Mrityu Bhaga Table (Attempted suicide again)

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Dear Narasimha,

 

Om Sai Ram.

 

In my chart, I have 2 planets close to their Mrityu Bhaga.

(1) Mars -- 28 Deg 19 Min Taurus

(2) Jup -- 28 Deg 37 Min Pisces

 

Could you tell me whether they will be considered to be in Mrityu

Bhaga? If they are not in Mrityu Bhaga but in the next degree to it,

will they still give negative effects of mrityu?

 

My Mars Vimsottari Mahadasa is going to start in 2003. Also, Mars is

in 7H from Lagna(Marana Sthana).

 

Please tell me the "Remedies" to take to avert any problems due to

the 2 planets.

 

Regards,

Saraswathy

 

 

vedic astrology, "Narasimha P.V.R. Rao" <pvr@c...> wrote:

> [i sent this mail in the morning, but it somehow didn't make it. I

am

> resending.]

>

> Namaste Sarbani,

>

> That is sad. Hopefully the girl will recover from all of this and

lead a

> happy life in the years to come. May God bless her.

>

> Reading about these suicide attempts, I thought that her current

antardasa

> lord must be in Mrityu Bhaga (the degree of death). Otherwise so

many

> brushes with death are unlikely. So I checked and, sure enough,

that was the

> case.

>

> She is right now running Gemini antardasa ruled by Mercury as per

Narayana

> dasa and Mercury antardasa as per Vimsottari dasa. Because Mercury

is in the

> degree of death, he's trying to give her death. Appease Mercury to

solve the

> problems. Getting "Sudarsana Homam" done will be good, if her

parents have

> inclination and resources.

>

> Mercury's Mrityu Bhaga (the degree of death) in Leo is 8. Though

Dr. K.S.

> Charak interpreted this - see his book on medical astrology - as

Mercury

> giving death in 7.5-8.5 degrees of Leo, his interpretation is

wrong. It is

> based on incorrect knowledge. Though he seems like a genuine and

sincere

> scholar, unfortunately not all of his learning is authentic. Mrityu

bhagas

> are not points, but degrees. These are based on the trimsamsa

(1/30th)

> division of signs. Mercury's Mrityu Bhaga being 8 means that he

gives death

> in the 8th trimsamsa, i.e. 8th degree (i.e. 7-8 degrees), of Leo.

Here

> Mercury is in the 8th degree of Leo and hence in Mrityu Bhaga. He

is the

> only planet in MB.

>

> For the benefit of people who don't have software/book giving the

mrityu

> bhaga positions, here is the list copied from my software's source

code:

>

> double MrityuBhagaDegree2 [NUM_RASIS] =

> {

> // Ar Ta Ge Cn Le Vi Li Sc Sg Cp Aq Pi

> { 20, 9, 12, 6, 8, 24, 16, 17, 22, 2, 3, 23 }, // Sun

> { 26, 12, 13, 25, 24, 11, 26, 14, 13, 25, 5, 12 }, // Moon

> { 19, 28, 25, 23, 29, 28, 14, 21, 2, 15, 11, 6 }, // Mars

> { 15, 14, 13, 12, 8, 18, 20, 10, 21, 22, 7, 5 }, // Merc

> { 19, 29, 12, 27, 6, 4, 13, 10, 17, 11, 15, 28 }, // Jup

> { 28, 15, 11, 17, 10, 13, 4, 6, 27, 12, 29, 19 }, // Ven

> { 10, 4, 7, 9, 12, 16, 3, 18, 28, 14, 13, 15 }, // Sat

> { 14, 13, 12, 11, 24, 23, 22, 21, 10, 20, 18, 8 }, // Rahu

> { 8, 18, 20, 10, 21, 22, 23, 24, 11, 12, 13, 14 }, // Ketu

> { 23, 24, 11, 12, 13, 14, 8, 18, 20, 10, 21, 22 }, // Mandi

> { 1, 9, 22, 22, 25, 2, 4, 23, 18, 20, 24, 10 } // Asc

> };

>

> The above list is from "Phala Deepika" and "Brihat Prajapatyam".

There is

> one more version given in "Saravali", "Sarvartha Chintamani"

and "Jataka

> Parijatam" for Moon's Mrityu Bhagas:

>

> { 8, 25, 22, 22, 21, 1, 4, 23, 18, 20, 20, 10 }, // Moon

>

> Both apparently have their own purposes, but I am not an expert on

this.

>

> May Jupiter's light shine on us,

> Narasimha

>

> > Dear Lucas and other list members,

> >

> > Sometime back I had posted a case of a 18 yr. old girl trying to

commit

> > suicide by attempting to jump off a balcony. Subsequently, she has

> > continued such efforts throughout february and april by cutting

and

> > slashing herself with scissors over and over again. Her hands are

> > mutilated and swollen. I wonder constantly at His grace and

blessings.

> > Last year apparently she had taken 30-40 of her thyroid pills.

Again I

> > wonder how nothing happened. Lucas has explained all that need be

for my

> > queries, that this child needs extensive care. Nevertheless I put

up

> > this case once more. Having just visited the child over the

weekend I am

> > to say the least, shaken and perturbed. Perhaps this sharing

might ease

> > me. Her chart is attached.

> >

> > Sarbani

[Guest guest]

Namaste Saraswathy,

 

> In my chart, I have 2 planets close to their Mrityu Bhaga.

> (1) Mars -- 28 Deg 19 Min Taurus

> (2) Jup -- 28 Deg 37 Min Pisces

 

For Mars, MB in Ta is 28. For Jupiter, MB in Pi is 28. In both the cases,

28th trimsamsa, i.e. 28th degree, is the MB. It starts at 27 degrees and

ends at 28 degrees. You have neither planet in that range. So you have

neither planet in MB.

 

> Could you tell me whether they will be considered to be in Mrityu

> Bhaga? If they are not in Mrityu Bhaga but in the next degree to it,

> will they still give negative effects of mrityu?

 

Jupiter is in Vargottama Uchcha Navamsa in the first 3.3333 degrees of

Cancer. Would he give the results of Vargottama Uchcha Navamsa if he were at

4 degrees of Cancer? No, right?

 

In the same manner, a planet is either in MB or not in it. Being close to MB

is of no relevance. In fact, MB is not a point, but a division

(trimsamsa/degree). Mrityu bhagas are based on trimsamsa (1/30th divisional

chart).

 

To Sarbani:

 

Though Mercury's antardasa as per Vimsottari started in 2000, Gemini AD as

per Narayana dasa started in Sept 2001. Then Saturn's Rohini transit had to

happen, so that Saturn is in Naidhana nakshatra (death), aspects Manaasa

nakshatra (mind) and causes vedha on Adhana nakshatra in Sarvatobhadra

Chakra.

 

Events happen when a lot of factors - various dasas, transits, annual charts

etc - fall in place together.

 

But the bottomline is that Mercury in Mrityu Bhaga has to be appeased to

free her from the forces of death. You said they may not be open to

"Sudarsana Homam". If she can pray to Vishnu, that can help too.

 

May Jupiter's light shine on us,

Narasimha