Guest guest Posted March 22, 2002 Report Share Posted March 22, 2002 Dear Partha and list members, Thanks for you mail which I'm sure will awake several responses. I see that you are using 'true time zone' in your chart casting (i.e 4 min/deg). Most astrologers use standard zone but I have seen some using the exact zone as you did. Can you justify this when comparing with results to the standard time ? This is an important issue in that it changes the entire chart and it's effects are just as significant as the ayanamsa. Other members opinions are mostly welcome. Thanks - kind regards Jay Weiss - partha sarathy vedic astrology Friday, March 22, 2002 9:06 AM [vedic astrology] Profession+analysis+Article Dear friends Below i have written a small article on profession analysis. I have not covered the dasa analysis which i hope to do some other day. The article is very basic and points out the basic techniques. hope you would not mind the long article. Profession analysis is one of the most interesting aspects of jyotish. There are different parameters and rules that need to be understood before delineating the profession of a person. The different techniques and tools may baffle any youngster learning jyotish. If the young learner takes a simple top down approach, he would get the right answers. The top down approach ! is to look at rasi chart, the placements of different planets, nakshatras and dispositors. The second step in this approach is to look at the navamsa chart and the planets therein. The third step is to look at the dasamsa chart and tally the results. Though dasamsa chart is very vital in our analysis, the most important point here is to remember that the dasamsa should confirm the placements in the rasi chart and not create new doubts. The first and foremost step is to look at the following houses and lords in the rasi chart. These are 2nd, 6th, 7th, 10th and 11th. These are very important houses to judge the horoscope for ! profession. 2nd shows the acquisition of wealth and reputation in profession, 6th the service, 7th partners, 10th the profession, 11th the gains in profession. Stronger 6th house shows service, whereas the stronger 7th house shows business. In most cases the relation of 10th house or lord to Saturn creates hurdles in business and thus the natives having such dispositions are usually advised for service. Lagna lord in 9th or 10th, 7th house strong, the Venus and mercury signs being predominant in the chart lead the native to go for business. But careful assessment needs to be done before giving such a ruling. The nakshatras greatly modify the results. If we go alone by aforesaid planets and their placements in different houses we are ! making a mistake. We need to look at the nakshatras-their positions and also the subsequent nakshatra dispositors. I would give example of the military nakshatras; these are aswini, krittika, arudra, uttaraphalguni, swati, jyeshtha, poorvashadha, uttarashadha, and dhanistha. Now the aforesaid planets such as the 10th lord, the 11th lord, 2nd lord, 6th lord in such nakshatras coupled with the fact that the 3rd 6th and 10th houses are very strong (also most of them being fire signs) would give the native a job in the military. Let us take some sample charts and analyze the profession of the concerned people. The first chart is of the great psychoanalyst Sigmund Freud. The master psychologist! had a chequered life and it would be interesting to see the pointers to his career from the chart. Freud, Sigmund Natal Chart May 6, 1856Time: 18:30:00Time Zone: 1:12:36 (East of GMT)Longitude: 18 E 09' 00"Latitude: &nbs! p; 49 N 38' 00"Altitude: 0.00 meters Body Longitude Nakshatra Pada Rasi Navamsa ChKarak Lagna 15 Li 39' 38.00" Swathi 3 Li Aq - Sun 24 Ar 28' 26.54" Bharani 4 Ar Sc AmK Moon 22 Ta 40' 24.46" Rohini 4 Ta Cn BK Mars ® 11 Vi 31' 05.02" Hastha 1 Vi Ar MK Mercury 5 Ta 56' 07.40" Krittika 3 Ta Aq PK Jupiter 7 Pi 43' 23.56" U.Bhaa. 2 Pi Vi PiK Venus 4 Ar 20' 47.98" Aswini 2 Ar Ta DK Saturn 5 Ge 42' 14.58" Mrigasira 4 Ge Sc GK Rahu 1 Ar 37' 00.08" Aswini 1 Ar Ar AK Ketu 1 Li 37' 00.08" Chitra 3 Li Li - Bhava Lagna 23 Sc 17' 00.22" Jyeshtha 2 Sc Cp - Hora Lagna 22 Ge 39' 19.20" Punarvasu 1 Ge Ar - Gha! ti Lagna 20 Pi 46' 16.14" Revathi 2 Pi Cp - Jupiter GL Ven, rahu, sun Merc, moon Sat HL RASI AL Ascendant Ketu mars Rahu Mars Venus AL Ascendant Mercury Navamsa Moon ! Saturn Sun Ketu Jupiter Ascendant Rahu Venus GL Mercury Dasamsa Saturn Jupiter Mars Moon SUN AL Ketu Let us take a top down approach to the chart. Rasi chart: here the lagna lord is Venus and he is with exalted sun and also rahu. The 10th lord moon is with 9th cum 12th lord mercury and both are positioned in 8th house. Jupiter the third cum 6th lord is in 6th house of diseases, healing etc. The healing houses of the zodiac are the signs Virgo and Pisces. Mars the 2nd lord is in 12th in the nakshatra of hastha (moon lord). Moon is the nakshatra lord of the 10th lord, 2nd lord that suggests some mental work for Freud. The 11th house from the Arudha lagna has moon and mercury suggesting gains from mental work, like writing, psychology etc. ((Note: There is an unmistakable role of dusthanas in the charts of doctors and healers.)) In the navamsa chart, the 10th lord of rasi chart moon is in its own navamsa and is 6th from the navamsa lagna; Jupiter is in 8th from navamsa lagna. 2nd lord mar is in his own navamsa and aspects moon. Saturn rules diseases and he is in 10th house from the navamsa chart with the Sun-the natural karaka for life giver. The dasamsa chart 5th and 10th houses are for profession and 9th house is for boss. 9th house is Scorpio and the lord mars is with moon in the 6th house of service (Leo). Sun is in 10th house from the dasamsa lagna showing very good reputation. Moon is very important in the dasamsa chart also as he is the 5th lord of profession and is with mars in 6th house of service. Thus the role of psychology and medicine is quite evident from the dasamsa chart. Freud worked in a government hospital initially before setting up his own clinic. This could be seen from the 9th lord The AL is the dasamsa chart is of Scorpio, which gave him fame in research activities. He was known for going deep into the secrets of the Human mind. The conclusion is that moon is quite dominating in the concerned rasi and divisional charts for Sigmund Freud and his placement in the dusthanas has given him a career in psychology and medicine. Case ii Adolf Hitler Hitler was one of the greatest personalities of the twentieth century. His ! chart definitely merits a look. Let us see his chart Hitler, Adolf Natal Chart A! pril 20, 1889Time: 18:30:00Time Zone: 0:52:00 (East of GMT)Longitude: 13 E 00' 00"Latitude: 48 N 00' 00" Body Longitude Nakshatra Pada Rasi Navamsa ChKarakLagna 4 Li 27' 03.94" Chitra 4 Li Sc -Sun 8 Ar 30' 18.80" Aswini 3 Ar Ge PKMoon 14 Sg 19' 30.23" Poo.Shaa. 1 Sg Le PiKMars 24 Ar 04' 59.47" Bharani 4 Ar Sc AmKMercury 3 Ar 22' 32.79" Aswini 2 Ar Ta DKJupiter 15 Sg 56' 17.71" Poo.Shaa. 1 Sg Le MKVenus ® 24 Ar 23' 13.82" Bharani 4 Ar Sc AKSaturn 21 Cn 09' 11.06" Aasresha 2 Cn Cp BKRahu 23 Ge 44' 58.99" Punarvasu 2 Ge Ta GKKetu ! ; 23 Sg 44' 58.99" Poo.Shaa. 4 Sg Sc -Bhava Lagna 29 Li 19' 54.02" Visakha 3 Li Ge -Hora Lagna 20 Ta 42' 12.24" Rohini 4 Ta Cn -Ghati Lagna 24 Cp 49' 06.89" Dhanishtha 1 Cp Le - Mars, sun mercury, Venus Ketu Rasi Saturn AL GL Jupiter Moon Rahu Ascendant Moon GL Jupiter mercury Sun Dasamsa ketu Rahu AL ! Venus ! mars Ascendant Saturn Rahu mercury Sun Navamsa Saturn ! Jupiter Moon GL AL Ascendant! Mars venus, ketu Ketu ! In the rasi chart the 2nd lord mars is in 7th house and he is in the nakshatra of bharani. Moon the 10th lord is in third house of valour and courage in the nakshatra of poorvashadha. The nakshatra dispositor of moon is Venus who is in Aries again!. Aries the fiery rasi has four planets, Sagittarius the fiery rasi has three planets, and thus it is clear from the rasi chart that Hitler had to be in military. AL has Saturn giving an impression of a very cold-hearted person. Navamsa chart has 10th lord moon in leo navamsa with Jupiter suggesting a royal position for Hitler. Also GL and AL are in leo, giving him extraordinary fame. Dasamsa ::The 10th lord is in the dasamsa of mars again, mars and venus are in 2nd house in Sagittarius another fiery sign. The artha trikonas show the livelihood it is evident from the fire signs that he would be in military. Rahu is in AL and is in third from the lagna showing him as a courageous leader. The 10th lord sun is in 8th showing obstacles in service and profession. 9th lord the organisation is in the 6th house of service (aries) suggesting a fiery profession. regards partha The article is not complete, to be continued with examples of Charlie chaplin and oth! ers. Archives: vedic astrologyGroup info: vedic astrology/info.htmlTo UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology-....... May Jupiter's light shine on us ....... Get more from the Web. FREE MSN Explorer download : http://explorer.msn.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 23, 2002 Report Share Posted March 23, 2002 Sorry to butt in.But what would be the source of gain if 11th from AL is in Saggitarius with A6 therein & Jupiter placed in Libra. Saggitarius is further aspected by Sun(AK) & Moon(3rdL) by Rasi Drishti. Best Regards, Fayyaz Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 23, 2002 Report Share Posted March 23, 2002 Vyam Vysadevaya Namah -------- Dear Partha, Check 11th from Arudha Lagna to see where the native finds their gains. The 11th house will show which people favor the native, and hence the more friends one has, the more money can fall in your hands, however even the poor man on the street may have lots of equally poor friends.. hence Arudha Lagna is important. 10th from Moon will show the area of life the person is directed towards, and is important as well. Crux of Vedic Astrology by Sanjay Rath also puts alot of weight on this and more. To see what the person is working with, see Dasamsa Narayana Dasa. The Maha Dasa should be enough. Best wishes, Visti. --- partha sarathy <partvinu5 wrote: > Dear friends > > Below i have written a small article on profession > analysis. I have not covered the dasa analysis which > i hope to do some other day. The article is very > basic and points out the basic techniques. hope you > would not mind the long article. > > Profession analysis is one of the most interesting > aspects of jyotish. There are different parameters > and rules that need to be understood before > delineating the profession of a person. > The different techniques and tools may baffle any > youngster learning jyotish. If the young learner > takes a simple top down approach, he would get the > right answers. > The top down approach is to look at rasi chart, the > placements of different planets, nakshatras and > dispositors. > The second step in this approach is to look at the > navamsa chart and the planets therein. > The third step is to look at the dasamsa chart and > tally the results. Though dasamsa chart is very > vital in our analysis, the most important point here > is to remember that the dasamsa should confirm the > placements in the rasi chart and not create new > doubts. > The first and foremost step is to look at the > following houses and lords in the rasi chart. > These are 2nd, 6th, 7th, 10th and 11th. These are > very important houses to judge the horoscope for > profession. 2nd shows the acquisition of wealth and > reputation in profession, 6th the service, 7th > partners, 10th the profession, 11th the gains in > profession. > Stronger 6th house shows service, whereas the > stronger 7th house shows business. In most cases the > relation of 10th house or lord to Saturn creates > hurdles in business and thus the natives having such > dispositions are usually advised for service. Lagna > lord in 9th or 10th, 7th house strong, the Venus and > mercury signs being predominant in the chart lead > the native to go for business. But careful > assessment needs to be done before giving such a > ruling. > The nakshatras greatly modify the results. If we go > alone by aforesaid planets and their placements in > different houses we are making a mistake. We need to > look at the nakshatras-their positions and also the > subsequent nakshatra dispositors. > I would give example of the military nakshatras; > these are aswini, krittika, arudra, uttaraphalguni, > swati, jyeshtha, poorvashadha, uttarashadha, and > dhanistha. Now the aforesaid planets such as the > 10th lord, the 11th lord, 2nd lord, 6th lord in such > nakshatras coupled with the fact that the 3rd 6th > and 10th houses are very strong (also most of them > being fire signs) would give the native a job in the > military. > Let us take some sample charts and analyze the > profession of the concerned people. > The first chart is of the great psychoanalyst > Sigmund Freud. The master psychologist had a > chequered life and it would be interesting to see > the pointers to his career from the chart. > Freud, Sigmund > Natal Chart > May 6, 1856 > Time: 18:30:00 > Time Zone: 1:12:36 (East of GMT) > Longitude: 18 E 09' 00" > Latitude: 49 N 38' 00" > Altitude: 0.00 meters > > > Body Longitude Nakshatra Pada Rasi > Navamsa ChKarak > > Lagna 15 Li 39' 38.00" Swathi 3 Li > Aq - > Sun 24 Ar 28' 26.54" Bharani 4 Ar > Sc AmK > Moon 22 Ta 40' 24.46" Rohini 4 Ta > Cn BK > Mars ® 11 Vi 31' 05.02" Hastha 1 Vi > Ar MK > Mercury 5 Ta 56' 07.40" Krittika 3 Ta > Aq PK > Jupiter 7 Pi 43' 23.56" U.Bhaa. 2 Pi > Vi PiK > Venus 4 Ar 20' 47.98" Aswini 2 Ar > Ta DK > Saturn 5 Ge 42' 14.58" Mrigasira 4 Ge > Sc GK > Rahu 1 Ar 37' 00.08" Aswini 1 Ar > Ar AK > Ketu 1 Li 37' 00.08" Chitra 3 Li > Li - > Bhava Lagna 23 Sc 17' 00.22" Jyeshtha 2 Sc > Cp - > Hora Lagna 22 Ge 39' 19.20" Punarvasu 1 Ge > Ar - > Ghati Lagna 20 Pi 46' 16.14" Revathi 2 Pi > Cp - > > > > > Jupiter > GLVen, rahu, sunMerc, moonSat > HL > > RASIAL > > Ascendant > Ketumars > > Rahu > MarsVenusAL > > Ascendant > Mercury > > > NavamsaMoon > > > Saturn > Sun > > Ketu > > Jupiter > > > > Ascendant > Rahu > > Venus > GL > > Mercury > > DasamsaSaturn > > JupiterMars > Moon > > SUN > AL > Ketu > > > > Let us take a top down approach to the chart. > Rasi chart: here the lagna lord is Venus and he is > with exalted sun and also rahu. > The 10th lord moon is with 9th cum 12th lord mercury > and both are positioned in 8th house. Jupiter the > third cum 6th lord is in 6th house of diseases, > healing etc. The healing houses of the zodiac are > the signs Virgo and Pisces. Mars the 2nd lord is in > 12th in the nakshatra of hastha (moon lord). Moon is > the nakshatra lord of the 10th lord, 2nd lord that > suggests some mental work for Freud. The 11th house > from the Arudha lagna has moon and mercury > suggesting gains from mental work, like writing, > psychology etc. > ((Note: There is an unmistakable role of dusthanas > in the charts of doctors and healers.)) > In the navamsa chart, the 10th lord of rasi chart > moon is in its own navamsa and is 6th from the > navamsa lagna; Jupiter is in 8th from navamsa lagna. > 2nd lord mar is in his own navamsa and aspects > moon. Saturn rules diseases and he is in 10th house > from the navamsa chart with the Sun-the natural > karaka for life giver. > The dasamsa chart 5th and 10th houses are for > profession and 9th house is for boss. 9th house is > Scorpio and the lord mars is with moon in the 6th > house of service (Leo). Sun is in 10th house from > the dasamsa lagna showing very good reputation. Moon > is very important in the dasamsa chart also as he is > the 5th lord of profession and is with mars in 6th > house of service. Thus the role of psychology and > medicine is quite evident from the dasamsa chart. > Freud worked in a government hospital initially > before setting up his own clinic. This could be seen > from the 9th lord The AL is the dasamsa chart is > of Scorpio, which gave him fame in research > activities. He was known for going deep into the > secrets of the Human mind. > The conclusion is that moon is quite dominating in > the concerned rasi and divisional charts for Sigmund > Freud and his placement in the dusthanas has given > him a career in psychology and medicine. > > Case ii > Adolf Hitler > Hitler was one of the greatest personalities of the > twentieth === message truncated === Movies - coverage of the 74th Academy Awards® http://movies./ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 23, 2002 Report Share Posted March 23, 2002 Reference another mail of yours on the list ,indicating that a benefic in 8th from AL is a blessing,& shows those who support you secretly. 2.Therefore,is Sun(as AK & 4thL) in 8th from AL a benefic,showing secret support of Governmental/authority figures? Or does it mean something else? Best regards, Fayyaz Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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