Guest guest Posted June 28, 2002 Report Share Posted June 28, 2002 JAI GURUDEV. Puzzle for mind refresh. I whole heartedly express my gratitude to all learned and friends who made attempt on the puzzle. Sriram, Skanda Kumar, Krishna all were getting clue about illness but of relatives. The birth details of the native are: October 11, 1965; 14-06 Hrs, IST; 74E27; 14N26; TZ-05.30Hrs East of GMT. The native was about 1200KM away from his native place when he breathed his last. He died of heart attack in very young age on night of June 11, 2002 at about 28.30Hrs. I.e., wee hours ( about 04.30am) of June 12th 2002. He reported to be had a fall from the cot/bed and he was taken to the hospital to confirm he was dead. It was his very first travelling from his native place to so long distance in his life time. Here below I have explained very briefly,because of my limitations, how the Dasa-Bhukti-Antara running were could have been studied to have a clue. I have illustrated it with tools using KP system, Conventional Parasari principle and Jaimini principles. I request all seniors, learned and friends to give their views and express how they are also feeling the period and transit were adverse to the native which ultimately took the precious life. Conventional Parasari Method As per the chart details I am getting, the native was running with Moon Dasa, Saturn Bhukti and Jupiter Antara (just start). Moon is Marakesha and in Navamsa he is sitting in maraka house of second along with malefic Rahu. Saturn though Ascendant lord, is heavily afflicted being lord of Mandi and 2nd house and additionally positioned in the 2nd house. Jupiter is not only 12th lord but also becomes 1st grade maraka being owner of 22nd dreccana. In Rudramsa, Rasi Maraka lord and Dasa lord Moon is sitting in 7th (maraka) house and Bhukti lord has occupied another Maraka position, 2nd house. Jupiter is positioned along with A8. All these lords, Dasa, Bhukti and Antara, Moon , Saturn and Jupiter are in the constellation of Aswini, Shatabhisha and Aridra. Here, though they are not exactly on Mrutyubhaga but are quite in proximity. For these planets Mrutyubhaga is in the same star. Hence in combination these three planets gave a fatal blow to native. Native's Jeeva Saham falls in the sign of Virgo and transit Saturn and Natal 8th lord Sun were in trines to this. Jaimini Principle If we study longevity as per 3 pair methods. 1st lord 8th lord are placed in the sign of Aquarius and Libra. Fixed + Moving = Medium life. Lagna and Hora Lagna are placed in the of Capricorn and Taurus. Moving + Fixed = Medium life. Moon and Saturn are placed in the sign of Aries and Aquarius. Moving + Fixed = Medium life. Medium life span is from 36 years to 72 years. Hence Native is guaranteed upto longevity minimum 36 years. Shoola dasa starts either from 1st house or 7th house, which ever is stronger. Both these houses contain no planets. 7th house lord Moon is aspected (Rasi aspect-Jaimini principle) by more planets (By Mars, Venus and Saturn) and hence Dasa shall start from Cancer. Dasa of each 9 years span that of Cancer, Leo, Virgo and Libra falls in the pre-medium life span. Dasa of Scorpio started for native from October 11, 2001. Scorpio antara was in still progress. Scorpio is bereft of aspect from both Jupiter and AK, Sun. It is in trines to AL (Pisces). There is strong Maraka Rudra yoga (aspect and or conjunction of Mars and Moon or Moon and Venus) casting on the sign Scorpio. Apart from this Moon is Marakesha, Mars is Badhakesha, Venus is lord of Mrutyupada and Ketu is Nivraththi Karaka. Malefic Rahu and Saturn extend their graha dhrusti on sign Ascorpio. All this in combination did not allow the native to out live Scorpio-Scorpio Shoola dasa. Rahu placed in the 3rd from the AL, indicates sudden death, like because of bombing etc. Fourth from the Moon fourth is Cancer which indicates area of trouble, in this case it is heart. KP System As per the KP Ayanamsa, The native was running with Moon Dasa, Saturn Bhukti and Rahu Antara Moon is lord of 7th and hence first grade maraka. The Moon was placed in the star of Ketu and in the sub of Sun (lord of 8th house). Ketu is in the company of Badhakesha Mars and gets empowered to operate as Badhakesha. Saturn is sitting in 2nd house, house of Maraka and also he rules this Maraka house. He is placed in the star of Rahu and sub of Moon. Moon is afflicted as explained above. Rahu is receiving very close aspect from Bhadhakesha Mars. His dispositor, Venus is placed along with this Mars. Rahu is in the star of Moon and sub of his own. This is how it is very bad for longevity. Rahu is also ascendant sub lord and connects the native with Maraka and Badhaka houses/planets. In transit, Antara lord who took the native away from home was transiting in Mars constellation and was in the close conjunction of Maraka Saturn, 8th lord Sun and moving in the constellation of Badhaka Mars. Bhukti lord Saturn, who himself is powerful maraka was transiting in the star of Badhaka Mars and in close conjunction with dreaded planet Rahu. Dasa and maraka lord Moon was transiting in the constellation of Rahu and was accompanied by 12th lord Jupiter and Badhaka, Mars. The ascendant believed to be Taurus in the constellation of Moon when the native declared dead. >From the above instant, can we infer that, various methodogy in practice in astrology, if used properly would lead for the same conclusion without any hassles. Mohan Hegde. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 28, 2002 Report Share Posted June 28, 2002 Dear Mohan, You have given a detailed analysis. w.r.t Shoola Dasa, the stronger is Cp due to aspect of Mer on Cp. This gives Schoola Dasa of Aries (during the trouble). Ar has Moon and is aspected by Venus , Mars , Ketu & Saturn!! To add to this, in D-16 Saturn & Moon are in the 8th house (It was Moon dasa , Saturn bukthi Vimsottari). In D-6 , it was Narayana Dasa of Virgo / Sg. Virgo is aspected by Rahu/Ketu/Mars . Sg has Rahu/Ketu/Mars & Virgo is 12th from AL in D-6!! I thought Mother would have problems, it was based on the following analysis: It was Moon/Sat/Rahu . Moon is in 4th house , aspected by Saturn and Rahu is in 5th (Maraka to 4th). Sat is in badhaka stana from Moon . Rahu is in 2nd from Moon. >From D-12, Moon is 12th Lord from 4th house. Rahu/Sat are Marakas to 4th (Mother). But the catch is i was not too sure if it would exactly be on the 11/12th June. You had asked to Narasimhaji if the prayatna dasa would be Jup instead of Rahu. Since Rahu afflicts D-6 Lagna i think it should be prayatna of Rahu. -Shriram vedic astrology, "ANMOHIEY" <anmohiey@s...> wrote: > JAI GURUDEV. > > Puzzle for mind refresh. > > I whole heartedly express my gratitude to all learned and friends who made attempt on the puzzle. Sriram, Skanda Kumar, Krishna all were getting clue about illness but of relatives. > > The birth details of the native are: October 11, 1965; 14-06 Hrs, IST; 74E27; 14N26; TZ-05.30Hrs East of GMT. > > The native was about 1200KM away from his native place when he breathed his last. He died of heart attack in very young age on night of June 11, 2002 at about 28.30Hrs. I.e., wee hours ( about 04.30am) of June 12th 2002. He reported to be had a fall from the cot/bed and he was taken to the hospital to confirm he was dead. It was his very first travelling from his native place to so long distance in his life time. > > Here below I have explained very briefly,because of my limitations, how the Dasa-Bhukti-Antara running were could have been studied to have a clue. I have illustrated it with tools using KP system, Conventional Parasari principle and Jaimini principles. I request all seniors, learned and friends to give their views and express how they are also feeling the period and transit were adverse to the native which ultimately took the precious life. > > Conventional Parasari Method > > As per the chart details I am getting, the native was running with Moon Dasa, Saturn Bhukti and Jupiter Antara (just start). > > Moon is Marakesha and in Navamsa he is sitting in maraka house of second along with malefic Rahu. Saturn though Ascendant lord, is heavily afflicted being lord of Mandi and 2nd house and additionally positioned in the 2nd house. Jupiter is not only 12th lord but also becomes 1st grade maraka being owner of 22nd dreccana. > > In Rudramsa, Rasi Maraka lord and Dasa lord Moon is sitting in 7th (maraka) house and Bhukti lord has occupied another Maraka position, 2nd house. Jupiter is positioned along with A8. > > All these lords, Dasa, Bhukti and Antara, Moon , Saturn and Jupiter are in the constellation of Aswini, Shatabhisha and Aridra. Here, though they are not exactly on Mrutyubhaga but are quite in proximity. For these planets Mrutyubhaga is in the same star. Hence in combination these three planets gave a fatal blow to native. > > Native's Jeeva Saham falls in the sign of Virgo and transit Saturn and Natal 8th lord Sun were in trines to this. > > Jaimini Principle > > If we study longevity as per 3 pair methods. > > 1st lord 8th lord are placed in the sign of Aquarius and Libra. Fixed + Moving = Medium life. > > Lagna and Hora Lagna are placed in the of Capricorn and Taurus. Moving + Fixed = Medium life. > > Moon and Saturn are placed in the sign of Aries and Aquarius. Moving + Fixed = Medium life. > > Medium life span is from 36 years to 72 years. Hence Native is guaranteed upto longevity minimum 36 years. > > Shoola dasa starts either from 1st house or 7th house, which ever is stronger. Both these houses contain no planets. 7th house lord Moon is aspected (Rasi aspect-Jaimini principle) by more planets (By Mars, Venus and Saturn) and hence Dasa shall start from Cancer. Dasa of each 9 years span that of Cancer, Leo, Virgo and Libra falls in the pre-medium life span. Dasa of Scorpio started for native from October 11, 2001. Scorpio antara was in still progress. Scorpio is bereft of aspect from both Jupiter and AK, Sun. It is in trines to AL (Pisces). There is strong Maraka Rudra yoga (aspect and or conjunction of Mars and Moon or Moon and Venus) casting on the sign Scorpio. Apart from this Moon is Marakesha, Mars is Badhakesha, Venus is lord of Mrutyupada and Ketu is Nivraththi Karaka. Malefic Rahu and Saturn extend their graha dhrusti on sign Ascorpio. All this in combination did not allow the native to out live Scorpio-Scorpio Shoola dasa. > > Rahu placed in the 3rd from the AL, indicates sudden death, like because of bombing etc. > > Fourth from the Moon fourth is Cancer which indicates area of trouble, in this case it is heart. > > KP System > > As per the KP Ayanamsa, The native was running with Moon Dasa, Saturn Bhukti and Rahu Antara > > Moon is lord of 7th and hence first grade maraka. The Moon was placed in the star of Ketu and in the sub of Sun (lord of 8th house). Ketu is in the company of Badhakesha Mars and gets empowered to operate as Badhakesha. > > Saturn is sitting in 2nd house, house of Maraka and also he rules this Maraka house. He is placed in the star of Rahu and sub of Moon. Moon is afflicted as explained above. Rahu is receiving very close aspect from Bhadhakesha Mars. His dispositor, Venus is placed along with this Mars. Rahu is in the star of Moon and sub of his own. This is how it is very bad for longevity. > > Rahu is also ascendant sub lord and connects the native with Maraka and Badhaka houses/planets. > > In transit, Antara lord who took the native away from home was transiting in Mars constellation and was in the close conjunction of Maraka Saturn, 8th lord Sun and moving in the constellation of Badhaka Mars. Bhukti lord Saturn, who himself is powerful maraka was transiting in the star of Badhaka Mars and in close conjunction with dreaded planet Rahu. Dasa and maraka lord Moon was transiting in the constellation of Rahu and was accompanied by 12th lord Jupiter and Badhaka, Mars. The ascendant believed to be Taurus in the constellation of Moon when the native declared dead. > > From the above instant, can we infer that, various methodogy in practice in astrology, if used properly would lead for the same conclusion without any hassles. > > > > Mohan Hegde. > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 28, 2002 Report Share Posted June 28, 2002 om gurave namah --------------- Dear Mohan, Thanks for the puzzle. Actually, Shoola Dasa of Taurus-Taurus was running. Capricorn is stronger than Cancer, as its lord Saturn is more advanced than Moon! Taurus is 3H from AL, and hence represents sudden death! D1 Narayana Dasa of Vi-Aq-Ta was running. Note how Aq Maraka Rasi & Rahu Maraka lord are prominent. Moreover, Virgo houses 8L Sun. Most interestingly & importantly, Dasa Pravesha Chakra of Aq PD, showed Scorpio rising, with Lagna lord in 8H with 2L Jupiter & another marak lord Venus! Aq housed baadhaka lord Moon in it! The placement of 9L in Aquarius, combined with 9H indications in Rasi chart, made me think it was pertaining to his father. But, I think this is clear enough. Regards Skanda vedic astrology, "ANMOHIEY" <anmohiey@s...> wrote: > JAI GURUDEV. > > Puzzle for mind refresh. > > I whole heartedly express my gratitude to all learned and friends who made attempt on the puzzle. Sriram, Skanda Kumar, Krishna all were getting clue about illness but of relatives. > > The birth details of the native are: October 11, 1965; 14-06 Hrs, IST; 74E27; 14N26; TZ-05.30Hrs East of GMT. > > The native was about 1200KM away from his native place when he breathed his last. He died of heart attack in very young age on night of June 11, 2002 at about 28.30Hrs. I.e., wee hours ( about 04.30am) of June 12th 2002. He reported to be had a fall from the cot/bed and he was taken to the hospital to confirm he was dead. It was his very first travelling from his native place to so long distance in his life time. > > Here below I have explained very briefly,because of my limitations, how the Dasa-Bhukti-Antara running were could have been studied to have a clue. I have illustrated it with tools using KP system, Conventional Parasari principle and Jaimini principles. I request all seniors, learned and friends to give their views and express how they are also feeling the period and transit were adverse to the native which ultimately took the precious life. > > Conventional Parasari Method > > As per the chart details I am getting, the native was running with Moon Dasa, Saturn Bhukti and Jupiter Antara (just start). > > Moon is Marakesha and in Navamsa he is sitting in maraka house of second along with malefic Rahu. Saturn though Ascendant lord, is heavily afflicted being lord of Mandi and 2nd house and additionally positioned in the 2nd house. Jupiter is not only 12th lord but also becomes 1st grade maraka being owner of 22nd dreccana. > > In Rudramsa, Rasi Maraka lord and Dasa lord Moon is sitting in 7th (maraka) house and Bhukti lord has occupied another Maraka position, 2nd house. Jupiter is positioned along with A8. > > All these lords, Dasa, Bhukti and Antara, Moon , Saturn and Jupiter are in the constellation of Aswini, Shatabhisha and Aridra. Here, though they are not exactly on Mrutyubhaga but are quite in proximity. For these planets Mrutyubhaga is in the same star. Hence in combination these three planets gave a fatal blow to native. > > Native's Jeeva Saham falls in the sign of Virgo and transit Saturn and Natal 8th lord Sun were in trines to this. > > Jaimini Principle > > If we study longevity as per 3 pair methods. > > 1st lord 8th lord are placed in the sign of Aquarius and Libra. Fixed + Moving = Medium life. > > Lagna and Hora Lagna are placed in the of Capricorn and Taurus. Moving + Fixed = Medium life. > > Moon and Saturn are placed in the sign of Aries and Aquarius. Moving + Fixed = Medium life. > > Medium life span is from 36 years to 72 years. Hence Native is guaranteed upto longevity minimum 36 years. > > Shoola dasa starts either from 1st house or 7th house, which ever is stronger. Both these houses contain no planets. 7th house lord Moon is aspected (Rasi aspect-Jaimini principle) by more planets (By Mars, Venus and Saturn) and hence Dasa shall start from Cancer. Dasa of each 9 years span that of Cancer, Leo, Virgo and Libra falls in the pre-medium life span. Dasa of Scorpio started for native from October 11, 2001. Scorpio antara was in still progress. Scorpio is bereft of aspect from both Jupiter and AK, Sun. It is in trines to AL (Pisces). There is strong Maraka Rudra yoga (aspect and or conjunction of Mars and Moon or Moon and Venus) casting on the sign Scorpio. Apart from this Moon is Marakesha, Mars is Badhakesha, Venus is lord of Mrutyupada and Ketu is Nivraththi Karaka. Malefic Rahu and Saturn extend their graha dhrusti on sign Ascorpio. All this in combination did not allow the native to out live Scorpio- Scorpio Shoola dasa. > > Rahu placed in the 3rd from the AL, indicates sudden death, like because of bombing etc. > > Fourth from the Moon fourth is Cancer which indicates area of trouble, in this case it is heart. > > KP System > > As per the KP Ayanamsa, The native was running with Moon Dasa, Saturn Bhukti and Rahu Antara > > Moon is lord of 7th and hence first grade maraka. The Moon was placed in the star of Ketu and in the sub of Sun (lord of 8th house). Ketu is in the company of Badhakesha Mars and gets empowered to operate as Badhakesha. > > Saturn is sitting in 2nd house, house of Maraka and also he rules this Maraka house. He is placed in the star of Rahu and sub of Moon. Moon is afflicted as explained above. Rahu is receiving very close aspect from Bhadhakesha Mars. His dispositor, Venus is placed along with this Mars. Rahu is in the star of Moon and sub of his own. This is how it is very bad for longevity. > > Rahu is also ascendant sub lord and connects the native with Maraka and Badhaka houses/planets. > > In transit, Antara lord who took the native away from home was transiting in Mars constellation and was in the close conjunction of Maraka Saturn, 8th lord Sun and moving in the constellation of Badhaka Mars. Bhukti lord Saturn, who himself is powerful maraka was transiting in the star of Badhaka Mars and in close conjunction with dreaded planet Rahu. Dasa and maraka lord Moon was transiting in the constellation of Rahu and was accompanied by 12th lord Jupiter and Badhaka, Mars. The ascendant believed to be Taurus in the constellation of Moon when the native declared dead. > > From the above instant, can we infer that, various methodogy in practice in astrology, if used properly would lead for the same conclusion without any hassles. > > > > Mohan Hegde. > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 29, 2002 Report Share Posted June 29, 2002 Om Gurave Namah, Om Namah Shivaya, Dear Jyotishas, list members and Mohan, I was just thinking why the Tithi,Rising lagna, Sun sign(trines to A8) of death does not match with the chart as given in CoVA. Is there something more to these rules to be understood?. Is the chart given correct?(I am sorry but just was curious). Warm Regards S.Prabhakaran (Is it possible that it's Aquarius lagna?) - ANMOHIEY vedic astrology Friday, June 28, 2002 11:24 AM [vedic astrology] Puzzle for mind refresh-answer. JAI GURUDEV. Puzzle for mind refresh. I whole heartedly express my gratitude to all learned and friends who made attempt on the puzzle. Sriram, Skanda Kumar, Krishna all were getting clue about illness but of relatives. The birth details of the native are: October 11, 1965; 14-06 Hrs, IST; 74E27; 14N26; TZ-05.30Hrs East of GMT. The native was about 1200KM away from his native place when he breathed his last. He died of heart attack in very young age on night of June 11, 2002 at about 28.30Hrs. I.e., wee hours ( about 04.30am) of June 12th 2002. He reported to be had a fall from the cot/bed and he was taken to the hospital to confirm he was dead. It was his very first travelling from his native place to so long distance in his life time. Here below I have explained very briefly,because of my limitations, how the Dasa-Bhukti-Antara running were could have been studied to have a clue. I have illustrated it with tools using KP system, Conventional Parasari principle and Jaimini principles. I request all seniors, learned and friends to give their views and express how they are also feeling the period and transit were adverse to the native which ultimately took the precious life. Conventional Parasari Method As per the chart details I am getting, the native was running with Moon Dasa, Saturn Bhukti and Jupiter Antara (just start). Moon is Marakesha and in Navamsa he is sitting in maraka house of second along with malefic Rahu. Saturn though Ascendant lord, is heavily afflicted being lord of Mandi and 2nd house and additionally positioned in the 2nd house. Jupiter is not only 12th lord but also becomes 1st grade maraka being owner of 22nd dreccana. In Rudramsa, Rasi Maraka lord and Dasa lord Moon is sitting in 7th (maraka) house and Bhukti lord has occupied another Maraka position, 2nd house. Jupiter is positioned along with A8. All these lords, Dasa, Bhukti and Antara, Moon , Saturn and Jupiter are in the constellation of Aswini, Shatabhisha and Aridra. Here, though they are not exactly on Mrutyubhaga but are quite in proximity. For these planets Mrutyubhaga is in the same star. Hence in combination these three planets gave a fatal blow to native. Native's Jeeva Saham falls in the sign of Virgo and transit Saturn and Natal 8th lord Sun were in trines to this. Jaimini Principle If we study longevity as per 3 pair methods. 1st lord 8th lord are placed in the sign of Aquarius and Libra. Fixed + Moving = Medium life. Lagna and Hora Lagna are placed in the of Capricorn and Taurus. Moving + Fixed = Medium life. Moon and Saturn are placed in the sign of Aries and Aquarius. Moving + Fixed = Medium life. Medium life span is from 36 years to 72 years. Hence Native is guaranteed upto longevity minimum 36 years. Shoola dasa starts either from 1st house or 7th house, which ever is stronger. Both these houses contain no planets. 7th house lord Moon is aspected (Rasi aspect-Jaimini principle) by more planets (By Mars, Venus and Saturn) and hence Dasa shall start from Cancer. Dasa of each 9 years span that of Cancer, Leo, Virgo and Libra falls in the pre-medium life span. Dasa of Scorpio started for native from October 11, 2001. Scorpio antara was in still progress. Scorpio is bereft of aspect from both Jupiter and AK, Sun. It is in trines to AL (Pisces). There is strong Maraka Rudra yoga (aspect and or conjunction of Mars and Moon or Moon and Venus) casting on the sign Scorpio. Apart from this Moon is Marakesha, Mars is Badhakesha, Venus is lord of Mrutyupada and Ketu is Nivraththi Karaka. Malefic Rahu and Saturn extend their graha dhrusti on sign Ascorpio. All this in combination did not allow the native to out live Scorpio-Scorpio Shoola dasa. Rahu placed in the 3rd from the AL, indicates sudden death, like because of bombing etc. Fourth from the Moon fourth is Cancer which indicates area of trouble, in this case it is heart. KP System As per the KP Ayanamsa, The native was running with Moon Dasa, Saturn Bhukti and Rahu Antara Moon is lord of 7th and hence first grade maraka. The Moon was placed in the star of Ketu and in the sub of Sun (lord of 8th house). Ketu is in the company of Badhakesha Mars and gets empowered to operate as Badhakesha. Saturn is sitting in 2nd house, house of Maraka and also he rules this Maraka house. He is placed in the star of Rahu and sub of Moon. Moon is afflicted as explained above. Rahu is receiving very close aspect from Bhadhakesha Mars. His dispositor, Venus is placed along with this Mars. Rahu is in the star of Moon and sub of his own. This is how it is very bad for longevity. Rahu is also ascendant sub lord and connects the native with Maraka and Badhaka houses/planets. In transit, Antara lord who took the native away from home was transiting in Mars constellation and was in the close conjunction of Maraka Saturn, 8th lord Sun and moving in the constellation of Badhaka Mars. Bhukti lord Saturn, who himself is powerful maraka was transiting in the star of Badhaka Mars and in close conjunction with dreaded planet Rahu. Dasa and maraka lord Moon was transiting in the constellation of Rahu and was accompanied by 12th lord Jupiter and Badhaka, Mars. The ascendant believed to be Taurus in the constellation of Moon when the native declared dead. >From the above instant, can we infer that, various methodogy in practice in astrology, if used properly would lead for the same conclusion without any hassles. Mohan Hegde. ....... May Jupiter's light shine on us ....... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 29, 2002 Report Share Posted June 29, 2002 JAI GURUDEV. Dear Skanda Kumar and Sriram, As you have stated, even clue could have been arrived from Narayana Dasa as well. Thanks for your explanation. I differ from the idea of starting Shoola dasa from Capricorn for the reason mentioned in the last mail. Please don't think that for sake of defending my wrong selection of Dasa sign I am just arguing. I have seen, if I am right, even Gurudeva following this principle. When, lord of the sign being aspected by more planets than the other lord of sign in reckon, the former lord's sign can be considered as more strong. Similar logic is applicable for determining ownership of dual lord signs. Thanks and regards, Mohan Hegde. - skanda_kumara vedic astrology Friday, June 28, 2002 11:48 PM [vedic astrology] Re: Puzzle for mind refresh-answer. om gurave namah --------------- Dear Mohan, Thanks for the puzzle. Actually, Shoola Dasa of Taurus-Taurus was running. Capricorn is stronger than Cancer, as its lord Saturn is more advanced than Moon! Taurus is 3H from AL, and hence represents sudden death! D1 Narayana Dasa of Vi-Aq-Ta was running. Note how Aq Maraka Rasi & Rahu Maraka lord are prominent. Moreover, Virgo houses 8L Sun. Most interestingly & importantly, Dasa Pravesha Chakra of Aq PD, showed Scorpio rising, with Lagna lord in 8H with 2L Jupiter & another marak lord Venus! Aq housed baadhaka lord Moon in it! The placement of 9L in Aquarius, combined with 9H indications in Rasi chart, made me think it was pertaining to his father. But, I think this is clear enough. Regards Skanda vedic astrology, "ANMOHIEY" <anmohiey@s...> wrote: > JAI GURUDEV. > > Puzzle for mind refresh. > > I whole heartedly express my gratitude to all learned and friends who made attempt on the puzzle. Sriram, Skanda Kumar, Krishna all were getting clue about illness but of relatives. > > The birth details of the native are: October 11, 1965; 14-06 Hrs, IST; 74E27; 14N26; TZ-05.30Hrs East of GMT. > > The native was about 1200KM away from his native place when he breathed his last. He died of heart attack in very young age on night of June 11, 2002 at about 28.30Hrs. I.e., wee hours ( about 04.30am) of June 12th 2002. He reported to be had a fall from the cot/bed and he was taken to the hospital to confirm he was dead. It was his very first travelling from his native place to so long distance in his life time. > > Here below I have explained very briefly,because of my limitations, how the Dasa-Bhukti-Antara running were could have been studied to have a clue. I have illustrated it with tools using KP system, Conventional Parasari principle and Jaimini principles. I request all seniors, learned and friends to give their views and express how they are also feeling the period and transit were adverse to the native which ultimately took the precious life. > > Conventional Parasari Method > > As per the chart details I am getting, the native was running with Moon Dasa, Saturn Bhukti and Jupiter Antara (just start). > > Moon is Marakesha and in Navamsa he is sitting in maraka house of second along with malefic Rahu. Saturn though Ascendant lord, is heavily afflicted being lord of Mandi and 2nd house and additionally positioned in the 2nd house. Jupiter is not only 12th lord but also becomes 1st grade maraka being owner of 22nd dreccana. > > In Rudramsa, Rasi Maraka lord and Dasa lord Moon is sitting in 7th (maraka) house and Bhukti lord has occupied another Maraka position, 2nd house. Jupiter is positioned along with A8. > > All these lords, Dasa, Bhukti and Antara, Moon , Saturn and Jupiter are in the constellation of Aswini, Shatabhisha and Aridra. Here, though they are not exactly on Mrutyubhaga but are quite in proximity. For these planets Mrutyubhaga is in the same star. Hence in combination these three planets gave a fatal blow to native. > > Native's Jeeva Saham falls in the sign of Virgo and transit Saturn and Natal 8th lord Sun were in trines to this. > > Jaimini Principle > > If we study longevity as per 3 pair methods. > > 1st lord 8th lord are placed in the sign of Aquarius and Libra. Fixed + Moving = Medium life. > > Lagna and Hora Lagna are placed in the of Capricorn and Taurus. Moving + Fixed = Medium life. > > Moon and Saturn are placed in the sign of Aries and Aquarius. Moving + Fixed = Medium life. > > Medium life span is from 36 years to 72 years. Hence Native is guaranteed upto longevity minimum 36 years. > > Shoola dasa starts either from 1st house or 7th house, which ever is stronger. Both these houses contain no planets. 7th house lord Moon is aspected (Rasi aspect-Jaimini principle) by more planets (By Mars, Venus and Saturn) and hence Dasa shall start from Cancer. Dasa of each 9 years span that of Cancer, Leo, Virgo and Libra falls in the pre-medium life span. Dasa of Scorpio started for native from October 11, 2001. Scorpio antara was in still progress. Scorpio is bereft of aspect from both Jupiter and AK, Sun. It is in trines to AL (Pisces). There is strong Maraka Rudra yoga (aspect and or conjunction of Mars and Moon or Moon and Venus) casting on the sign Scorpio. Apart from this Moon is Marakesha, Mars is Badhakesha, Venus is lord of Mrutyupada and Ketu is Nivraththi Karaka. Malefic Rahu and Saturn extend their graha dhrusti on sign Ascorpio. All this in combination did not allow the native to out live Scorpio- Scorpio Shoola dasa. > > Rahu placed in the 3rd from the AL, indicates sudden death, like because of bombing etc. > > Fourth from the Moon fourth is Cancer which indicates area of trouble, in this case it is heart. > > KP System > > As per the KP Ayanamsa, The native was running with Moon Dasa, Saturn Bhukti and Rahu Antara > > Moon is lord of 7th and hence first grade maraka. The Moon was placed in the star of Ketu and in the sub of Sun (lord of 8th house). Ketu is in the company of Badhakesha Mars and gets empowered to operate as Badhakesha. > > Saturn is sitting in 2nd house, house of Maraka and also he rules this Maraka house. He is placed in the star of Rahu and sub of Moon. Moon is afflicted as explained above. Rahu is receiving very close aspect from Bhadhakesha Mars. His dispositor, Venus is placed along with this Mars. Rahu is in the star of Moon and sub of his own. This is how it is very bad for longevity. > > Rahu is also ascendant sub lord and connects the native with Maraka and Badhaka houses/planets. > > In transit, Antara lord who took the native away from home was transiting in Mars constellation and was in the close conjunction of Maraka Saturn, 8th lord Sun and moving in the constellation of Badhaka Mars. Bhukti lord Saturn, who himself is powerful maraka was transiting in the star of Badhaka Mars and in close conjunction with dreaded planet Rahu. Dasa and maraka lord Moon was transiting in the constellation of Rahu and was accompanied by 12th lord Jupiter and Badhaka, Mars. The ascendant believed to be Taurus in the constellation of Moon when the native declared dead. > > From the above instant, can we infer that, various methodogy in practice in astrology, if used properly would lead for the same conclusion without any hassles. > > > > Mohan Hegde. > > > > ....... May Jupiter's light shine on us ....... 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