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Hi, How could you predict that I've a moony behaviour? Also can you

please throw some light on 12th house as you did for 8th house. An

aquaintace of mine said that for a gemini ascendant, if saturn is

exalted in libra (as in my case) then it rules over 8th, 9th and

12th. I've got mer, ven, sun in 12th. Is it correct? I've given my

full birth details and horoscope in the other message.

I guess you'll be either 30 year old or 60 year old, because saturn

is in gemini now-a-days.

Please also read the length reply I wrote just before this message.

 

Thanks a lot in advance for your time and attention!

I really appreciate the effort you've put in writing this

informative reply.

 

Farrukh

vedic astrology, "prasadphatak" <prasadp@e...> wrote:

> Farrukh,

>

> Hey, i'm a gemini asc with saturn in it..

>

> You dont have to get so hurt and hurt in return. every one

(including

> katti) has a right to exist and believe and think in his own way.

you

> are showing a perfectly moony behaviour and thats not going to

serve

> a discussion group in a field such as vedic astrology.

>

> As far as the question of vedic astrology being complete is

> concerned, I feel that no field can be complete as completeness

has

> only one state. everything is like time, i.e. has a past, present

and

> future, hence trigunatmak. fields like medicine, astrology etc are

> governed by eighth house primarily. Its all about exploring the

> unknown. If the science is complete then how can there be any

unknown

> or 8th hse element ? but this explanation emanates from this

science

> itself so u may say its complete..forget it, its kinda

paradoxical :)

>

> now coming to saturn.. when katti is asking you about considering

> upapada regarding marriages or relations, he's right in a way but

may

> not be concerned with ur context. i do agree with most of your

views

> regarding saturn. it always tries to be the perfect. its called

Manda

> in vedic astro, meaning slow. It tries to control everything by

being

> the slowest. so, in a way has the most say over "time" compared to

> any other planet. thats why saturn's results are long lasting. but

as

> far strength is concerned its 30 times less in strength than sun.

so

> putting it all together, saturn asks for patience. if saturn is

> benefic to ur asc and other planets are not very supportive then

in

> its transit, it'll prove to be very benevolent. it wont ignore u

even

> if u dont have certain skills but will give u many chances (thats

> having control over time). on the other hand, if u're a very

talented

> person who has risen in life very fast, based on skills and

talents

> and again if saturn is benefic to you then the same saturn in his

> transit, will cause many bad delays, frustrations and pain making

> sure you respect the social structure in general and not just be

> successful. Thats why saturn is hated by most. it appears to be

> unjust because it denies many fruits to very capable people. but

over

> a long run the same person realises that everything was

very "Just".

> saturn is responsible for the entire socio-economic structure. it

> takes decades for a newly born country to have a reasonable

> infrastructure of roads, schools, judiciary, markets and other

> amenities and again years to set the whole thing running straight.

> saturn is responsible for all that hard work that goes in it. then

> how can it allow an intelligent kid to pass out of a good college

and

> in a few years start making policy decisions affecting millions,

if

> that kid is not properly trained about the whole structure.

>

> so saturn tries to balance, equalise everything. time,

determination

> and hard-work are its weapons. its like a prime minister who's the

> most powerful person in a democratic country but never over-rules

the

> president who's like the King, the Sun.

>

> Saturn is very friendly with venus. it likes mercury. it respects

> jupiter and mars. it hates moon. The nodes are beyond the realms

of

> all the planets. Its the natural karaka of 8th and 12th houses

which

> rule longevity and moksha resp. how long anything will last is

> determined by saturn. but i feel that marriages are to be judged

by

> the 7th house. hence the 8th hse from 7th is 2nd house and its

karaka

> is jupiter. So, the longevity of a marriage is to be judged by

> jupiter and saturn has nothing to do with it..it is generally

found

> that people with good jupiter are extremely loyal to their spouse

as

> its their dharma or duty. but when business relations are

concerned,

> its more to do with "Neeti" than "Dharma" and there saturn has a

role

> to play. so longevity of business in general is to be judged by

> saturn..

>

> all these are my humble remarks and feedbacks are more than

welcome..

>

> Kalaay Tasmai NamaH

>

> -prasad

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