Q for the gurus: Black magic in a chart-- visti

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Dear Visti

 

vedic astrology, "Visti Larsen" <in_joy_i_scream>

wrote:

> Vyam Vysadevaya Namah

> -----------

> Dear Aru and Arno,

> How forgetful i have been writing emails in the evenings

 

That's alright.

 

> The remedy is sought through the area of the problem. In case of

profession seek Palana Devata, and all business partners/competitors

will be apeased. The Akshara of the Mantra should be the ammount

passed between Lagna and Arudha Lagna. In Arno's case; Ekadasakshari

Chamunda Mantra.

>

> The above mantra will protect the person from professional problems

in general, but to attack the problem directly, worship Shiva with

Mrityunjaya Mantra to remove ill health, and worship Ganapati to

removes obstacles.

> Sanjay Rath mentions Tila Homa, but i don't know what it is.

>

>

> So Aru, why aren't you affected by such evil? Mars is the cause of

anger, and when anger resides, one may resort to such actions as

black magic to satisfy the anger. Hence when Mars aspects the Lagna,

the person is affected by anger. Either directly(Graha dristi) or

inderectly and more circumstancial(Rasi Dristi).

 

I know. Mars in lagna makes one prone to anger. Also, my mars has

conjoined sun and mercury in lagna. Most people get carried away when

they see this combination saying that it makes the native very short

tempered!! But, I personally felt that there are other factors to

look for i.e., shadbala and it's strength in ashtakavarga. In my

case, eventhough I have this fiery combination that too in a fire

sign I come across as a little submissive and often meek. I

attributed this to different factors. One is both mars and sun are

weak in shadbala and ashtakavarga. Moreover, mars is combusted which

only adds to its weakness!! I checked arudha lagna to see any

mitigating factors and third from arudha lagna is occupied by moon

and sixth by exalted jupiter!!! It's true that I get angry but for

some reason I have trouble showing it!

 

 

> When Mars is in Lagna, and AK, then no doubt the person excerts

this anger themself. Theres a great deal for you to learn in this

regard. As Mars is your AK understand and excert non-violence, and

your whole life will become much easier.

>

> As for black magic, i cannot say it won't come from some of those

people who may not like you or your actions, but instead i advocate

faith in god, as even such faith can drive all evil-spirits away.

 

 

I haven't come across black magic so far. But, for some reason I felt

this kind of phenomenon should be checked from D-60 too.

 

 

> Now how to see such strong faith, removing all sarpa in charts?

> It must have todo with the persons actions?

> Check lord of Paka Lagna. Jupiter and Sun can remove the evil, each

in their own way.

 

True. Jupiter exalted or placed in strength with respect to arudha

lagna might be a controlling force. Jupiter should be strong in

shadbala and in my case it is and is also occupying own, moolatrikona

or exalted position in 7 out of ten divisional charts. Please correct

me if I am wrong. Other members are welcome to make any comments.

 

regards

Aru

> Best wishes, Visti.

> -

> aru_dulla

> vedic astrology

> Friday, March 22, 2002 11:17 PM

> [vedic astrology] Re: Q for the gurus: Black magic in a

chart

>

>

> Dear Arno and visti................................That's a very

> strange story indeed!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I too have mars in lagna and

it is

> the atmakaraka but I never came across such strange phenomenon.

Maybe

> there are other reasons for it. I hope visti could be a bit more

> specific on this issue. I am intrigued as much as you are.

>

> regards

> Aru

>

> vedic astrology, "Arno Holzmann" <arno.holzmann@u...>

> wrote:

> > Dear Vishti, namaste

> >

> >

> >

> > Thanks for sharing your insights regarding black magic.

> >

> >

> >

> > You wrote:

> >

> >

> >

> > > Would you like a more elaborate explanation in this

> >

> > > regard?....For determining a remedy to apease the angry

> >

> > > counterpart, there is a specific way to go about it..

> >

> > > do you want an elaboration on this as well?

> >

> >

> >

> > If it is not too much of trouble for you, I would be interested

in

> > hearing

> >

> > more on this topic for a specific reason:

> >

> >

> >

> > Starting from December 25, 2000, my wife (she is my second

spouse)

> > suddenly

> >

> > could not fall asleep anymore for more than a week. Virtually

out

> of the

> > blue,

> >

> > she started having attacks of paranoia and was out of her mind

for

> about

> > ten days.

> >

> > Then the whole thing subsided as mysteriously as it had come

and she

> > went

> >

> > back to normal without receiving medication or medical aid.

> >

> > She has been perfectly normal before this event and is

perfectly

> normal

> > now.

> >

> >

> >

> > Now, I am not 100 percent sure, but most probably her temporary

fit

> >

> > was caused by some black magic and the envious attack probably

came

> >

> > from an elderly woman who is dabbling in witchcraft.

> >

> >

> >

> > The background story is almost too ridiculous to be true: In

> October

> >

> > 2000 I put an ad in a local newspaper advertising astrological

> services

> >

> > ( something which I had never done before.)The very next day I

> started

> >

> > receiving anonymous phone calls at the craziest times of the

day

> >

> > (at midnight or 4 am etc.) and a few days later I received an

> >

> > anonymous death threat by mail. When I received two more such

> letters

> >

> > threatening my wife and my kids, I went to the police. With the

> help of

> >

> > the phone company and the police, we soon found out that the

> >

> > letters and the phone calls came from the same person, a

frustrated

> > elderly

> >

> > woman who is into black magic and regulary advertises herself

as an

> > astrologer

> >

> > in the local newspaper. Apart from doing witchcraft, She is

also

> selling

> >

> >

> > computer horoscopes and for fear of loosing business, she tried

to

> scare

> > me

> >

> > and stop me from putting ads in the newspaper.

> >

> >

> >

> > I have never met her personally and dont know how she looks but

I

> >

> > talked to her on the phone. By some strange coincidence, one of

her

> >

> > previous clients responded to my ad and told me everything

about

> >

> > this envious person and her involvement in witchcraft.

> >

> >

> >

> > As I said, I am not sure that she actually did something to my

wife

> >

> > but using common sense,it seems highly probable, at least to

me.

> >

> > Now, I do indeed have Mars in house seven aspecting my Lagna by

> graha

> > drishti.

> >

> > So the first condition given by you is there in my chart.

> >

> > Other than that I am not sure whether my chart does show the

> possibility

> >

> >

> > of a black magic attack against me or my wife. What do you

think?

> Chart

> >

> > is attached. Would you mind having a quick look?

> >

> >

> >

> > Regards, Arno

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht-----

> > Von: Visti Larsen [in_joy_i_scream]

> > Gesendet: Freitag, 22. März 2002 18:31

> > An: vedic astrology

> > Betreff: Re: [vedic astrology] Q for the gurus: Black magic in

a

> chart

> >

> >

> >

> > Dear Jay,

> >

> > Refer to the last chapter of Vedic Remedies in

> >

> > Astrology by Sanjay Rath.

> >

> >

> >

> > Mars should aspect/join Lagna by Graha Dristi, for any

> >

> > such manifestation of problems.. This is a first

> >

> > criteria, and shows that someone is angry with the

> >

> > person, and like Rudra, wants todo some evil towards

> >

> > the native.

> >

> >

> >

> > Now if Ketu is in 1st, 4th or 10th as well, then a

> >

> > coil is put around the neck of the person and they can

> >

> > become posessed by a spirit.. The remedy in such a

> >

> > case is to free the lagna(like in Sarpa Yoga). Some

> >

> > people with the mentioned combination will be free

> >

> > from this ailment without problems.......

> >

> >

> >

> > Best wishes, Visti.

>

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Vyam Vysadevaya Namah

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Dear Aru,

 

I know. Mars in lagna makes one prone to anger. Also, my mars has conjoined sun

and mercury in lagna. Most people get carried away when they see this

combination saying that it makes the native very short tempered!! But, I

personally felt that there are other factors to look for i.e., shadbala and

it's strength in ashtakavarga.

 

Visti: Paka Lagna(Lagna lord-Rasi) shows the fortune of ones

personality..i.e. how does the person manifest all these indications?

Your Paka lagna is in the secret and inate 8th house. Thats the reason.

 

ShadBala and Astakavarga have other uses. Guruji Zoran, has given a clue in his

article about Avasthas at; http://www.sjvc.org

Happy hunting.

 

I haven't come across black magic so far. But, for some reason I felt this kind

of phenomenon should be checked from D-60 too.

Visti: You can see the reason for other peoples anger towards the person in

D-60. But otherwise it should only be used to see the reason for curses

inherited from past life.

 

In the discussed cases, we are discussing curses given in this life.

 

True. Jupiter exalted or placed in strength with respect to arudha lagna might

be a controlling force.

 

Visti: Actually i was referring to Paka Lagna, and not Arudha Lagna. Even

thou the latter may help avoiding a curse, it will not get rid of one.

 

Gurudeva has stated in the past that allthough theres Sarpa Yoga in his chart,

and also indications of black magic, the single position of Jupiter in Pisces

Lagna, is enough to ward of all curses.. And i agree without a doubt.

 

BPHS: Chapter 10(antidotes for evils) sloka 3:

Just as a single reverential obeisance before Lord Shiva, the Trident holder,

frees one from all sins, a single but strong Jupiter in Lagna will ward of all

evils.

 

Best wishes, Visti.

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DEAR VISTI

 

vedic astrology, "Visti Larsen" <in_joy_i_scream>

wrote:

> Vyam Vysadevaya Namah

> ----------------

> Dear Aru,

>

> Visti: Paka Lagna(Lagna lord-Rasi) shows the fortune of ones

personality..i.e. how does the person manifest all these indications?

> Your Paka lagna is in the secret and inate 8th house. Thats the

reason.

 

> ShadBala and Astakavarga have other uses. Guruji Zoran, has given a

clue in his article about Avasthas at; http://www.sjvc.org

> Happy hunting.

>

>

> Visti: You can see the reason for other peoples anger towards

the person in D-60. But otherwise it should only be used to see the

reason for curses inherited from past life.

>

> In the discussed cases, we are discussing curses given in this life.

>

> Visti: Actually i was referring to Paka Lagna, and not Arudha

Lagna. Even thou the latter may help avoiding a curse, it will not

get rid of one.

 

WILL JUPITER'S ASPECT ON LAGNA AVOID OR GET RID OF THIS CURSE. DO WE

HAVE TO REFER TO NAVAMSA OR ANY OTHER DIVISIONAL CHARTS TO LOOK FOR

INDICATIONS OF BLACK MAGIC?? WHAT IF JUPITER IS PLACED IN STRENGTH IN

NAVMSA? DOES THIS HELP?

 

 

 

> Gurudeva has stated in the past that allthough theres Sarpa Yoga in

his chart, and also indications of black magic, the single position

of Jupiter in Pisces Lagna, is enough to ward of all curses.. And i

agree without a doubt.

>

> BPHS: Chapter 10(antidotes for evils) sloka 3:

> Just as a single reverential obeisance before Lord Shiva, the

Trident holder, frees one from all sins, a single but strong Jupiter

in Lagna will ward of all evils.

 

THANX A LOT FOR THE REMEDY!!! DEAR VISTI, YOU'RE AN ASSET TO THIS

WEBSITE! THANKS AGAIN.

 

REGARDS

ARU

>

> Best wishes, Visti.

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Vyam Vysadevaya Namah

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Dear Aru,

The varga to see Roga and Satru is Shasthamsa(D-6).

Navamsa will also show some clues offcourse.

 

The idea i'm trying to put in your head is that, if you believe and regularly

worship The Supreme Lord Hari, then even the dark forces of evil spirits can

not touch you.

 

Your Lord of Paka Lagna; Moon is in 5th house in Aries. You should be able to

remove such ailments quickly.

Best wishes, Visti.

-

aru_dulla

vedic astrology

Sunday, March 24, 2002 5:05 PM

[vedic astrology] Re: Q for the gurus: Black magic in a chart-- visti

DEAR VISTIvedic astrology, "Visti Larsen" <in_joy_i_scream>

wrote:> Vyam Vysadevaya Namah>

----------------> Dear Aru, > > Visti: Paka

Lagna(Lagna lord-Rasi) shows the fortune of ones personality..i.e. how does the

person manifest all these indications?> Your Paka lagna is in the secret and

inate 8th house. Thats the reason.> ShadBala and Astakavarga have other uses.

Guruji Zoran, has given a clue in his article about Avasthas at;

http://www.sjvc.org> Happy hunting.> > > Visti: You can see the reason for

other peoples anger towards the person in D-60. But otherwise it should only be

used to see the reason for curses inherited from past life.> > In the discussed

cases, we are discussing curses given in this life.> > Visti: Actually i was

referring to Paka Lagna, and not Arudha Lagna. Even thou the latter may help

avoiding a curse, it will not get rid of one.WILL JUPITER'S ASPECT ON LAGNA

AVOID OR GET RID OF THIS CURSE. DO WE HAVE TO REFER TO NAVAMSA OR ANY OTHER

DIVISIONAL CHARTS TO LOOK FOR INDICATIONS OF BLACK MAGIC?? WHAT IF JUPITER IS

PLACED IN STRENGTH IN NAVMSA? DOES THIS HELP?> Gurudeva has stated in the past

that allthough theres Sarpa Yoga in his chart, and also indications of black

magic, the single position of Jupiter in Pisces Lagna, is enough to ward of all

curses.. And i agree without a doubt.> > BPHS: Chapter 10(antidotes for evils)

sloka 3:> Just as a single reverential obeisance before Lord Shiva, the Trident

holder, frees one from all sins, a single but strong Jupiter in Lagna will ward

of all evils.THANX A LOT FOR THE REMEDY!!! DEAR VISTI, YOU'RE AN ASSET TO THIS

WEBSITE! THANKS AGAIN.REGARDSARU> > Best wishes, Visti.Archives:

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