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10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy">Dear Sarbani,

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I

believe that this girl has the strength and resiliency to recover. I am not as worried

about Saturn in the Lagna as Mohan. And I am confident that the strength of 9th

Lord Mercury, the dispositor of debilitated lagna lord Venus will ultimately protect

her.

 

As

I said,  I

expect the worst to be over by the end of December and further significant

progress can  be made towards the end of

2003. Obviously this girl is a sensitive person and more than anything else, she

needs love and support. You are saying that she gets support from her mother

and sisters and this is very helpful. You write that the root cause of the problem

is a person(s) in the joint family who neglects her. Is this her grandmother or

auntie (Moon in 7th from

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If

this is the case, it is probably important that someone from outside of the

family tries to mediate between the girl and the person who opposes her.

If

a person is able to slash herself with scissors, there must be a mixture of extreme

desperation and anger and I wonder what her “joint family opponent”

has been doing to her to make her so desperate. Is this girl educated?   

 

Regards,

Arno

 

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Nachricht-----

Von: Sarbani Sarkar

[sarbani (AT) vsnl (DOT) com]

Gesendet

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font-family:Tahoma"> Dienstag,

16. April 2002 15:05

An: vedic astrology

Betreff: Re: AW: [vedic astrology]

Attempted suicide again

 

Dear Arno,

The externalities leading to her depression is very

clear. She herself recognizes all this. The death of her father suddenly when

she was 12, and unfortunate circumstances in her joint family, where she is

neglected and unloved, though not by her mother and sisters etc. And yes, she

has a good chart otherwise with saturn exalted in lagna, sun, mars and jupiter

in their own houses. Lucas had given me the indication earlier that the period

till 2003/2005 is dicey. My question is how dicey? Can we save her? Is it

redeemable? I believe we can. I hope we can.

Sarbani

Arno Holzmann wrote:

Dear Sarbani, namaste

After reading your text, I had a very quick look at

the girls chart and

I began to

wonder why she is trying to kill herself. Apart from

astrological

explanations there could also be some external cause which

prompted her

to go for such an extreme act.

Often suicide attempts are related to disappointments

in love. Sometimes

they are

triggered by severe misunderstandings with the parents.

Sometimes,

the suicidal tendency is caused by sexual abuse. These are

just some

common sense considerations which passed though my mind(no

astrological

reasoning involved). So my question is: Is there an

external

cause to the suicide attempts or is it due to general

depression?

At a quick glance, her chart doe not seem unfortunate

to me. I think she

will

overcome this troublesome phase. Once Saturn moves out of the

fourth from

her Moon in the second half of the year things should begin

to

look better.

Regards Arno

-----Ursprüngliche Nachricht-----

Von: Sarbani

Sarkar [sarbani (AT) vsnl (DOT) com]

Gesendet:

Dienstag, 16. April 2002 11:01

An: vedic

astrology

Betreff:

[vedic astrology] Attempted suicide again

Dear Lucas and other list members,

Sometime back I had posted a case of a 18 yr. old girl

trying to commit

suicide by

attempting to jump off a balcony. Subsequently, she has

continued

such efforts throughout february and april by cutting and

slashing

herself with scissors over and over again. Her hands are

mutilated

and swollen. I wonder constantly at His grace and blessings.

Last year

apparently she had taken 30-40 of her thyroid pills. Again I

wonder how

nothing happened. Lucas has explained all that need be for my

queries,

that this child needs extensive care. Nevertheless I put up

this case

once more. Having just visited the child over the weekend I am

to say the

least, shaken and perturbed. Perhaps this sharing might ease

me. Her

chart is attached.

Sarbani

 

 

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Dear Arno,

 

Like you I too am not worried about saturn in lagna for some reason. I

don't know enough astrology but it's just my intuition. But do look at

Narasimha's post on Mrityu bhag. He seems to pin point Mercury, while

you think Mercury is the protector. Definitely Mercury antardasha has

some role to play, because all this began in Mercury antardasha. It is

not any one person in the joint family, but 'persons'. But the two of

the problem figures are 'mother figures', elder aunties. Yes, indeed she

is very desperate as well as sensitive and starving for love and

affection. I have advised her mother to take her to a councillor and so

has her family physician. The girl is very well educated and is studying

in class XII, which is the final year of her schooling. Since last year

she is in a well known public school (boarding) of India and has topped

her class each time. Extermely intelligent, talented, caring, sensitive,

total lack of confidence, guilt complex and feelings of rejection. She

is very calm now, and thinks the way out is to end her life.

 

Sarbani

 

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