Jyotisha- greek-Indology (was Why vimshottari in 365.25)

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Namasthe,

 

Add all Indology slaves' opinion including present day scholar Prof

Mike Witzell of Harvard University, Pingree, another Idiot, who never

know about natural cycles and started criticising. What is the

scholarship of Prof Michael Witzell in Gola shaastra..He cant even

pronounce samskr`tam words properly. So is evey McCaulite and english

educated hindu, reading anglicised translations. These things got

ingrained in the society through the very distorted "education"

systems. These McCauly/Muller tribe is simply adhering to these

distortions and wrongly propagating them as promulgated by Veda-s,

shaastra-s. It is a sad level of ignorance of the current day English

educated Hindu. Secret Doctrine, the work of Rudolf Steiner's friend

HPB is full of such wild imganations. First understand ahOrAtri and

varSa. Later you may get some miniscule about the precession and its

movement.

 

And these Indologists claim that Jyotisha came from Greece.. Wonder,

these greeks dint know that earth was round?(ref: 340 BC - Thales,

Ionians, etc) It was perfectly flat, fixed, and center of universe!

For the Greeks, it was Aristotle who first tried to educate that

earth was sort of round (not "perfectly" round like the heavenly

bodies as he pictured them), but it was 13th century when Europe

accepted this notion.

 

Another indology creation: Yavana = Greece, hence all these follow.

What if Yavana desha was not Greece in Varahamihira's works? "Yavana"

appears in many ancient Indian works, including in the oldest

Dharmashaastra. This is another debate: native accounts have BhArata

war as some 5,000 years ago, Shree Rama as some 7,400 years ago,

ManusmR`ti ('yavana' is named) from some 8,500 years ago, etc. For

indology and the MacCaulay minions, all these are myths created

during Gupta era, ~ 300AD, while western history is mostly based on

myths of Bible, Genesis, Exodus, of about the same time! All our

proud history of early Rome comes from legends! How nice!

 

And you merely showing this stuff around here.

 

And our primitive indologists accept only Rigveda as earlier than

anything else. "If it is not in Rigveda, it was borrowed

from Greeks" - so goes their blind creed. This is the way, these

sunken stalinists operate.

 

Now Prof. Narahari Achar is shattering the silly works of Witzell,

Pingree and gang, by saying that nakshatra-s are in RigVeda( in terms

of nakshatra aDhipati-s, not the vimshottari system).

 

See the works of Achar at

 

>From Prof. Achar's paper (http://www1.shore.net/~india/ejvs

Vol. 6 (2000), issue 2

 

This proves that Jyotisha did not come from Greece(which was famos

for flat earth, sinner life, harsh destiny).

 

And so is Steiner's(he belongs to the HPB gang) works and you are

mixing up their universal brotherwood to defend some wild

imaginations. Read some recent postings on ayanamsha ands its

relation to yuga-s from Manu Samhita to understand, rather than

blindly following Primitive indologistss' view. Witzel, Pingree et al

gang did not mince a word on Shri Achar's work. That is the (un)

scholarshiop of these sunken primitives.

 

 

Best Regards,

VR

 

 

 

> I thought I would add Rudolf Steiner's views on this issue (I don't

> believe in him religiously).

>

> "The regions of Atlantis were destroyed through colossal deluges.

> Human bodies had different forms at that time, but the souls that

> live in us today lived also in the ancient Atlanteans. Those were

our

> souls. Then the water-catastrophe caused a movement of the

Atlantean

> peoples, a great migration from west to east. We ourselves were

these

> peoples. Toward the end of Atlantis all was in movement. We

wandered

> from the west toward the east, through Ireland, Scotland, Holland,

> France, and Spain. Thus the peoples moved eastward and populated

> Europe, Asia, and the northern parts of Africa.

>

> It must not be imagined that those who, in the last great

migration,

> wandered out of the west into the regions that have gradually

> developed into Asia, Europe, and Africa, did not encounter other

> peoples. Almost all of Europe, the northern parts of Africa, and

> large parts of Asia were already inhabited at that time. These

areas

> were not peopled from the west only; they had already been settled

> earlier, so that this migration found a strange population already

> established. We may assume that when quieter times set in, special

> cultural relations arose. There was, for instance, in the

> neighborhood of Ireland, a region where, before the catastrophe

that

> now lies thousands of years behind us, there lived the most

advanced

> portions of the entire population of the earth. These portions then

> migrated, under the special guidance of great individualities,

> through Europe to a region of central Asia, and from that point

> cultural colonies were sent out to the most diverse places. One

such

> colony of the post-Atlantean time was sent from this group of

people

> into India, finding a population that had been seated there from

> primeval times and had its own culture. Paying due heed to what was

> already present, these colonists founded the first post-Atlantean

> culture. This was many thousand years ago, and external documents

> tell us scarcely anything about it. What appears in these documents

> is much later. In those great compendiums of Wisdom called the

Vedas,

> we have only the final echoes of a very early Indian culture that

was

> directed by super-earthly beings and was founded by the Holy

Rishis.

> It was a culture of a unique kind, and we today can form only a

> feeble idea of it because the Vedas are only a reflection of that

> primeval holy Indian culture."

>

> One may scoff at notions of "Atlantis", but that name was invented

by

> Plato. To the people of the time there was just a great "worldwide"

> flood. I find it myself interesting that even the Mayas have

stories

> about such a flood. By my calculations of the ayanamsha Steiner

uses,

> this last flood would have happened about 8000 B.C. (At the end of

a

> 25,000 year yuga of Great Year.) It's interesting that that's when

> the last Ice Age ended, which must have caused global water levels

to

> rise.

>

> To Steiner, the old Chinese civilization was a recapitulation of

the

> last Atlantean civilization and the ancient Indian was the first

post-

> Atlantean civilization. (But the Chinese belongs to a preceding

Yuga

> and is not appropriate for this one according to him.) Essential to

> that early Indian culture was a all-encompassing monism in his

view.

> He also happens to agree with your view that the era of the

> materialistic reductionist sense perception mind is special (in his

> view it's the Kali Yuga, which ended in 1899). However he disagrees

> that this would be entirely evil, instead he says it is was

> spiritually necessary in order to develop the mind powers. (Early

> humanity hardly thought at all according to him, instead they

> perceived spiritual things directly.) In the last stage of this

> 25,000 year cycle will come a recapitulation of that early Indian

> Yuga, but modified by what has gone before.

>

> As I said I don't believe this religiously, but Steiner makes some

> sense to me in other contexts. As far as I know, yugas usually end

by

> some cataclysm.

>

>

> vedic astrology, "cjjohans" <cjjohans@c...> wrote:

> > vedic astrology, "venkateshwara_reddy" <avenkat@m...>

> > wrote:

> > > > This year is used in China, so it might be older than

> > > > you think.

> > >

> > > This is not post-1500 BC creation as Indology idiots thought of.

> > > How late is late?

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > > http://www.ichingwisdom.com/IChingWisdom/zodiac.html

> > > >

> > > > It's supposed to date from at least 1000 B.C.

> > >

> > > Vedic is older than 1000 B.C.

> >

> > So what? I did not say anything else. The original poster said

that

> > using it as a year was recent, I said it has been used as a year

at

> > least in China for a long time.