Guest guest Posted September 17, 2002 Report Share Posted September 17, 2002 Dear Dhira Krsna, Interesting, your post on Rahu. Could you explain to me what you mean by "Jyotishtoma sacrifice"? I have Rahu in transit in my 9th at the moment and my life is all about sacrifice at the moment. Sacrifice both symbolic and actual. Thanks in advance Ramesari Devi - "Dhira Krsna BCS" <Dhira.Krsna.BCS <vedic astrology> Wednesday, September 18, 2002 6:44 PM [vedic astrology] Rahu Dasa > Dear Hari, > > >The entire chart is always better. In any-case Rahu in the 9th shows fall > >in Dharma. > > Rahu in 9th shows also Jyotishtoma sacrifice according to Brhad Parasara > Hora Sastra. Be careful in your judgement of Rahu, e.g. I have Rahu in 9th > and I am a devotee of Krishna. > > Your sishya, > Dhira Krsna dasa > > > > > > > > > ....... May Jupiter's light shine on us ....... > > > > Your use of is subject to > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 18, 2002 Report Share Posted September 18, 2002 Dear Hari, >The entire chart is always better. In any-case Rahu in the 9th shows fall >in Dharma. Rahu in 9th shows also Jyotishtoma sacrifice according to Brhad Parasara Hora Sastra. Be careful in your judgement of Rahu, e.g. I have Rahu in 9th and I am a devotee of Krishna. Your sishya, Dhira Krsna dasa Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 18, 2002 Report Share Posted September 18, 2002 Hello Sir, Can you please tell us what is Jyotishtoma sacrifice. thanks, Siva. vedic astrology, "Dhira Krsna BCS" <Dhira.Krsna.BCS@p...> wrote: > Dear Hari, > > >The entire chart is always better. In any-case Rahu in the 9th shows fall > >in Dharma. > > Rahu in 9th shows also Jyotishtoma sacrifice according to Brhad Parasara > Hora Sastra. Be careful in your judgement of Rahu, e.g. I have Rahu in 9th > and I am a devotee of Krishna. > > Your sishya, > Dhira Krsna dasa Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 18, 2002 Report Share Posted September 18, 2002 What is Jyotishtoma sacrifice??What is yr lagna??And where is rahu in yr natal chart.I am having rahu in scorpio and lagna is pieces. Thanks Raji Dhira Krsna BCS wrote: Dear Hari,>The entire chart is always better. In any-case Rahu in the 9th shows fall>in Dharma.Rahu in 9th shows also Jyotishtoma sacrifice according to Brhad ParasaraHora Sastra. Be careful in your judgement of Rahu, e.g. I have Rahu in 9thand I am a devotee of Krishna.Your sishya,Dhira Krsna dasaArchives: vedic astrologyGroup info: vedic astrology/info.htmlTo UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology-....... May Jupiter's light shine on us ....... Do you ? News - Today's headlines Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 19, 2002 Report Share Posted September 19, 2002 Vyam Vyaasadevaaya Namah Dear Dhira, Don't lead dearest Hari into confusion, you have Atmakaraka in the 9th as well. Rahu is Pitrikaraka, what does this tell us about your father? I too have Rahu in the 9th.. yet its Atmakaraka. Yet none of this is the reason that your a devotee of krishna. Best wishes, Visti. - Dhira Krsna BCS vedic astrology Wednesday, September 18, 2002 6:44 PM [vedic astrology] Rahu Dasa Dear Hari,>The entire chart is always better. In any-case Rahu in the 9th shows fall>in Dharma.Rahu in 9th shows also Jyotishtoma sacrifice according to Brhad ParasaraHora Sastra. Be careful in your judgement of Rahu, e.g. I have Rahu in 9thand I am a devotee of Krishna.Your sishya,Dhira Krsna dasaArchives: vedic astrologyGroup info: vedic astrology/info.htmlTo UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology-....... May Jupiter's light shine on us ....... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 19, 2002 Report Share Posted September 19, 2002 Dear Vistiji, Nevertheless and purely from a logical point of view, Dhira DOES seem to be correct in cautioning Hari against a summary judgement that "Rahu in the 9th leads to fall in Dharma"? Wouldn't you agree that possible alleviating circumstances must be examined, since you just pointed out two yourself? The first: I assume you are saying that your Rahu in 9th DOES NOT indicate fall in Dharma because your Rahu is also also Atmakaraka. So wouldn't Rahu also being an Atmakaraka be an alleviating circumstance to that dictum? The second: I assume you are also saying that the presence of Dhira's Atmakaraka in the 9th ?along with? Rahu PREVENTS us from concluding that there is a fall in Dharma? Isnt that an alleviating circumstance too, then? The reason I suddenly show interest here is because my Rahu is in the 3rd aspecting the 9th. My 9th ruler is Venus in the 6th and (Venus) is also my Atmakaraka. I don't know what to conclude here about myself in this regard. Also, I know two other people close to me both with Rahu in the 9th. At least one has the ruler of the 9th being an Atmakaraka. Neither seems to show the "fall in Dharma" symptom. SP vedic astrology, "Visti Larsen" <vishnu@l...> wrote: > Vyam Vyaasadevaaya Namah > > -- ------------ > > Dear Dhira, > Don't lead dearest Hari into confusion, you have Atmakaraka in the 9th as well. Rahu is Pitrikaraka, what does this tell us about your father? > > I too have Rahu in the 9th.. yet its Atmakaraka. > Yet none of this is the reason that your a devotee of krishna. > Best wishes, Visti. > - > Dhira Krsna BCS > vedic astrology > Wednesday, September 18, 2002 6:44 PM > [vedic astrology] Rahu Dasa > > > Dear Hari, > > >The entire chart is always better. In any-case Rahu in the 9th shows fall > >in Dharma. > > Rahu in 9th shows also Jyotishtoma sacrifice according to Brhad Parasara > Hora Sastra. Be careful in your judgement of Rahu, e.g. I have Rahu in 9th > and I am a devotee of Krishna. > > Your sishya, > Dhira Krsna dasa > > Sponsor > > > > > > > > > > To UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology-@e... > > ....... May Jupiter's light shine on us ....... > > > > Terms of Service. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 19, 2002 Report Share Posted September 19, 2002 Om Gurave Namah Dear Gurudeva Visti, Dhira, SP and the list, When i had first replied to rahu in the 9th, i had in the same sentence said that the entire chart is always better. The on-going discussion now will surely help me learn more. When i had posted rahu in the 9th could show fall in dharma, i did not mean it is also the case when rahu becomes the AK. What little i know is as follows. Kindly correct me. The 9th house stands for Dharma or loosely translated it means the principles one follows in life. The natural significators of the 9th house are Sun and Jupiter and they are naturally afflicted by Saturn and Rahu. While Jupiter in the 9th would show traditional knowledge and following the same, rahu would naturally oppose the same. This is true with just Rahu and as Rahu being the AK. The atmakaraka who acts as a king of the horoscope could be a benefic or a malefic. It;s just that a malefic being the AK will show a very high level of spirituality more so because this malefic as AK will teach very harsh lessons to the native, cleansing him of his/her sins and thus getting closer to god. AK being a benefic would show a relatively low level of spirituality because the teachings are not harsh. Never-the-less the means of teaching are the only thing that differs when the AK is a malefic or a benefic and also how longer the person takes to get closer to god. Could the native get closer to god, if rahu would not be the AK? surely not i guess. Ofcourse there could be other factors like for example, i re-collect Sanjay guru teachings in COVA where gurudeva talks cautiously of a malefic in the 3rd. 3rd being the house of skills shaped by arms, it would show a person skilled in weapons etc and since this malefic aspects the 9th, his dharma would be shaped via weapons!. As far as SP's 9th lord Venus, also the AK in the 6th, i would like to attempt this. Venus being the AK would mean that the native should always have a clean character and stay away from illegitimate relationships. Counting from AK to lagna we get 8. this could show the native staying away from homeland and invariably the vimshotari dasa of Venus will give problems (lessons to the native). I think this could get modified depending on the placement of AK in Navamsa. I will be glad if Guru's please correct me. Regds Hari - vedicastrostudent vedic astrology Friday, September 20, 2002 12:39 AM [vedic astrology] Re: Rahu Dasa Dear Vistiji,Nevertheless and purely from a logical point of view, Dhira DOES seem to be correct in cautioning Hari against a summary judgement that "Rahu in the 9th leads to fall in Dharma"? Wouldn't you agree that possible alleviating circumstances must be examined, since you just pointed out two yourself?The first: I assume you are saying that your Rahu in 9th DOES NOT indicate fall in Dharma because your Rahu is also also Atmakaraka. So wouldn't Rahu also being an Atmakaraka be an alleviating circumstance to that dictum?The second: I assume you are also saying that the presence of Dhira's Atmakaraka in the 9th ?along with? Rahu PREVENTS us from concluding that there is a fall in Dharma? Isnt that an alleviating circumstance too, then?The reason I suddenly show interest here is because my Rahu is in the 3rd aspecting the 9th. My 9th ruler is Venus in the 6th and (Venus) is also my Atmakaraka. I don't know what to conclude here about myself in this regard. Also, I know two other people close to me both with Rahu in the 9th. At least one has the ruler of the 9th being an Atmakaraka. Neither seems to show the "fall in Dharma" symptom.SP --- In vedic astrology, "Visti Larsen" <vishnu@l...> wrote:> Vyam Vyaasadevaaya Namah> > --> > Dear Dhira,> Don't lead dearest Hari into confusion, you have Atmakaraka in the 9th as well. Rahu is Pitrikaraka, what does this tell us about your father?> > I too have Rahu in the 9th.. yet its Atmakaraka.> Yet none of this is the reason that your a devotee of krishna.> Best wishes, Visti.> ----- Original Message ----- > Dhira Krsna BCS > vedic astrology > Wednesday, September 18, 2002 6:44 PM> [vedic astrology] Rahu Dasa> > > Dear Hari,> > >The entire chart is always better. In any-case Rahu in the 9th shows fall> >in Dharma.> > Rahu in 9th shows also Jyotishtoma sacrifice according to Brhad Parasara> Hora Sastra. Be careful in your judgement of Rahu, e.g. I have Rahu in 9th> and I am a devotee of Krishna.> > Your sishya,> Dhira Krsna dasa> > Sponsor > > > > > > Archives: vedic astrology> > Group info: vedic astrology/info.html> > To UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology-@e...> > ....... May Jupiter's light shine on us .......> > || Om Tat Sat || Sarvam Sri Krishnaarpanamastu || > > Terms of Service.Archives: vedic astrologyGroup info: vedic astrology/info.htmlTo UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology-....... May Jupiter's light shine on us ....... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 19, 2002 Report Share Posted September 19, 2002 >Ofcourse there could be other factors like for example, i re-collect >Sanjay guru teachings in COVA where gurudeva talks cautiously of a >malefic in the 3rd. 3rd being the house of skills shaped by arms, it >would show a person skilled in weapons etc and since this malefic >aspects the 9th, his dharma would be shaped via weapons!. > > As far as SP's 9th lord Venus, also the AK in the 6th, i would like >to attempt this. Venus being the AK would mean that the native >should always have a clean character and stay away from illegitimate >relationships. Counting from AK to lagna we get 8. this could show >the native staying away from homeland and invariably the vimshotari >dasa of Venus will give problems (lessons to the native). I think >this could get modified depending on the placement of AK in Navamsa. > Since you are talking about me, let me offer the following: That I am staying away from the homeland is correct. That the Vimshottari dasha of Venus has taught me lessons is also correct. But it has also brought but later taken away much wealth. That I have ANYTHING to do with weapons is NOT correct. What do you mean when you say I "should" have a clean character and stay away from illegitimate relationships? That I do have a clean character, or that if I WERE TO have a clean character, it would be good for me? The former is true (I think I have a clean character). The same holds for illegitimate relationships. I have never even wanted to have one. You might want to consider the conjunction of the Venus in 6th with an exalted Jupiter ruler of 2 and 11. Also, Venus is in Pisces in Navamsa. More than that I cannot say, because I feel my birth time needs rectification. If you want I can supply it. > I will be glad if Guru's please correct me. > > Regds > > Hari > > > > > - > vedicastrostudent > vedic astrology > Friday, September 20, 2002 12:39 AM > [vedic astrology] Re: Rahu Dasa > > > Dear Vistiji, > Nevertheless and purely from a logical point of view, Dhira DOES > seem to be correct in cautioning Hari against a summary judgement > that "Rahu in the 9th leads to fall in Dharma"? Wouldn't you agree > that possible alleviating circumstances must be examined, since you > just pointed out two yourself? > > The first: I assume you are saying that your Rahu in 9th DOES NOT > indicate fall in Dharma because your Rahu is also also Atmakaraka. So > wouldn't Rahu also being an Atmakaraka be an alleviating circumstance > to that dictum? > > The second: I assume you are also saying that the presence of Dhira's > Atmakaraka in the 9th ?along with? Rahu PREVENTS us from concluding > that there is a fall in Dharma? Isnt that an alleviating > circumstance too, then? > > The reason I suddenly show interest here is because my Rahu is in the > 3rd aspecting the 9th. My 9th ruler is Venus in the 6th and (Venus) > is also my Atmakaraka. I don't know what to conclude here about > myself in this regard. Also, I know two other people close to me both > with Rahu in the 9th. At least one has the ruler of the 9th being an > Atmakaraka. Neither seems to show the "fall in Dharma" symptom. > > SP > > vedic astrology, "Visti Larsen" <vishnu@l...> wrote: > > Vyam Vyaasadevaaya Namah > > > > ------------------------------- ---- > ------------ > > > > Dear Dhira, > > Don't lead dearest Hari into confusion, you have Atmakaraka in the > 9th as well. Rahu is Pitrikaraka, what does this tell us about your > father? > > > > I too have Rahu in the 9th.. yet its Atmakaraka. > > Yet none of this is the reason that your a devotee of krishna. > > Best wishes, Visti. > > - > > Dhira Krsna BCS > > vedic astrology > > Wednesday, September 18, 2002 6:44 PM > > [vedic astrology] Rahu Dasa > > > > > > Dear Hari, > > > > >The entire chart is always better. In any-case Rahu in the 9th > shows fall > > >in Dharma. > > > > Rahu in 9th shows also Jyotishtoma sacrifice according to Brhad > Parasara > > Hora Sastra. Be careful in your judgement of Rahu, e.g. I have > Rahu in 9th > > and I am a devotee of Krishna. > > > > Your sishya, > > Dhira Krsna dasa > > > > Sponsor > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Group info: vedic- astrology/info.html > > > > To UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology-@e... > > > > ....... May Jupiter's light shine on us ....... > > > > > > > > Terms of > Service. > > > Sponsor > > > > > > > > > > To UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology-@e... > > ....... May Jupiter's light shine on us ....... > > > > Terms of Service. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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