Guest guest Posted August 3, 2002 Report Share Posted August 3, 2002 Dear friends, I do apologize for placing my relocation mail without an explanation. I am well aware that relocation is a western technique and has no base in Jyotish (i.e BHPS, Jaimini etc). I found that a certain Vedic astrologer is advertising and using the western technique "baked" into Jyotish on the net (that is generating a jyotish based chart by using birth date & time with new location coordinates). Before commenting (read: criticizing) this individual (in my opinion this can damage the image of classic Jyotish), I simply wanted to check if anyone on the list is doing it. Using D-4 etc. is not the same as above as the original data remains unchanged. Thanks - God bless Jay Weiss Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 3, 2002 Report Share Posted August 3, 2002 It's not just one Vedic astrologer. Quite a few Vedic astrologers are adopting this Western technique. Not to flame anyone, but I believe that this may be economics driven. It may be the case that "relocation charts" is a service in high-demand, since a lot of people are relocating and want to find the optimal place to live. I for one am very skeptical about this technique. I view the chart as representing's one past karma, which should follow you every where you go. How can you escape your past karma by relocating to a new place? Now wouldn't everyone engineer their relocation to get the best possible chart? Atip vedic astrology, "Jay Weiss" <jayhw@t...> wrote: > Dear friends, > > I do apologize for placing my relocation mail without an explanation. > I am well aware that relocation is a western technique and has no base in > Jyotish (i.e BHPS, Jaimini etc). > I found that a certain Vedic astrologer is advertising and using the western > technique "baked" into Jyotish on the net (that is generating a jyotish > based chart by using birth date & time with new location coordinates). > Before commenting (read: criticizing) this individual (in my opinion this > can damage the image of classic Jyotish), > I simply wanted to check if anyone on the list is doing it. > Using D-4 etc. is not the same as above as the original data remains > unchanged. > > Thanks - God bless > > Jay Weiss Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 3, 2002 Report Share Posted August 3, 2002 Hi Atip and respected Vedic Astrologers, I am studying Western Astrology and also would like to learn Vedic Astrology. I have been relocating charts (I do not charge for doing Astrology) for some time and I really think that the results are there - for example, when I relocated my chart to India, my Venus became more important to me - it was sitting on the MC of the tropical chart for Delhi, India - and I went to India to be with the love of my life... if you know what I am saying - and there have been other examples that I would have to take some time to recall...... I deeply respect your opinion and I also feel that we cannot escape our karma - so how can we reconcile these two factors I wonder?? Please do not take offence - my mind is not fixed and I am willing to change my opinion when I am shown to be wrong and I also am willing to learn... Warm regards, Shamira M - atip_asvanund vedic astrology Sunday, August 04, 2002 9:37 AM [vedic astrology] Re: Relocation -> Clarification It's not just one Vedic astrologer. Quite a few Vedic astrologers areadopting this Western technique. Not to flame anyone, but I believethat this may be economics driven. It may be the case that "relocationcharts" is a service in high-demand, since a lot of people arerelocating and want to find the optimal place to live. I for one am very skeptical about this technique. I view the chart asrepresenting's one past karma, which should follow you every where yougo. How can you escape your past karma by relocating to a new place?Now wouldn't everyone engineer their relocation to get the bestpossible chart?Atipvedic astrology, "Jay Weiss" <jayhw@t...> wrote:> Dear friends,> > I do apologize for placing my relocation mail without an explanation.> I am well aware that relocation is a western technique and has nobase in> Jyotish (i.e BHPS, Jaimini etc).> I found that a certain Vedic astrologer is advertising and using thewestern> technique "baked" into Jyotish on the net (that is generating a jyotish> based chart by using birth date & time with new location coordinates).> Before commenting (read: criticizing) this individual (in my opinionthis> can damage the image of classic Jyotish),> I simply wanted to check if anyone on the list is doing it.> Using D-4 etc. is not the same as above as the original data remains> unchanged.> > Thanks - God bless> > Jay WeissArchives: vedic astrologyGroup info: vedic astrology/info.htmlTo UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology-....... May Jupiter's light shine on us .......|| Om Tat Sat || Sarvam Sri Krishnaarpanamastu || Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 3, 2002 Report Share Posted August 3, 2002 Dear Jay, As you said, relocating the birthchart based on the current place of residence is not granted by any Jyotish classic. In fact, you may consider the casting annual charts. Annual solar return chart of Tajaka system is cast every year when Sun returns to his exact natal position. Annual luni-solar return chart of Tithi Pravesha system is cast every year when Sun returns to his natal SIGN and Moon is at the same ANGLE from him as at birth. These two charts are cast every year and used for predicting the events in the year. As per tradition, the annual charts are cast for the birthplace in both the techniques, irrespective of where the person is living now (or at the beginning of the year)! If changing the place is not permitted even in annual solar/luni-solar return charts, there is absolutely no question of doing that in natal charts!! Of course, this does not prevent somebody from experimenting. People engage in all kinds of meaningful and meaningless experiments in the name of research and open-mindedness. How can we stop them? I personally wouldn't waste my time on such western-astrology- inspired researches, when there is A LOT OF ground to cover within the teachings of the tradition I belong to. We still have A LOT to learn within the teachings of Indian Sages like Parasara and Jaimini. There are a lot of nuances to learn from the tradition. One lifetime is not enough to master this subject. So I wouldn't waste my time on other researches. If that makes me closed-minded, so be it. If somebody thinks it works or wants to experiment, good luck! But be warned that this is absolutely non-Jyotish. Tradition clearly tells us to use the birth place for casting the annual charts. May Jupiter's light shine on us, Narasimha PS: However, Vedic astrology DOES have techniques that tell us which places are lucky for one and which are not. But D-4 of the same birthchart is used for this analysis. Chart is not re-cast for the new place. > Dear friends, > > I do apologize for placing my relocation mail without an explanation. > I am well aware that relocation is a western technique and has no base in > Jyotish (i.e BHPS, Jaimini etc). > I found that a certain Vedic astrologer is advertising and using the western > technique "baked" into Jyotish on the net (that is generating a jyotish > based chart by using birth date & time with new location coordinates). > Before commenting (read: criticizing) this individual (in my opinion this > can damage the image of classic Jyotish), > I simply wanted to check if anyone on the list is doing it. > Using D-4 etc. is not the same as above as the original data remains > unchanged. > > Thanks - God bless > > Jay Weiss Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 3, 2002 Report Share Posted August 3, 2002 Dear Atip, I fully agree. Karma is glued to you - like it or not. There is no escape. I also tend to agree that 'demand' and finacial issues may be the reason. However I take the advice of a senior guru of this list and decided to "get off the case". Although relocation is a karmic issue, the change is not necessarily always for the better ... Knd regards Jay Weiss - "atip_asvanund" <atip <vedic astrology> Sunday, August 04, 2002 2:07 AM [vedic astrology] Re: Relocation -> Clarification > It's not just one Vedic astrologer. Quite a few Vedic astrologers are > adopting this Western technique. Not to flame anyone, but I believe > that this may be economics driven. It may be the case that "relocation > charts" is a service in high-demand, since a lot of people are > relocating and want to find the optimal place to live. > > I for one am very skeptical about this technique. I view the chart as > representing's one past karma, which should follow you every where you > go. How can you escape your past karma by relocating to a new place? > Now wouldn't everyone engineer their relocation to get the best > possible chart? > > Atip > > > vedic astrology, "Jay Weiss" <jayhw@t...> wrote: > > Dear friends, > > > > I do apologize for placing my relocation mail without an explanation. > > I am well aware that relocation is a western technique and has no > base in > > Jyotish (i.e BHPS, Jaimini etc). > > I found that a certain Vedic astrologer is advertising and using the > western > > technique "baked" into Jyotish on the net (that is generating a jyotish > > based chart by using birth date & time with new location coordinates). > > Before commenting (read: criticizing) this individual (in my opinion > this > > can damage the image of classic Jyotish), > > I simply wanted to check if anyone on the list is doing it. > > Using D-4 etc. is not the same as above as the original data remains > > unchanged. > > > > Thanks - God bless > > > > Jay Weiss > > > > > > > > > ....... May Jupiter's light shine on us ....... > > > > Your use of is subject to > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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