Guest guest Posted May 24, 2002 Report Share Posted May 24, 2002 Vajpayee? Let's look at his chart. it is very interesting. He has a Martian sign rising with two planets in it, and three planets in Sagittarius, a fiery sign. So he is a person who could be involved with war and with the armed forces. Currently, the major period of Jupiter is operating. Jupiter is one of the planets in the fiery sign. The sub period is also Jupiter's, until August of 2003. Jupiter is too benefic to involve him in a major war as the lord of both the major aswell as the sub period. In August of 2003, however, he enters into the sub period of Saturn. Saturn receives the aspect of Mars, who owns the house of warring and enemies, the sixth. It also owns the ascendent. So the aspect of Mars on Saturn indicates that the sub period of Saturn should involve him in warring and belicose activity. Unfortunately, Saturn sits in the house of loss. So there will be great losses if he does face war. And notice that Saturn aspects the major lord Jupiter. The sub period of Saturn, given Saturn's aspect to the lord of the major period, tells us that the worst manifestation of Saturn's loss, anguish, violence and all that will be in the sub period ofSaturn, in Jupiter- Saturn. But this is in August of 2003. This is my initial take. Any ideas? Dharmapad http://skywebsite.com/hollow// Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 25, 2002 Report Share Posted May 25, 2002 Om Namo Bhagavate Vaasudevaya Dear Darapaha Dasa Hare Krishna. Vajpayee Ji's chart is relevant for his personal self. This great man has been suffering due to the transit of Saturn in the trines to AL (bad for health) and also the tenth from the Janma Rasi (Leo) resulting in the effects of Kantaka causing many obstacles in his works. Things started are often delayed and delay causes setbacks, especially in the image (Arudha is involved). See India's chart. With best wishes Sanjay Rath http://sanjayrath.tripod.com > > deandddd [0108] > Saturday, May 25, 2002 7:19 AM > vedic astrology > [vedic astrology] The Hindu Prime Minister > > > Vajpayee? Let's look at his chart. it is very interesting. He has a > Martian sign rising with two planets in it, and three planets in > Sagittarius, a fiery sign. So he is a person who could be involved > with war and with the armed forces. > > Currently, the major period of Jupiter is operating. Jupiter is one > of the planets in the fiery sign. The sub period is also Jupiter's, > until August of 2003. Jupiter is too benefic to involve him in a > major war as the lord of both the major aswell as the sub period. > > In August of 2003, however, he enters into the sub period of Saturn. > Saturn receives the aspect of Mars, who owns the house of warring and > enemies, the sixth. It also owns the ascendent. So the aspect of Mars > on Saturn indicates that the sub period of Saturn should involve him > in warring and belicose activity. > > Unfortunately, Saturn sits in the house of loss. So there will be > great losses if he does face war. > > And notice that Saturn aspects the major lord Jupiter. The sub period > of Saturn, given Saturn's aspect to the lord of the major period, > tells us that the worst manifestation of Saturn's loss, anguish, > violence and all that will be in the sub period ofSaturn, in Jupiter- > Saturn. > > But this is in August of 2003. > > This is my initial take. Any ideas? > > Dharmapad > > http://skywebsite.com/hollow// > > > > > > > > > > ....... May Jupiter's light shine on us ....... > > > > Your use of is subject to > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 26, 2002 Report Share Posted May 26, 2002 Dear Sanjay, Namaste. Just one small remark. My name is Darpaha Dasa and the letter bellow on which you answered is written by Dharmapada Dasa (you address it as Darpaha Dasa). Darpaha Dasa - "Sanjay Rath" <srath <vedic astrology> Saturday, May 25, 2002 11:28 PM RE: [vedic astrology] The Hindu Prime Minister > > > Om Namo Bhagavate Vaasudevaya > Dear Darapaha Dasa > Hare Krishna. Vajpayee Ji's chart is relevant for his personal self. This > great man has been suffering due to the transit of Saturn in the trines to > AL (bad for health) and also the tenth from the Janma Rasi (Leo) resulting > in the effects of Kantaka causing many obstacles in his works. Things > started are often delayed and delay causes setbacks, especially in the image > (Arudha is involved). See India's chart. > > With best wishes > Sanjay Rath > http://sanjayrath.tripod.com > > > > > > deandddd [0108] > > Saturday, May 25, 2002 7:19 AM > > vedic astrology > > [vedic astrology] The Hindu Prime Minister > > > > > > Vajpayee? Let's look at his chart. it is very interesting. He has a > > Martian sign rising with two planets in it, and three planets in > > Sagittarius, a fiery sign. So he is a person who could be involved > > with war and with the armed forces. > > > > Currently, the major period of Jupiter is operating. Jupiter is one > > of the planets in the fiery sign. The sub period is also Jupiter's, > > until August of 2003. Jupiter is too benefic to involve him in a > > major war as the lord of both the major aswell as the sub period. > > > > In August of 2003, however, he enters into the sub period of Saturn. > > Saturn receives the aspect of Mars, who owns the house of warring and > > enemies, the sixth. It also owns the ascendent. So the aspect of Mars > > on Saturn indicates that the sub period of Saturn should involve him > > in warring and belicose activity. > > > > Unfortunately, Saturn sits in the house of loss. So there will be > > great losses if he does face war. > > > > And notice that Saturn aspects the major lord Jupiter. The sub period > > of Saturn, given Saturn's aspect to the lord of the major period, > > tells us that the worst manifestation of Saturn's loss, anguish, > > violence and all that will be in the sub period ofSaturn, in Jupiter- > > Saturn. > > > > But this is in August of 2003. > > > > This is my initial take. Any ideas? > > > > Dharmapad > > > > http://skywebsite.com/hollow// > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ....... May Jupiter's light shine on us ....... > > > > > > > > Your use of is subject to > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ....... May Jupiter's light shine on us ....... > > > > Your use of is subject to > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 26, 2002 Report Share Posted May 26, 2002 Pranaam Sanjaya, By "The Hindu Prime Minister", I presume Dharmapada means the Indian Prime Minister. > Om Namo Bhagavate Vaasudevaya > Dear Darapaha Dasa > Hare Krishna. Vajpayee Ji's chart is relevant for his personal self. This To justify the events of world war II, you looked at the Mandooka dasa of some key rulers (see your first book on Jaimini Sutras). Can't I do the same with Vajpayee's chart? > great man has been suffering due to the transit of Saturn in the trines to > AL (bad for health) and also the tenth from the Janma Rasi (Leo) resulting > in the effects of Kantaka causing many obstacles in his works. Things But look at Vajpayee's Mandooka dasa. He runs Cancer dasa till 2005. Cancer is the 6th house containing Rahu in his Rudramsa. Doesn't it show destruction of enemies? Or, does Cancer's being an even sign come in the way? >From Cancer, 8th lord Saturn is in an odd sign Sagittarius and that becomes Rudra Dwara for enemy. Rudra Bahya for enemy is Taurus. It is interesting that he fought the limited Kargil war in Ta antardasa, Sg pratyantardasa in June 1999. Now, Sg antardasa is running. Ta pratyantardasa will run during June 7-25. Isn't there a chance that a limited war during this time will again inflict some wounds on the enemy? > started are often delayed and delay causes setbacks, especially in the image > (Arudha is involved). See India's chart. I am unable to explain past events using India's Mandooka dasa and my calculation or knowledge is wrong. So I do not want to use India's Mandooka dasa for predicting future events. I could explain India's past events very well based on annual Tithi Pravesha charts. So I looked at India's annual TP chart for 2001-02. In India's 2001-02 chart, Cancer rises with Sun in it. As the lord of weekday Jupiter is a functional malefic for natal lagna (Taurus), this year is ridden with troubles. As Cancer is the 3rd house from natal lagna, some bold acts are possible. Hora lord at the time of new year's start is Mars. So Mars is the most important planet during the year. He is a yogakaraka in 5th house and India's clout in the world will increase. As per annual dasas, 6th lord Jupiter's dasa will run from May 30. Jupiter is in 12th with Moon, Mercury and Rahu. This seems to show massive losses for the hidden enemy (12th). One way or the other, the terrorist camps in Pakistan-occupied-Kashmir may have to pack up in Jupiter dasa from May 30. As per Pakistan's 2001-02 annual TP chart, Mars dasa will run from May 23 to June 19. Mars is the hora lord and lagna lord in lagna. How can they lose a war in this period? If at all India wants to attack terrorist camps in Pakistan administered areas, isn't it a good idea to wait till June 19 and let the dasa of 8th lord Mercury come? I read in Indian media that Pakistan was given two weeks to dismantle the terrorist camps. Why not give 3 weeks? Your sishya, Narasimha Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 26, 2002 Report Share Posted May 26, 2002 Om Namo Bhagavate Vaasudevaya Dear Narasimha Of course you can use Mandooka in the Rudramsa, but to stretch Vimsottari is not right. The war will be fought between the Generals (Chief of staff) on either side and normally, only major policy stuff comes to the PM's table. This is with all nations, India is no exception. Even signs can come in the way like 'taking a second look' or having second thoughts'..note the word second I have used for Cancer. There will be no limits this time. You meed to keep transits also in view and this is evident that limits will not apply once the fireworks start. I see and end to this horrible Kashmere problem ..late but not never. With best wishes Sanjay Rath http://sanjayrath.tripod.com Narasimha P.V.R. Rao [pvr] Sunday, May 26, 2002 3:45 PM vedic astrology [vedic astrology] Re: The Hindu Prime Minister Pranaam Sanjaya, By "The Hindu Prime Minister", I presume Dharmapada means the Indian Prime Minister. > Om Namo Bhagavate Vaasudevaya > Dear Darapaha Dasa > Hare Krishna. Vajpayee Ji's chart is relevant for his personal self. This To justify the events of world war II, you looked at the Mandooka dasa of some key rulers (see your first book on Jaimini Sutras). Can't I do the same with Vajpayee's chart? > great man has been suffering due to the transit of Saturn in the trines to > AL (bad for health) and also the tenth from the Janma Rasi (Leo) resulting > in the effects of Kantaka causing many obstacles in his works. Things But look at Vajpayee's Mandooka dasa. He runs Cancer dasa till 2005. Cancer is the 6th house containing Rahu in his Rudramsa. Doesn't it show destruction of enemies? Or, does Cancer's being an even sign come in the way? >From Cancer, 8th lord Saturn is in an odd sign Sagittarius and that becomes Rudra Dwara for enemy. Rudra Bahya for enemy is Taurus. It is interesting that he fought the limited Kargil war in Ta antardasa, Sg pratyantardasa in June 1999. Now, Sg antardasa is running. Ta pratyantardasa will run during June 7-25. Isn't there a chance that a limited war during this time will again inflict some wounds on the enemy? > started are often delayed and delay causes setbacks, especially in the image > (Arudha is involved). See India's chart. I am unable to explain past events using India's Mandooka dasa and my calculation or knowledge is wrong. So I do not want to use India's Mandooka dasa for predicting future events. I could explain India's past events very well based on annual Tithi Pravesha charts. So I looked at India's annual TP chart for 2001-02. In India's 2001-02 chart, Cancer rises with Sun in it. As the lord of weekday Jupiter is a functional malefic for natal lagna (Taurus), this year is ridden with troubles. As Cancer is the 3rd house from natal lagna, some bold acts are possible. Hora lord at the time of new year's start is Mars. So Mars is the most important planet during the year. He is a yogakaraka in 5th house and India's clout in the world will increase. As per annual dasas, 6th lord Jupiter's dasa will run from May 30. Jupiter is in 12th with Moon, Mercury and Rahu. This seems to show massive losses for the hidden enemy (12th). One way or the other, the terrorist camps in Pakistan-occupied-Kashmir may have to pack up in Jupiter dasa from May 30. As per Pakistan's 2001-02 annual TP chart, Mars dasa will run from May 23 to June 19. Mars is the hora lord and lagna lord in lagna. How can they lose a war in this period? If at all India wants to attack terrorist camps in Pakistan administered areas, isn't it a good idea to wait till June 19 and let the dasa of 8th lord Mercury come? I read in Indian media that Pakistan was given two weeks to dismantle the terrorist camps. Why not give 3 weeks? Your sishya, Narasimha Your use of is subject to Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 26, 2002 Report Share Posted May 26, 2002 People, I goofed. It has been brought to my attention by one Partha that Indian astrologers are using Libra for Vajpayee's rising sign. That's more like it! He has Saturn the yogakaraka exalted in the first. It was hard to justify the Scorpio rising chart, there wasn't much strength to it. When we consider that Libra rises in the horoscope of Vajpayee, instead ofScorpio, the whole karma changes, of course, and for the better. Scorpio just doesn't have the strength to indicate a manin such a high position. Vajpayee enters the Jupiter-Saturn sub period in April of 2003. Saturn will give him support of the masses and he will win the popular election. Saturn receives the aspect of Mars from the house of war, the sixth, but he will certainly come out on top as Saturn is so, so strong. Jupiter in the third as the lord of the third gives him strong karma in relation to the armed forces, especially since Sagittarius is there. Mercury brings luck there as the lord of the ninth, a trine, and the Sun there gives him the soul of a warrior. The rising sign Libra is a masculine one, and the determined, hard-as- nails Saturn sits there. What a different picture as compared to the weak moon with Venus in the first. The true rising situation, coupled with the Sun in a warrior sign, indicates the kind of strong leader which India needs. Libra is steady and Saturn is patient. When the sub period of Saturn begins, he will have a good Jupiter transit working for him. At the very beginning, the Sun and Mars will be powerful, too. Jupiter is good because it occupies its own sign, but it has the baggage of being the sixth lord. The Saturn sub period will be different because Saturn has no blemishes- sign and lordship are as perfect as can be. In India's independence chart, the planetary periods are Venus- Saturn. They will be until the end of 2004. Venus is the ascendent lord and Saturn is also the yogakaraka in this chart, the umblemished lord. They both sit strongly in the house of the armed forces and strength, the third. In fact, there is quite a raj yoga in that chart involving the lords of both trines, the ascendent lord and the lords of two quadrants otherwise. No doubt about it, India is strong. Something will happen when Vajpayee enters the Saturnian sub period, thanksto theMartianaspect, and he and India will come out strong, that is for sure. Any opinions,comments? Has Vajpayee's chart ever been discussed on this list before? Dharma/Dean Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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