Guest guest Posted February 21, 2002 Report Share Posted February 21, 2002 Dear List I am not sure if this list has discussed this earlier. I have come across a horoscope of the renowned music composer and scholar Saint Thyagaraja, who was a great devotee of Lord Rama. I am also not sure if the birth data I have from a book is correct. Saint Tyagaraja: Birth Information: Monday, 4th May 1767; 12.00 Noon at Tiruvarur in Tanjore District, Tamil Nadu, India Birth Star: Pushya I tried using the JHL, but the birth data given above does not match with the chart published in the book. According to the horoscope published in the book: RASI CHART: Lagna/Moon in Kataka Jupiter, Mercury and Kethu in Simha Rahu in Kumbha Sun in Mesha Venus and Saturn in Vrishba Mars in Mithuna NAVAMSAM CHART: Lagna in Kumbha Rahu in Vrishba Venus in Kataka Moon in Simha Saturn in Kanya Sun, Mercury and Jupiter in Thula Mars and Kethu in Vrischika I am unable to get the correct latitude and longitude for Tiruvarur. I hope it will be interesting to discuss the horoscope of this great saint, an accomplished music genius and a person respected to this date, by the classical music community. Any food for thought? R. Kasthuri Rangan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 21, 2002 Report Share Posted February 21, 2002 Dear friend, I hope this helps. Jagmeet Attachment: (application/octet-stream) Saint Tyagaraja.jhd [not stored] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 21, 2002 Report Share Posted February 21, 2002 Dear Jagmeet The jhd file does not seem to tally with the published horoscope that I have. In the published horoscope: RASI CHART: Lagna/Moon is in Kataka Jupiter, Mercury and Kethu are in Simha Rahu is in Kumbha Sun is in Mesha Venus and Saturn are in Vrishaba Mars is in Mithuna NAVAMSA CHART: Lagna is in Kumbha Rahu is in Vrishaba Venus is in Kataka Moon is in Simha Saturn is in Kanya Sun, Mercury and Jupiter are in Thula Mars and Kethu are in Vrischika This horoscope has been released by one of his leading disciples, Sri Venkataramana Bhagavathar, according to this book on the life and works of Saint Tygaraja. Can we discuss this horoscope and see what has made him, what he was and what he is, today? The learned Gurus can throw light on whether it tallies at all. Regards R. Kasthuri Rangan vedic astrology, jagmeet s dheendsa <jsdheendsa@j...> wrote: > > Dear friend, > I hope this helps. > Jagmeet Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 21, 2002 Report Share Posted February 21, 2002 Om shree Gurave Namah, Dear K. Rangan, I think The copied chart could be wrong as Mercury(Simha-Leo) cannot 5 signs away from sun(Aries-Mesha). Regards S.Prabhakaran - rkrangan vedic astrology Thursday, February 21, 2002 9:15 PM [vedic astrology] Re: Music Composer Saint Thyagaraja's horoscope Dear JagmeetThe jhd file does not seem to tally with the published horoscope that I have.In the published horoscope:RASI CHART:Lagna/Moon is in KatakaJupiter, Mercury and Kethu are in SimhaRahu is in KumbhaSun is in MeshaVenus and Saturn are in VrishabaMars is in MithunaNAVAMSA CHART:Lagna is in KumbhaRahu is in VrishabaVenus is in KatakaMoon is in SimhaSaturn is in KanyaSun, Mercury and Jupiter are in ThulaMars and Kethu are in VrischikaThis horoscope has been released by one of his leading disciples, Sri Venkataramana Bhagavathar, according to this book on the life and works of Saint Tygaraja.Can we discuss this horoscope and see what has made him, what he was and what he is, today? The learned Gurus can throw light on whether it tallies at all.RegardsR. Kasthuri Ranganvedic astrology, jagmeet s dheendsa <jsdheendsa@j...> wrote:> > Dear friend,> I hope this helps.> JagmeetArchives: vedic astrologyGroup info: vedic astrology/info.htmlTo UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology-....... May Jupiter's light shine on us ....... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 21, 2002 Report Share Posted February 21, 2002 Dear Sanjay I agree there is some major error. I wonder how we can approach this issue. Best wishes R. Kasthuri Rangan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 22, 2002 Report Share Posted February 22, 2002 Om Shree gurave Namah, Dear list, Using JHL chart. I feel that the given time could be wrong since Atmakaraka(saturn) is in 8th(Virgo) in dushtana. The other possibilites for singer composer can be Leo or Libra Navamsa Lagna(Moon/Sun has to be in trines for singers). I think the navamsa lagna has to be Libra. with Sun and Jupiter. Sun the maximum Shadbala with 590. Sun gives knowledge of music, aspect of Moon on Navamsa lagna gives vocal abilities. Sun in lagnamsa also made him a court singer. Sun as the 12th lord from AK conjunct BK (jupiter) made him a Ram Bhakta. Can others give their opinion on this please. Regards S.Prabakaran Saint Tyagaraja Natal Chart May 4, 1767 Time: 11:22:16 Time Zone: 5:18:36 (East of GMT) Longitude: 79 E 39' 00" Latitude: 10 N 46' 00" Altitude: 0.00 meters Lunar Year: Sarva-jit Lunar Month: Vaisakha Tithi: Sukla Sapthami (97.40% left) Weekday: Friday Nakshatra: Pushyami (86.14% left) Yoga: Soola Karana: Garija Hora Lord: Mars Sunrise: 5:41:07 Sunset: 18:12:33 Janma Ghatis: 14.2143 Body Longitude Nakshatra Pada Rasi Navamsa ChKarak Lagna 13 Cn 19' 26.11" Pushyami 3 Cn Li - Sun 22 Ar 52' 07.50" Bharani 3 Ar Li AmK Moon 5 Cn 10' 51.27" Pushyami 1 Cn Le PK Mars 3 Ge 48' 00.73" Mrigasira 4 Ge Sc GK Mercury 3 Ar 13' 59.78" Aswini 1 Ar Ar DK Jupiter ® 22 Le 23' 19.71" Poo.Pha. 3 Le Li BK Venus 20 Ta 39' 44.33" Rohini 4 Ta Cn MK Saturn 27 Ta 34' 42.25" Mrigasira 2 Ta Vi AK Rahu 14 Cp 21' 51.78" Sravanam 2 Cp Ta PiK Ketu 14 Cn 21' 51.78" Pushyami 4 Cn Sc - Uranus 9 Ar 27' 45.80" Aswini 3 Ar Ge - Neptune ® 11 Le 49' 10.76" Makha 4 Le Cn - Pluto ® 21 Sg 09' 02.70" Poo.Shaa. 3 Sg Li - Bhava Lagna 17 Cn 55' 30.47" Aasresha 1 Cn Sg - Hora Lagna 13 Li 12' 38.66" Swathi 2 Li Cp - Ghati Lagna 29 Ge 04' 03.21" Punarvasu 3 Ge Ge - Vighati Lagna 18 Cp 21' 05.99" Sravanam 3 Cp Ge - Pranapada Lagna 18 Cp 34' 51.20" Sravanam 3 Cp Ge - Sree Lagna 3 Vi 12' 30.50" U.Pha. 2 Vi Cp - Indu Lagna 5 Aq 10' 51.27" Dhanishtha 4 Aq Sc - Kunda 29 Ge 14' 14.76" Punarvasu 3 Ge Ge - Dhooma 6 Vi 12' 07.50" U.Pha. 3 Vi Aq - Vyatipata 23 Li 47' 52.50" Visakha 2 Li Ta - Parivesha 23 Ar 47' 52.50" Bharani 4 Ar Sc - Indra Chapa 6 Pi 12' 07.50" U.Bhaa. 1 Pi Le - Upaketu 22 Pi 52' 07.50" Revathi 2 Pi Cp - Kaala 10 Cn 27' 12.96" Pushyami 3 Cn Li - Mrityu 25 Le 45' 17.35" Poo.Pha. 4 Le Sc - Artha Prahara 19 Vi 25' 18.12" Hastha 3 Vi Ge - Yama Ghantaka 12 Li 41' 51.54" Swathi 2 Li Cp - Maandi 27 Ta 17' 58.51" Mrigasira 2 Ta Vi - Gulika 15 Ta 59' 58.62" Rohini 2 Ta Ta - Varnada Lagna 26 Cp 32' 04.77" Dhanishtha 1 Cp Le - +--------------+ | |Sun Mer |Ven Sat |Mar GL | | |AL |Mnd Glk | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | |-----------+-----------------------+-----------| | | |Asc Moo | | | |Ket | | | | | | | | | | | | | |-----------| Rasi |-----------| |Rah | |JupR | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | |-----------+-----------------------+-----------| | | |HL | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | +--------------+ +--------------+ | |Mer |Rah Glk |GL | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | |-----------+-----------------------+-----------| | | |Ven | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | |-----------| Navamsa |-----------| |HL AL | |Moo | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | |-----------+-----------------------+-----------| | |Mar Ket |Asc Sun |Sat Mnd | | | |JupR | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | +--------------+ Vimsottari Dasa (started from Moon): Sat Sat 1764-09-28 Mer 1767-09-16 Ket 1770-05-12 Ven 1771-06-15 Sun 1774-07-29 Moo 1775-07-06 Mar 1777-01-26 Rah 1778-03-01 Jup 1780-12-21 Mer Mer 1783-06-21 Ket 1785-11-04 Ven 1786-10-27 Sun 1789-08-12 Moo 1790-06-14 Mar 1791-11-06 Rah 1792-10-28 Jup 1795-05-04 Sat 1797-07-28 Ket Ket 1800-03-24 Ven 1800-08-18 Sun 1801-10-12 Moo 1802-02-15 Mar 1802-09-13 Rah 1803-02-07 Jup 1804-02-20 Sat 1805-01-21 Mer 1806-02-24 Ven Ven 1807-02-16 Sun 1810-05-31 Moo 1811-05-26 Mar 1813-01-15 Rah 1814-03-11 Jup 1817-02-23 Sat 1819-10-11 Mer 1822-11-24 Ket 1825-09-09 Sun Sun 1826-11-03 Moo 1827-02-19 Mar 1827-08-18 Rah 1827-12-22 Jup 1828-11-10 Sat 1829-08-25 Mer 1830-08-02 Ket 1831-06-04 Ven 1831-10-08 Moo Moo 1832-10-02 Mar 1833-07-29 Rah 1834-02-24 Jup 1835-08-18 Sat 1836-12-10 Mer 1838-07-03 Ket 1839-11-25 Ven 1840-06-22 Sun 1842-02-12 Mar Mar 1842-08-11 Rah 1843-01-05 Jup 1844-01-18 Sat 1844-12-19 Mer 1846-01-22 Ket 1847-01-14 Ven 1847-06-10 Sun 1848-08-03 Moo 1848-12-07 Rah Rah 1849-07-05 Jup 1852-03-03 Sat 1854-07-15 Mer 1857-05-06 Ket 1859-11-10 Ven 1860-11-22 Sun 1863-11-07 Moo 1864-09-26 Mar 1866-03-20 Jup Jup 1867-04-02 Sat 1869-05-09 Mer 1871-11-07 Ket 1874-01-31 Ven 1875-01-02 Sun 1877-08-19 Moo 1878-06-03 Mar 1879-09-26 Rah 1880-08-27 http://home.att.net/~s-prasad/tyagaraja.htm Tyagaraja (1767-1847) Sri Tyagaraja, the most celebrated Carnatic Music saint was a great devotee of Lord Sri Rama. Tyagaraja lived to the full extent that God realization is best achieved through Nadopasana (music with devotion). His songs are filled with an intimate devotion to Rama, all through revealing his deep understanding of the tenets of the Vedas and Upanishads. vedic astrology, "rkrangan" <rkrangan> wrote: > Dear Sanjay > > I agree there is some major error. > > I wonder how we can approach this issue. > > Best wishes > R. Kasthuri Rangan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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