Black magic in a chart- for Visti

March 23, 2002

Dear Visti,

If you recall Sanjays words during his lecture in London on Arudhas (I have

the tape - you were there) he said that no one was our enemy (a word he does

not like) when we were born. Enmity is a state of mind for some souls. As

all are aware of, a chart does show 'enemies' either visible or invisible

ones.

However, astrologically in the position of counselors we must be able to

observe such periods in order to be able to help and guide others who are

less unfortunate and find themselves in such circumstances - without even

been aware of its reasons.

I was lucky to come up with the upper hand from such a case (thanks to my

interest in astrology - my chart details are below for those interested). As

for the other two charts in my possession I do not have the individuals

permission to disclose them which I must respect.

Kind regards

Jay

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"Visti Larsen" <in_joy_i_scream

Saturday, March 23, 2002 7:22 PM

Re: [vedic astrology] Re: Q for the gurus: Black magic in a chart-

for Visti

> Vyam Vysadevaya Namah

> ------

> Dear Jay,

> Black magic is nothing more than a curse caused by

> another persons dismay. Do not attribute any more

> meanings to the activities, that such petty souls use

> to gain satisfaction from such temporary states of

> consciousness.

>

> Do give the charts, and we shall see the problem.

> Best wishes, Visti.

>

> --- Jay Weiss <jayhw wrote:

> > Dear Visti,

> >

> > Thanks for your explanation.

> > Unfortunately the VRA book is the only one I miss

> > (yet) in my library.

> >

> > If my memory does not fail me (or my notes), none of

> > the charts that were

> > pointed at as been influenced by "black magic" have

> > any of the mentioned

> > issues in them.

> >

> > I think that there is more behind this "black magic"

> > issue that is kept

> > within closed circles, otherwise it would have been

> > mentioned in various

> > writings, wouldn't it ?

> >

> > Kind regards

> >

> > Jay

> >

> > -

> > "Visti Larsen" <in_joy_i_scream

> > <vedic astrology>

> > Friday, March 22, 2002 6:30 PM

> > Re: [vedic astrology] Q for the gurus:

> > Black magic in a chart

> >

> > > Vyam Vysadevaya Namah

> > > --------

> > > Dear Jay,

> > > Refer to the last chapter of Vedic Remedies in

> > > Astrology by Sanjay Rath.

> > >

> > > Mars should aspect/join Lagna by Graha Dristi, for

> > any

> > > such manifestation of problems.. This is a first

> > > criteria, and shows that someone is angry with the

> > > person, and like Rudra, wants todo some evil

> > towards

> > > the native.

> > >

> > > Now if Ketu is in 1st, 4th or 10th as well, then a

> > > coil is put around the neck of the person and they

> > can

> > > become posessed by a spirit.. The remedy in such a

> > > case is to free the lagna(like in Sarpa Yoga).

> > Some

> > > people with the mentioned combination will be free

> > > from this ailment without problems.

> > > Would you like a more elaborate explanation in

> > this

> > > regard?

> > >

> > > If instead/and Badhakesh is associated with the

> > 6th

> > > house or Mars, then again such results can

> > manifest.

> > >

> > > The person who does the evil is seen from the

> > > Satrupada(A6).

> > > The remedy in such a case is to establish

> > friendship

> > > with the angry counterpart or remove the curse

> > itself.

> > > For the latter, we must remove darkness, hence

> > worship

> > > of Rama, the sattwic embodiment of the Sun, will

> > > remove all darkness.

> > > For determining a remedy to apease the angry

> > > counterpart, there is a specific way to go about

> > it..

> > > do you want an elaboration on this as well?

> > >

> > > Best wishes, Visti.

> > >

> > > --- Jay Weiss <jayhw wrote:

> > > > Dear gurus and list members,

> > > >

> > > > During the last couple of years I came across

> > > > private writings with the comment that a

> > specific

> > > > chart is "influenced by black magic".

> > > > None of the astrologers who issued the statement

> > > > went into explainig it.

> > > >

> > > > I trust that there is someone on the list who is

> > > > aware of this and can explain

> > > > 1) It's basics - what planetary positions and

> > > > combinations are involved

> > > > 2) Eventual remedies.

> > > >

> > > > Thanks in advance

> > > > Kind regards

> > > >

> > > > Jay Weiss

> > > >

> > >

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March 24, 2002

Vyam Vysadevaya Namah

--------

Dear Jay,

The Black Magic cuse in your chart is indicated by Badhakesh; Mars joined with

6th lord Saturn. Saturn is also 7th lord and placed in 8th from Arudha Lagna..

well there you go.

I do indeed recall Gurudevas words, and try to live by them.

Best wishes, Visti.

-

Jay Weiss

vedic astrology

Saturday, March 23, 2002 8:48 PM

[vedic astrology] Re: Black magic in a chart- for Visti

Dear Visti,If you recall Sanjays words during his lecture in London on Arudhas

(I havethe tape - you were there) he said that no one was our enemy (a word he

doesnot like) when we were born. Enmity is a state of mind for some souls.

Asall are aware of, a chart does show 'enemies' either visible or

invisibleones.However, astrologically in the position of counselors we must be

able toobserve such periods in order to be able to help and guide others who

areless unfortunate and find themselves in such circumstances - without

evenbeen aware of its reasons.I was lucky to come up with the upper hand from

such a case (thanks to myinterest in astrology - my chart details are below for

those interested). Asfor the other two charts in my possession I do not have the

individualspermission to disclose them which I must respect.Kind regardsJay-----

Original Message -----"Visti Larsen" <in_joy_i_scream >To:

<vedic astrology>Saturday, March 23, 2002 7:22 PMSubject:

Re: [vedic astrology] Re: Q for the gurus: Black magic in a chart-for Visti>

Vyam Vysadevaya Namah> ------> Dear Jay,>

Black magic is nothing more than a curse caused by> another persons dismay. Do

not attribute any more> meanings to the activities, that such petty souls use>

to gain satisfaction from such temporary states of> consciousness.>> Do give

the charts, and we shall see the problem.> Best wishes, Visti.>>>> --- Jay

Weiss <jayhw (AT) telia (DOT) com> wrote:> > Dear Visti,> >> > Thanks for your

explanation.> > Unfortunately the VRA book is the only one I miss> > (yet) in

my library.> >> > If my memory does not fail me (or my notes), none of> > the

charts that were> > pointed at as been influenced by "black magic" have> > any

of the mentioned> > issues in them.> >> > I think that there is more behind

this "black magic"> > issue that is kept> > within closed circles, otherwise it

would have been> > mentioned in various> > writings, wouldn't it ?> >> > Kind

regards> >> > Jay> >> >> > -> > "Visti Larsen"

<in_joy_i_scream >> > <vedic astrology>> > Sent:

Friday, March 22, 2002 6:30 PM> > Re: [vedic astrology] Q for the

gurus:> > Black magic in a chart> >> >> > > Vyam Vysadevaya Namah> > >

--------> > > Dear Jay,> > > Refer to the last

chapter of Vedic Remedies in> > > Astrology by Sanjay Rath.> > >> > > Mars

should aspect/join Lagna by Graha Dristi, for> > any> > > such manifestation of

problems.. This is a first> > > criteria, and shows that someone is angry with

the> > > person, and like Rudra, wants todo some evil> > towards> > > the

native.> > >> > > Now if Ketu is in 1st, 4th or 10th as well, then a> > > coil

is put around the neck of the person and they> > can> > > become posessed by a

spirit.. The remedy in such a> > > case is to free the lagna(like in Sarpa

Yoga).> > Some> > > people with the mentioned combination will be free> > >

from this ailment without problems.> > > Would you like a more elaborate

explanation in> > this> > > regard?> > >> > > If instead/and Badhakesh is

associated with the> > 6th> > > house or Mars, then again such results can> >

manifest.> > >> > > The person who does the evil is seen from the> > >

Satrupada(A6).> > > The remedy in such a case is to establish> > friendship> >

> with the angry counterpart or remove the curse> > itself.> > > For the

latter, we must remove darkness, hence> > worship> > > of Rama, the sattwic

embodiment of the Sun, will> > > remove all darkness.> > > For determining a

remedy to apease the angry> > > counterpart, there is a specific way to go

about> > it..> > > do you want an elaboration on this as well?> > >> > > Best

wishes, Visti.> > >> > >> > > --- Jay Weiss <jayhw (AT) telia (DOT) com> wrote:> > > >

Dear gurus and list members,> > > >> > > > During the last couple of years I

came across> > > > private writings with the comment that a> > specific> > > >

chart is "influenced by black magic".> > > > None of the astrologers who issued

the statement> > > > went into explainig it.> > > >> > > > I trust that there is

someone on the list who is> > > > aware of this and can explain> > > > 1) It's

basics - what planetary positions and> > > > combinations are involved> > > >

2) Eventual remedies.> > > >> > > > Thanks in advance> > > > Kind regards> > >

>> > > > Jay Weiss> > > >> > > >> > >> > >> > >

> > > > > >

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March 24, 2002

Thanks visti,

This is what I also "discovered" a while ago as well as a few other vital issues

that were trigged by Arno.

I am confident that all this 'digging and learning' will come to good use and

help others in the future.

As always Visti, thanks for been here!

Greetings

Jay

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Visti Larsen

vedic astrology

Sunday, March 24, 2002 10:37 AM

Re: [vedic astrology] Re: Black magic in a chart- for Visti