Desha Kala and Patra

[Guest guest]

OM GURAVE NAMAH

 

Dear List

 

In Vedic Astrology it has been emphasised that the application of Desha Kala

and Patra are important to the dileanation of a horoscope yet all the

experts do spontaneasly give readings to abstract queries appearing on all

the discussion lists very confidantly.Is this the right thing to do?

Would'nt it lack credibility in case we are missing out on these aspects?At

least in a personal consultation where the person is present and there is

opportunity to aquaint with at least superficially in these aspects.Will be

grateful for your comments.Thanks and God Bless.

 

Love and Regards

S Purushothaman

[Guest guest]

Dear Purushothaman,

This is important in every field of reality.

 

The goal of samskr`ti(culture-a loose word in "incomplete" and

Imperfect language" is to take its practitioner to reach the

Changeless. So, the litmus test of a winning culture is just shallow

and misleading. Scores of R`shis and sages have indicated that, if we

were to have happiness in our personal and social life, saadhaaraNa

Dharma should never change with time and place, because, it has the

very features of Almighty we want to become (these are the yama-

niyama features of Yoga: satya, ahimsa, aasteya, aparigraha, shaucha,

santosha, tapas, swaadhyaaya, Ishwara praaniDhaana). What changes

with time and place is the yuga Dharma or the vishesha Dharma. The

former is sanaatana, the latter subject to change as long as it

remians within the bounds of sanaatana Dharma (i.e., in other words,

the Vedas). Again, which part changes with time at a given place? The

seasons and the weather! Which changes with place at a given time?

The weather only. Thus, desha-kaala adjustments mean only adjusting

our lifestyle (& therefore our culture) to the weather only, and not

to the asuri whims of the prevailing society. We must not miss this

clarity of walking on Dharma and must not mix change of desha-kaala

adjustment to adjusting or compromising to an asuri culture.

 

 

Accepting sexual relations because one inhabits in West is non-sense.

Now english educated hindu tribe is deeply sunk in such germanic

thrash.

 

 

vedic astrology, "S Purushothaman" <purush@s...> wrote:

> OM GURAVE NAMAH

>

> Dear List

>

> In Vedic Astrology it has been emphasised that the application of

Desha Kala

> and Patra are important to the dileanation of a horoscope yet all

the

> experts do spontaneasly give readings to abstract queries appearing

on all

> the discussion lists very confidantly.Is this the right thing to

do?

> Would'nt it lack credibility in case we are missing out on these

aspects?At

> least in a personal consultation where the person is present and

there is

> opportunity to aquaint with at least superficially in these

aspects.Will be

> grateful for your comments.Thanks and God Bless.

>

> Love and Regards

> S Purushothaman

[Guest guest]

Dear Mr Reddy

 

I have read a few of your emails and I disagree with

your thinking.

 

First of all the the query of Mr. Purshottum was quite

different then what you answered and also please let

me clarify.

 

The Maya of God always changes, and so in different

Yugas, different Rishis have emphasised more

efficaious methods for each yuga, in KaliYug it just

Harinaam enough to get past.

Also in different times the body is different so the

capacity or purity i.e. one can apply many different

angles can be quite different so although in thoery

the

Yamas and Niyamas are same however there application

can vary with time, place in ways that are more

condusive to

time, place and body.

 

Self realization is about tolerance, love, forgiveness

 

and also there is only one God, call it Narayan, call

it Jesus or Allah. All paths lead to same universal

one and only one truth. No difference at all. All this

what happens around is Maya (ever changing) and it is

false.

 

Further please donot talk about Sex and West, There is

and there was always more sex in India at all times,

do not be a hypocrite. it is everywhere,why give much

importance to just one other indriya function.

 

Please refraining from bashing West or Non-Indians,

Hinduism does not teach that at all.

 

By the way I am Hindu too, there are many great things

in the West as well as East, one must try to accept

good moral things and overcome not good things.

 

Mr Purshotum's point is quite correct and it very

valid.

 

 

 

--- venkateshwara_reddy

<venkateshwara_reddy wrote:

> Dear Purushothaman,

> This is important in every field of reality.

>

> The goal of samskr`ti(culture-a loose word in

> "incomplete" and

> Imperfect language" is to take its practitioner to

> reach the

> Changeless. So, the litmus test of a winning culture

> is just shallow

> and misleading. Scores of R`shis and sages have

> indicated that, if we

> were to have happiness in our personal and social

> life, saadhaaraNa

> Dharma should never change with time and place,

> because, it has the

> very features of Almighty we want to become (these

> are the yama-

> niyama features of Yoga: satya, ahimsa, aasteya,

> aparigraha, shaucha,

> santosha, tapas, swaadhyaaya, Ishwara praaniDhaana).

> What changes

> with time and place is the yuga Dharma or the

> vishesha Dharma. The

> former is sanaatana, the latter subject to change as

> long as it

> remians within the bounds of sanaatana Dharma (i.e.,

> in other words,

> the Vedas). Again, which part changes with time at a

> given place? The

> seasons and the weather! Which changes with place at

> a given time?

> The weather only. Thus, desha-kaala adjustments mean

> only adjusting

> our lifestyle (& therefore our culture) to the

> weather only, and not

> to the asuri whims of the prevailing society. We

> must not miss this

> clarity of walking on Dharma and must not mix change

> of desha-kaala

> adjustment to adjusting or compromising to an asuri

> culture.

>

>

> Accepting sexual relations because one inhabits in

> West is non-sense.

> Now english educated hindu tribe is deeply sunk in

> such germanic

> thrash.

>

>

> vedic astrology, "S Purushothaman"

> <purush@s...> wrote:

> > OM GURAVE NAMAH

> >

> > Dear List

> >

> > In Vedic Astrology it has been emphasised that the

> application of

> Desha Kala

> > and Patra are important to the dileanation of a

> horoscope yet all

> the

> > experts do spontaneasly give readings to abstract

> queries appearing

> on all

> > the discussion lists very confidantly.Is this the

> right thing to

> do?

> > Would'nt it lack credibility in case we are

> missing out on these

> aspects?At

> > least in a personal consultation where the person

> is present and

> there is

> > opportunity to aquaint with at least superficially

> in these

> aspects.Will be

> > grateful for your comments.Thanks and God Bless.

> >

> > Love and Regards

> > S Purushothaman

>

>

 

 

 

 

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