Janma vighati graha

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Dear Visti,

 

>Visti: Do you mean to say that the Vighati Lagna in Shastiamsa would

>show the Rasi-Lagna in this life? So that means that there are only 5

>(60/12=5) valid Vighati Lagna-Shastiamsas out of 60, that will actually

>show the birth of any entity?

 

Yes, though I remember it was certainly Janma Vighati Graha, not lagna. Pt

Sanjay Rath even pointed out the difference in taking sunrise or sunset

for either lagna or graha. It's a pity, but I seem to have lost this text.

Must have been early last year, or the year before.

 

>A friend of mine came with a funny comment; He said that the 5th house in

>his Dwadasamsa shows the children of parents, and hence would show his

>Rasi-Lagna, i would match this comment to the above one.

 

Well, I would rather say that 5th in dwadasamsa shows grandfather. I don't

abide by your friend's comment.

 

>For now, i would say lets wait with understanding the Janma Vighati

>Lagna. But to see the sex of your past life, maybe you can use the Janma

>Vighati Graha's position in Shashtiamsa.. dunno whether it ill be acurate

>thou, rather we wait until we study Adhana Chakras.

 

That's what I meant, how will Janma Vighati graha relate to the lagna in

rasi and/or janma vighati lagna in Sastiamsa? I remember now your earlier

post was indeed about finding the sex of past life from sastiamsa.

 

>Visti: I should have said the Horas that constitute the Hora-amsa

>division. i.e. Sun and Moon.

 

I see, during day time the Horas will start with Sun, during night time

with Moon. However, for the janma vighati lagna this difference will not

be there, hence we start always from sunrise. Another point, during day

time Sun signifies father, during night time Saturn does so. Why Saturn,

and not Jupiter? I have a Saturn atmakaraka in 9th house, so that will

mean reversing the results of longevity, due to the blessings of the

relative signified by the atmakaraka, who will not live long (according to

Upadesa Sutras by Sanjay Rath). However, I have a day birth, so what

relative will Saturn stand for here? Will it still signify father?

 

>p.s. i would love to rectify your chart one-day, please give some

>information about your parents and their lineage, the rest i know

 

My parents married because of me... My father was boasting that he will

not have child before marriage, so that he would be better than his older

brother (he has one older brother) but as the accident happened, he was

so-called forced to marry my mother, who was going through terrible

hardship because of him. He even beat her when she was in 7th month of

pregnancy. My mother left him in Sept. '69, leaving me behind because of

circumstances with my father (I was about 1 1/2 years old). Thereafter my

father entered mental hospital, because he became mentally sick, which

continued for many years. At that time I stayed with my grandparents from

mothers side, who didn't allow my mother to see me, because they were very

conservative and didn't agree with what my mother did. So I was separated

from my mother from early childhood. Only a few years ago, in March-April

-98 I contacted my mother again. After my father had been better from his

nervous breakdown, one day he took me from my grandparents from mother's

side, and since that day I have been raised by my grandparents from

father's side. When my father got better from his illness, he was a loving

father to me. My father's occupation was weaver, until the factory went

bankrupt and since that time, around the same time when he got the

illness, he has been without job. My mother has been working in a tax

collection office all life (she still works there) though she has been

moving for her job several times. That's about all that I can say. About

family lineage, our forefathers were more or less all connected somehow or

other with the textile industry, all of them quite simple people. I would

say sudra varna. If you have any questions, please ask.

 

I would love to see your rectification. My mother remembers something like

10:10 am, my father says it is rather between 10:20-10:30. I am accepting

the time of 10:25, using an ayanamsa which is a few arc minutes more than

Lahiri (after my long research going even a few degrees less, but that has

proven inaccurate). BTW, how many minutes off Lahiri does Sanjay Rath or

Narasimha use, more or less?

 

Your sishya,

Dhira Krsna dasa

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Vyam Vysadevaya Namah

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Dear Krsna,

Comments bellow;

Yes, though I remember it was certainly Janma Vighati Graha, not lagna. PtSanjay

Rath even pointed out the difference in taking sunrise or sunsetfor either lagna

or graha. It's a pity, but I seem to have lost this text.Must have been early

last year, or the year before.

Visti: On which list? i'm sure i can locate it. He has commented on the Janma

Vighati Grahas importance for this birth.

Well, I would rather say that 5th in dwadasamsa shows grandfather. I don'tabide

by your friend's comment.

 

Visti: me neither, it doens't make sense.That's what I meant, how will Janma

Vighati graha relate to the lagna inrasi and/or janma vighati lagna in

Sastiamsa? I remember now your earlierpost was indeed about finding the sex of

past life from sastiamsa.

Visti: Our sex, complexion and stature in this life is due to events

happening in our past life. This is what the Vighati Graha shows.

I see, during day time the Horas will start with Sun, during night timewith

Moon. However, for the janma vighati lagna this difference will notbe there,

hence we start always from sunrise.

 

Visti: correction; for PranaPada this difference will not be there.

 

Another point, during day time Sun signifies father, during night time Saturn

does so. Why Saturn, and not Jupiter?

 

Visti: Does this relate to Janma Jataka or Adhana Jataka? I believe i've read

it relating to Adhana Jataka.

 

I have a Saturn atmakaraka in 9th house, so that will mean reversing the results

of longevity, due to the blessings of the relative signified by the atmakaraka,

who will not live long (according to Upadesa Sutras by Sanjay Rath). However, I

have a day birth, so what relative will Saturn stand for here? Will it still

signify father?

 

Visti: My Rahu is AK in the 9th house, my Maternal Grandmother left quite

early, when my mother was 4. Saturn indicates elder siblings i believe.My

parents married because of me... My father was boasting that he willnot have

child before marriage, so that he would be better than his olderbrother (he has

one older brother) but as the accident happened, he wasso-called forced to marry

my mother, who was going through terriblehardship because of him. He even beat

her when she was in 7th month ofpregnancy. My mother left him in Sept. '69,

leaving me behind because ofcircumstances with my father (I was about 1 1/2

years old). Thereafter myfather entered mental hospital, because he became

mentally sick, whichcontinued for many years. At that time I stayed with my

grandparents frommothers side, who didn't allow my mother to see me, because

they were veryconservative and didn't agree with what my mother did. So I was

separatedfrom my mother from early childhood. Only a few years ago, in

March-April-98 I contacted my mother again. After my father had been better

from hisnervous breakdown, one day he took me from my grandparents from

mother'sside, and since that day I have been raised by my grandparents

fromfather's side. When my father got better from his illness, he was a

lovingfather to me. My father's occupation was weaver, until the factory

wentbankrupt and since that time, around the same time when he got theillness,

he has been without job. My mother has been working in a taxcollection office

all life (she still works there) though she has beenmoving for her job several

times. That's about all that I can say. Aboutfamily lineage, our forefathers

were more or less all connected somehow orother with the textile industry, all

of them quite simple people. I wouldsay sudra varna. If you have any questions,

please ask.I would love to see your rectification. My mother remembers something

like10:10 am, my father says it is rather between 10:20-10:30. I am acceptingthe

time of 10:25, using an ayanamsa which is a few arc minutes more thanLahiri

(after my long research going even a few degrees less, but that hasproven

inaccurate). BTW, how many minutes off Lahiri does Sanjay Rath orNarasimha use,

more or less?

Visti: Acording to the calculations i have seen, they do not use any

correction in Lahiri Ayanamsa.

 

Using Lahiri Ayanamsa which i trust, i've done the following rectifications;

Dwadasamsa Lagna should be Sag. See the 9th lord aspected by Saturn and Rahu by

Graha Dristi, this shows your fathers problems.

 

6th house in D-12 has Venus in Taurus, showing his occupation in clothes and threads.

Mothers occupation should have a Jupiterian and/or Mercurian

influence(calculating doing numbers). The Rahu in Sag, is interesting to my

mind, even thou the Jupiterian and Mercurian influences are there.. shows that

tax collecting still hasn't changed since midievil times.

Rahu is stealing from the temple in Sag, hence Rahu steals Jupiters job hence

mothers job. For this reason your maternal grandparents(Rahu) raised you.

 

D-20 should have Moon in trines or Lagna, without a doubt, showing your devotion to Krishna.

 

This the two above rectifications we have rectified your Navamsa Lagna.

 

Checking Navamsa-Dwadasamsa the venusian influence on the 9th house/lord is

again clear, supporting the profession of your fathers lineage.. Ketu's

influence indicates menial/headless work.

 

Lagna is between; 14:10:00 and 14:26:40

 

Now, PranaPada can be in either Simha- or Thula-Amsa.

 

Looking through the options i've chosen Thula-Amsa, and Vighati Graha as

Chandra(Saturn=fem, Rahu=male, Pisces=male..Male++). I asume you have a whitish

complexion.

 

Heres the chart i get;

Best wishes, Visti.

p.s. Checkout Jupiter and Moon in trines in Shastyamsa!!!!

Note; i doubt we can determine sex of past life, using Janma Jataka.. instead we

can see the reason for this lifes indications..

 

Dhira Krsna Dasa

 

Natal Chart

 

May 23, 1968Time: 10:16:13Time Zone: 1:00:00 (East of

GMT)Longitude: 3 E 36' 00"Latitude: 40 N 45' 00"Altitude: 0.00

meters

 

Lunar Year: KeelakaLunar Month: VaisakhaTithi: Krishna Dwadasi (55.75%

left)Weekday: ThursdayNakshatra: Revathi (28.56% left)Yoga:

AyushmanKarana: KaulavaHora Lord: Venus

 

Sunrise: 5:23:56Sunset: 20:02:29Janma Ghatis: 12.1786

 

Body Longitude Nakshatra Pada Rasi Navamsa ChKarak

 

Lagna 14 Cn 26' 23.54" Pushyami 4 Cn Sc -Sun 8

Ta 52' 54.99" Krittika 4 Ta Pi MKMoon 26 Pi 11' 29.72"

Revathi 3 Pi Aq AmKMars 16 Ta 55' 35.09" Rohini 3

Ta Ge BKMercury 1 Ge 25' 07.24" Mrigasira 3 Ge Li

GKJupiter 3 Le 52' 51.77" Makha 2 Le Ta PKVenus

1 Ta 17' 16.21" Krittika 2 Ta Cp DKSaturn 27 Pi 42' 20.19"

Revathi 4 Pi Pi AKRahu 22 Pi 59' 10.22" Revathi 2

Pi Cp PiKKetu 22 Vi 59' 10.22" Hastha 4 Vi Cn

-Bhava Lagna 21 Cn 45' 29.58" Aasresha 2 Cn Cp -Hora Lagna 4

Li 49' 46.53" Chitra 4 Li Sc -Ghati Lagna 14 Ta 02' 37.37"

Rohini 2 Ta Ta -Vighati Lagna 0 Ge 06' 51.61" Mrigasira 3

Ge Li -Sree Lagna 1 Ar 36' 46.01" Aswini 1 Ar Ar

-Dhooma 22 Vi 12' 54.99" Hastha 4 Vi Cn -Vyatipata 7

Li 47' 05.01" Swathi 1 Li Sg -Parivesha 7 Ar 47' 05.01"

Aswini 3 Ar Ge -Indra Chapa 22 Pi 12' 54.99" Revathi 2

Pi Cp -Upaketu 8 Ar 52' 54.99" Aswini 3 Ar Ge

-Kaala 24 Le 09' 05.55" Poo.Pha. 4 Le Sc -Mrityu 7

Li 40' 35.29" Swathi 1 Li Sg -Artha Prahara 29 Li 12' 29.12"

Visakha 3 Li Ge -Yama Ghantaka 23 Ta 08' 28.40" Rohini 4

Ta Cn -Maandi 10 Cn 56' 37.04" Pushyami 3 Cn Li

-Gulika 29 Ge 58' 45.34" Punarvasu 3 Ge Ge -Varnada Lagna 19

Cp 16' 10.06" Sravanam 3 Cp Ge -V2 19 Pi 16' 10.06"

Revathi 1 Pi Sg -V3 10 Aq 43' 49.94" Satabhisham 2

Aq Cp -V4 10 Sg 43' 49.94" Moola 4 Sg Cn -V5

10 Li 43' 49.94" Swathi 2 Li Cp -V6 10 Le

43' 49.94" Makha 4 Le Cn -V7 10 Ge 43' 49.94" Aardra

2 Ge Cp -V8 10 Ar 43' 49.94" Aswini 4 Ar Cn

-V9 10 Aq 43' 49.94" Satabhisham 2 Aq Cp -V10

10 Sg 43' 49.94" Moola 4 Sg Cn -V11 10 Li 43' 49.94"

Swathi 2 Li Cp -

 

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OM GURAVE NAMAH

Dear Visti

 

To your query mentioned below Sanjay stated this in the 2nd part of his article

on CREATION.Article appeared probably on his web site.PRINCIPLES OF CREATION-1

covers the Chakras and PRINCIPLES OF CREATION-2 covers first on Karakas and

then the Body in which he covers on the calculations for Lord of the Janma

Vighati.Hope that helps.God Bless.

 

Love and Regards

S Purushothaman

Yes, though I remember it was certainly Janma Vighati Graha, not lagna. PtSanjay

Rath even pointed out the difference in taking sunrise or sunsetfor either lagna

or graha. It's a pity, but I seem to have lost this text.Must have been early

last year, or the year before.

Visti: On which list? i'm sure i can locate it. He has commented on the Janma

Vighati Grahas importance for this birth.

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OM GURAVE NAMAH

 

Dear Dhira Krsna Dasa

 

I recollect you having given your place of birth as Ronse,Belgium.(3E36,50N45)

very much earlier.Visti is using 3E36,40N45.Will this make a difference to his

rectification of your birth time?Thank You and God Bless.

 

Love and Regards

S Purushothaman

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S Purushothaman

vedic astrology

Tuesday, June 11, 2002 10:48 AM

Re: [vedic astrology] Janma vighati graha

OM GURAVE NAMAH

Dear Visti

 

To your query mentioned below Sanjay stated this in the 2nd part of his article

on CREATION.Article appeared probably on his web site.PRINCIPLES OF CREATION-1

covers the Chakras and PRINCIPLES OF CREATION-2 covers first on Karakas and

then the Body in which he covers on the calculations for Lord of the Janma

Vighati.Hope that helps.God Bless.

 

Love and Regards

S Purushothaman

Yes, though I remember it was certainly Janma Vighati Graha, not lagna. PtSanjay

Rath even pointed out the difference in taking sunrise or sunsetfor either lagna

or graha. It's a pity, but I seem to have lost this text.Must have been early

last year, or the year before.

Visti: On which list? i'm sure i can locate it. He has commented on the Janma

Vighati Grahas importance for this birth.Archives:

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