Guest guest Posted September 19, 2002 Report Share Posted September 19, 2002 Om Gurave Namah Dear Rama, Thanks for the mail. I'll try to answer of what little i know. Am sure Guru's and learned members will help us out. 1. What's the significance of karta in a chart?Karta by definition means doer or a person who acts This is funny. In Kannada (my local language), karta roughly translates to an undertaker!! For example, should I die and should he light my pyre, my son would be called karta. In any case, my question still remains. What's his significance? I mean, the karta of a horoscope does *what*? Karta is a doer. He is the person who brings in benefits (materialistically or otherwise) during his periods or sub-periods. 2. Again, you've left it tantalizingly just short. After considering the ownership, then what? If Saturn is in Pisces aspecting the Virgo asc, how do I interpret what the karta does, seeing his mtk that happens to be a trik-cum-upachaya? Saturn aspecting lagna does qualifies him to be a karta. Of what little i know, saturn will bring in benefits. For example if saturn would have been a yogada, then his benefits would have been greater than saturn just being the karta. In other words, Yogada gives more, karta the least in that order. 3.No I meant whether there can be different kartas for the different lagnas in the same chart. I had written that karta is that any planet who conjoins or owns or aspects lagna OR HL OR GL. This by itself means that there can be many karta's in a chart. For example in your chart Lagna lord is Sun. He is a karta. At the same time Sun conjoins GL. He is a Yogada. Merc the lord of GL conjons Sun. Merc is a yogada. Merc is the lord of GL, so he is a karta too.! In essence i guess is the periods of yogada, karta etc bring in success to the native. Regds Hari. vedic astrology, Ramapriya D <ramapriya_d> wrote:> > Dear Hari,> Katti Narahari wrote:Om Gurave Namah> > Dear Rama, Let me attempt this. My comments in Red Below- ramapriya_d To: vedic astrology Wednesday, September 18, 2002 10:17 PMSubject: [vedic astrology] Some info on karta required> Hi,> > I've a few questions on karta:> > 1. What's the significance of karta in a chart?Karta by definition means doer or a person who acts This is funny. In Kannada (my local language), karta roughly translates to an undertaker!! For example, should I die and should he light my pyre, my son would be called karta. In any case, my question still remains. What's his significance? I mean, the karta of a horoscope does *what*?> > > 2. Can there be different kartas for the Hora, Ghatika and Janma > lagna, or is the karta for a chart?> Any planet that conjoins / aspects lagna, OR Hora Lagna OR Ghatika Lagna qualifies to be a karta. Apart from aspects (Rasi aspects only) and conjuntion, ownership is to be considered too. Again, you've left it tantalizingly just short. After considering the ownership, then what? If Saturn is in Pisces aspecting the Virgo asc, how do I interpret what the karta does, seeing his mtk that happens to be a trik-cum-upachaya?> > 3. If more than one planet aspects/conjoins either of the 3 special > ascendants, does the one with the highest longitude get to be karta? I assume you are talking of Yogada. If so, Any planet who conjoins/aspects/owns HL AND lagna OR GL and Lagna is a yogada. Yogada means the planet who gives a yoga in a horoscope. This way you can have more than one yogada as long as the planet fulfills the above condition(s). Thus checking longitudes are out of the question. No I meant whether there can be different kartas for the different lagnas in the same chart. I'd appreciate it if some guru spends a few minutes on this.> > Ramapriya> hubli@v... i am correct and this helps. Regds Hari Warm regards, Ramapriyahubli@v...> > > > > Archives: vedic astrology> > Group info: vedic astrology/info.html> > To UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology-@e...> > ....... May Jupiter's light shine on us .......> > > > Your use of is subject to the > > Groups Sponsor> > Archives: vedic astrology> > Group info: vedic astrology/info.html> > To UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology-@e...> > ....... May Jupiter's light shine on us .......> > > > Your use of is subject to the > > > > > > New DSL Internet Access from SBC & Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 19, 2002 Report Share Posted September 19, 2002 Your view, that a karta will always do good to the native, is thought-provoking. I know I'm driving blind here but something tells me not to agree with that just yet. Despite the absence of specific literature with me to prove/disprove myself, I think that by virtue of its placement, a karta will do its stuff, i.e. if it's a functional malefic, it'll be successful in creating trouble. I think it's some kind of positional advantage to affect the native's self in either a good or bad way, depending on the lordship. Moreover, why would Saturn, Mercury and Mars all have their marana sthanas at angles from the lagna? If Saturn is in the ascendant for a Taurean, I can't see how he'll do good to the native while destroying the effects of the 9th and 10th houses! There must be a little more about this than meets my eye yet. Warm regards, Ramahubli (AT) vsnl (DOT) com PS: So the 'undertaker' version of karta is correct then, huh? Katti Narahari wrote: Om Gurave Namah Dear Rama, Thanks for the mail. I'll try to answer of what little i know. Am sure Guru's and learned members will help us out. 1. What's the significance of karta in a chart?Karta by definition means doer or a person who acts This is funny. In Kannada (my local language), karta roughly translates to an undertaker!! For example, should I die and should he light my pyre, my son would be called karta. In any case, my question still remains. What's his significance? I mean, the karta of a horoscope does *what*? Karta is a doer. He is the person who brings in benefits (materialistically or otherwise) during his periods or sub-periods. 2. Again, you've left it tantalizingly just short. After considering the ownership, then what? If Saturn is in Pisces aspecting the Virgo asc, how do I interpret what the karta does, seeing his mtk that happens to be a trik-cum-upachaya? Saturn aspecting lagna does qualifies him to be a karta. Of what little i know, saturn will bring in benefits. For example if saturn would have been a yogada, then his benefits would have been greater than saturn just being the karta. In other words, Yogada gives more, karta the least in that order. 3.No I meant whether there can be different kartas for the different lagnas in the same chart. I had written that karta is that any planet who conjoins or owns or aspects lagna OR HL OR GL. This by itself means that there can be many karta's in a chart. For example in your chart Lagna lord is Sun. He is a karta. At the same time Sun conjoins GL. He is a Yogada. Merc the lord of GL conjons Sun. Merc is a yogada. Merc is the lord of GL, so he is a karta too.! In essence i guess is the periods of yogada, karta etc bring in success to the native. Regds Hari. vedic astrology, Ramapriya D <ramapriya_d> wrote:> > Dear Hari,> Katti Narahari wrote:Om Gurave Namah> > Dear Rama, Let me attempt this. My comments in Red Below- ramapriya_d To: vedic astrology Wednesday, September 18, 2002 10:17 PMSubject: [vedic astrology] Some info on karta required> Hi,> > I've a few questions on karta:> > 1. What's the significance of karta in a chart?Karta by definition means doer or a person who acts This is funny. In Kannada (my local language), karta roughly translates to an undertaker!! For example, should I die and should he light my pyre, my son would be called karta. In any case, my question still remains. What's his significance? I mean, the karta of a horoscope does *what*?> > > 2. Can there be different kartas for the Hora, Ghatika and Janma > lagna, or is the karta for a chart?> Any planet that conjoins / aspects lagna, OR Hora Lagna OR Ghatika Lagna qualifies to be a karta. Apart from aspects (Rasi aspects only) and conjuntion, ownership is to be considered too. Again, you've left it tantalizingly just short. After considering the ownership, then what? If Saturn is in Pisces aspecting the Virgo asc, how do I interpret what the karta does, seeing his mtk that happens to be a trik-cum-upachaya?> > 3. If more than one planet aspects/conjoins either of the 3 special > ascendants, does the one with the highest longitude get to be karta? I assume you are talking of Yogada. If so, Any planet who conjoins/aspects/owns HL AND lagna OR GL and Lagna is a yogada. Yogada means the planet who gives a yoga in a horoscope. This way you can have more than one yogada as long as the planet fulfills the above condition(s). Thus checking longitudes are out of the question. No I meant whether there can be different kartas for the different lagnas in the same chart. I'd appreciate it if some guru spends a few minutes on this.> > Ramapriya> hubli@v... i am correct and this helps. Regds Hari Warm regards, Ramapriyahubli@v...> > > > > Archives: vedic astrology> > Group info: vedic astrology/info.html> > To UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology-@e...> > ....... May Jupiter's light shine on us .......> > > > Your use of is subject to the > > Groups Sponsor> > Archives: vedic astrology> > Group info: vedic astrology/info.html> > To UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology-@e...> > ....... May Jupiter's light shine on us .......> > > > Your use of is subject to the > > > > > > New DSL Internet Access from SBC & Archives: vedic astrologyGroup info: vedic astrology/info.htmlTo UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology-....... May Jupiter's light shine on us ....... Do you ? New DSL Internet Access from SBC &; Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 19, 2002 Report Share Posted September 19, 2002 Vyam Vyaasadevaaya Namah Dear Ramapriya & Hari, When a planet associates with Hora Lagna or Ghati Lagna, that planet will bring wealth and power, respectively. How it does so is a different subject, but it will bring the wealth and power. If the same planet associates with the Lagna as well, then the native will recieve this wealth/power. Best wishes, Visti. - Ramapriya D vedic astrology Thursday, September 19, 2002 11:53 AM Re: Re. [vedic astrology] Some info on karta required Dear Hari, Your view, that a karta will always do good to the native, is thought-provoking. I know I'm driving blind here but something tells me not to agree with that just yet. Despite the absence of specific literature with me to prove/disprove myself, I think that by virtue of its placement, a karta will do its stuff, i.e. if it's a functional malefic, it'll be successful in creating trouble. I think it's some kind of positional advantage to affect the native's self in either a good or bad way, depending on the lordship. Moreover, why would Saturn, Mercury and Mars all have their marana sthanas at angles from the lagna? If Saturn is in the ascendant for a Taurean, I can't see how he'll do good to the native while destroying the effects of the 9th and 10th houses! There must be a little more about this than meets my eye yet. Warm regards, Ramahubli (AT) vsnl (DOT) com PS: So the 'undertaker' version of karta is correct then, huh? Katti Narahari wrote: Om Gurave Namah Dear Rama, Thanks for the mail. I'll try to answer of what little i know. Am sure Guru's and learned members will help us out. 1. What's the significance of karta in a chart?Karta by definition means doer or a person who acts This is funny. In Kannada (my local language), karta roughly translates to an undertaker!! For example, should I die and should he light my pyre, my son would be called karta. In any case, my question still remains. What's his significance? I mean, the karta of a horoscope does *what*? Karta is a doer. He is the person who brings in benefits (materialistically or otherwise) during his periods or sub-periods. 2. Again, you've left it tantalizingly just short. After considering the ownership, then what? If Saturn is in Pisces aspecting the Virgo asc, how do I interpret what the karta does, seeing his mtk that happens to be a trik-cum-upachaya? Saturn aspecting lagna does qualifies him to be a karta. Of what little i know, saturn will bring in benefits. For example if saturn would have been a yogada, then his benefits would have been greater than saturn just being the karta. In other words, Yogada gives more, karta the least in that order. 3.No I meant whether there can be different kartas for the different lagnas in the same chart. I had written that karta is that any planet who conjoins or owns or aspects lagna OR HL OR GL. This by itself means that there can be many karta's in a chart. For example in your chart Lagna lord is Sun. He is a karta. At the same time Sun conjoins GL. He is a Yogada. Merc the lord of GL conjons Sun. Merc is a yogada. Merc is the lord of GL, so he is a karta too.! In essence i guess is the periods of yogada, karta etc bring in success to the native. Regds Hari. vedic astrology, Ramapriya D <ramapriya_d> wrote:> > Dear Hari,> Katti Narahari wrote:Om Gurave Namah> > Dear Rama, Let me attempt this. My comments in Red Below- ramapriya_d To: vedic astrology Wednesday, September 18, 2002 10:17 PMSubject: [vedic astrology] Some info on karta required> Hi,> > I've a few questions on karta:> > 1. What's the significance of karta in a chart?Karta by definition means doer or a person who acts This is funny. In Kannada (my local language), karta roughly translates to an undertaker!! For example, should I die and should he light my pyre, my son would be called karta. In any case, my question still remains. What's his significance? I mean, the karta of a horoscope does *what*?> > > 2. Can there be different kartas for the Hora, Ghatika and Janma > lagna, or is the karta for a chart?> Any planet that conjoins / aspects lagna, OR Hora Lagna OR Ghatika Lagna qualifies to be a karta. Apart from aspects (Rasi aspects only) and conjuntion, ownership is to be considered too. Again, you've left it tantalizingly just short. After considering the ownership, then what? If Saturn is in Pisces aspecting the Virgo asc, how do I interpret what the karta does, seeing his mtk that happens to be a trik-cum-upachaya?> > 3. If more than one planet aspects/conjoins either of the 3 special > ascendants, does the one with the highest longitude get to be karta? I assume you are talking of Yogada. If so, Any planet who conjoins/aspects/owns HL AND lagna OR GL and Lagna is a yogada. Yogada means the planet who gives a yoga in a horoscope. This way you can have more than one yogada as long as the planet fulfills the above co ndition(s). Thus checking longitudes are out of the question. No I meant whether there can be different kartas for the different lagnas in the same chart. I'd appreciate it if some guru spends a few minutes on this.> > Ramapriya> hubli@v... i am correct and this helps. Regds Hari Warm regards, Ramapriyahubli@v...> > > > > Archives: vedic astrology> > Group info: vedic astrology/info.html> > To UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology-@e...> > ....... May Jupiter's light shine on us .......> > || Om Tat Sat || Sarvam Sri Krishnaarpanamastu &n bsp; || > > > > Sponsor> > Archives: vedic astrology> > Group info: vedic astrology/info.html> > To UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology-@e...> > ....... 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Guest guest Posted September 19, 2002 Report Share Posted September 19, 2002 Om Gurave Namah Namaste Friends, If the lords of lagna, GL, and HL are in conjunction or in mutual aspect with one another and with AL, do all of them qualify as kartas / yogadas? Regards, Lakshmi vedic astrology, "Visti Larsen" <vishnu@l...> wrote: > Vyam Vyaasadevaaya Namah > > -- ------------ > > Dear Ramapriya & Hari, > When a planet associates with Hora Lagna or Ghati Lagna, that planet will bring wealth and power, respectively. How it does so is a different subject, but it will bring the wealth and power. > If the same planet associates with the Lagna as well, then the native will recieve this wealth/power. > > Best wishes, Visti. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 19, 2002 Report Share Posted September 19, 2002 Om Gurave Namah Dear Lakshmi, If a planet conjoins/aspects lagna, GL and HL it becomes a maha yogada. Am not sure if this is still true with respect to AL though. Regds Hari - b_lakshmi_ramesh vedic astrology Thursday, September 19, 2002 5:36 PM Re: Re. [vedic astrology] Some info on karta required Om Gurave NamahNamaste Friends,If the lords of lagna, GL, and HL are in conjunction or in mutual aspect with one another and with AL, do all of them qualify as kartas / yogadas?Regards,Lakshmi vedic astrology, "Visti Larsen" <vishnu@l...> wrote:> Vyam Vyaasadevaaya Namah> > --> > Dear Ramapriya & Hari,> When a planet associates with Hora Lagna or Ghati Lagna, that planet will bring wealth and power, respectively. How it does so is a different subject, but it will bring the wealth and power. > If the same planet associates with the Lagna as well, then the native will recieve this wealth/power.> > Best wishes, Visti.> Archives: vedic astrologyGroup info: vedic astrology/info.htmlTo UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology-....... May Jupiter's light shine on us ....... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 19, 2002 Report Share Posted September 19, 2002 Hi Lakshmi, Afaik, the aspect or conjunction must be with reference to the lagnas. I don't think mutual peeking would elevate them to yogadas; they gotta aspect the lagnas themselves. Just my opinion. Warm regards, Ramapriya hubli vedic astrology, "b_lakshmi_ramesh" <b_lakshmi_ramesh> wrote: > Om Gurave Namah > > Namaste Friends, > > If the lords of lagna, GL, and HL are in conjunction or in mutual > aspect with one another and with AL, do all of them qualify as > kartas / yogadas? > > Regards, > Lakshmi > > > vedic astrology, "Visti Larsen" <vishnu@l...> wrote: > > Vyam Vyaasadevaaya Namah > > > > -------------------------------- --- > ------------ > > > > Dear Ramapriya & Hari, > > When a planet associates with Hora Lagna or Ghati Lagna, that > planet will bring wealth and power, respectively. How it does so is a > different subject, but it will bring the wealth and power. > > If the same planet associates with the Lagna as well, then the > native will recieve this wealth/power. > > > > Best wishes, Visti. > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 19, 2002 Report Share Posted September 19, 2002 Om Gurave Namah Hi Ramapriya, what if the conjunction of lagna+GL lords is in lagna and it is aspected by HL lord placed in AL? Regards, Lakshmi vedic astrology, "ramapriya_d" <ramapriya_d> wrote: > Hi Lakshmi, > > Afaik, the aspect or conjunction must be with reference to the > lagnas. I don't think mutual peeking would elevate them to yogadas; > they gotta aspect the lagnas themselves. > > Just my opinion. > > Warm regards, > > Ramapriya > hubli@v... > > vedic astrology, "b_lakshmi_ramesh" > <b_lakshmi_ramesh> wrote: > > Om Gurave Namah > > > > Namaste Friends, > > > > If the lords of lagna, GL, and HL are in conjunction or in mutual > > aspect with one another and with AL, do all of them qualify as > > kartas / yogadas? > > > > Regards, > > Lakshmi > > > > > > vedic astrology, "Visti Larsen" <vishnu@l...> wrote: > > > Vyam Vyaasadevaaya Namah > > > > > > ------------------------------- - > --- > > ------------ > > > > > > Dear Ramapriya & Hari, > > > When a planet associates with Hora Lagna or Ghati Lagna, that > > planet will bring wealth and power, respectively. How it does so > is a > > different subject, but it will bring the wealth and power. > > > If the same planet associates with the Lagna as well, then the > > native will recieve this wealth/power. > > > > > > Best wishes, Visti. > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 19, 2002 Report Share Posted September 19, 2002 Hi Lakshmi, No, I still don't think it qualifies. As I see it, for a planet to become a Yogada, it must aspect or be conjunct with the lagna *and* either GL or HL. The standard disclaimer applies. Warm regards, Ramapriya hubli vedic astrology, "b_lakshmi_ramesh" <b_lakshmi_ramesh> wrote: > Om Gurave Namah > > Hi Ramapriya, > > what if the conjunction of lagna+GL lords is in lagna and it is > aspected by HL lord placed in AL? > > Regards, > Lakshmi > > vedic astrology, "ramapriya_d" <ramapriya_d> wrote: > > Hi Lakshmi, > > > > Afaik, the aspect or conjunction must be with reference to the > > lagnas. I don't think mutual peeking would elevate them to yogadas; > > they gotta aspect the lagnas themselves. > > > > Just my opinion. > > > > Warm regards, > > > > Ramapriya > > hubli@v... > > > > vedic astrology, "b_lakshmi_ramesh" > > <b_lakshmi_ramesh> wrote: > > > Om Gurave Namah > > > > > > Namaste Friends, > > > > > > If the lords of lagna, GL, and HL are in conjunction or in mutual > > > aspect with one another and with AL, do all of them qualify as > > > kartas / yogadas? > > > > > > Regards, > > > Lakshmi > > > > > > > > > vedic astrology, "Visti Larsen" <vishnu@l...> wrote: > > > > Vyam Vyaasadevaaya Namah > > > > > > > > ---------------------------- --- > - > > --- > > > ------------ > > > > > > > > Dear Ramapriya & Hari, > > > > When a planet associates with Hora Lagna or Ghati Lagna, that > > > planet will bring wealth and power, respectively. How it does so > > is a > > > different subject, but it will bring the wealth and power. > > > > If the same planet associates with the Lagna as well, then the > > > native will recieve this wealth/power. > > > > > > > > Best wishes, Visti. > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 19, 2002 Report Share Posted September 19, 2002 Vyam Vyaasadevaaya Namah It can also lord. Best wishes, Visti. - ramapriya_d vedic astrology Thursday, September 19, 2002 5:19 PM Re: Re. [vedic astrology] Some info on karta required Hi Lakshmi,No, I still don't think it qualifies. As I see it, for a planet to become a Yogada, it must aspect or be conjunct with the lagna *and* either GL or HL.The standard disclaimer applies.Warm regards,Ramapriyahubli (AT) vsnl (DOT) com--- In vedic astrology, "b_lakshmi_ramesh" <b_lakshmi_ramesh> wrote:> Om Gurave Namah> > Hi Ramapriya, > > what if the conjunction of lagna+GL lords is in lagna and it is > aspected by HL lord placed in AL?> > Regards,> Lakshmi> > vedic astrology, "ramapriya_d" <ramapriya_d> wrote:> > Hi Lakshmi,> > > > Afaik, the aspect or conjunction must be with reference to the > > lagnas. I don't think mutual peeking would elevate them to yogadas; > > they gotta aspect the lagnas themselves.> > > > Just my opinion.> > > > Warm regards,> > > > Ramapriya> > hubli@v...> > > > vedic astrology, "b_lakshmi_ramesh" > > <b_lakshmi_ramesh> wrote:> > > Om Gurave Namah> > > > > > Namaste Friends,> > > > > > If the lords of lagna, GL, and HL are in conjunction or in mutual > > > aspect with one another and with AL, do all of them qualify as > > > kartas / yogadas?> > > > > > Regards,> > > Lakshmi > > > > > > > > > vedic astrology, "Visti Larsen" <vishnu@l...> wrote:> > > > Vyam Vyaasadevaaya Namah> > > > > > > > -------------------------------> -> > ---> > > ------------> > > > > > > > Dear Ramapriya & Hari,> > > > When a planet associates with Hora Lagna or Ghati Lagna, that > > > planet will bring wealth and power, respectively. How it does so > > is a > > > different subject, but it will bring the wealth and power. > > > > If the same planet associates with the Lagna as well, then the > > > native will recieve this wealth/power.> > > > > > > > Best wishes, Visti.> > > >Archives: vedic astrologyGroup info: vedic astrology/info.htmlTo UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology-....... May Jupiter's light shine on us ....... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 19, 2002 Report Share Posted September 19, 2002 Dear Visti, Just taking this forward a millistep, can we identify the karta(s) for the HL in D-10 while advising natives about their ideal choice of profession? In my chart, the HL isn't aspected by any planet. Otoh, my GL in D- 10 is aspected by all planets other than Mars, Venus and Rahu. Perhaps I was a dolt in choosing civil engineering as my career, because there's no influence of Mars at all on either the GL or HL. What do you say? Warm regards, Ramapriya hubli vedic astrology, "Visti Larsen" <vishnu@l...> wrote: > Vyam Vyaasadevaaya Namah > > - ------------- > > It can also lord. > Best wishes, Visti. > - > ramapriya_d > vedic astrology > Thursday, September 19, 2002 5:19 PM > Re: Re. [vedic astrology] Some info on karta required > > > Hi Lakshmi, > > No, I still don't think it qualifies. As I see it, for a planet to > become a Yogada, it must aspect or be conjunct with the lagna *and* > either GL or HL. > > The standard disclaimer applies. > > Warm regards, > > Ramapriya > hubli@v... > > > vedic astrology, "b_lakshmi_ramesh" > <b_lakshmi_ramesh> wrote: > > Om Gurave Namah > > > > Hi Ramapriya, > > > > what if the conjunction of lagna+GL lords is in lagna and it is > > aspected by HL lord placed in AL? > > > > Regards, > > Lakshmi > > > > vedic astrology, "ramapriya_d" <ramapriya_d> > wrote: > > > Hi Lakshmi, > > > > > > Afaik, the aspect or conjunction must be with reference to the > > > lagnas. I don't think mutual peeking would elevate them to > yogadas; > > > they gotta aspect the lagnas themselves. > > > > > > Just my opinion. > > > > > > Warm regards, > > > > > > Ramapriya > > > hubli@v... > > > > > > vedic astrology, "b_lakshmi_ramesh" > > > <b_lakshmi_ramesh> wrote: > > > > Om Gurave Namah > > > > > > > > Namaste Friends, > > > > > > > > If the lords of lagna, GL, and HL are in conjunction or in > mutual > > > > aspect with one another and with AL, do all of them qualify as > > > > kartas / yogadas? > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > Lakshmi > > > > > > > > > > > > vedic astrology, "Visti Larsen" <vishnu@l...> > wrote: > > > > > Vyam Vyaasadevaaya Namah > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------ ---- > --- > > - > > > --- > > > > ------------ > > > > > > > > > > Dear Ramapriya & Hari, > > > > > When a planet associates with Hora Lagna or Ghati Lagna, > that > > > > planet will bring wealth and power, respectively. How it does > so > > > is a > > > > different subject, but it will bring the wealth and power. > > > > > If the same planet associates with the Lagna as well, then > the > > > > native will recieve this wealth/power. > > > > > > > > > > Best wishes, Visti. > > > > > > > > Sponsor > > > > > > > > Group info: vedic- astrology/info.html > > To UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology-@e... > > ....... May Jupiter's light shine on us ....... > > > > Terms of Service. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 19, 2002 Report Share Posted September 19, 2002 Vyam Vyaasadevaaya Namah Dear Ramapriya, No don't let that be the basis of your choices, as the source og wealth cannot be ascertained acurately. Instead check the 11th from Arudha Lagna, this will show the sources of wealth/gains in the material world. Best wishes, Visti. - ramapriya_d vedic astrology Thursday, September 19, 2002 6:21 PM Re: Re. [vedic astrology] Some info on karta required Dear Visti,Just taking this forward a millistep, can we identify the karta(s) for the HL in D-10 while advising natives about their ideal choice of profession?In my chart, the HL isn't aspected by any planet. Otoh, my GL in D-10 is aspected by all planets other than Mars, Venus and Rahu. Perhaps I was a dolt in choosing civil engineering as my career, because there's no influence of Mars at all on either the GL or HL. What do you say?Warm regards,Ramapriyahubli (AT) vsnl (DOT) comvedic astrology, "Visti Larsen" <vishnu@l...> wrote:> Vyam Vyaasadevaaya Namah> > --> > It can also lord.> Best wishes, Visti.> - > ramapriya_d > vedic astrology > Thursday, September 19, 2002 5:19 PM> Re: Re. [vedic astrology] Some info on karta required> > > Hi Lakshmi,> > No, I still don't think it qualifies. As I see it, for a planet to > become a Yogada, it must aspect or be conjunct with the lagna *and* > either GL or HL.> > The standard disclaimer applies.> > Warm regards,> > Ramapriya> hubli@v...> > > vedic astrology, "b_lakshmi_ramesh" > <b_lakshmi_ramesh> wrote:> > Om Gurave Namah> > > > Hi Ramapriya, > > > > what if the conjunction of lagna+GL lords is in lagna and it is > > aspected by HL lord placed in AL?> > > > Regards,> > Lakshmi> > > > vedic astrology, "ramapriya_d" <ramapriya_d> > wrote:> > > Hi Lakshmi,> > > > > > Afaik, the aspect or conjunction must be with reference to the > > > lagnas. I don't think mutual peeking would elevate them to > yogadas; > > > they gotta aspect the lagnas themselves.> > > > > > Just my opinion.> > > > > > Warm regards,> > > > > > Ramapriya> > > hubli@v...> > > > > > --- In vedic astrology, "b_lakshmi_ramesh" > > > <b_lakshmi_ramesh> wrote:> > > > Om Gurave Namah> > > > > > > > Namaste Friends,> > > > > > > > If the lords of lagna, GL, and HL are in conjunction or in > mutual > > > > aspect with one another and with AL, do all of them qualify as > > > > kartas / yogadas?> > > > > > > > Regards,> > > > Lakshmi > > > > > > > > > > > > vedic astrology, "Visti Larsen" <vishnu@l...> > wrote:> > > > > Vyam Vyaasadevaaya Namah> > > > > > > > > > ----------------------------> ---> > -> > > ---> > > > ------------> > > > > > > > > > Dear Ramapriya & Hari,> > > > > When a planet associates with Hora Lagna or Ghati Lagna, > that > > > > planet will bring wealth and power, respectively. How it does > so > > > is a > > > > different subject, but it will bring the wealth and power. > > > > > If the same planet associates with the Lagna as well, then > the > > > > native will recieve this wealth/power.> > > > > > > > > > Best wishes, Visti.> > > > >> > > Sponsor > > > > > > Archives: vedic astrology> > Group info: vedic astrology/info.html> > To UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology-@e...> > ....... May Jupiter's light shine on us .......> > || Om Tat Sat || Sarvam Sri Krishnaarpanamastu || > > Terms of Service.Archives: vedic astrologyGroup info: vedic astrology/info.htmlTo UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology-....... May Jupiter's light shine on us ....... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 19, 2002 Report Share Posted September 19, 2002 Dear visti, Ramapriya and other group memebers, Pranam, I read a note from shri gurudeva sanjayji about yogada, but I don't know the meaning of it. I just tried to see in my chart and couple of other chart for the association of lords of HL, GL, Lagna and AL. I have found it on few chart, but I don't know what does it mean. I would like to know why are we looking for it. I am also pasting chart, so you can look into it. Thank you, Jayesh -- These calculations were made using "Jagannatha Hora Lite". It is a free software from Sri Jagannath Vedic Centre. You can download it from http://www.geocities.com/~astrowhiz or http://www.sjvc.net. -- Date of Birth: February 6, 1978 Time of Birth: 12:05:00 pm Time Zone of Birth: 5:30 East of GMT Longitude of Birth: 72 E 40 Latitude of Birth: 23 N 03 Lunar month (maasa): Pushya Lunar day (tithi): Krishna Chaturdasi Tithi balance: 0.5554 Nakshatra balance: 0.3822 Sun-Moon Yoga: Siddhi Sun-Moon Karana: Vishti Vara (weekday): Monday Sunrise = 7:18 am (Apparent rise - upper limb) Ayanamsa = 23-33-7 Dasa year length chosen = 365.2425 days Planet Position Pada CharaK Ascdt 23 Ar 51 Bharani 4 - Sun 23 Cp 34 Dhanishtha 1 AmK Moon 4 Cp 54 U.Shaa. 3 PiK Mars ® 2 Cn 29 Punarvasu 4 DK Mercury 8 Cp 57 U.Shaa. 4 MK Jupiter ® 2 Ge 50 Mrigasira 3 GK Venus 27 Cp 10 Dhanishtha 2 AK Saturn ® 4 Le 22 Makha 2 PK Rahu 15 Vi 04 Hastha 2 BK Ketu 15 Pi 04 U.Bhaa. 4 - BhavaLg 5 Ar 03 Aswini 2 - HoraLg 16 Ge 45 Aardra 4 - GhatiLg 21 Cp 50 Sravanam 4 - Dhooma 6 Ge 54 Aardra 1 - Vyati 23 Cp 05 Sravanam 4 - Pari 23 Cn 05 Aasresha 2 - I.Chapa 6 Sg 54 Moola 3 - Upaketu 23 Sg 34 Poo.Shaa. 4 - Kaala 6 Cn 11 Pushyami 1 - Mrityu 18 Aq 42 Satabhisham 4 - ArthaPr 16 Pi 40 Revathi 1 - YamaGha 13 Ar 32 Bharani 1 - Mandi 8 Ge 14 Aardra 1 - Gulika 28 Ta 28 Mrigasira 2 - +----------------------+ | | | | JupR | | | BL | | | | Ket | | Glk | Mnd | | | Asc | | | | | | | HL | |-------------|---------------------------|-------------| | | | | | | | | | | | MarR | | | | | | | | | |-------------| R A S I |-------------| | Moo Mer | | | | | | | | GL | | SatR | | | | | | Sun Ven | | | |-------------|---------------------------|-------------| | | | | | | | | | | | | | | Rah | | | | | | | | | | | +----------------------+ +----------------------+ | | | BL | | | HL | | | | | | | SatR | | | Mer | | | | | | | Rah | | |-------------|---------------------------|-------------| | | | | | | | MarR | | Moo | | | | | | GL | | | | | |-------------| N A V A M S A |-------------| | | | | | | | | | | | Sun | | | | | | | | | |-------------|---------------------------|-------------| | | | | | | | Asc | | Glk | | Mnd | | JupR | | | | Ket | | Ven | | | | | | +----------------------+ Vimsottari Dasa: Sun 1978-02-06 Merc 1978-03-12 Ketu 1979-01-16 Venu 1979-05-24 Moon 1980-05-23 Mars 1981-03-23 Rahu 1981-10-22 Jupi 1983-04-23 Satu 1984-08-22 Merc 1986-03-24 Ketu 1987-08-23 Venu 1988-03-23 Sun 1989-11-22 Mars 1990-05-23 Rahu 1990-10-20 Jupi 1991-11-07 Satu 1992-10-13 Merc 1993-11-22 Ketu 1994-11-19 Venu 1995-04-17 Sun 1996-06-16 Moon 1996-10-22 Rahu 1997-05-23 Jupi 2000-02-03 Satu 2002-06-29 Merc 2005-05-05 Ketu 2007-11-22 Venu 2008-12-10 Sun 2011-12-10 Moon 2012-11-03 Mars 2014-05-05 Jupi 2015-05-24 Satu 2017-07-11 Merc 2020-01-22 Ketu 2022-04-29 Venu 2023-04-05 Sun 2025-12-04 Moon 2026-09-22 Mars 2028-01-22 Rahu 2028-12-28 Satu 2031-05-23 Merc 2034-05-26 Ketu 2037-02-02 Venu 2038-03-14 Sun 2041-05-14 Moon 2042-04-26 Mars 2043-11-25 Rahu 2045-01-03 Jupi 2047-11-10 Merc 2050-05-23 Ketu 2052-10-19 Venu 2053-10-16 Sun 2056-08-16 Moon 2057-06-22 Mars 2058-11-22 Rahu 2059-11-19 Jupi 2062-06-07 Satu 2064-09-12 Ketu 2067-05-23 Venu 2067-10-19 Sun 2068-12-18 Moon 2069-04-25 Mars 2069-11-24 Rahu 2070-04-22 Jupi 2071-05-11 Satu 2072-04-16 Merc 2073-05-26 Venu 2074-05-23 Sun 2077-09-21 Moon 2078-09-22 Mars 2080-05-22 Rahu 2081-07-22 Jupi 2084-07-22 Satu 2087-03-23 Merc 2090-05-23 Ketu 2093-03-23 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 19, 2002 Report Share Posted September 19, 2002 Om Krishna Guru Dear Jayesh, Yogada means `giver of yoga'. A yogada planet can give the results of a rajya yoga in its dasa provided the rajya yoga exists in the horoscope. A planet that owns, aspects or conjoins lagna or Hora lagna (lagna for wealth) or Ghati lagna (lagna for power) is a Karta. Please note ASPECTS ARE RASI ASPECTS ONLY. A planet becomes a Yogada 1)if it owns or conjoins or aspects lagna and Hora lagna 2)if it owns or conjoins or aspects lagna and Ghati lagna A planet becomes a Maha Yogada (great giver of yoga) if owns or conjoins or aspects lagna and Hora lagna and Ghati lagna (all three). Lord of the Moon sign becomes Shubhapati and if he becomes a karta then he is also called Kevala. If a Kevala becomes a yogada then he is called Kevala Yogada (exclusive giver of yoga) In the horoscope you have given Saturn is the lord of the Moon sign and Ghati lagna so he is a Kevela. Since Saturn owns Ghati lagna and aspects lagna he is also a Yogada. Being a Kevela and also a Yogada he becomes a Kevela Yogada or exclusive giver of great yoga. The following are the Rajya Yogas/Raj Sambhanda yogas in the horoscope Rajya Yogas 1)Exchange of the 5th and 10th lords, Sun and Saturn 2)Combination of AK (Venus ) PiK (Moon) Raj Sambhanda yogas 1)AmK (Saturn) owning and aspecting the 10th house 2)Dispositor of AmK (Sun) aspecting the 10th lord (Saturn) 3)AmK(Saturn) aspecting the AK(Venus) 4)AK (Venus) in the 10th with two benefics Moon and Mercury 5)AK(Venus) with the 5th lord (Sun) in a Kendra However if you see the navamsa Venus is debilitated and hence destroys many of the above yogas. The yogas that can give results are Rajya Yoga 1 and Raj Sambhanda yoga 1,2.Since Saturn is the Kevala Yogada he is the one who will give the results of the possible yogas.Timing these yogas is a seperate issue. You can refer to Brihat Parasara Hora Shatra and Jaimini Sutra for a exhaustive listing of the Rajya Yogas and Raj Sambhanda yogas. Try and apply the same principles to some of the other horoscopes you have. regards Bharminder > Dear visti, Ramapriya and other group memebers, > > Pranam, > > I read a note from shri gurudeva sanjayji about yogada, but I don't > know the meaning of it. I just tried to see in my chart and couple > of other chart for the association of lords of HL, GL, Lagna and AL. > I have found it on few chart, but I don't know what does it mean. > > I would like to know why are we looking for it. > I am also pasting chart, so you can look into it. > > > Thank you, > Jayesh > > -- > These calculations were made using "Jagannatha Hora Lite". It is a > free software from Sri Jagannath Vedic Centre. You can download it > from http://www.geocities.com/~astrowhiz or http://www.sjvc.net. > -- > > Date of Birth: February 6, 1978 > Time of Birth: 12:05:00 pm > Time Zone of Birth: 5:30 East of GMT > Longitude of Birth: 72 E 40 > Latitude of Birth: 23 N 03 > Lunar month (maasa): Pushya > Lunar day (tithi): Krishna Chaturdasi > Tithi balance: 0.5554 > Nakshatra balance: 0.3822 > Sun-Moon Yoga: Siddhi > Sun-Moon Karana: Vishti > Vara (weekday): Monday > > Sunrise = 7:18 am (Apparent rise - upper limb) > Ayanamsa = 23-33-7 > Dasa year length chosen = 365.2425 days > > Planet Position Pada CharaK > > Ascdt 23 Ar 51 Bharani 4 - > Sun 23 Cp 34 Dhanishtha 1 AmK > Moon 4 Cp 54 U.Shaa. 3 PiK > Mars ® 2 Cn 29 Punarvasu 4 DK > Mercury 8 Cp 57 U.Shaa. 4 MK > Jupiter ® 2 Ge 50 Mrigasira 3 GK > Venus 27 Cp 10 Dhanishtha 2 AK > Saturn ® 4 Le 22 Makha 2 PK > Rahu 15 Vi 04 Hastha 2 BK > Ketu 15 Pi 04 U.Bhaa. 4 - > BhavaLg 5 Ar 03 Aswini 2 - > HoraLg 16 Ge 45 Aardra 4 - > GhatiLg 21 Cp 50 Sravanam 4 - > Dhooma 6 Ge 54 Aardra 1 - > Vyati 23 Cp 05 Sravanam 4 - > Pari 23 Cn 05 Aasresha 2 - > I.Chapa 6 Sg 54 Moola 3 - > Upaketu 23 Sg 34 Poo.Shaa. 4 - > Kaala 6 Cn 11 Pushyami 1 - > Mrityu 18 Aq 42 Satabhisham 4 - > ArthaPr 16 Pi 40 Revathi 1 - > YamaGha 13 Ar 32 Bharani 1 - > Mandi 8 Ge 14 Aardra 1 - > Gulika 28 Ta 28 Mrigasira 2 - > > > +----------------------+ > | | | | JupR | > | | BL | | | > | Ket | | Glk | Mnd | > | | Asc | | | > | | | | HL | > |-------------|---------------------------|-------------| > | | | | > | | | | > | | | MarR | > | | | | > | | | | > |-------------| R A S I |-------------| > | Moo Mer | | | > | | | | > | GL | | SatR | > | | | | > | Sun Ven | | | > |-------------|---------------------------|-------------| > | | | | | > | | | | | > | | | | Rah | > | | | | | > | | | | | > +----------------------+ > > +----------------------+ > | | | BL | | > | HL | | | | > | | | SatR | | > | Mer | | | | > | | | Rah | | > |-------------|---------------------------|-------------| > | | | | > | | | MarR | > | Moo | | | > | | | GL | > | | | | > |-------------| N A V A M S A |-------------| > | | | | > | | | | > | | | Sun | > | | | | > | | | | > |-------------|---------------------------|-------------| > | | | | | > | | Asc | | Glk | > | Mnd | | JupR | | > | | Ket | | Ven | > | | | | | > +----------------------+ > > > Vimsottari Dasa: > > Sun 1978-02-06 Merc 1978-03-12 Ketu 1979-01-16 Venu 1979-05-24 > Moon 1980-05-23 Mars 1981-03-23 Rahu 1981-10-22 Jupi 1983-04-23 > Satu 1984-08-22 > Merc 1986-03-24 Ketu 1987-08-23 Venu 1988-03-23 > Sun 1989-11-22 > Mars 1990-05-23 Rahu 1990-10-20 Jupi 1991-11-07 Satu 1992-10-13 > Merc 1993-11-22 > Ketu 1994-11-19 Venu 1995-04-17 Sun 1996-06-16 > Moon 1996-10-22 > Rahu 1997-05-23 Jupi 2000-02-03 Satu 2002-06-29 Merc 2005-05-05 > Ketu 2007-11-22 > Venu 2008-12-10 Sun 2011-12-10 Moon 2012-11-03 > Mars 2014-05-05 > Jupi 2015-05-24 Satu 2017-07-11 Merc 2020-01-22 Ketu 2022-04-29 > Venu 2023-04-05 > Sun 2025-12-04 Moon 2026-09-22 Mars 2028-01-22 > Rahu 2028-12-28 > Satu 2031-05-23 Merc 2034-05-26 Ketu 2037-02-02 Venu 2038-03-14 > Sun 2041-05-14 > Moon 2042-04-26 Mars 2043-11-25 Rahu 2045-01-03 > Jupi 2047-11-10 > Merc 2050-05-23 Ketu 2052-10-19 Venu 2053-10-16 Sun 2056-08-16 > Moon 2057-06-22 > Mars 2058-11-22 Rahu 2059-11-19 Jupi 2062-06-07 > Satu 2064-09-12 > Ketu 2067-05-23 Venu 2067-10-19 Sun 2068-12-18 Moon 2069-04-25 > Mars 2069-11-24 > Rahu 2070-04-22 Jupi 2071-05-11 Satu 2072-04-16 > Merc 2073-05-26 > Venu 2074-05-23 Sun 2077-09-21 Moon 2078-09-22 Mars 2080-05-22 > Rahu 2081-07-22 > Jupi 2084-07-22 Satu 2087-03-23 Merc 2090-05-23 > Ketu 2093-03-23 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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