Education

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Om Namah Sivaya

 

Dear Members,

I would like to put forth my views , misconceptions regarding

determining Education through Astrology for the cinsideration of our

learned members . Before that I must admit that I am learning

Astrology through books & magazines only. So , definitely the

following writeup does contain amaeturish thoughts . Had I been a

desciple , I would have got clarified these things with my Guru .

That's why I put this on this list , with a hope that somebody may

throw light on this.

Education, at least in India , now is more job oriented

rather than Knowledge oriented . Let me describe the education system

in Andhra Pradesh State in India . Normally, Primary Education is

upto 10th class, upto this every student learn same subjects . After

10th class comes Intermeadiate Education .His future branch of study

will be decided in choosing the group in His Inter.

Group Under graduate degree

-------------- -------------------------

Maths,Physics,Chemistry (MPC) Engineering --> B.E, B.Tech etc

Biology,Physics,Chemistry (BiPC) Medicine --> M.B.B.S

Vetenary science,

Agriculture, Pharmacy

Commerce, Economics,Civics (CEC) B.Com,Chartered Acoounts etc,

History,Economics, Civics (HEC) B.A etc.

 

Though Central Education is little different where the turning point

is after their 10+2 .Give or take some odd exception,the future study

mostly decided after 10th .The boy has to choose different brach in

Engg depending on the rank he gets in EAMCET(Engineering And Medical

Common Entrance Test). There are a no of braches viz Mechanical,

civil ,Electronics etc. A boy from Bi.P.C group has to go for

Medicine and like sciences . Or, if he wants to study not Engineering

he has to go to for Bachelor degrees like in Physics , Commerce, Arts

etc.

Members from Indian origin ,that too from Andhra Pradesh can

understand , How mad are both the Parents and Students about their

study in Engineering . In this circumstances ,judging educational

inclinations of a child through Astrology is very trick and important

as well. Don't you agree ?.

 

Dr.B.V.Raman in his classic "How to Judge a Horoscope Vol I",

warns us " It may not be possible to say from an examination of

Horoscope ehether one's inclinationwould be physics ,or chemistry or

Engineering. But I would like to give some observations , regarding

branches of study indicated by planets . These indications are culled

from different articles and books , not from my personal experience .

Though an integrated approach taking the element indications viz.

firey , earthy etc , quality of signs like Cardinal ,Ficxed etc,

strengh of planets etc. A study of 10th house is also indicates his

proffession, but we can see people settled in Software field besides

having Bacelors degree in Medicine .

 

 

1. Sun : A royal ,firey planet indicates stydy related

to especilly Phisics , Electrical. Even Engineering,also.

Sun + Rahu indicates Medicine study as Sun rules soul ,healing , Rahu

deals drugs .

Sun + Mecury -> Proficiency in wirk , Mathamatics etc.

Sun + Mars + Mecury ---> a logician

 

2. Moon : A watery planet indicates Naval Engineering ,

Agriculture , Chemicals ,Psychology etc .

Moon + Sun --> Studies in Psychology

 

3. Mars : A firey planet study in Engineering , arms ,

surgery etc . if connected with Saturn Mechanical ,Civil Engineering .

 

4. Mecury : An Earthy ,INtellectual planet indicates study

in Astrology , Computer Education ,Book writing, commerce ,

proficiency in Mathematics etc.

Mecury + Mars + Sun --> Computer education

Mecury + Jupiter --> Astrology ,commerce

 

5. Jupiter : indicates study in holy sciences like Vedas ,

Law . But as Study in Vedas doent come under normal education ,

connections with other planets is to be studied , b'coz he is Vidya

karaka accroding to Dr.B.V.Raman.

Jupiter + Mecury --> scientists , Teaching etc.

Jupiter + Mars --> Lawyer

 

6.Venus : indicates Study in Fine Arts ,music ,Fashion

Designing etc.

Venus + Moon --> Painting ,music

Venus + Mecury --> Singing , book writing

 

7.Saturn : study in Engineering especially Mining,

Metallurgy . If positively place with Mecury indicates expertise in

Mathematics

 

8.Rahu : Study in Engg like Electrical , study in drugs

if connected with sign scorpio etc.

 

9. Ketu : Study in occult science ,if positively placed

religious study .

 

 

If the study indicates Medicine , then Mars influence indicates

Surgery .

Above indications are very general , we should keep in mind the

strength planets is very important . And most influence planet on 4th

and 9th indicates brach of study . In above combination means mutual

aspect , exchange of houses , in trines or kendra to each other and

conjunction of plabets .

 

Now let me express my view and doubts .

 

1. We all know 4th house deals formal Education apart from sukha ,

mother etc., 9th deals higher education . Upto which standard mattes

come under 4th house . OF course I agreee we can't conclude as such

clear cut boundaries . Any takers ?.

 

2. Most scholors take Mecury as Vidya karake , But Dr. B.V. Raman

takes Jupiter as Vidya Karaka . As Jupiter as natural Gnana Karaka ,

I think, study of Jupiter's placement along with Mecury is a must

instead of one alone . Members agree ?.

 

3. Chaturvimsamsa D-24 deals with education. O.k. But In India

reported bith time definitely varies about 10 to 15 min from the

actual time . In such a cases relying on Divisional charts is very

tricky . though birth time rectification/ Verification is done , how

many significant events can we observe from a boy aged 15-17 years ?.

In some cases People consulting Astrologer wants those events are to

be revealed by Astrologers , besides reporting birth time like

between 11 am to 11:30 am . Most of us might have faced this at least

once in their experience.

 

4. With many branches in Engineering , though a clear cut indications

by a planet may not get, but it is upto us to dig into these

matters , using statistical study . We have much falicity of

technology with us . Isn't it friends?.

 

I observe , alot of stree is being put by the parents on theit

children, to go gor Engineering studies irrespective of capability of

the child . This is leading to suicide attempts by the students

especially in Andhra Pradesh in corporate colleges . Tht's why I

would like to request Astrological fraternity to go for a research in

this regard .

 

Respected Gurus , may excuse me for the mistakes and misconceptions

in above writeup . I would be very glad if anybody correct my mistakes

 

remains

Shanmukha.

[Guest guest]

Om Jaya Jagannatha

------------------

 

Dear Shanmukha,

 

Nice thinking.

 

The 4H represents Aparaa Vidya and usually represents High-School

education, i.e. upto the 12th grade. Here, the student has to decide

which branch he is interested in and has to specialize i.e Medicine

or Engineering etc and this comes under the purview of 9H as it is

the 6H(Upachaaya-Growth) from 4H.

 

After one completes a Bachelors course, an interested student does

further specialization, like the Masters course, which is indicated

by the 2H, which is once again 6H from the 9H. So on and so forth.

 

We look at planets influencing the said houses and its lord to

gauge the interest of the native. Ofcourse, this is done in D24 or

ChaturVimsamsa.

 

Now, the fact is, D24 is very time sensitive as you had mentioned,

hence it is very important to rectify the natives chart as a whole,

based on past events.

 

I must hasten to mention, that one must first use the D1 & D9 to get

an understanding of the chart and then ... only then ... venture

into D24.

 

Navamsa is not too time-sensitve and can/must be used to understand

the natives inherent talents and capabilities. For Examples, someone

who is mathematically gifted should have Ketu in trines to or

aspecting the Navamsa Lagna, one who is good at playing musical

instrument will have Sun in trines ... so on and so forth, You can

get the list from Jaimini Sutras by Pt. Rath.

 

Having ascertained Navamsa Lagna and checked past events from Rasi &

Navamsa, only then can one tackle the D24 Chart.

 

Finally, I feel Mercury is the primary Vidya Karaka.

 

Regards

Narayana

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Dear Narayana,

 

There are a couple of things I don't readily understand. You state

that the 6th house is the house of growth. Why then is the 6th house

regarded the house of obstruction? Going by that logic, the lagna

lord to be in the 6th must be a boon, but you know that scriptures

record to the exact contrary!

 

Purely by the progression sequence, the fourth from 4H should

represent the higher grade of education, isn't it? In any case, I do

remember reading somewhere that 4H signifies primary education and

5H the next level.

 

And about the aspect of Ketu on the D-9 lagna. How does Ketu aspect?

Or did you mean Ketu being *in* the D-9 lagna?

 

Warm regards,

 

Ramapriya

hubli

 

vedic astrology, "naaraayana_iyer"

<naaraayana_iyer> wrote:

> Om Jaya Jagannatha

> ------------------

>

> Dear Shanmukha,

>

> Nice thinking.

>

> The 4H represents Aparaa Vidya and usually represents High-School

> education, i.e. upto the 12th grade. Here, the student has to

decide

> which branch he is interested in and has to specialize i.e

Medicine

> or Engineering etc and this comes under the purview of 9H as it is

> the 6H(Upachaaya-Growth) from 4H.

>

> After one completes a Bachelors course, an interested student does

> further specialization, like the Masters course, which is

indicated

> by the 2H, which is once again 6H from the 9H. So on and so forth.

>

> We look at planets influencing the said houses and its lord to

> gauge the interest of the native. Ofcourse, this is done in D24 or

> ChaturVimsamsa.

>

> Now, the fact is, D24 is very time sensitive as you had mentioned,

> hence it is very important to rectify the natives chart as a

whole,

> based on past events.

>

> I must hasten to mention, that one must first use the D1 & D9 to

get

> an understanding of the chart and then ... only then ... venture

> into D24.

>

> Navamsa is not too time-sensitve and can/must be used to

understand

> the natives inherent talents and capabilities. For Examples,

someone

> who is mathematically gifted should have Ketu in trines to or

> aspecting the Navamsa Lagna, one who is good at playing musical

> instrument will have Sun in trines ... so on and so forth, You can

> get the list from Jaimini Sutras by Pt. Rath.

>

> Having ascertained Navamsa Lagna and checked past events from Rasi

&

> Navamsa, only then can one tackle the D24 Chart.

>

> Finally, I feel Mercury is the primary Vidya Karaka.

>

> Regards

> Narayana

[Guest guest]

Vyam Vyaasadevaaya Namah

Dear Ramapriya,

Since when is the 6th obstruction? 6th is hard work, strife and shows those

people who you cause much distress to, and if they get the opportunity, they

will hurt you back.

Obstruction? not exactly. If so then it wouldn't be an Upachaya.

Instead check the Badhak Sthana.

 

It takes hard work to advance in educational activities, hence the logic.

5th house represents your intelligence. This is needed to advance in any area.

Best wishes, Visti.

-

ramapriya_d

vedic astrology

Sunday, September 15, 2002 5:45 PM

[vedic astrology] Re: Education

Dear Narayana,There are a couple of things I don't readily understand. You state

that the 6th house is the house of growth. Why then is the 6th house regarded

the house of obstruction? Going by that logic, the lagna lord to be in the 6th

must be a boon, but you know that scriptures record to the exact

contrary!Purely by the progression sequence, the fourth from 4H should

represent the higher grade of education, isn't it? In any case, I do remember

reading somewhere that 4H signifies primary education and 5H the next level.And

about the aspect of Ketu on the D-9 lagna. How does Ketu aspect? Or did you mean

Ketu being *in* the D-9 lagna?Warm regards,Ramapriyahubli (AT) vsnl (DOT) com--- In

vedic astrology, "naaraayana_iyer" <naaraayana_iyer> wrote:> Om Jaya

Jagannatha> ------------------> > Dear Shanmukha,> > Nice thinking. > > The 4H

represents Aparaa Vidya and usually represents High-School > education, i.e.

upto the 12th grade. Here, the student has to decide > which branch he is

interested in and has to specialize i.e Medicine > or Engineering etc and this

comes under the purview of 9H as it is > the 6H(Upachaaya-Growth) from 4H.> >

After one completes a Bachelors course, an interested student does > further

specialization, like the Masters course, which is indicated > by the 2H, which

is once again 6H from the 9H. So on and so forth.> > We look at planets

influencing the said houses and its lord to > gauge the interest of the

native. Ofcourse, this is done in D24 or > ChaturVimsamsa.> > Now, the fact is,

D24 is very time sensitive as you had mentioned, > hence it is very important to

rectify the natives chart as a whole, > based on past events.> > I must hasten

to mention, that one must first use the D1 & D9 to get > an understanding of

the chart and then ... only then ... venture > into D24.> > Navamsa is not too

time-sensitve and can/must be used to understand > the natives inherent talents

and capabilities. For Examples, someone > who is mathematically gifted should

have Ketu in trines to or > aspecting the Navamsa Lagna, one who is good at

playing musical > instrument will have Sun in trines ... so on and so forth,

You can > get the list from Jaimini Sutras by Pt. Rath. > > Having ascertained

Navamsa Lagna and checked past events from Rasi & > Navamsa, only then can one

tackle the D24 Chart.> > Finally, I feel Mercury is the primary Vidya Karaka.>

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om namah shivaaya

-----------------

 

Dear Ramapriya,

 

As Visti stated, 6H is not the house of obstruction, that is the job

of the badhaka house.

 

Among other things, the 6H also represents bad work, mental tensions

etc. The 6H is an Upachaya as well as a trika(house of evil).

 

In fact, when the Lagna lord is conjoined or aspects the 6H or its

lords it results in Dhimantaha Yoga(Intelligent Work or Growth of

Intelligence)!

 

> And about the aspect of Ketu on the D-9 lagna. How does Ketu

> aspect? Or did you mean Ketu being *in* the D-9 lagna?

 

 

Ketu can have rasi dristi on the lagna, thats what I had meant.

 

Regards

Narayana

 

vedic astrology, "ramapriya_d" <ramapriya_d> wrote:

> Dear Narayana,

>

> There are a couple of things I don't readily understand. You state

> that the 6th house is the house of growth. Why then is the 6th

house

> regarded the house of obstruction? Going by that logic, the lagna

> lord to be in the 6th must be a boon, but you know that scriptures

> record to the exact contrary!

>

> Purely by the progression sequence, the fourth from 4H should

> represent the higher grade of education, isn't it? In any case, I

do

> remember reading somewhere that 4H signifies primary education and

> 5H the next level.

>

> And about the aspect of Ketu on the D-9 lagna. How does Ketu

aspect?

> Or did you mean Ketu being *in* the D-9 lagna?

>

> Warm regards,

>

> Ramapriya

> hubli@v...

>

> vedic astrology, "naaraayana_iyer"

> <naaraayana_iyer> wrote:

> > Om Jaya Jagannatha

> > ------------------

> >

> > Dear Shanmukha,

> >

> > Nice thinking.

> >

> > The 4H represents Aparaa Vidya and usually represents High-

School

> > education, i.e. upto the 12th grade. Here, the student has to

> decide

> > which branch he is interested in and has to specialize i.e

> Medicine

> > or Engineering etc and this comes under the purview of 9H as it

is

> > the 6H(Upachaaya-Growth) from 4H.

> >

> > After one completes a Bachelors course, an interested student

does

> > further specialization, like the Masters course, which is

> indicated

> > by the 2H, which is once again 6H from the 9H. So on and so

forth.

> >

> > We look at planets influencing the said houses and its lord to

> > gauge the interest of the native. Ofcourse, this is done in D24

or

> > ChaturVimsamsa.

> >

> > Now, the fact is, D24 is very time sensitive as you had

mentioned,

> > hence it is very important to rectify the natives chart as a

> whole,

> > based on past events.

> >

> > I must hasten to mention, that one must first use the D1 & D9 to

> get

> > an understanding of the chart and then ... only then ... venture

> > into D24.

> >

> > Navamsa is not too time-sensitve and can/must be used to

> understand

> > the natives inherent talents and capabilities. For Examples,

> someone

> > who is mathematically gifted should have Ketu in trines to or

> > aspecting the Navamsa Lagna, one who is good at playing musical

> > instrument will have Sun in trines ... so on and so forth, You

can

> > get the list from Jaimini Sutras by Pt. Rath.

> >

> > Having ascertained Navamsa Lagna and checked past events from

Rasi

> &

> > Navamsa, only then can one tackle the D24 Chart.

> >

> > Finally, I feel Mercury is the primary Vidya Karaka.

> >

> > Regards

> > Narayana

[Guest guest]

Yea you're right. Like Visti said, perhaps 'obstruction' was an inappropriate

choice of word. But then, most Indians like me arent' native English users. I

just saw Lakshmi's use of the 'cousin brother' somewhere. That term could have

preposterous connotations but Indians will know what she meant!

Anyway, after I posted, I referred CoVA and found in there exactly what you'd

written. Complex stuff this

Warm regards,

Ramapriyahubli (AT) vsnl (DOT) com

naaraayana_iyer wrote:

om namah shivaaya-----------------Dear Ramapriya,As Visti stated, 6H is not the

house of obstruction, that is the job of the badhaka house.Among other things,

the 6H also represents bad work, mental tensions etc. The 6H is an Upachaya as

well as a trika(house of evil).In fact, when the Lagna lord is conjoined or

aspects the 6H or its lords it results in Dhimantaha Yoga(Intelligent Work or

Growth of Intelligence)!> And about the aspect of Ketu on the D-9 lagna. How

does Ketu > aspect? Or did you mean Ketu being *in* the D-9 lagna?Ketu can have

rasi dristi on the lagna, thats what I had meant.RegardsNarayana--- In

vedic astrology, "ramapriya_d" <ramapriya_d> wrote:> Dear Narayana,>

> There are a couple of things I don't readily understand. You state > that the

6th house is the house of growth. Why then is the 6th house > regarded the house

of obstruction? Going by that logic, the lagna > lord to be in the 6th must be a

boon, but you know that scriptures > record to the exact contrary!> > Purely by

the progression sequence, the fourth from 4H should > represent the higher

grade of education, isn't it? In any case, I do > remember reading somewhere

that 4H signifies primary education and > 5H the next level.> > And about the

aspect of Ketu on the D-9 lagna. How does Ketu aspect? > Or did you mean Ketu

being *in* the D-9 lagna?> > Warm regards,> > Ramapriya> hubli@v...> > --- In

vedic astrology, "naaraayana_iyer" > <naaraayana_iyer> wrote:> > Om

Jaya Jagannatha> > ------------------> > > > Dear Shanmukha,> > > > Nice

thinking. > > > > The 4H represents Aparaa Vidya and usually represents

High-School > > education, i.e. upto the 12th grade. Here, the student has to >

decide > > which branch he is interested in and has to specialize i.e > Medicine

> > or Engineering etc and this comes under the purview of 9H as it is > > the

6H(Upachaaya-Growth) from 4H.> > > > After one completes a Bachelors course, an

interested student does > > further specialization, like the Masters course,

which is > indicated > > by the 2H, which is once again 6H from the 9H. So on

and so forth.> > > > We look at planets influencing the said houses and its

lord to > > gauge the interest of the native. Ofcourse, this is done in D24 or

> > ChaturVimsamsa.> > > > Now, the fact is, D24 is very time sensitive as you

had mentioned, > > hence it is very important to rectify the natives chart as a

> whole, > > based on past events.> > > > I must hasten to mention, that one

must first use the D1 & D9 to > get > > an understanding of the chart and then

.... only then ... venture > > into D24.> > > > Navamsa is not too time-sensitve

and can/must be used to > understand > > the natives inherent talents and

capabilities. For Examples, > someone > > who is mathematically gifted should

have Ketu in trines to or > > aspecting the Navamsa Lagna, one who is good at

playing musical > > instrument will have Sun in trines ... so on and so forth,

You can > > get the list from Jaimini Sutras by Pt. Rath. > > > > Having

ascertained Navamsa Lagna and checked past events from Rasi > & > > Navamsa,

only then can one tackle the D24 Chart.> > > > Finally, I feel Mercury is the

primary Vidya Karaka.> > > > Regards> > NarayanaArchives:

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