser than natal moon. Similarly vedha & latta could not be avoided. 6) Some opine that Sad-Sati during maha dasha of Shani can not harm the native (but I did not check the validity of this notion so far) Hope other members will share their own experiences and obervations. Regards M.Imran suresh cavale <sureshcavale > wrote: Dear Friends and Gurus,I am a new member and forgive me and ignore this ifthis has been repeated many times already.Are there any exceptions to sade sati and is it truethat it can be beneficial if it is a benefic?Warm Regards Suresh Faith Hill - Exclusive Performances, Videos, &; more faith. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 12, 2002 Report Share Posted October 12, 2002 Namaste friends, Natal Moon shows the mind. Influence of planetary transits on natal Moon shows the forces that the mind is subjected to with changing times. But pay attention to natal Moon in divisional charts also. Moon in a divisional chart shows mind from the point of view of a particular area of life. Planetary transits (in rasi chart) with respect to natal Moon in a divisional chart show the forces that one particular aspect of mind is subjected to. For example, Indian PM A.B. Vajpayee has Moon in Leo in rasi chart, but in Capricorn in D-10. When Saturn was transiting in Pisces with Sun and Mars, he became India's PM. Why did the 8th house transit of these 3 malefics (especially Saturn) give him such power? Note that Pisces is 3rd from Capricorn. So, from dasamsa Moon, all of them have the 3rd house transit, which is very good. Thus, pay attention to transits from rasi Moon, navamsa Moon and dasamsa Moon. Suppose Saturn has 2nd house transit from rasi Moon, 8th house transit from navamsa Moon and 10th house transit from dasamsa Moon simultaneously, you can be sure that there will be obstacles all around. OTOH, if he has the 2nd house transit from rasi Moon, 6th house transit from navamsa Moon and 3rd house transit from dasamsa Moon, it will not be so bad. Career will be excellent and marital life will be fine too. Rasi is the most important chart as it shows the physical level, but the divisional charts too are important. Take US President George W Bush as another example. When he launched attack on Afghanistan in October 2001, only Mercury in 2nd and Venus in 12th had good transits from natal rasi Moon (Vi). All other planets had bad transits as per the classical rules. It shows very bad time at the physical level. But, at the professional level, six out of nine planets had favorable transits from D-10 Moon in Sg, including Saturn in 6th, Jupiter in 7th, Sun in 10th, Mercury in 11th and Venus in 9th. His career was great then. Even those who ridiculed him were impressed with him. He delivered well in his job. Anyway, I'll leave it here. The bottomline is that divisional charts have an important of their own, even in the interpretation of transits. Give this some thought. May Jupiter's light shine on us, PVR (aka Narasimha) PS: This is not my research, but the teaching of tradition passed on to me by my guru. PPS: For such gems on the practical use of divisional charts, try to attend the Hyderabad seminar on divisional charts. Please go to http://www..org/download/hyderabad.htm and register today. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 13, 2002 Report Share Posted October 13, 2002 Respected Narsimhaji, Can the sade sati effects can be considered for D-charts also...on sat's transits w.r.t. moon positions in D-charts? Regards, dasgupta - pvr108 vedic astrology Sunday, October 13, 2002 1:27 AM [vedic astrology] Re: Sade Sati Namaste friends,Natal Moon shows the mind. Influence of planetary transits on natal Moon shows the forces that the mind is subjected to with changing times.But pay attention to natal Moon in divisional charts also. Moon in a divisional chart shows mind from the point of view of a particular area of life. Planetary transits (in rasi chart) with respect to natal Moon in a divisional chart show the forces that one particular aspect of mind is subjected to.For example, Indian PM A.B. Vajpayee has Moon in Leo in rasi chart, but in Capricorn in D-10. When Saturn was transiting in Pisces with Sun and Mars, he became India's PM. Why did the 8th house transit of these 3 malefics (especially Saturn) give him such power?Note that Pisces is 3rd from Capricorn. So, from dasamsa Moon, all of them have the 3rd house transit, which is very good.Thus, pay attention to transits from rasi Moon, navamsa Moon and dasamsa Moon. Suppose Saturn has 2nd house transit from rasi Moon, 8th house transit from navamsa Moon and 10th house transit from dasamsa Moon simultaneously, you can be sure that there will be obstacles all around. OTOH, if he has the 2nd house transit from rasi Moon, 6th house transit from navamsa Moon and 3rd house transit from dasamsa Moon, it will not be so bad. Career will be excellent and marital life will be fine too.Rasi is the most important chart as it shows the physical level, but the divisional charts too are important.Take US President George W Bush as another example. When he launched attack on Afghanistan in October 2001, only Mercury in 2nd and Venus in 12th had good transits from natal rasi Moon (Vi). All other planets had bad transits as per the classical rules. It shows very bad time at the physical level. But, at the professional level, six out of nine planets had favorable transits from D-10 Moon in Sg, including Saturn in 6th, Jupiter in 7th, Sun in 10th, Mercury in 11th and Venus in 9th. His career was great then. Even those who ridiculed him were impressed with him. He delivered well in his job.Anyway, I'll leave it here. The bottomline is that divisional charts have an important of their own, even in the interpretation of transits. Give this some thought.May Jupiter's light shine on us,PVR (aka Narasimha)PS: This is not my research, but the teaching of tradition passed on to me by my guru.PPS: For such gems on the practical use of divisional charts, try to attend the Hyderabad seminar on divisional charts. Please go to http://www..org/download/hyderabad.htm and register today.Archives: vedic astrologyGroup info: vedic astrology/info.htmlTo UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology-....... May Jupiter's light shine on us ....... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 13, 2002 Report Share Posted October 13, 2002 Namaste, That is essentially what I said. Rasi, navamsa and dasamsa are the most important charts where the mental state matters a lot. Analyze the transits of planets w.r.t. the sign occupied by Moon in these charts. May Jupiter's light shine on us, PVR (Narasimha) > Respected Narsimhaji, > > Can the sade sati effects can be considered for D-charts also...on sat's transits w.r.t. moon positions in D-charts? > > Regards, > > dasgupta Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 13, 2002 Report Share Posted October 13, 2002 Should we compare the transits in rashi chart with the position of Moon in divisional chart - OR- should we calculate the position of planets in the divisional charts and then compare with the natal divsional chart. For example, right now, let us say, Saturn is in Gemini in d-1 chart. However, in d-10 chart, let us say it is in Leo. Should we take Saturn in Gemini or Leo while comparing the transits in d10. Shashank vedic astrology, "pvr108" <pvr@c...> wrote: > Namaste, > > That is essentially what I said. Rasi, navamsa and dasamsa are the > most important charts where the mental state matters a lot. Analyze > the transits of planets w.r.t. the sign occupied by Moon in these > charts. > > May Jupiter's light shine on us, > PVR (Narasimha) > > > Respected Narsimhaji, > > > > Can the sade sati effects can be considered for D-charts also...on > sat's transits w.r.t. moon positions in D-charts? > > > > Regards, > > > > dasgupta Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 13, 2002 Report Share Posted October 13, 2002 Om Gurave Namah Dear Shashank, Take the moon's position in d-10 and from there count to saturn in Ge. Regds Hari - sgupta2269 vedic astrology Sunday, October 13, 2002 9:57 PM [vedic astrology] Re: Sade Sati Should we compare the transits in rashi chart with the position of Moon in divisional chart - OR- should we calculate the position of planets in the divisional charts and then compare with the natal divsional chart.For example, right now, let us say, Saturn is in Gemini in d-1 chart. However, in d-10 chart, let us say it is in Leo. Should we take Saturn in Gemini or Leo while comparing the transits in d10.Shashankvedic astrology, "pvr108" <pvr@c...> wrote:> Namaste,> > That is essentially what I said. Rasi, navamsa and dasamsa are the > most important charts where the mental state matters a lot. Analyze > the transits of planets w.r.t. the sign occupied by Moon in these > charts.> > May Jupiter's light shine on us,> PVR (Narasimha)> > > Respected Narsimhaji,> > > > Can the sade sati effects can be considered for D-charts also...on > sat's transits w.r.t. moon positions in D-charts?> > > > Regards,> > > > dasguptaArchives: vedic astrologyGroup info: vedic astrology/info.htmlTo UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology-....... May Jupiter's light shine on us ....... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 15, 2002 Report Share Posted October 15, 2002 Thanks a lot Imran. I would also like to know the effects of Sade sati when Saturn is a benefic like in the case of a Taurus or Libra ascendant. It is said that sade sati effects most when the mahadasha is of moon is in progress. Does it hold good in the above case when saturn is benefic. And what will be the effect for a native with gajakesari yoga. Gajakesari yoga is supposed to be beneficial. But will it give effects when the benefic is saturn and jupiter is now a malefic. Let me know.Thanks again!!! Warm Regards Suresh --- Muhammad Imran <astroimran wrote: > > Dear Suresh, > Pranama, > Here in this group more or less majority of the list > consider themself like student. So feel friendly and > frankly, dont forget that this a discussion forum, > where lots of topics often repeat. As far as > Sad-Sati is concern, no doubt many a times this was > discussed in details. > Sad-Sati or the 7-1/2 years period of Satrun over > natal Moon has many significances. Shani is karma > karak and Chandra is the name of our mental state. > (so whatever we have performed before, it has to > pay/indisguise of thinking during Sad-Sati) I will > not go in detail to delineat the phala of Sad-Sati, > because we all know it very well. You have asked > about the exception, when Sad-Sati yields beneficial > results. And it is observed as well that the > mentioned period of Sad-Sati sometimes gives sudden > boost and stability in career. The summary of few > exceptions are as follows (dont forget it is my > personal opinion and observation, experts may have > their own thought): > 1) The rate of goodness/badness of Sad-Sati is > directly propotional to strength of Shani in natal > chart. Shani in concrete position often yields > stability and maturity and makes one responsible of > authority. Considerable amounts of shubh bindus in > A.V. also helps in this regard. > 2) Natal Moon is in the sign of Venus (here Saturn > seems yoga-karak and bound to perform good), gives > mixed results (bad only when it transits on 12th). > If natal Saturn is also powerful than it will not > harm the native. > 3) In case of Shuba-Durudhara Yoga (moon is hemmed > in between natural benefics but without affliction), > bad effects of Sad-Sati will be reduced > considerablly. In other words nearness of shubh grah > to natal moon gives unexpected help. > 4) Similary in case of Adhi Yoga, ( natural benefics > are in 6th, 7th and 8th from natal moon but it > should not be with or aspected by Nodes or Mars) > Sad-Sati gives a new venture with the help of > others. > 5) Silver Paya is sometimes proved helpful for > material and mundane success. Though Paya system has > two approach, one is when gochar shani is ingressed > preceeding sign of natal moon, and second when > gochar shani approaches position 45 degrees lesser > than natal moon. Similarly vedha & latta could not > be avoided. > 6) Some opine that Sad-Sati during maha dasha of > Shani can not harm the native (but I did not check > the validity of this notion so far) > Hope other members will share their own experiences > and obervations. > Regards > M.Imran > suresh cavale <sureshcavale wrote: > Dear Friends and Gurus, > > I am a new member and forgive me and ignore this if > this has been repeated many times already. > > Are there any exceptions to sade sati and is it true > that it can be beneficial if it is a benefic? > > Warm Regards > Suresh > > > > > > > Faith Hill - Exclusive Performances, Videos, & more > faith. Faith Hill - Exclusive Performances, Videos & More http://faith. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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