Guest guest Posted October 9, 2002 Report Share Posted October 9, 2002 People, There is some contention surrounding the true horoscope of Lula, the Brazilian candidate who is just about to be elected to president. The two possibilites involve Libra or Virgo. Here is what I have found: I've been searching for some event in Lula's chart which might define his rising sign one way or the other, and I seem to have come upon some ideas. Please consider. First point: First point: In 1952 he migrated to São Paulo with his mother. His father had gone ahead a year or two before to work and send money, but he quit sending money at one point and they lost contact with him. He had found another woman. This means that prior, in around 1950 or 1951, he had been separated from and abandoned by his father. Such drastic karma in relation to his father would not be possible in the Libra chart because in the Libra chart, the lord of the house of father occupies the ascendent with a Sun that receives a good bit of cancellation of debilitation. Even the aspect of Mars is not so bad, Mars owns a quadrant and a neutral house. Why would he have such a drastically bad result in terms of the father karma if both significators representing the father are in the ascendent? Second point: In the Libra chart, during the Mercury-Saturn sub period, his mother passed away while he was in jail for political reasons. Mercury can be construed as a maraka for themother from Libra or from Virgo, so looking at Mercury is not going to help us. But why would Saturn as the lord of the house of mother, aspecting that house as an unsullied yogakaraka, cause her death? Saturn is the planet of longevity and, when favorable, helps to promote longevity. She should not at all have passed away during Saturn's sub period- anything but! Third point: Why would he be in jail during Mercury-Saturn. Mercury owns and evil house, ok. And Saturn is the planet of imprisonment, but not when he is a yogakaraka forming raj yoga in the tenth while aspecting his own sign. And finally, his education stopped when he was 12 years old. He had to work to help his mother. this was during Saturn-Mars or Saturn-Rahu. why would Saturn, the lord of the house of education, yoga karaka, forming raj yoga while aspecting his own sign in the house of education, cause such an extreme result? And neither possible sub period lord, neither Mars nor Rahu, are so awful in terms of education. I know that Jupiter sits in the house of loss, but he aspectsthe house of education from there, so the placement is not so bad in terms of education. I have given four good reasons why the Libra chart does not correspond to Lula's life. I will send a similar analysis comparing these life events to the Virgo chart. Dharma/Dean Attachment: (image/jpeg) LulaLibra.jpg [not stored] Attachment: (image/jpeg) LulaLibPer.jpg [not stored] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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