Guest guest Posted March 5, 2002 Report Share Posted March 5, 2002 OM GANESHAYA NAMAH !!! Dear Visti -- Can Rahu be taken as atmakaraka ?? Regards, -- Jai OM GANESHAYA NAMAH !!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 9, 2002 Report Share Posted March 9, 2002 Vyam Vysadevaya Namah ------------------- Dear Jai, There are 8 Chara Karakas(7 Sthira & 9 Naisargika). The 8th is either Rahu or Ketu. Which one is it, and why? To understand the Chara Karakas, you must study the very base of hinduism; the Astadala Padma. Draw your conclussion from there. Eagerly awaiting your reply. Best wishes, Visti. --- Jai <shashankastro wrote: > OM GANESHAYA NAMAH !!! > > Dear Visti -- > > Can Rahu be taken as atmakaraka ?? > > Regards, > -- Jai > > OM GANESHAYA NAMAH !!! > Try FREE Mail - the world's greatest free email! / Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 9, 2002 Report Share Posted March 9, 2002 OM GANESHAYA NAMAH !!! Dear Visti, 1. The naisargika or natural karakas are the same as the Parashari karakas (am quite confident with parashar methodology but jaimini .......oops .......long way to go). 2. The sthira (static) karakas are the stronger between sun and venus for father, stronger between moon and mars for mother, mars for brother, siblings, mercury for maternal uncle/aunt, jupiter for grandfather, venus for husband, saturn for children and ketu for wife and parents-in-law. 3. The chara (dynamic) karakas: "Atmadhikaha kaladibhirna bhogassaptanamashtanamva" Of the seven planets from the Sun to Saturn, or the eight planets from the Sun to Rahu, which ever gets the highest number of degrees becomes the Atmakaraka. Confusion persists..........whether to include Rahu in chara karakas or not..........rahu a mysterious planet is still inscrutable to me.. Please guide. Regards, Jai OM GANESHAYA NAMAH !!! Visti Larsen <in_joy_i_scream >To: <vedic astrology>Saturday, March 09, 2002 4:43 PMSubject: Re: [vedic astrology] Atmakaraka -- To Visti Vyam Vysadevaya Namah-------------------Dear Jai,There are 8 Chara Karakas(7 Sthira & 9 Naisargika).The 8th is either Rahu or Ketu. Which one is it, andwhy?To understand the Chara Karakas, you must study thevery base of hinduism; the Astadala Padma. Draw yourconclussion from there.Eagerly awaiting your reply.Best wishes, Visti.--- Jai <shashankastro > wrote:> OM GANESHAYA NAMAH !!!> > Dear Visti --> > Can Rahu be taken as atmakaraka ??> > Regards,> -- Jai> > OM GANESHAYA NAMAH !!!> Try FREE Mail - the world's greatest free email!/Archives: vedic astrologyGroup info: vedic astrology/info.htmlTo UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology-....... May Jupiter's light shine on us ....... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 11, 2002 Report Share Posted March 11, 2002 Vyam Vysadevaya Namah ----------------- Dear Jai, I did give you guidance, and skipped over the translations given in texts immedietely. Now Study the Asta-Dala Padma. Best wishes, Visti. --- Jai <shashankastro wrote: > > OM GANESHAYA NAMAH !!! > > Dear Visti, > > 1. The naisargika or natural karakas are the same as > the Parashari karakas (am quite confident with > parashar methodology but jaimini .......oops > .......long way to go). > 2. The sthira (static) karakas are the stronger > between sun and venus for father, stronger between > moon and mars for mother, mars for brother, > siblings, mercury for maternal uncle/aunt, jupiter > for grandfather, venus for husband, saturn for > children and ketu for wife and parents-in-law. > > 3. The chara (dynamic) karakas: > > "Atmadhikaha kaladibhirna bhogassaptanamashtanamva" > > Of the seven planets from the Sun to Saturn, or the > eight planets from the Sun to Rahu, which ever gets > the highest number of degrees becomes the > Atmakaraka. > > Confusion persists..........whether to include Rahu > in chara karakas or not..........rahu a mysterious > planet is still inscrutable to me.. > > Please guide. > > Regards, > Jai > > OM GANESHAYA NAMAH !!! > > Visti Larsen <in_joy_i_scream > <vedic astrology> > Saturday, March 09, 2002 4:43 PM > Re: [vedic astrology] Atmakaraka -- To > Visti > > > Vyam Vysadevaya Namah > > ------------------- > Dear Jai, > There are 8 Chara Karakas(7 Sthira & 9 > Naisargika). > The 8th is either Rahu or Ketu. Which one is it, > and > why? > > To understand the Chara Karakas, you must study > the > very base of hinduism; the Astadala Padma. Draw > your > conclussion from there. > > Eagerly awaiting your reply. > Best wishes, Visti. > > > > --- Jai <shashankastro wrote: > > OM GANESHAYA NAMAH !!! > > > > Dear Visti -- > > > > Can Rahu be taken as atmakaraka ?? > > > > Regards, > > -- Jai > > > > OM GANESHAYA NAMAH !!! > > > > > > > Try FREE Mail - the world's greatest free > email! > / > > Archives: > vedic astrology > > Group info: > vedic astrology/info.html > > To UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to > vedic astrology- > > ....... May Jupiter's light shine on us ....... > > || Om Tat Sat || Sarvam Sri > Krishnaarpanamastu || > > > Terms of Service. > > Try FREE Mail - the world's greatest free email! / Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 11, 2002 Report Share Posted March 11, 2002 OM GANESHAYA NAMAH !!! Dear Visti, Asta-Dala Padma -> is it a book or some text given in specific book....? Regards, Jai Visti Larsen <in_joy_i_scream >To: <vedic astrology>Monday, March 11, 2002 3:21 PMSubject: Re: [vedic astrology] Atmakaraka -- To Visti Vyam Vysadevaya Namah-----------------Dear Jai,I did give you guidance, and skipped over thetranslations given in texts immedietely.Now Study the Asta-Dala Padma.Best wishes, Visti.--- Jai <shashankastro > wrote:> > OM GANESHAYA NAMAH !!!> > Dear Visti,> > 1. The naisargika or natural karakas are the same as> the Parashari karakas (am quite confident with> parashar methodology but jaimini .......oops> .......long way to go).> 2. The sthira (static) karakas are the stronger> between sun and venus for father, stronger between> moon and mars for mother, mars for brother,> siblings, mercury for maternal uncle/aunt, jupiter> for grandfather, venus for husband, saturn for> children and ketu for wife and parents-in-law. > > 3. The chara (dynamic) karakas:> > "Atmadhikaha kaladibhirna bhogassaptanamashtanamva"> > Of the seven planets from the Sun to Saturn, or the> eight planets from the Sun to Rahu, which ever gets > the highest number of degrees becomes the> Atmakaraka.> > Confusion persists..........whether to include Rahu> in chara karakas or not..........rahu a mysterious> planet is still inscrutable to me..> > Please guide.> > Regards,> Jai> > OM GANESHAYA NAMAH !!!> > Visti Larsen <in_joy_i_scream >> <vedic astrology>> Date: Saturday, March 09, 2002 4:43 PM> Re: [vedic astrology] Atmakaraka -- To> Visti> > > Vyam Vysadevaya Namah> > -------------------> Dear Jai,> There are 8 Chara Karakas(7 Sthira & 9> Naisargika).> The 8th is either Rahu or Ketu. Which one is it,> and> why?> > To understand the Chara Karakas, you must study> the> very base of hinduism; the Astadala Padma. Draw> your> conclussion from there.> > Eagerly awaiting your reply.> Best wishes, Visti.> > > > --- Jai <shashankastro > wrote:> > OM GANESHAYA NAMAH !!!> > > > Dear Visti --> > > > Can Rahu be taken as atmakaraka ??> > > > Regards,> > -- Jai> > > > OM GANESHAYA NAMAH !!!> > > > > > Do You ?> Try FREE Mail - the world's greatest free> email!> /> > Archives:> vedic astrology> > Group info:>vedic astrology/info.html> > To UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to> vedic astrology-> > > > || Om Tat Sat || Sarvam Sri> Krishnaarpanamastu || > > Your use of is subject to the > Terms of Service. > > Try FREE Mail - the world's greatest free email!/Archives: vedic astrologyGroup info: vedic astrology/info.htmlTo UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology-....... May Jupiter's light shine on us ....... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 13, 2002 Report Share Posted March 13, 2002 Om Krishna Guru =============== Respected Visti and Dearest Jay: While I myself am a student of Jyotish and not very qualified... I felt compelled to add to what Visti has kindly mentioned below: My Diksha Guruji clearly explained the Naisargika, Chara, and Sthira karakas, whereby I understand that: 1) Rahu *can* be Atmakaraka 2) Atmakaraka is (usually) the Graha [Rahu or Ketu inclusive] that has the highest degrees 3) Ketu sure gets complicated and confusing as *generally* Ketu is headless [Head is the Rahu] and therefore the confusion. While I may not have totally answered the query or added much input; I believe this discussion needs to be carried further and in details as there is not much in the archives with regards to Rahu/Ketu being Atmakaraka. Furthermore, if I remember correctly, Visti's Kundali [horoscope] shows Rahu as Atmakaraka. So if Visti also insists that Rahu can be Atmakaraka, then I would stick with that point of view [Thanks Visti]. One more thing I wanted to add [sorry; I have been away for long] with regards to other threads [where Sanjay-Ji has commented about a boy's chart --- approx. March 1st week, 2002 post ---]: ....is with regards to Rahu + Atmakaraka relationship [see below]. Rahu is mysterious in many ways [this even I have found out the hard way...], however it is my *personal* opinion that when Rahu conjoins or afflicts the Atmakaraka, the lessons for this life become even more intense! Especially when the Atmakaraka happens to be Sun or Moon. Hope the above helps the list. With that...please convey my best regards to all your loved ones ever and you all take care too. Om Namo Narayana Pranaam, kind regards, and best wishes Ron vedic astrology, Visti Larsen <in_joy_i_scream> wrote: > Vyam Vysadevaya Namah > ----------------- > Dear Jai, > I did give you guidance, and skipped over the > translations given in texts immedietely. > > Now Study the Asta-Dala Padma. > > Best wishes, Visti. > > --- Jai <shashankastro> wrote: > > > > OM GANESHAYA NAMAH !!! > > > > Dear Visti, > > > > 1. The naisargika or natural karakas are the same as > > the Parashari karakas (am quite confident with > > parashar methodology but jaimini .......oops > > .......long way to go). > > 2. The sthira (static) karakas are the stronger > > between sun and venus for father, stronger between > > moon and mars for mother, mars for brother, > > siblings, mercury for maternal uncle/aunt, jupiter > > for grandfather, venus for husband, saturn for > > children and ketu for wife and parents-in-law. > > > > 3. The chara (dynamic) karakas: > > > > "Atmadhikaha kaladibhirna bhogassaptanamashtanamva" > > > > Of the seven planets from the Sun to Saturn, or the > > eight planets from the Sun to Rahu, which ever gets > > the highest number of degrees becomes the > > Atmakaraka. > > > > Confusion persists..........whether to include Rahu > > in chara karakas or not..........rahu a mysterious > > planet is still inscrutable to me.. > > > > Please guide. > > > > Regards, > > Jai > > > > OM GANESHAYA NAMAH !!! > > > > Visti Larsen <in_joy_i_scream> > > <vedic astrology> > > Saturday, March 09, 2002 4:43 PM > > Re: [vedic astrology] Atmakaraka -- To > > Visti > > > > > > Vyam Vysadevaya Namah > > > > ------------------- > > Dear Jai, > > There are 8 Chara Karakas(7 Sthira & 9 > > Naisargika). > > The 8th is either Rahu or Ketu. Which one is it, > > and > > why? > > > > To understand the Chara Karakas, you must study > > the > > very base of hinduism; the Astadala Padma. Draw > > your > > conclussion from there. > > > > Eagerly awaiting your reply. > > Best wishes, Visti. > > > > > > > > --- Jai <shashankastro> wrote: > > > OM GANESHAYA NAMAH !!! > > > > > > Dear Visti -- > > > > > > Can Rahu be taken as atmakaraka ?? > > > > > > Regards, > > > -- Jai > > > > > > OM GANESHAYA NAMAH !!! > > > > > > > > > > > > > Try FREE Mail - the world's greatest free > > email! > > / > > > > Archives: > > vedic astrology > > > > Group info: > > > vedic astrology/info.html > > > > To UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to > > vedic astrology-@e... > > > > ....... May Jupiter's light shine on us ....... > > > > || Om Tat Sat || Sarvam Sri > > Krishnaarpanamastu || > > > > > > Terms of Service. > > > > > > > > > Try FREE Mail - the world's greatest free email! > / Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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