Saturn key, & various karaks, Ref another Puzzle-Profession

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Dear friends

 

We need to raise our self-expectation standards - which can only come

thru greater introspection & not defence.

 

I hope each of u who tried the puzzle is doing this introspection, else

the purpose of posting the puzzle is sadly lost.

 

For my own education, I am attempting this puzzle in RETROSPECT, helped

by Arno's & others' insights.

 

THIS is how I now read the native's profession in retrospect:

 

As Arno clearly indicated, SATURN is the key profession-karak of this

chart (tho some mentioned in passing that St is strong, but did not

relate it directly as the key career-karak). Saturn is the final

dispositor of the chart, benefic in upachay 11 in own house, &

single-handedly dominates over all important career-related

significations (lords & houses), directly by conjunction or aspect

(except Sun/ Merc/ nodes, which have little role in career in this

chart).

 

This job primarily entails a patient thoroughness, with not missing a

single detail while reading or entering data - no other planet but

SATURN can do this. This quality alone determines his worth to this

organisation. Saturn clearly delineates his TYPE of work (& I am NOT

relating to his POST, which is seen from the STATE of the 10th lord, or

10 from AL as other's perception of his job). He is a data-entry

operator, & will be so in any field - which happens to be finance for

the last decade, it was so in a non-finance organisation before that, &

we dont know in which field it will be if/ when he leaves this finance

organisation.

 

While we have used L10 Jup above, we have ignored 10 itself= Sg

unoccupied & aspected only by Ra from 6 (I have no explanation of the

insignificance of the direct influence of Ra on 10 in this chart).

 

Workplace= A10= 12= Aq occupied by Ke (= computers, as we all know),

influenced mainly by the aspect of Ma, which is irrelevant as it is

deb.

 

So he does a patient, detailing job, to do with computers.

 

OTHER's perception of his work= 10 from AL= 6= Le occupied by Ra (???

significations), with no influencing aspects, & its lord Sun

(effectively deb, as deb in d-9 over-rides its exaltation in d-1) conj

Merc in 2. 2= Finance.

 

So he does a patient, detailing job, to do with computers in a finance

company.

 

Now, lets see his general field of employment. Source of Income= 11

from AL. This is Vi unoccupied, aspected by Ve L3/8 & Jp L1/10, with

its lord Merc in 2 conj (effectively deb) Sn L6. IF we could eliminate

some factors, we could arrive at 2= finance. We could also see

Employer= L9. 9 is completely uninfluenced. L9 is deb and is hence not

as important a significator as the Source of Income is.

 

His post= perceived status should be seen from 10 from AL. This is

unoccupied Le, aspected by Ra (shudra) & whose lord Sun is effectively

debilitated (low status).

 

So, .....

 

THIS is what i mean by atleast trying true introspection, even if in

retrospect. Tho I realsise that I have not explained so many of the

factors, & chosen ONE of the many factors for a particular aspect to

arrive at the answer. But that is JUST the point that I was trying to

get thru. How to single out the ONE factor of many. Shadbalas didnt

help, AV strength of houses didnt help, confirmations from d-10 didnt

help.

 

But am I getting thru?: that using specific rules for specific domains/

questions is inadequate, & I could give the above answer only after all

your inputs, which helped me to introspect on the chart much more

vividly.

 

However, I still dont understand why Jup which has got NBRY as per all

the astro-rules, is obviously not so in this chart. Also, any

explanations from d-10 have failed me.

 

Partha, please look at your 2 postings in detail again, see the logic

used & the answers. I dont wish to discuss this further with you, after

this mail. What u have done is inadequate for me. In summary:

 

In your first posting, from the arth trikon & education karaks, U have

arrived at finance/ law/ doctor. Then, from the various co-ordinates of

L10 Jp, u have arrived at "mental work, with hands". In your second

posting, u have eliminated the 2 other options to arrive at finance.

Neither the logic was sufficient for the answers u got in the 1st

posting, nor was the answer right. To me. If u r happy with that, so be

it. I truly want to introspect more.

 

Partha dear, I have no particular reason to belittle u or praise u. I

myself have no astro-reputation to protect either. In good faith, as u

HAVE astro-potential, I would desire you to learn more. Hence am taking

this time & effort out, at the risk of offending u. I cd have just

ignored any reference to you in this mail. But I DO want u to progress

further.

 

This is not about a game of throwing various darts, & getting a bull's

eye on the wrong dart-board. We MUST be able to, like Arjun, REPEATEDLY

throw arrows at the correct place. The trick is in the aiming, not the

dart-board; the dart board will keep changing.

 

If astrology was all about occupant, lord & aspects, & their

placements, we would have more astrologers than roaches in this planet.

Finding the essence of a chart, and thus determining which karak to

ignore & which not, is not the domain of shadbala & AV strength & other

formulae. It is about the relative influence of all planets, & thus

choosing the relevant criteria. Something which we should all

introspect & learn, from puzzles like this.

 

Else, we'll learn every technique in all the Nadis that the earth of

Mother India has hidden in her bowels, & yet not be able to read

charts. It is nice to pat oneself on the back, if the purpose is

protecting/ bolstering one's reputation. But if we keep doing that,

we'll never be able to introspect enough to dig out astrology's

essential secrets.

 

I sincerely hope u get the message. If not, this is my last attempt at

any sincere advise to you. The last, many months back, back fired

abdly. So if this also fails, I will learn my lesson definitively.

 

I wrote this to the List & not to you alone, as I do NOT want the List

to be complacent.

 

 

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Best wishes

 

Nandan

 

 

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