Guest guest Posted March 19, 2002 Report Share Posted March 19, 2002 Dear Sanjay..........Good to hear from you. The girl's birth time is 10:56 PM and the birth city is Vishakapatnam. Since, the time zone was not given in the SJVC software by Narasimha I looked up in the internet and got the given latitude and longitude (83 E 18 and 17 N 41). WHen I used the above time zone, lagna is meena but when I used the nearest city Machilipatnam, the lagna shifts to mesha. The girl is a beauty pageant winner and maybe this would help to rectify the time/lagna. regards Aravinda -- In vedic astrology, "Sanjay Rath" <srath@v...> wrote: > > om gurave namah > ------------------------ > Dear Aru > There is Sankranti Dosha and Tithi (Chaturdasi) dosha indicating that the > present birth to serve the grave errors done against Shiva or father in past > birth. Remedies are given in my book. The time seems to have been corrected. > What is the recorded time? > The attached chart has a vague time zone. Confirm that the Lagna is Mesha > for further reading. > With best wishes > Sanjay Rath > Web: http://sanjayrath.tripod.com > Services: http://sanjayrath.tripod.com/zservices.htm > Jyotish Digest: http://jyotishdigest.com/ > SJVC: http://www.sjvc.org/ > - > "Aravinda Dulla" <aru_dulla> > <vedic astrology> > Tuesday, March 19, 2002 8:52 AM > [vedic astrology] Help needed > > > Dear Astrologers..........attached is the chart of a > girl who has cancer. As of now she is undergoing > chemotherapy and looks fine. But, the doctors can't > say the same about the future. She is also suffering > from numerous ailments. Is she going to survive this > debilitating disease? How does her future look in > terms of education and marriage? Please advise of > rememdies if any. > > Birth data > DOB: August 17, 1982 > TOB: 10:56:59 PM > POB: Vishakapatnam (17 N 41) > (83 E 18) > > regards > Aru > > > > > Sports - live college hoops coverage > http://sports./ > > > > > > To UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology-@e... > > ....... May Jupiter's light shine on us ....... > > > > Your use of is subject to Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 20, 2002 Report Share Posted March 20, 2002 Dear Sanjay...........which chart is more appropriate to check for diseases like cancer? Trimsamsa or Shashtamsa? I remember reading a post by Narasimha that trimsamsa is more appropriate. regards Aru -- In vedic astrology, "aru_dulla" <aru_dulla> wrote: > Dear Sanjay..........Good to hear from you. The girl's birth time is > 10:56 PM and the birth city is Vishakapatnam. Since, the time zone > was not given in the SJVC software by Narasimha I looked up in the > internet and got the given latitude and longitude (83 E 18 and 17 N > 41). WHen I used the above time zone, lagna is meena but when I used > the nearest city Machilipatnam, the lagna shifts to mesha. The girl > is a beauty pageant winner and maybe this would help to rectify the > time/lagna. > > regards > Aravinda > > > -- In vedic astrology, "Sanjay Rath" <srath@v...> wrote: > > > > om gurave namah > > ------------------------ > > Dear Aru > > There is Sankranti Dosha and Tithi (Chaturdasi) dosha indicating > that the > > present birth to serve the grave errors done against Shiva or > father in past > > birth. Remedies are given in my book. The time seems to have been > corrected. > > What is the recorded time? > > The attached chart has a vague time zone. Confirm that the Lagna is > Mesha > > for further reading. > > With best wishes > > Sanjay Rath > > Web: http://sanjayrath.tripod.com > > Services: http://sanjayrath.tripod.com/zservices.htm > > Jyotish Digest: http://jyotishdigest.com/ > > SJVC: http://www.sjvc.org/ > > - > > "Aravinda Dulla" <aru_dulla> > > <vedic astrology> > > Tuesday, March 19, 2002 8:52 AM > > [vedic astrology] Help needed > > > > > > Dear Astrologers..........attached is the chart of a > > girl who has cancer. As of now she is undergoing > > chemotherapy and looks fine. But, the doctors can't > > say the same about the future. She is also suffering > > from numerous ailments. Is she going to survive this > > debilitating disease? How does her future look in > > terms of education and marriage? Please advise of > > rememdies if any. > > > > Birth data > > DOB: August 17, 1982 > > TOB: 10:56:59 PM > > POB: Vishakapatnam (17 N 41) > > (83 E 18) > > > > regards > > Aru > > > > > > > > > > Sports - live college hoops coverage > > http://sports./ > > > > > > > > > > > > To UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology-@e... > > > > ....... May Jupiter's light shine on us ....... > > > > > > > > Your use of is subject to > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 20, 2002 Report Share Posted March 20, 2002 om gurave namah ------------------------ Dear Aravinda I am not talking about the lat & long. That is OK and Jagannath Hora does have Vishakapatnam in the Atlas. Narasimha seems to have added even the names of tiny villages in Andhra Pradesh. It is the largest database of lat & long for India. The TIME ZONE you are using is of another nation and not India. india should be 5.30 East of GMT. The Lagna comes to 21 deg in Mesha and not borderline. Please answer if the time has been corrected and by whom. With best wishes Sanjay Rath Web: http://sanjayrath.tripod.com Services: http://sanjayrath.tripod.com/zservices.htm Jyotish Digest: http://jyotishdigest.com/ SJVC: http://www.sjvc.org/ - "aru_dulla" <aru_dulla <vedic astrology> Tuesday, March 19, 2002 9:12 PM [vedic astrology] Re: Help needed-Girl with cancer Dear Sanjay..........Good to hear from you. The girl's birth time is 10:56 PM and the birth city is Vishakapatnam. Since, the time zone was not given in the SJVC software by Narasimha I looked up in the internet and got the given latitude and longitude (83 E 18 and 17 N 41). WHen I used the above time zone, lagna is meena but when I used the nearest city Machilipatnam, the lagna shifts to mesha. The girl is a beauty pageant winner and maybe this would help to rectify the time/lagna. regards Aravinda -- In vedic astrology, "Sanjay Rath" <srath@v...> wrote: > > om gurave namah > ------------------------ > Dear Aru > There is Sankranti Dosha and Tithi (Chaturdasi) dosha indicating that the > present birth to serve the grave errors done against Shiva or father in past > birth. Remedies are given in my book. The time seems to have been corrected. > What is the recorded time? > The attached chart has a vague time zone. Confirm that the Lagna is Mesha > for further reading. > With best wishes > Sanjay Rath > Web: http://sanjayrath.tripod.com > Services: http://sanjayrath.tripod.com/zservices.htm > Jyotish Digest: http://jyotishdigest.com/ > SJVC: http://www.sjvc.org/ > - > "Aravinda Dulla" <aru_dulla> > <vedic astrology> > Tuesday, March 19, 2002 8:52 AM > [vedic astrology] Help needed > > > Dear Astrologers..........attached is the chart of a > girl who has cancer. As of now she is undergoing > chemotherapy and looks fine. But, the doctors can't > say the same about the future. She is also suffering > from numerous ailments. Is she going to survive this > debilitating disease? How does her future look in > terms of education and marriage? Please advise of > rememdies if any. > > Birth data > DOB: August 17, 1982 > TOB: 10:56:59 PM > POB: Vishakapatnam (17 N 41) > (83 E 18) > > regards > Aru > > > > > Sports - live college hoops coverage > http://sports./ > > > > > > To UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology-@e... > > ....... May Jupiter's light shine on us ....... > > > > Your use of is subject to Your use of is subject to Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 20, 2002 Report Share Posted March 20, 2002 Dear Sanjay.......the was not corrected by anyone. The time is indeed given by the girl herself and correct. (Maybe I'll check up the time again if you want me to) Unfortunately, I don't have the updated software by Narasimha; I have the old version. regards Aru vedic astrology, "Sanjay Rath" <srath@v...> wrote: > om gurave namah > ------------------------ > Dear Aravinda > I am not talking about the lat & long. That is OK and Jagannath Hora does > have Vishakapatnam in the Atlas. Narasimha seems to have added even the > names of tiny villages in Andhra Pradesh. It is the largest database of lat > & long for India. The TIME ZONE you are using is of another nation and not > India. india should be 5.30 East of GMT. The Lagna comes to 21 deg in Mesha > and not borderline. Please answer if the time has been corrected and by > whom. > With best wishes > Sanjay Rath > Web: http://sanjayrath.tripod.com > Services: http://sanjayrath.tripod.com/zservices.htm > Jyotish Digest: http://jyotishdigest.com/ > SJVC: http://www.sjvc.org/ > - > "aru_dulla" <aru_dulla> > <vedic astrology> > Tuesday, March 19, 2002 9:12 PM > [vedic astrology] Re: Help needed-Girl with cancer > > > Dear Sanjay..........Good to hear from you. The girl's birth time is > 10:56 PM and the birth city is Vishakapatnam. Since, the time zone > was not given in the SJVC software by Narasimha I looked up in the > internet and got the given latitude and longitude (83 E 18 and 17 N > 41). WHen I used the above time zone, lagna is meena but when I used > the nearest city Machilipatnam, the lagna shifts to mesha. The girl > is a beauty pageant winner and maybe this would help to rectify the > time/lagna. > > regards > Aravinda > > > -- In vedic astrology, "Sanjay Rath" <srath@v...> wrote: > > > > om gurave namah > > ------------------------ > > Dear Aru > > There is Sankranti Dosha and Tithi (Chaturdasi) dosha indicating > that the > > present birth to serve the grave errors done against Shiva or > father in past > > birth. Remedies are given in my book. The time seems to have been > corrected. > > What is the recorded time? > > The attached chart has a vague time zone. Confirm that the Lagna is > Mesha > > for further reading. > > With best wishes > > Sanjay Rath > > Web: http://sanjayrath.tripod.com > > Services: http://sanjayrath.tripod.com/zservices.htm > > Jyotish Digest: http://jyotishdigest.com/ > > SJVC: http://www.sjvc.org/ > > - > > "Aravinda Dulla" <aru_dulla> > > <vedic astrology> > > Tuesday, March 19, 2002 8:52 AM > > [vedic astrology] Help needed > > > > > > Dear Astrologers..........attached is the chart of a > > girl who has cancer. As of now she is undergoing > > chemotherapy and looks fine. But, the doctors can't > > say the same about the future. She is also suffering > > from numerous ailments. Is she going to survive this > > debilitating disease? How does her future look in > > terms of education and marriage? Please advise of > > rememdies if any. > > > > Birth data > > DOB: August 17, 1982 > > TOB: 10:56:59 PM > > POB: Vishakapatnam (17 N 41) > > (83 E 18) > > > > regards > > Aru > > > > > > > > > > Sports - live college hoops coverage > > http://sports./ > > > > > > > > > > > > To UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology-@e... > > > > ....... May Jupiter's light shine on us ....... > > > > > > > > Your use of is subject to > > > > > > > > > To UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology-@e... > > ....... May Jupiter's light shine on us ....... > > > > Your use of is subject to Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 21, 2002 Report Share Posted March 21, 2002 om gurave namah------------------------Dear Aru This is what I get and is definitely a wrong chart.CancerNatal Chart August 17, 1982Time: 22:56:59Time Zone: 5:30:00 (East of GMT)Longitude: 83 E 18' 00"Latitude: 17 N 42' 00"Altitude: 0.00 metersLunar Year: DundubhiLunar Month: SravanaTithi: Krishna Chaturdasi (58.90% left)Weekday: TuesdayNakshatra: Pushyami (36.52% left)Yoga: VyatipataKarana: VishtiHora Lord: MercurySunrise: 5:39:42Sunset: 18:21:13Janma Ghatis: 43.2204Body Longitude Nakshatra Pada Rasi Navamsa ChKarakLagna 25 Ar 25' 17.56" Bharani 4 Ar Sc -Sun 0 Le 51' 58.44" Makha 1 Le Ar DKMoon 11 Cn 47' 52.33" Pushyami 3 Cn Li PiKMars 14 Li 47' 46.94" Swathi 3 Li Aq BKMercury 21 Le 37' 28.73" Poo.Pha. 3 Le Li AmKJupiter 10 Li 26' 24.53" Swathi 2 Li Cp PKVenus 10 Cn 23' 04.22" Pushyami 3 Cn Li GKSaturn 24 Vi 43' 06.97" Chitra 1 Vi Le AKRahu 17 Ge 27' 47.47" Aardra 4 Ge Pi MKKetu 17 Sg 27' 47.47" Poo.Shaa. 2 Sg Vi -Bhava Lagna 19 Ar 29' 45.57" Bharani 2 Ar Vi -Hora Lagna 8 Cp 49' 07.13" U.Shaa. 4 Cp Pi -Ghati Lagna 6 Pi 47' 11.80" U.Bhaa. 2 Pi Vi -Vighati Lagna 26 Sg 37' 35.18" Poo.Shaa. 4 Sg Sc -Pranapada Lagna 27 Le 19' 09.61" U.Pha. 1 Le Sg -Sree Lagna 13 Sg 57' 50.48" Poo.Shaa. 1 Sg Le -Indu Lagna 11 Aq 47' 52.33" Satabhisham 2 Aq Cp -Kunda 19 Sg 08' 42.35" Poo.Shaa. 2 Sg Vi -Dhooma 14 Sg 11' 58.44" Poo.Shaa. 1 Sg Le -Vyatipata 15 Cn 48' 01.56" Pushyami 4 Cn Sc -Parivesha 15 Cp 48' 01.56" Sravanam 2 Cp Ta -Indra Chapa 14 Ge 11' 58.44" Aardra 3 Ge Aq -Upaketu 0 Cn 51' 58.44" Punarvasu 4 Cn Cn -Kaala 7 Ar 09' 52.13" Aswini 3 Ar Ge -Mrityu 22 Ta 38' 21.13" Rohini 4 Ta Cn -Artha Prahara 12 Ge 24' 16.36" Aardra 2 Ge Cp -Yama Ghantaka 1 Cn 26' 39.23" Punarvasu 4 Cn Cn -Maandi 14 Aq 15' 34.22" Satabhisham 3 Aq Aq -Gulika 1 Aq 30' 49.51" Dhanishtha 3 Aq Li -Prana Sphuta 8 Ge 37' 17.31" Aardra 1 Ge Sg -Deha Sphuta 5 Ta 53' 48.16" Krittika 3 Ta Aq -Mrityu Sphuta 11 Ge 27' 45.04" Aardra 2 Ge Cp -Trisphuta 25 Vi 58' 50.51" Chitra 1 Vi Le -Varnada Lagna 25 Ta 45' 35.31" Mrigasira 1 Ta Le -V2 4 Ar 14' 24.69" Aswini 2 Ar Ta -V3 4 Ge 14' 24.69" Mrigasira 4 Ge Sc -V4 4 Le 14' 24.69" Makha 2 Le Ta - Rasi +--------------+| \ / \ / || \ / \ GL / || \ / \ / || \ / \ / || \ / \ / ||Rah x Asc x Glk Mnd || / \ / \ || / \ / \ || / \ / \ || / Ven \ 1 / AL \ || / \ / \ || Moo x HL || \ / \ / || \ / \ / || \ / \ / || \ / Jup \ / || \ / \ / ||Sun Mer x Mar x Ket || / \ / \ || / \ / \ || / \ / \ || / Sat \ / \ || / \ / \ |+--------------+ Navamsa +--------------+| \ / \ Mer Ven / || \ / \ Moo / || \ / \ Glk / || \ / \ / || \ / \ / ||Jup x Asc x GL Ket || / \ / \ || / \ / \ || / \ / \ || / Mnd \ 8 / \ || / \ / \ || Mar x Sat || \ / \ / || \ AL / \ / || \ / \ / || \ / \ / || \ / \ / ||Rah HL x x || / \ / \ || / \ / \ || / \ / \ || / Sun \ / \ || / \ / \ |+--------------+ Vimsottari Dasa (started from Moon):Sat Sat 1970-07-25 Mer 1973-07-28 Ket 1976-04-03 Ven 1977-05-14 Sun 1980-07-15 Moo 1981-06-27 Mar 1983-01-25 Rah 1984-03-04 Jup 1987-01-11 Mer Mer 1989-07-25 Ket 1991-12-21 Ven 1992-12-18 Sun 1995-10-20 Moo 1996-08-25 Mar 1998-01-22 Rah 1999-01-20 Jup 2001-08-10 Sat 2003-11-16 Ket Ket 2006-07-25 Ven 2006-12-21 Sun 2008-02-19 Moo 2008-06-27 Mar 2009-01-25 Rah 2009-06-24 Jup 2010-07-13 Sat 2011-06-18 Mer 2012-07-28 Ven Ven 2013-07-25 Sun 2016-11-24 Moo 2017-11-24 With best wishesSanjay RathWeb: http://sanjayrath.tripod.comServices: http://sanjayrath.tripod.com/zservices.htmJyotish Digest: http://jyotishdigest.com/SJVC: http://www.sjvc.org/ - "aru_dulla" <aru_dulla > <vedic astrology> Thursday, March 21, 2002 12:51 AM [vedic astrology] Re: Help needed-Girl with cancer Dear Sanjay.......the was not corrected by anyone. The time is indeed given by the girl herself and correct. (Maybe I'll check up the time again if you want me to) Unfortunately, I don't have the updated software by Narasimha; I have the old version.regardsAruvedic astrology, "Sanjay Rath" <srath@v...> wrote:> om gurave namah> ------------------------> Dear Aravinda> I am not talking about the lat & long. That is OK and Jagannath Hora does> have Vishakapatnam in the Atlas. Narasimha seems to have added even the> names of tiny villages in Andhra Pradesh. It is the largest database of lat> & long for India. The TIME ZONE you are using is of another nation and not> India. india should be 5.30 East of GMT. The Lagna comes to 21 deg in Mesha> and not borderline. Please answer if the time has been corrected and by> whom.> With best wishes> Sanjay Rath> Web: http://sanjayrath.tripod.com> Services: http://sanjayrath.tripod.com/zservices.htm> Jyotish Digest: http://jyotishdigest.com/> SJVC: http://www.sjvc.org/> ----- Original Message -----> "aru_dulla" <aru_dulla>> <vedic astrology>> Sent: Tuesday, March 19, 2002 9:12 PM> [vedic astrology] Re: Help needed-Girl with cancer> > > Dear Sanjay..........Good to hear from you. The girl's birth time is> 10:56 PM and the birth city is Vishakapatnam. Since, the time zone> was not given in the SJVC software by Narasimha I looked up in the> internet and got the given latitude and longitude (83 E 18 and 17 N> 41). WHen I used the above time zone, lagna is meena but when I used> the nearest city Machilipatnam, the lagna shifts to mesha. The girl> is a beauty pageant winner and maybe this would help to rectify the> time/lagna.> > regards> Aravinda> > > -- In vedic astrology, "Sanjay Rath" <srath@v...> wrote:> >> > om gurave namah> > ------------------------> > Dear Aru> > There is Sankranti Dosha and Tithi (Chaturdasi) dosha indicating> that the> > present birth to serve the grave errors done against Shiva or> father in past> > birth. Remedies are given in my book. The time seems to have been> corrected.> > What is the recorded time?> > The attached chart has a vague time zone. Confirm that the Lagna is> Mesha> > for further reading.> > With best wishes> > Sanjay Rath> > Web: http://sanjayrath.tripod.com> > Services: http://sanjayrath.tripod.com/zservices.htm> > Jyotish Digest: http://jyotishdigest.com/> > SJVC: http://www.sjvc.org/> > ----- Original Message -----> > "Aravinda Dulla" <aru_dulla>> > To: <vedic astrology>> > Tuesday, March 19, 2002 8:52 AM> > Subject: [vedic astrology] Help needed> >> >> > Dear Astrologers..........attached is the chart of a> > girl who has cancer. As of now she is undergoing> > chemotherapy and looks fine. But, the doctors can't> > say the same about the future. She is also suffering> > from numerous ailments. Is she going to survive this> > debilitating disease? How does her future look in> > terms of education and marriage? Please advise of> > rememdies if any.> >> > Birth data> > DOB: August 17, 1982> > TOB: 10:56:59 PM> > POB: Vishakapatnam (17 N 41)> > (83 E 18)> >> > regards> > Aru> >> >> > > > > > Sports - live college hoops coverage> > http://sports./> >> > Archives: vedic astrology> >> > Group info: vedic astrology/info.html> >> > To UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology-@e...> >> > ....... May Jupiter's light shine on us .......> >> > || Om Tat Sat || Sarvam Sri Krishnaarpanamastu ||> >> > Your use of is subject to> > > > > Archives: vedic astrology> > Group info: vedic astrology/info.html> > To UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology-@e...> > ....... May Jupiter's light shine on us .......> > > > Your use of is subject to ------------------------ Sponsor ---------------------~-->FREE COLLEGE MONEYCLICK HERE to search600,000 scholarships!http://us.click./iZp8OC/4m7CAA/ySSFAA/.8XolB/TM---~->Archives: vedic astrologyGroup info: vedic astrology/info.htmlTo UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology-....... May Jupiter's light shine on us ....... Your use of is subject to Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 21, 2002 Report Share Posted March 21, 2002 om gurave namah ------------------------ Dear Aru Both are as there is suffering involved and a lot of evil. trimsamsa is recommended by Parasara and is at a higher level of consciousness whereas the Shastamsa is the manifestation at the physical level. In fact the Kauluka are the key to pointing out the specific graha involved and who needs propitiation. With best wishes Sanjay Rath Web: http://sanjayrath.tripod.com Services: http://sanjayrath.tripod.com/zservices.htm Jyotish Digest: http://jyotishdigest.com/ SJVC: http://www.sjvc.org/ - "aru_dulla" <aru_dulla <vedic astrology> Thursday, March 21, 2002 12:13 AM [vedic astrology] Re: Help needed-Girl with cancer Dear Sanjay...........which chart is more appropriate to check for diseases like cancer? Trimsamsa or Shashtamsa? I remember reading a post by Narasimha that trimsamsa is more appropriate. regards Aru -- In vedic astrology, "aru_dulla" <aru_dulla> wrote: > Dear Sanjay..........Good to hear from you. The girl's birth time is > 10:56 PM and the birth city is Vishakapatnam. Since, the time zone > was not given in the SJVC software by Narasimha I looked up in the > internet and got the given latitude and longitude (83 E 18 and 17 N > 41). WHen I used the above time zone, lagna is meena but when I used > the nearest city Machilipatnam, the lagna shifts to mesha. The girl > is a beauty pageant winner and maybe this would help to rectify the > time/lagna. > > regards > Aravinda > > > -- In vedic astrology, "Sanjay Rath" <srath@v...> wrote: > > > > om gurave namah > > ------------------------ > > Dear Aru > > There is Sankranti Dosha and Tithi (Chaturdasi) dosha indicating > that the > > present birth to serve the grave errors done against Shiva or > father in past > > birth. Remedies are given in my book. The time seems to have been > corrected. > > What is the recorded time? > > The attached chart has a vague time zone. Confirm that the Lagna is > Mesha > > for further reading. > > With best wishes > > Sanjay Rath > > Web: http://sanjayrath.tripod.com > > Services: http://sanjayrath.tripod.com/zservices.htm > > Jyotish Digest: http://jyotishdigest.com/ > > SJVC: http://www.sjvc.org/ > > - > > "Aravinda Dulla" <aru_dulla> > > <vedic astrology> > > Tuesday, March 19, 2002 8:52 AM > > [vedic astrology] Help needed > > > > > > Dear Astrologers..........attached is the chart of a > > girl who has cancer. As of now she is undergoing > > chemotherapy and looks fine. But, the doctors can't > > say the same about the future. She is also suffering > > from numerous ailments. Is she going to survive this > > debilitating disease? How does her future look in > > terms of education and marriage? Please advise of > > rememdies if any. > > > > Birth data > > DOB: August 17, 1982 > > TOB: 10:56:59 PM > > POB: Vishakapatnam (17 N 41) > > (83 E 18) > > > > regards > > Aru > > > > > > > > > > Sports - live college hoops coverage > > http://sports./ > > > > > > > > > > > > To UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology-@e... > > > > ....... May Jupiter's light shine on us ....... > > > > > > > > Your use of is subject to > Your use of is subject to Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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