Guest guest Posted March 7, 2002 Report Share Posted March 7, 2002 Dear Gurus & friends Still plodding thru Lakshmanan's book. Excellent book. Entire bk= his practical experience, & he was/is a famous astrologer & prolific contributor to Dr Raman's AM. Each para of the book is explained by an actual chart. Now, quoting Kapila Nadi, he talks of combustion of Ve being negated if a) its dispositor, aspects etc are VERY strong & beneficial, or b) in Aq, as watery planet in watery sign (Aq= pot= water!) where fiery Sun is too impotent to combust. And that, while combust Ve's participation in yogs is thus guaranteed by such negation, it still wd affect the relative signified (eg combust Ve as L9= father's ill-health) For the record, we in SJVC believe that Ve is combust only when conj Sun & Retro. But what I was getting at was: a) does anyone have Kapila Nadi & could actually get us the specific reference (I understand there is no Eng translation: Lakshmanan has referenced Kapila Nadi many times in the book), or b) does anyone have a clue from any toher text about the mystery of negation of combustion for Ve or any other planet, esp with this cryptic Aq= pot= water. ===== Best wishes Nandan ______________________ Looking for a job? Visit India Careers Visit http://in.careers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 8, 2002 Report Share Posted March 8, 2002 Dear Nandan, Please give page number for this exception for Ve in Aq. I started re-reding this book yesterday. Thanks Shiv Chadha - Nandan Chakraborty vedic astrology Friday, March 08, 2002 1:10 PM [vedic astrology] Negation of Combustion!!!- Kapila Nadi Dear Gurus & friendsStill plodding thru Lakshmanan's book. Excellent book. Entire bk= hispractical experience, & he was/is a famous astrologer & prolificcontributor to Dr Raman's AM. Each para of the book is explained by anactual chart. Now, quoting Kapila Nadi, he talks of combustion of Ve being negated ifa) its dispositor, aspects etc are VERY strong & beneficial, or b) inAq, as watery planet in watery sign (Aq= pot= water!) where fiery Sunis too impotent to combust. And that, while combust Ve's participationin yogs is thus guaranteed by such negation, it still wd affect therelative signified (eg combust Ve as L9= father's ill-health)For the record, we in SJVC believe that Ve is combust only when conjSun & Retro. But what I was getting at was: a) does anyone have KapilaNadi & could actually get us the specific reference (I understand thereis no Eng translation: Lakshmanan has referenced Kapila Nadi many timesin the book), or b) does anyone have a clue from any toher text aboutthe mystery of negation of combustion for Ve or any other planet, espwith this cryptic Aq= pot= water.=====Best wishesNandan______________________Looking for a job? Visit India Careers Visit http://in.careers.Archives: vedic astrologyGroup info: vedic astrology/info.htmlTo UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology-....... May Jupiter's light shine on us ....... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 8, 2002 Report Share Posted March 8, 2002 page 48 of 2nd half of 420 pg book. Note the book is in 2 parts: pgs 1-191 is 1st part on Lagna Vichar. Then 2nd part= his essays on various yogas, & on certain planets, again starts as pg 1 upto pg 229. Note in my copy, the 2nd part starts physically bound as pgs 73-80, then starts 1, & after 72, jumps to 81, basically a binding error. --- Shiv Chadha <manoramaoccult wrote: > Dear Nandan, > > Please give page number for this exception for Ve in Aq. I started > re-reding this book yesterday. > > Thanks > Shiv Chadha > - > Nandan Chakraborty > vedic astrology > Friday, March 08, 2002 1:10 PM > [vedic astrology] Negation of Combustion!!!- Kapila Nadi > > > Dear Gurus & friends > > Still plodding thru Lakshmanan's book. Excellent book. Entire bk= > his > practical experience, & he was/is a famous astrologer & prolific > contributor to Dr Raman's AM. Each para of the book is explained by > an > actual chart. > > Now, quoting Kapila Nadi, he talks of combustion of Ve being > negated if > a) its dispositor, aspects etc are VERY strong & beneficial, or b) > in > Aq, as watery planet in watery sign (Aq= pot= water!) where fiery > Sun > is too impotent to combust. And that, while combust Ve's > participation > in yogs is thus guaranteed by such negation, it still wd affect the > relative signified (eg combust Ve as L9= father's ill-health) > > For the record, we in SJVC believe that Ve is combust only when > conj > Sun & Retro. But what I was getting at was: a) does anyone have > Kapila > Nadi & could actually get us the specific reference (I understand > there > is no Eng translation: Lakshmanan has referenced Kapila Nadi many > times > in the book), or b) does anyone have a clue from any toher text > about > the mystery of negation of combustion for Ve or any other planet, > esp > with this cryptic Aq= pot= water. > > ===== > > Best wishes > > Nandan > > > > ______________________ > Looking for a job? Visit India Careers > Visit http://in.careers. > > Sponsor > > > > > > > > > > To UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to > vedic astrology- > > ....... May Jupiter's light shine on us ....... > > > > Terms of > Service. > > ===== Best wishes Nandan ______________________ Looking for a job? Visit India Careers Visit http://in.careers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 8, 2002 Report Share Posted March 8, 2002 Hare Rama Krishna ------------------- Dear Nandan Babu, Will you please let me know the title and the address of publisher of the book by Lakshmanan? With regards Dilip Banerjee. - Nandan Chakraborty vedic astrology Thursday, March 07, 2002 11:40 PM [vedic astrology] Negation of Combustion!!!- Kapila Nadi Dear Gurus & friendsStill plodding thru Lakshmanan's book. Excellent book. Entire bk= hispractical experience, & he was/is a famous astrologer & prolificcontributor to Dr Raman's AM. Each para of the book is explained by anactual chart. Now, quoting Kapila Nadi, he talks of combustion of Ve being negated ifa) its dispositor, aspects etc are VERY strong & beneficial, or b) inAq, as watery planet in watery sign (Aq= pot= water!) where fiery Sunis too impotent to combust. And that, while combust Ve's participationin yogs is thus guaranteed by such negation, it still wd affect therelative signified (eg combust Ve as L9= father's ill-health)For the record, we in SJVC believe that Ve is combust only when conjSun & Retro. But what I was getting at was: a) does anyone have KapilaNadi & could actually get us the specific reference (I understand thereis no Eng translation: Lakshmanan has referenced Kapila Nadi many timesin the book), or b) does anyone have a clue from any toher text aboutthe mystery of negation of combustion for Ve or any other planet, espwith this cryptic Aq= pot= water.=====Best wishesNandan______________________Looking for a job? Visit India Careers Visit http://in.careers.Archives: vedic astrologyGroup info: vedic astrology/info.htmlTo UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology-....... May Jupiter's light shine on us ....... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 9, 2002 Report Share Posted March 9, 2002 Vyam Vysadevaya Namah ------------------ Dear Nandan, You wrote: For the record, we in SJVC believe that Ve is combust only when conj Sun & Retro. Visti: This combustion belief has nothing todo with faith, but is an astronomical fact. As for this theory of negation of combustion through the aspect of other grahas, or placement in Aqua, this doesn't sound like anything astronomical, and hence has little todo with combustion. Best wishes, Visti. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 9, 2002 Report Share Posted March 9, 2002 Publisher was the author himself and after his death few copies are available from www.vedicweb.com/Manorama.htm manoramaoccult (AT) hotmail (DOT) com - Dr.D.Banerjee vedic astrology Saturday, March 09, 2002 3:53 AM Re: [vedic astrology] Negation of Combustion!!!- Kapila Nadi Hare Rama Krishna ------------------- Dear Nandan Babu, Will you please let me know the title and the address of publisher of the book by Lakshmanan? With regards Dilip Banerjee. - Nandan Chakraborty vedic astrology Thursday, March 07, 2002 11:40 PM [vedic astrology] Negation of Combustion!!!- Kapila Nadi Dear Gurus & friendsStill plodding thru Lakshmanan's book. Excellent book. Entire bk= hispractical experience, & he was/is a famous astrologer & prolificcontributor to Dr Raman's AM. Each para of the book is explained by anactual chart. Now, quoting Kapila Nadi, he talks of combustion of Ve being negated ifa) its dispositor, aspects etc are VERY strong & beneficial, or b) inAq, as watery planet in watery sign (Aq= pot= water!) where fiery Sunis too impotent to combust. And that, while combust Ve's participationin yogs is thus guaranteed by such negation, it still wd affect therelative signified (eg combust Ve as L9= father's ill-health)For the record, we in SJVC believe that Ve is combust only when conjSun & Retro. But what I was getting at was: a) does anyone have KapilaNadi & could actually get us the specific reference (I understand thereis no Eng translation: Lakshmanan has referenced Kapila Nadi many timesin the book), or b) does anyone have a clue from any toher text aboutthe mystery of negation of combustion for Ve or any other planet, espwith this cryptic Aq= pot= water.=====Best wishesNandan______________________Looking for a job? Visit India Careers Visit http://in.careers.Archives: vedic astrologyGroup info: vedic astrology/info.htmlTo UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology-....... May Jupiter's light shine on us ....... Archives: vedic astrologyGroup info: vedic astrology/info.htmlTo UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology-....... May Jupiter's light shine on us ....... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 9, 2002 Report Share Posted March 9, 2002 "IFor the record, we in SJVC believe that Ve is combust only when conj Sun & Retro." In respect to those you believe that Venus is combust only when retrograde: First lets look at the planets outside the Earth's orbit, Mars, Jupiter and Saturn. THey are retrograde when the Earth is between the Sun and the planet, around when they are opposite in the horoscope. At this point the planet is as close to the Earth as it will get and its deeptaadi avastha is Shakti- powerful. WHen the planet is furthes from the Earth is is behind the SUn and combust, its Avastha is Kopa- angry. Similarly with the planets inside the Earth's orbit, Mercury and Venus. The are closest to the Earth when they are retrograde, at that point they are between the Sun and the Earth, at that point thier avastha is Shakti- powerful. When they are behind the Sun they are furthest from the Earth and combust and thier avastha is Kopa, angry. Now most people consider Mercury and Venus to become combust anytime they are closest to the Sun, but when they are retrograde the are in front of the SUn, so the Sun does not block the planet from the Earths view, though it is impossible to see since the bright Sun is in the background. The Sanskrit word for combust is actuall a better word- Asta, which means setting. So a combust planet should actually be setting behind the Sun, that is why it is weak. This only happens when Mercury and Venus are not retrograde. A retrograde is strong, that is why its avastha is Shakti. It is quite likely that whoever wrote "IFor the record, we in SJVC believe that Ve is combust only when conj Sun & Retro." May have made a mistake in what the were trying to say, since if VE is only to be considered combust at one conjuction it is when it is not retrograde that this can happen. Best Regards,Ernst Wilhelmwww.vedic astrology.netKala Vedic Astrology Software & Kala Occult Publishers - Visti Larsen vedic astrology Saturday, March 09, 2002 3:18 AM Re: [vedic astrology] Negation of Combustion!!!- Kapila Nadi Vyam Vysadevaya Namah ------------------ Dear Nandan, You wrote: For the record, we in SJVC believe that Ve is combust only when conj Sun & Retro. Visti: This combustion belief has nothing todo with faith, but is an astronomical fact. As for this theory of negation of combustion through the aspect of other grahas, or placement in Aqua, this doesn't sound like anything astronomical, and hence has little todo with combustion. Best wishes, Visti.Archives: vedic astrologyGroup info: vedic astrology/info.htmlTo UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology-....... May Jupiter's light shine on us .......|| Om Tat Sat || Sarvam Sri Krishnaarpanamastu || Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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