AW: Q for the gurus: Black magic in a chart

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Dear Narayan,

 

You are right. Somehow, even Libra Lagna indicates the same thing. I

cannot find any flaw in your reasoning but mysteriously, even the dashas

calculated from Scorpio Lagna show the event clearly. As I indicated

before, I favour Scorpio Lagna because Yogi Karve "saw" Scorpio.

 

Thanks for looking into the matter

 

Regards, Arno

 

PS: I remember reading somewhere that Sankranti dosha begins 6 hours

before the actual sankranti and ends 6 hours after that. If this is

true, the Sun should not be too malefic in my chart.

 

 

-----Ursprüngliche Nachricht-----

Von: iyergroups [iyer_astro]

Gesendet: Sonntag, 24. März 2002 02:45

An: vedic astrology

Betreff: [vedic astrology] Re: Q for the gurus: Black magic in a chart

 

om gurave namah

---------------

 

Dear Arno & Visti,

 

I just thought I should look at your chart from *Libra Lagna* point

of view. So please dont mind this attempt.

 

Five things caught my eye:

 

1. Sankranti Dosha

2. Badhakesh Sun in 6H aspected by Jupiter® who is lord of 6H

and also A6.

3. 6L Jupiter in 12H.

4. Mars aspects Lagna.

5. That Jupiter figuring prominently and its AD started on Dec 23.

 

Sankranti Dosha is supposed to cause job related problems/tensions.

And this is what happened, in that, her main intent was to scare you

from you professional attempt to advertise yourself as a

Professional Astrologer!

 

All this happened during Rahu-Jupiter-Jupiter, in fact Jupiter AD

had started on Dec 23 2000!

 

Jupiter apart from being A6 lord, is in 12H and aspected by

badhakesh gets the nastiness to cause hurt. That Jupiter is also the

9L from UL, indicates that your second wife bore the brunt of the

malefeasance.

 

The 5L associated with Gulika shows Mantra&Tantra in action!

Viscious Old Lady is indicated by Retrograde Jupiter in Tamasic Virgo

 

Regards

Narayan

 

 

vedic astrology, "Arno Holzmann" <arno.holzmann@u...>

wrote:

> Dear Vishti,

>

> many thanks for looking at my chart. I really appreciate that you

work

> so hard and answer so many people´s queries.

> I think quite a few fellow students of jyotish send you their

blessings

> for that and mine are definitely included.

> Keep up the good work.

>

> Before I read your post, I was not aware of Gullikas role in

causing

> troubles through spirits but your explanation

> makes it clear. The envious woman sent me 3 letters which

contained a

> drawing of a mystic symbol

> and the words "hate, death and murder" were arranged around it.

Later on

> I found out that the symbol she mailed me is called Abraxas and is

> actually used for warding off evil. So maybe she did not really

know

> what she was doing there but whatever she did to my wife later on,

was

> very effective indeed.

>

> Your point about Gullika conjunct Saturn nicely explains why my

wife was

> victimized more than I was: Saturn is Lord of Capricorn ( 8th from

UL =

> Lagna of second wife)

> So the spirits which were sent attacked my wife and on top of that

Ketu

> is in 4th from Capricorn which fulfills another of the conditions

> mentioned by you-

>

> The fact that angry and dirty vibrations were sent through letters

and

> phone calls is clearly indicated by

>

> 1) Saturn Lord of 3 (documents) conjunct Gullika (poisonous) in

Lagna

> and aspected by Mars (anger).

> 2) Mercury,ruler of Shatrupada, in house 4: Enmity (A6) was faced

at

> home (house 4) through mean (Rahus aspect) letters

> and phone calls ( Mercury).

>

> Now Mercury usually rules young people. The woman who harassed me

is

> elderly. Is this indicated by Rahus aspect on Mercury?

>

> Again thanks and best wishes

>

> Arno

>

>

>

> -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht-----

> Von: Visti Larsen [in_joy_i_scream]

> Gesendet: Samstag, 23. März 2002 21:44

> An: vedic astrology

> Betreff: Re: [vedic astrology] Q for the gurus: Black magic in a

chart

>

> Vyam Vysadevaya Namah

> ----------------

> Dear Arno,

>

> Here are 3 criterias mentioned in VRA:

> 1. Badhakesh associated with 6th house or Lord.

> 2. 6th lord in 1st, 7th or 12th, as Mars aspects Lagna.

> 3. Ketu in 1st, 4th or 10th as Mars aspects Lagna.

>

> Theres no mention of Rasi vs Graha Dristi, but as its caused by the

> directed anger of another person, i attribute it to graha dristi

and

> hence the desire of the significant other.

>

> Your case satisfies the 2nd criteria.

> Note that your Badhakesh; Moon is in 10th house, showing the area

of the

> problems.

> Badhakesh is in turn in 12th from Arudha Lagna, and being a

> benefic-moon, shows that you ignored a woman(mother) in

professional

> life, and hence the problem comes.

>

>

> The effect of this evil is seen from the lord of Satru Pada.

Mercury

> lords Satrupada and is placed with Venus in the 4th house. Rahu

gives

> Graha Dristi on the same combination. The Karaka of Home and

family is

> Moon and; Mercury, Venus and Rahu are enemies of the Moon and play

> tricks on the mind, hence the mental tension in the home.

>

> This is in turn in the 9th from Upapada, showing the troubles to

second

> wife.. 2nd wife being shown by 8th from Upapada, and the troubles

to the

> same being seen from 2nd from the 8th, hence 9th from Upapada shows

> troubles to 2nd wife.

>

>

> All black magicians have the help of a spirit to cause such evil

towards

> others, and this spirit is indicated by Gulika! So we can see where

> these spirits manifest themselves and come into our lives. Gulika

in

> Lagna(you, your name etc) with Saturn(dirt, pollution), indicates

that

> the spirit was sent through smearing your name with some dirt.

> Saturn lords the 3rd house and hence all written documents, which

may

> have been the means of transporting the evil.

> The evil disapeared once, either the documents were burnt, or Guru

> showed his face, and appeased the enemy with enlightenment.

>

> This happened in the Narayana Maha Dasa of Gemini, aspected by

> Satrupada, and having Rahu in the 5th house. The Antar Dasa was of

> Libra.

>

> Best wishes, Visti.

> -

> Arno Holzmann <arno.holzmann@u...>

> vedic astrology

> Friday, March 22, 2002 9:54 PM

> AW: [vedic astrology] Q for the gurus: Black magic in a

chart

>

> Dear Vishti, namaste

>

> Thanks for sharing your insights regarding black magic.

>

> You wrote:

>

> > Would you like a more elaborate explanation in this

> > regard?....For determining a remedy to apease the angry

> > counterpart, there is a specific way to go about it..

> > do you want an elaboration on this as well?

>

> If it is not too much of trouble for you, I would be interested in

> hearing

> more on this topic for a specific reason:

>

> Starting from December 25, 2000, my wife (she is my second spouse)

> suddenly

> could not fall asleep anymore for more than a week. Virtually out

of the

> blue,

> she started having attacks of paranoia and was out of her mind for

about

> ten days.

> Then the whole thing subsided as mysteriously as it had come and

she

> went

> back to normal without receiving medication or medical aid.

> She has been perfectly normal before this event and is perfectly

normal

> now.

>

> Now, I am not 100 percent sure, but most probably her temporary

fit

> was caused by some black magic and the envious attack probably

came

> from an elderly woman who is dabbling in witchcraft.

>

> The background story is almost too ridiculous to be true: In

October

> 2000 I put an ad in a local newspaper advertising astrological

services

> ( something which I had never done before.)The very next day I

started

> receiving anonymous phone calls at the craziest times of the day

> (at midnight or 4 am etc.) and a few days later I received an

> anonymous death threat by mail. When I received two more such

letters

> threatening my wife and my kids, I went to the police. With the

help of

> the phone company and the police, we soon found out that the

> letters and the phone calls came from the same person, a frustrated

> elderly

> woman who is into black magic and regulary advertises herself as an

> astrologer

> in the local newspaper. Apart from doing witchcraft, She is also

selling

>

> computer horoscopes and for fear of loosing business, she tried to

scare

> me

> and stop me from putting ads in the newspaper.

>

> I have never met her personally and dont know how she looks but I

> talked to her on the phone. By some strange coincidence, one of

her

> previous clients responded to my ad and told me everything about

> this envious person and her involvement in witchcraft.

>

> As I said, I am not sure that she actually did something to my

wife

> but using common sense,it seems highly probable, at least to me.

> Now, I do indeed have Mars in house seven aspecting my Lagna by

graha

> drishti.

> So the first condition given by you is there in my chart.

> Other than that I am not sure whether my chart does show the

possibility

>

> of a black magic attack against me or my wife. What do you think?

Chart

> is attached. Would you mind having a quick look?

>

> Regards, Arno

>

>

> -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht-----

> Von: Visti Larsen [in_joy_i_scream]

> Gesendet: Freitag, 22. März 2002 18:31

> An: vedic astrology

> Betreff: Re: [vedic astrology] Q for the gurus: Black magic in a

chart

>

> Dear Jay,

> Refer to the last chapter of Vedic Remedies in

> Astrology by Sanjay Rath.

>

> Mars should aspect/join Lagna by Graha Dristi, for any

> such manifestation of problems.. This is a first

> criteria, and shows that someone is angry with the

> person, and like Rudra, wants todo some evil towards

> the native.

>

> Now if Ketu is in 1st, 4th or 10th as well, then a

> coil is put around the neck of the person and they can

> become posessed by a spirit.. The remedy in such a

> case is to free the lagna(like in Sarpa Yoga). Some

> people with the mentioned combination will be free

> from this ailment without problems.......

>

> Best wishes, Visti.

>

>

>

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