Q for the gurus: Black magic in a chart - Arno etc.

March 23, 2002

Dear Arno,

Amazing story and could be very true indeed ... see the following:

I had a bad period of unemployment and failure in business during 1993 and 1997

when an astrologer told me in 1997 (I started with Jyotish in 1995) that he

"thinks" my chart (and current period) were under some spell of black magic.

While in Los Angeles in May 1997 (Jupiter/Rahu period - Ju is L5&8 in 5th

aspected by Rahu who is in the 9th (Marana Karaka) and with the Sun lord of

lagna which is also aspected by Rahu(!)) a good friend of mine who is an

excellent palmist said (and showed me where) that there is a sign in my hand

that points at an active curse (!). I had no visible enemies to blame but he

insisted that this is something that is connected with my first marriage.

Now see this:

Towards the end of this dasa (Ju - Ju/Ra) around August 98' (the beginning of

Saturn mahadasa) the sign in my palm disappeared and the next 3 years were very

rewarding.

What I figured out is the connections of 1-5-9 (the tripod of life/luck) and the 8th.

Why the 8th ? I have the AK Mercury there as L2/L11 ...

There is more to it but ...

Maybe now one of the senior Gurus will enrich us with some wisdom about this

issue as I truly believe that there is much untold stuff 'hidden' away,

probably as a protection against misuse.

Kind regards

Jay Wiess

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Arno Holzmann

vedic astrology

Friday, March 22, 2002 9:54 PM

AW: [vedic astrology] Q for the gurus: Black magic in a chart

Dear Vishti, namaste

Thanks for sharing your insights regarding black magic.

You wrote:

> Would you like a more elaborate explanation in this

> regard?....For determining a remedy to apease the angry

> counterpart, there is a specific way to go about it..

> do you want an elaboration on this as well?

If it is not too much of trouble for you, I would be interested in hearing

more on this topic for a specific reason:

Starting from December 25, 2000, my wife (she is my second spouse) suddenly

could not fall asleep anymore for more than a week. Virtually out of the blue,

she started having attacks of paranoia and was out of her mind for about ten days.

Then the whole thing subsided as mysteriously as it had come and she went

back to normal without receiving medication or medical aid.

She has been perfectly normal before this event and is perfectly normal now.

Now, I am not 100 percent sure, but most probably her temporary fit

was caused by some black magic and the envious attack probably came

from an elderly woman who is dabbling in witchcraft.

The background story is almost too ridiculous to be true: In October

2000 I put an ad in a local newspaper advertising astrological services

( something which I had never done before.)The very next day I started

receiving anonymous phone calls at the craziest times of the day

(at midnight or 4 am etc.) and a few days later I received an

anonymous death threat by mail. When I received two more such letters

threatening my wife and my kids, I went to the police. With the help of

the phone company and the police, we soon found out that the

letters and the phone calls came from the same person, a frustrated elderly

woman who is into black magic and regulary advertises herself as an astrologer

in the local newspaper. Apart from doing witchcraft, She is also selling

computer horoscopes and for fear of loosing business, she tried to scare me

and stop me from putting ads in the newspaper.

I have never met her personally and dont know how she looks but I

talked to her on the phone. By some strange coincidence, one of her

previous clients responded to my ad and told me everything about

this envious person and her involvement in witchcraft.

As I said, I am not sure that she actually did something to my wife

but using common sense,it seems highly probable, at least to me.

Now, I do indeed have Mars in house seven aspecting my Lagna by graha drishti.

So the first condition given by you is there in my chart.

Other than that I am not sure whether my chart does show the possibility

of a black magic attack against me or my wife. What do you think? Chart

is attached. Would you mind having a quick look?

Regards, Arno

-----Ursprüngliche Nachricht-----Von: Visti Larsen

[in_joy_i_scream ] Gesendet: Freitag, 22. März 2002 18:31An:

vedic astrologyBetreff: Re: [vedic astrology] Q for the gurus:

Black magic in a chart

Dear Jay,

Refer to the last chapter of Vedic Remedies in

Astrology by Sanjay Rath.

Mars should aspect/join Lagna by Graha Dristi, for any

such manifestation of problems.. This is a first

criteria, and shows that someone is angry with the

person, and like Rudra, wants todo some evil towards

the native.

Now if Ketu is in 1st, 4th or 10th as well, then a

coil is put around the neck of the person and they can

become posessed by a spirit.. The remedy in such a

case is to free the lagna(like in Sarpa Yoga). Some

people with the mentioned combination will be free

from this ailment without problems.......

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March 23, 2002

Dear Arno,

Mars and Saturn are in cancer, the 12th ... A6 falls in the third (Libra) with Ketu ...

Kind regards

Jay

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Arno Holzmann

vedic astrology

Saturday, March 23, 2002 5:46 PM

AW: [vedic astrology] Re: Q for the gurus: Black magic in a chart - Arno etc.

-----Ursprüngliche Nachricht-----Von: Jay Weiss [jayhw (AT) telia (DOT) com]

Gesendet: Samstag, 23. März 2002 12:14An:

vedic astrologyBetreff: [vedic astrology] Re: Q for the gurus:

Black magic in a chart - Arno etc.

Dear Jay,

Where is Mars in your chart and where is Saturn? If your first wife was actually

involved in the curse, then we might be able to tell from

A6.