Historical question on an existing system of astrology

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Hello all,

Some one gave me a remedy which I traced on the internet to stem

from "Lal Kitab". What is "Lal Kitab" and what is it's relationship

to the systems of astrology discussed in this newsgroup i.e. Parasari

(?) and Jaimini(?), correct. What is it's origin? Is it in your

experiences: contradictory, complementary, less powerful, more

powerful or none of the above?

 

Thank you in advance,

 

VAS

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Lal Kitab is the book many astrologers use it for advicing the

remedial measures. Many times these remedial measures work also. These remedies

are very easy to follow ,some people do tell these as Totakas in general

parlance. I really doubt that there is a ref of this book in Vedic Astrology.

Somewhere I read that the source of this book is ancient IRAN (Persia) Though I

am not sure about this and at this present moment I am not able to recall it.

Also we should be careful to adapt Satvik Remedy rather than adapting

Tamsik...But do know several people for them these have worked..

Regards Vikram

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Hello all,Some one gave me a remedy which I traced on the internet to stem from

"Lal Kitab". What is "Lal Kitab" and what is it's relationship to the systems

of astrology discussed in this newsgroup i.e. Parasari(?) and Jaimini(?),

correct. What is it's origin? Is it in your experiences: contradictory,

complementary, less powerful, more powerful or none of the above?Thank you in

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Vyam Vyasadevaaya Namah

Dear VAS,

throwing coal in a lake or digging roots out of a burial ground, will not bring

you closer to god, and thats the only way to really get rid of karma.

Best wishes, Visti.

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Sunday, August 18, 2002 9:22 PM

[vedic astrology] Historical question on an existing system of astrology

Hello all,Some one gave me a remedy which I traced on the internet to stem from

"Lal Kitab". What is "Lal Kitab" and what is it's relationship to the systems

of astrology discussed in this newsgroup i.e. Parasari(?) and Jaimini(?),

correct. What is it's origin? Is it in your experiences: contradictory,

complementary, less powerful, more powerful or none of the above?Thank you in

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Dear Vistiji,

 

I see two possibilities here. Either your first sentence is

figuratively trying to describe and dismiss my attempts at

understanding my problems. Or your first sentence is literally

describing remedies cited in Lal Kitab, which you believe cannot

work. I wonder which one of the above sentences captures your true

intent?

 

My original intent for posting the question still remains the same -

for the time being at least - so I am going to repeat it because I

still have most of my questions answered: Much as it might appear

that way, I am not looking for a quick vote of approval on the Lal

Kitab so I can jump into mechanical execution of its remedies. I am

simply trying to evaluate it. Lal Kitab seems to have fairly

condensed information (from what I've seen on the internet). Is this

information accurately condensed or summarized from the bigger works

(e.g. BPHS, JUS) that this group's learned members base their

predictions upon? Or is it an independent information source - and if

so, how does it compare to to the bigger works cited earlier - are

their mutual contradictions or not?

 

Thanks in advance,

 

VAS

 

 

 

Thank you,

VAS

 

vedic astrology, "Visti Larsen" <vishnu@l...> wrote:

> Vyam Vyasadevaaya Namah

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>

> Dear VAS,

> throwing coal in a lake or digging roots out of a burial ground,

will not bring you closer to god, and thats the only way to really

get rid of karma.

> Best wishes, Visti.

> -

> vedicastrostudent

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> Sunday, August 18, 2002 9:22 PM

> [vedic astrology] Historical question on an existing

system of astrology

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> Hello all,

> Some one gave me a remedy which I traced on the internet to stem

> from "Lal Kitab". What is "Lal Kitab" and what is it's

relationship

> to the systems of astrology discussed in this newsgroup i.e.

Parasari

> (?) and Jaimini(?), correct. What is it's origin? Is it in your

> experiences: contradictory, complementary, less powerful, more

> powerful or none of the above?

>

> Thank you in advance,

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Om sri hanumate namah,

 

lal kitab as far as I know ( the little I could extract from my father who is

an astrologer himself but refuses to read our charts ) was originally in

Persian as far as i remember and most of it is by word of mouth-there must have

been some calculations involved too- and thus has many interpretations.

 

Its said once when the british ruled India one of the officers' children fell

very sick and did not respond to any treatment- at that point in time an expert

on lal kitab suggested a remedy and it worked .lal kitab shot into prominence

thence.Right now it has become a compendium of simple remedial measures.And

none of the interpretations of the kitab offer any logic behind it. thus a lot

of confusion.Anyway the bottomline is the suffering person is open to try

anything and thats just about it.

regards,

rambha.

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Visti Larsen

vedic astrology

Monday, August 19, 2002 6:43 PM

Re: [vedic astrology] Historical question on an existing system of astrology

Vyam Vyasadevaaya Namah

Dear VAS,

throwing coal in a lake or digging roots out of a burial ground, will not bring

you closer to god, and thats the only way to really get rid of karma.

Best wishes, Visti.

-

vedicastrostudent

vedic astrology

Sunday, August 18, 2002 9:22 PM

[vedic astrology] Historical question on an existing system of astrology

Hello all,Some one gave me a remedy which I traced on the internet to stem from

"Lal Kitab". What is "Lal Kitab" and what is it's relationship to the systems

of astrology discussed in this newsgroup i.e. Parasari(?) and Jaimini(?),

correct. What is it's origin? Is it in your experiences: contradictory,

complementary, less powerful, more powerful or none of the above?Thank you in

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hello all,

even if one donot think there is logic in remidies

suggested in lal kitab there isnoharm to do it usally

it says do good to other liviving creature who were

here before us.or doing good to our fellow being who

is handicapped is certainly is a good karma.

fact is it point us our deficiancy and we should not

be judgemental to other.

only it skipp calculative and math part of it

rajinder

 

--- anukochhar <anukochhar wrote:

> Om sri hanumate namah,

>

> lal kitab as far as I know ( the little I could

> extract from my father who is an astrologer himself

> but refuses to read our charts ) was originally in

> Persian as far as i remember and most of it is by

> word of mouth-there must have been some calculations

> involved too- and thus has many interpretations.

>

> Its said once when the british ruled India one of

> the officers' children fell very sick and did not

> respond to any treatment- at that point in time an

> expert on lal kitab suggested a remedy and it worked

> .lal kitab shot into prominence thence.Right now it

> has become a compendium of simple remedial

> measures.And none of the interpretations of the

> kitab offer any logic behind it. thus a lot of

> confusion.Anyway the bottomline is the suffering

> person is open to try anything and thats just about

> it.

> regards,

> rambha.

> -

> Visti Larsen

> vedic astrology

> Monday, August 19, 2002 6:43 PM

> Re: [vedic astrology] Historical question

> on an existing system of astrology

>

>

> Vyam Vyasadevaaya Namah

>

>

 

>

> Dear VAS,

> throwing coal in a lake or digging roots out of a

> burial ground, will not bring you closer to god, and

> thats the only way to really get rid of karma.

> Best wishes, Visti.

> -

> vedicastrostudent

> vedic astrology

> Sunday, August 18, 2002 9:22 PM

> [vedic astrology] Historical question

> on an existing system of astrology

>

>

> Hello all,

> Some one gave me a remedy which I traced on the

> internet to stem

> from "Lal Kitab". What is "Lal Kitab" and what

> is it's relationship

> to the systems of astrology discussed in this

> newsgroup i.e. Parasari

> (?) and Jaimini(?), correct. What is it's

> origin? Is it in your

> experiences: contradictory, complementary, less

> powerful, more

> powerful or none of the above?

>

> Thank you in advance,

>

> VAS

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Jaya Jagannatha

Dear Rajinder ji

Gurudev Sanjay ji is very emphatic on NOT using any remedies prescribed by Lal

Kitab as they are Tamasic in nature. This goes back to basics as to why a

living entity suffers? We suffer on account of the Karmic reactions of our past

lives. Now the only way that is even mitigated or reduced is by increasing God

Consciousness. As Jyotishas our primary responsibility is to help the living

entity develop their spiritual life, because that would be a permanent cure for

their problems. On the other hand if we adopt or recommend Tamasic methods of

solving problems, we are only adding to an existing load of Bad Karma. There is

no use in curing the fever which is only a symptom when the real underlying

cause is a virus. So it is VERY important for us to avoid such remedies which

may contribute to additional Bad Karma. A good understanding of Karma and

Rebirth is absolutely essential for us to guide the fallen soul toward his

march toward Godhead.

Hare Krishna

Sudharsan-Woodbridge,NJ

Rajinder Nath wrote:

hello all,even if one donot think there is logic in remidiessuggested in lal

kitab there isnoharm to do it usally it says do good to other liviving creature

who werehere before us.or doing good to our fellow being whois handicapped is

certainly is a good karma.fact is it point us our deficiancy and we should

notbe judgemental to other.only it skipp calculative and math part of

itrajinder--- anukochhar <anukochhar (AT) sify (DOT) com> wrote:> Om sri hanumate namah,>

> lal kitab as far as I know ( the little I could> extract from my father who

is an astrologer himself> but refuses to read our charts ) was originally in>

Persian as far as i remember and most of it is by> word of mouth-there must

have been some calculations> involved too- and thus has many interpretations.>

> Its said once when the british ruled India one of> the officers' children

fell very sick and did not> respond to any treatment- at that point in time an>

expert on lal kitab suggested a remedy and it worked> .lal kitab shot into

prominence thence.Right now it> has become a compendium of simple remedial>

measures.And none of the interpretations of the> kitab offer any logic behind

it. thus a lot of> confusion.Anyway the bottomline is the suffering> person is

open to try anything and thats just about> it.> regards,> rambha.> -----

Original Message ----- > Visti Larsen > To:

vedic astrology > Monday, August 19, 2002 6:43 PM>

Re: [vedic astrology] Historical question> on an existing system of

astrology> > > Vyam Vyasadevaaya Namah>

>>

> Dear VAS,> throwing coal in a lake or digging roots out of a> burial

ground, will not bring you closer to god, and> thats the only way to really get

rid of karma.> Best wishes, Visti.> - >

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Kitab". What is "Lal Kitab" and what> is it's relationship > to the systems

of astrology discussed in this> newsgroup i.e. Parasari> (?) and Jaimini(?),

correct. What is it's> origin? Is it in your > experiences: contradictory,

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dear sudershan ji,

i regards sanjay ji very much he wrote me there are

few duplicateversion of lal kitab

but one i have none is tamasic remedies most of

remedies it suggest no drink no meat and doing service

to por and week

rajinder

--- Sudharsan Srinivasan <sudhar108 wrote:

>

> Hare Rama Krishna

> Jaya Jagannatha

> Dear Rajinder ji

> Gurudev Sanjay ji is very emphatic on NOT using any

> remedies prescribed by Lal Kitab as they are Tamasic

> in nature. This goes back to basics as to why a

> living entity suffers? We suffer on account of the

> Karmic reactions of our past lives. Now the only way

> that is even mitigated or reduced is by increasing

> God Consciousness. As Jyotishas our primary

> responsibility is to help the living entity develop

> their spiritual life, because that would be a

> permanent cure for their problems. On the other hand

> if we adopt or recommend Tamasic methods of solving

> problems, we are only adding to an existing load of

> Bad Karma. There is no use in curing the fever which

> is only a symptom when the real underlying cause is

> a virus. So it is VERY important for us to avoid

> such remedies which may contribute to additional Bad

> Karma. A good understanding of Karma and Rebirth is

> absolutely essential for us to guide the fallen soul

> toward his march toward Godhead.

> Hare Krishna

> Sudharsan-Woodbridge,NJ

> Rajinder Nath wrote:hello all,

> even if one donot think there is logic in remidies

> suggested in lal kitab there isnoharm to do it

> usally

> it says do good to other liviving creature who were

> here before us.or doing good to our fellow being who

> is handicapped is certainly is a good karma.

> fact is it point us our deficiancy and we should not

> be judgemental to other.

> only it skipp calculative and math part of it

> rajinder

>

> --- anukochhar <anukochhar wrote:

> > Om sri hanumate namah,

> >

> > lal kitab as far as I know ( the little I could

> > extract from my father who is an astrologer

> himself

> > but refuses to read our charts ) was originally in

> > Persian as far as i remember and most of it is by

> > word of mouth-there must have been some

> calculations

> > involved too- and thus has many interpretations.

> >

> > Its said once when the british ruled India one of

> > the officers' children fell very sick and did not

> > respond to any treatment- at that point in time an

> > expert on lal kitab suggested a remedy and it

> worked

> > .lal kitab shot into prominence thence.Right now

> it

> > has become a compendium of simple remedial

> > measures.And none of the interpretations of the

> > kitab offer any logic behind it. thus a lot of

> > confusion.Anyway the bottomline is the suffering

> > person is open to try anything and thats just

> about

> > it.

> > regards,

> > rambha.

> > -

> > Visti Larsen

> > vedic astrology

> > Monday, August 19, 2002 6:43 PM

> > Re: [vedic astrology] Historical

> question

> > on an existing system of astrology

> >

> >

> > Vyam Vyasadevaaya Namah

> >

> >

>

 

> >

> > Dear VAS,

> > throwing coal in a lake or digging roots out of

> a

> > burial ground, will not bring you closer to god,

> and

> > thats the only way to really get rid of karma.

> > Best wishes, Visti.

> > -

> > vedicastrostudent

> > vedic astrology

> > Sunday, August 18, 2002 9:22 PM

> > [vedic astrology] Historical question

> > on an existing system of astrology

> >

> >

> > Hello all,

> > Some one gave me a remedy which I traced on

> the

> > internet to stem

> > from "Lal Kitab". What is "Lal Kitab" and what

> > is it's relationship

> > to the systems of astrology discussed in this

> > newsgroup i.e. Parasari

> > (?) and Jaimini(?), correct. What is it's

> > origin? Is it in your

> > experiences: contradictory, complementary,

> less

> > powerful, more

> > powerful or none of the above?

> >

> > Thank you in advance,

> >

> > VAS

> >

> >

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