AW: Q for the gurus: Black magic in a chart

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10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy">Dear Vishti,

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EN-GB">many

EN-GB"> thanks for looking at my chart. I really appreciate that you work so hard

and answer so many people´s queries.

I

think quite a few fellow students of jyotish send you their blessings for that and

mine are definitely included.

Keep

up the good work.

 

Before

I read your post, I was not aware of Gullikas role in causing troubles through

spirits but your explanation

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of a mystic symbol

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EN-GB"> the words “hate, death and murder” were arranged around it.

Later on I found out that the symbol she mailed me is called Abraxas and is

EN-GB">actually

EN-GB"> used for warding off evil. So maybe she did not really know what she

was doing there but whatever she did to my wife later on, was

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Your

point about Gullika conjunct Saturn nicely explains why my wife was  victimized more

than I was: Saturn is Lord of Capricorn ( 8th from UL = Lagna of

second wife)

So

the spirits which were sent attacked my wife and on top of that Ketu is in 4th

from Capricorn which fulfills another of the conditions mentioned by you-

 

The

fact that angry and dirty vibrations were sent through letters and phone calls is

clearly indicated by

 

1)

Saturn Lord of 3 (documents)  conjunct Gullika (poisonous)  in Lagna and aspected by Mars (anger).

2)

Mercury,ruler of Shatrupada, in house 4: Enmity (A6)

was faced at home (house 4)  through mean

(Rahus aspect) letters

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EN-GB"> phone calls ( Mercury).

 

Now

Mercury usually rules young people. The woman who harassed me is elderly. Is

this indicated by Rahus aspect on Mercury?

 

Again

thanks and best wishes

 

EN-GB">Arno

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Von: Visti Larsen

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Gesendet: Samstag, 23. März 2002 21:44

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Vyam Vysadevaya Namah

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Dear Arno,

 

Here are 3 criterias

mentioned in VRA:

1. Badhakesh associated with

6th house or Lord.

2. 6th lord in 1st, 7th or

12th, as Mars aspects Lagna.

3. Ketu in 1st, 4th or 10th

as Mars aspects Lagna.

 

Theres no mention of Rasi vs

Graha Dristi, but as its caused by the directed anger of another person, i

attribute it to graha dristi and hence the desire of the significant other.

 

Your case satisfies the 2nd

criteria.

Note that your Badhakesh;

Moon is in 10th house, showing the area of the problems.

Badhakesh is in turn in 12th

from Arudha Lagna, and being a benefic-moon, shows that you ignored a

woman(mother) in professional life, and hence the problem comes.

 

 

The effect of this evil is

seen from the lord of Satru Pada. Mercury lords Satrupada and is placed with

Venus in the 4th house. Rahu gives Graha Dristi on the same combination. The

Karaka of Home and family is Moon and; Mercury, Venus and Rahu are enemies of

the Moon and play tricks on the mind, hence the mental tension in the home.

 

This is in turn in the 9th

from Upapada, showing the troubles to second wife.. 2nd wife being shown by 8th

from Upapada, and the troubles to the same being seen from 2nd from the 8th,

hence 9th from Upapada shows troubles to 2nd wife.

 

 

All black magicians have the

help of a spirit to cause such evil towards others, and this spirit is

indicated by Gulika! So we can see where these spirits manifest themselves and

come into our lives. Gulika in Lagna(you, your name etc) with Saturn(dirt,

pollution), indicates that the spirit was sent through smearing your name with

some dirt.

Saturn lords the 3rd house

and hence all written documents, which may have been the means of transporting

the evil.

The evil disapeared

once, either the documents were burnt, or Guru showed his face, and

appeased the enemy with enlightenment.

 

This happened in the

Narayana Maha Dasa of Gemini, aspected by Satrupada, and having Rahu in the 5th

house. The Antar Dasa was of Libra.

 

Best wishes, Visti.

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10.0pt;font-family:Arial"> Arno Holzmann

vedic astrology

Friday,

March 22, 2002 9:54 PM

AW:

[vedic astrology] Q for the gurus: Black magic in a chart

 

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Vishti, namaste

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for sharing your insights regarding black magic.

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wrote:

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Would you like a more elaborate explanation in this

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regard?....For determining a remedy to apease the angry

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counterpart, there is a specific way to go about it..

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do you want an elaboration on this as well?

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it is not too much of trouble for you, I would be interested in hearing

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on this topic for a specific reason:

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from December 25, 2000, my wife (she is my second spouse) suddenly

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not fall asleep anymore for more than a week. Virtually out of the blue,

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having attacks of paranoia and was out of her mind for about ten days.

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the whole thing subsided as mysteriously as it had come and she went

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to normal without receiving medication or medical aid.

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has been perfectly normal before this event and is perfectly normal now.

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margin-bottom:0cm;margin-left:35.4pt;margin-bottom:.0001pt">Now,

I am not 100 percent sure, but most probably her temporary fit

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by some black magic and the envious attack probably came

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an elderly woman who is dabbling in witchcraft.

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background story is almost too ridiculous to be true: In October

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I put an ad in a local newspaper advertising astrological services

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something which I had never done before.)The very next day I started

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phone calls at the craziest times of the day

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midnight or 4 am etc.) and a few days later I received an

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death threat by mail. When I received two more such letters

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my wife and my kids, I went to the police. With the help of

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phone company and the police, we soon found out that the

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and the phone calls came from the same person, a frustrated elderly

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who is into black magic and regulary advertises herself as an astrologer

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the local newspaper. Apart from doing witchcraft, She is also selling

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horoscopes and for fear of loosing business, she tried to scare me

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stop me from putting ads in the newspaper.

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have never met her personally and dont know how she looks but I

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to her on the phone. By some strange coincidence, one of her

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clients responded to my ad and told me everything about

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envious person and her involvement in witchcraft.

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margin-bottom:0cm;margin-left:35.4pt;margin-bottom:.0001pt">As I

said, I am not sure that she actually did something to my wife

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using common sense,it seems highly probable, at least to me.

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I do indeed have Mars in house seven aspecting my Lagna by graha drishti.

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the first condition given by you is there in my chart.

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than that I am not sure whether my chart does show the possibility

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a black magic attack against me or my wife. What do you think? Chart

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attached. Would you mind having a quick look?

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Arno

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Von: Visti Larsen [in_joy_i_scream ]

Gesendet: Freitag, 22.

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An: vedic astrology

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Jay,

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to the last chapter of Vedic Remedies in

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by Sanjay Rath.

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should aspect/join Lagna by Graha Dristi, for any

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manifestation of problems.. This is a first

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and shows that someone is angry with the

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and like Rudra, wants todo some evil towards

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native.

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margin-bottom:0cm;margin-left:35.4pt;margin-bottom:.0001pt">Now

if Ketu is in 1st, 4th or 10th as well, then a

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is put around the neck of the person and they can

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posessed by a spirit.. The remedy in such a

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is to free the lagna(like in Sarpa Yoga). Some

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with the mentioned combination will be free

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this ailment without problems.......

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margin-bottom:0cm;margin-left:35.4pt;margin-bottom:.0001pt">Best

wishes, Visti.

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