Guest guest Posted June 28, 2002 Report Share Posted June 28, 2002 Dear Mohan, Correction: It was Shoola Dasa of Taurus & not Aries ( as in my previous post) .. Aries is aspected by Rudhras - How was the natives health during this time ? regards, Shriram vedic astrology, "shris1" <shris1> wrote: > Dear Mohan, > You have given a detailed analysis. > > w.r.t Shoola Dasa, the stronger is Cp due to aspect of Mer > on Cp. This gives Schoola Dasa of Aries (during the trouble). > > Ar has Moon and is aspected by Venus , Mars , Ketu & > Saturn!! > > To add to this, in D-16 Saturn & Moon are in the 8th house > (It was Moon dasa , Saturn bukthi Vimsottari). > > In D-6 , it was Narayana Dasa of Virgo / Sg. > Virgo is aspected by Rahu/Ketu/Mars . Sg has Rahu/Ketu/Mars & Virgo > is 12th from AL in D-6!! > > I thought Mother would have problems, it was based on the > following analysis: > > It was Moon/Sat/Rahu . Moon is in 4th house , aspected by Saturn and > Rahu is in 5th (Maraka to 4th). Sat is in badhaka stana from Moon . > Rahu is in 2nd from Moon. > > From D-12, Moon is 12th Lord from 4th house. Rahu/Sat are Marakas to > 4th (Mother). But the catch is i was not too sure if it would exactly > be on the 11/12th June. > > You had asked to Narasimhaji if the prayatna dasa would be Jup > instead of Rahu. Since Rahu afflicts D-6 Lagna i think it should be > prayatna of Rahu. > > -Shriram > > vedic astrology, "ANMOHIEY" <anmohiey@s...> wrote: > > JAI GURUDEV. > > > > Puzzle for mind refresh. > > > > I whole heartedly express my gratitude to all learned and friends > who made attempt on the puzzle. Sriram, Skanda Kumar, Krishna all > were getting clue about illness but of relatives. > > > > The birth details of the native are: October 11, 1965; 14-06 Hrs, > IST; 74E27; 14N26; TZ-05.30Hrs East of GMT. > > > > The native was about 1200KM away from his native place when he > breathed his last. He died of heart attack in very young age on night > of June 11, 2002 at about 28.30Hrs. I.e., wee hours ( about 04.30am) > of June 12th 2002. He reported to be had a fall from the cot/bed and > he was taken to the hospital to confirm he was dead. It was his very > first travelling from his native place to so long distance in his > life time. > > > > Here below I have explained very briefly,because of my limitations, > how the Dasa-Bhukti-Antara running were could have been studied to > have a clue. I have illustrated it with tools using KP system, > Conventional Parasari principle and Jaimini principles. I request all > seniors, learned and friends to give their views and express how they > are also feeling the period and transit were adverse to the native > which ultimately took the precious life. > > > > Conventional Parasari Method > > > > As per the chart details I am getting, the native was running with > Moon Dasa, Saturn Bhukti and Jupiter Antara (just start). > > > > Moon is Marakesha and in Navamsa he is sitting in maraka house of > second along with malefic Rahu. Saturn though Ascendant lord, is > heavily afflicted being lord of Mandi and 2nd house and additionally > positioned in the 2nd house. Jupiter is not only 12th lord but also > becomes 1st grade maraka being owner of 22nd dreccana. > > > > In Rudramsa, Rasi Maraka lord and Dasa lord Moon is sitting in 7th > (maraka) house and Bhukti lord has occupied another Maraka position, > 2nd house. Jupiter is positioned along with A8. > > > > All these lords, Dasa, Bhukti and Antara, Moon , Saturn and Jupiter > are in the constellation of Aswini, Shatabhisha and Aridra. Here, > though they are not exactly on Mrutyubhaga but are quite in > proximity. For these planets Mrutyubhaga is in the same star. Hence > in combination these three planets gave a fatal blow to native. > > > > Native's Jeeva Saham falls in the sign of Virgo and transit Saturn > and Natal 8th lord Sun were in trines to this. > > > > Jaimini Principle > > > > If we study longevity as per 3 pair methods. > > > > 1st lord 8th lord are placed in the sign of Aquarius and Libra. > Fixed + Moving = Medium life. > > > > Lagna and Hora Lagna are placed in the of Capricorn and Taurus. > Moving + Fixed = Medium life. > > > > Moon and Saturn are placed in the sign of Aries and Aquarius. > Moving + Fixed = Medium life. > > > > Medium life span is from 36 years to 72 years. Hence Native is > guaranteed upto longevity minimum 36 years. > > > > Shoola dasa starts either from 1st house or 7th house, which ever > is stronger. Both these houses contain no planets. 7th house lord > Moon is aspected (Rasi aspect-Jaimini principle) by more planets (By > Mars, Venus and Saturn) and hence Dasa shall start from Cancer. Dasa > of each 9 years span that of Cancer, Leo, Virgo and Libra falls in > the pre-medium life span. Dasa of Scorpio started for native from > October 11, 2001. Scorpio antara was in still progress. Scorpio is > bereft of aspect from both Jupiter and AK, Sun. It is in trines to AL > (Pisces). There is strong Maraka Rudra yoga (aspect and or > conjunction of Mars and Moon or Moon and Venus) casting on the sign > Scorpio. Apart from this Moon is Marakesha, Mars is Badhakesha, Venus > is lord of Mrutyupada and Ketu is Nivraththi Karaka. Malefic Rahu and > Saturn extend their graha dhrusti on sign Ascorpio. All this in > combination did not allow the native to out live Scorpio-Scorpio > Shoola dasa. > > > > Rahu placed in the 3rd from the AL, indicates sudden death, like > because of bombing etc. > > > > Fourth from the Moon fourth is Cancer which indicates area of > trouble, in this case it is heart. > > > > KP System > > > > As per the KP Ayanamsa, The native was running with Moon Dasa, > Saturn Bhukti and Rahu Antara > > > > Moon is lord of 7th and hence first grade maraka. The Moon was > placed in the star of Ketu and in the sub of Sun (lord of 8th house). > Ketu is in the company of Badhakesha Mars and gets empowered to > operate as Badhakesha. > > > > Saturn is sitting in 2nd house, house of Maraka and also he rules > this Maraka house. He is placed in the star of Rahu and sub of Moon. > Moon is afflicted as explained above. Rahu is receiving very close > aspect from Bhadhakesha Mars. His dispositor, Venus is placed along > with this Mars. Rahu is in the star of Moon and sub of his own. This > is how it is very bad for longevity. > > > > Rahu is also ascendant sub lord and connects the native with Maraka > and Badhaka houses/planets. > > > > In transit, Antara lord who took the native away from home was > transiting in Mars constellation and was in the close conjunction of > Maraka Saturn, 8th lord Sun and moving in the constellation of > Badhaka Mars. Bhukti lord Saturn, who himself is powerful maraka was > transiting in the star of Badhaka Mars and in close conjunction with > dreaded planet Rahu. Dasa and maraka lord Moon was transiting in the > constellation of Rahu and was accompanied by 12th lord Jupiter and > Badhaka, Mars. The ascendant believed to be Taurus in the > constellation of Moon when the native declared dead. > > > > From the above instant, can we infer that, various methodogy in > practice in astrology, if used properly would lead for the same > conclusion without any hassles. > > > > > > > > Mohan Hegde. > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 29, 2002 Report Share Posted June 29, 2002 JAI GURUDEV. Dear Sriram, You are quite right that there were clues in the directions you thought. But Bkukti lord Saturn might be more indicative of native himself being victim. The native never had any serious ailments in past. He was hale and hearty. There was not slightest hint about his end because of heart attack. I prefer to clung on to selection of Shoola dasa starting from Cancer owing to the reason I mentioned in the other mail. Regards and Wishes, Mohan Hegde. - shris1 vedic astrology Saturday, June 29, 2002 12:58 AM [vedic astrology] Re: Puzzle for mind refresh-answer. - Correction Dear Mohan, Correction: It was Shoola Dasa of Taurus & not Aries ( as in my previous post) . Aries is aspected by Rudhras - How was the natives health during this time ? regards, Shriram vedic astrology, "shris1" <shris1> wrote: > Dear Mohan, > You have given a detailed analysis. > > w.r.t Shoola Dasa, the stronger is Cp due to aspect of Mer > on Cp. This gives Schoola Dasa of Aries (during the trouble). > > Ar has Moon and is aspected by Venus , Mars , Ketu & > Saturn!! > > To add to this, in D-16 Saturn & Moon are in the 8th house > (It was Moon dasa , Saturn bukthi Vimsottari). > > In D-6 , it was Narayana Dasa of Virgo / Sg. > Virgo is aspected by Rahu/Ketu/Mars . Sg has Rahu/Ketu/Mars & Virgo > is 12th from AL in D-6!! > > I thought Mother would have problems, it was based on the > following analysis: > > It was Moon/Sat/Rahu . Moon is in 4th house , aspected by Saturn and > Rahu is in 5th (Maraka to 4th). Sat is in badhaka stana from Moon . > Rahu is in 2nd from Moon. > > From D-12, Moon is 12th Lord from 4th house. Rahu/Sat are Marakas to > 4th (Mother). But the catch is i was not too sure if it would exactly > be on the 11/12th June. > > You had asked to Narasimhaji if the prayatna dasa would be Jup > instead of Rahu. Since Rahu afflicts D-6 Lagna i think it should be > prayatna of Rahu. > > -Shriram > > vedic astrology, "ANMOHIEY" <anmohiey@s...> wrote: > > JAI GURUDEV. > > > > Puzzle for mind refresh. > > > > I whole heartedly express my gratitude to all learned and friends > who made attempt on the puzzle. Sriram, Skanda Kumar, Krishna all > were getting clue about illness but of relatives. > > > > The birth details of the native are: October 11, 1965; 14-06 Hrs, > IST; 74E27; 14N26; TZ-05.30Hrs East of GMT. > > > > The native was about 1200KM away from his native place when he > breathed his last. He died of heart attack in very young age on night > of June 11, 2002 at about 28.30Hrs. I.e., wee hours ( about 04.30am) > of June 12th 2002. He reported to be had a fall from the cot/bed and > he was taken to the hospital to confirm he was dead. It was his very > first travelling from his native place to so long distance in his > life time. > > > > Here below I have explained very briefly,because of my limitations, > how the Dasa-Bhukti-Antara running were could have been studied to > have a clue. I have illustrated it with tools using KP system, > Conventional Parasari principle and Jaimini principles. I request all > seniors, learned and friends to give their views and express how they > are also feeling the period and transit were adverse to the native > which ultimately took the precious life. > > > > Conventional Parasari Method > > > > As per the chart details I am getting, the native was running with > Moon Dasa, Saturn Bhukti and Jupiter Antara (just start). > > > > Moon is Marakesha and in Navamsa he is sitting in maraka house of > second along with malefic Rahu. Saturn though Ascendant lord, is > heavily afflicted being lord of Mandi and 2nd house and additionally > positioned in the 2nd house. Jupiter is not only 12th lord but also > becomes 1st grade maraka being owner of 22nd dreccana. > > > > In Rudramsa, Rasi Maraka lord and Dasa lord Moon is sitting in 7th > (maraka) house and Bhukti lord has occupied another Maraka position, > 2nd house. Jupiter is positioned along with A8. > > > > All these lords, Dasa, Bhukti and Antara, Moon , Saturn and Jupiter > are in the constellation of Aswini, Shatabhisha and Aridra. Here, > though they are not exactly on Mrutyubhaga but are quite in > proximity. For these planets Mrutyubhaga is in the same star. Hence > in combination these three planets gave a fatal blow to native. > > > > Native's Jeeva Saham falls in the sign of Virgo and transit Saturn > and Natal 8th lord Sun were in trines to this. > > > > Jaimini Principle > > > > If we study longevity as per 3 pair methods. > > > > 1st lord 8th lord are placed in the sign of Aquarius and Libra. > Fixed + Moving = Medium life. > > > > Lagna and Hora Lagna are placed in the of Capricorn and Taurus. > Moving + Fixed = Medium life. > > > > Moon and Saturn are placed in the sign of Aries and Aquarius. > Moving + Fixed = Medium life. > > > > Medium life span is from 36 years to 72 years. Hence Native is > guaranteed upto longevity minimum 36 years. > > > > Shoola dasa starts either from 1st house or 7th house, which ever > is stronger. Both these houses contain no planets. 7th house lord > Moon is aspected (Rasi aspect-Jaimini principle) by more planets (By > Mars, Venus and Saturn) and hence Dasa shall start from Cancer. Dasa > of each 9 years span that of Cancer, Leo, Virgo and Libra falls in > the pre-medium life span. Dasa of Scorpio started for native from > October 11, 2001. Scorpio antara was in still progress. Scorpio is > bereft of aspect from both Jupiter and AK, Sun. It is in trines to AL > (Pisces). There is strong Maraka Rudra yoga (aspect and or > conjunction of Mars and Moon or Moon and Venus) casting on the sign > Scorpio. Apart from this Moon is Marakesha, Mars is Badhakesha, Venus > is lord of Mrutyupada and Ketu is Nivraththi Karaka. Malefic Rahu and > Saturn extend their graha dhrusti on sign Ascorpio. All this in > combination did not allow the native to out live Scorpio-Scorpio > Shoola dasa. > > > > Rahu placed in the 3rd from the AL, indicates sudden death, like > because of bombing etc. > > > > Fourth from the Moon fourth is Cancer which indicates area of > trouble, in this case it is heart. > > > > KP System > > > > As per the KP Ayanamsa, The native was running with Moon Dasa, > Saturn Bhukti and Rahu Antara > > > > Moon is lord of 7th and hence first grade maraka. The Moon was > placed in the star of Ketu and in the sub of Sun (lord of 8th house). > Ketu is in the company of Badhakesha Mars and gets empowered to > operate as Badhakesha. > > > > Saturn is sitting in 2nd house, house of Maraka and also he rules > this Maraka house. He is placed in the star of Rahu and sub of Moon. > Moon is afflicted as explained above. Rahu is receiving very close > aspect from Bhadhakesha Mars. His dispositor, Venus is placed along > with this Mars. Rahu is in the star of Moon and sub of his own. This > is how it is very bad for longevity. > > > > Rahu is also ascendant sub lord and connects the native with Maraka > and Badhaka houses/planets. > > > > In transit, Antara lord who took the native away from home was > transiting in Mars constellation and was in the close conjunction of > Maraka Saturn, 8th lord Sun and moving in the constellation of > Badhaka Mars. Bhukti lord Saturn, who himself is powerful maraka was > transiting in the star of Badhaka Mars and in close conjunction with > dreaded planet Rahu. Dasa and maraka lord Moon was transiting in the > constellation of Rahu and was accompanied by 12th lord Jupiter and > Badhaka, Mars. The ascendant believed to be Taurus in the > constellation of Moon when the native declared dead. > > > > From the above instant, can we infer that, various methodogy in > practice in astrology, if used properly would lead for the same > conclusion without any hassles. > > > > > > > > Mohan Hegde. > > > > > > > > ....... May Jupiter's light shine on us ....... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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