House for Degrees Bachelor's degree,Diplomas etc

February 20, 2002

6th Nov 1950 1:01 pm 9N40 80E0 +5:30 GMT. Ascendant falls in very last part of Capricorn.

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Tuesday, February 19, 2002 11:12 PM

Re: [vedic astrology] Re: House for Degrees Bachelor's degree,Diplomas etc

Dear Nimmi,

To add some more data to this discussion, I also know a person with Libra

ascendant and saturn, moon situated in 9th and Jupiter in 5th. He did his

engineering and studied further to achieve 2 masters and then MBA.

Nimmi can you give me the birth data of the person you talked about?

Regards,

Jai

Nimmi Ragavan <106350.3660 (AT) compuserve (DOT) com>To:

<vedic astrology>Wednesday, February 20, 2002 12:45

AMRe: [vedic astrology] Re: House for Degrees Bachelor's

degree,Diplomas etcDear Visti,I agree with this completely re Saturn with Moon.

I know someone with thisin the 9th who tends to collect post graduate

qualifications. To myknowledge, at present he has 2 masters, 1 business

management diploma and 1chartered engineering qualification. Definitely very

hardworking. And a goodmind (Sun Merc together helps too!)Regards,Nimmi-----

Original Message -----"Visti Larsen" <in_joy_i_scream >To:

<vedic astrology>Monday, February 18, 2002 10:08

PMRe: [vedic astrology] Re: House for Degrees

Bachelor'sdegree,Diplomas etc>> Vyam Vysadevaya Namah>

--------------------> Dear Gurudeva, Namaste.>

Saturn would give the hard-working drive to attain> knowledge.> When Moon is

associated with Saturn, the person> dwelves on subjects for a long time, and

hence the> repetitive effect.> This is my reasoning, and i didn't differ in

other> areas.> Offcourse without Jupiters strength the person would> forget

what they were thinking about quite quickly,> and make a bad teacher..This is

FAR from the fact with> you, oh Great Simhasan Guru, who is in constant>

meditation.>> Is this the great blessing of Gayatri?> Yes i need a break, and

renewed energy and direction> Its hard to see your goals in sight with Saturn

and> Rahu in the 7th.>> Best wishes, Visti.>>> --- Sanjay Rath <srath (AT) vsnl (DOT) com>

wrote:> >> > om gurave namah> >>

------------------------> > Dear Visti> > What

is going on? Since when did Saturn give> > retentive memory? Jupiter is> > the

memory and if guru is in Simhalokamsa the person> > shall have such a> >

powerful memory that he shall remember his past 3> > lives! (Thats a sloka)

Now> > Saturn causes debility of Jupiter and loss of> > memory. I guess we all

need a> > break.> > With best wishes> > Sanjay Rath> > Web:

http://sanjayrath.tripod.com> > Services:

http://sanjayrath.tripod.com/zservices.htm> > Jyotish Digest:

http://jyotishdigest.com/> > SJVC: http://www.sjvc.org/> > ----- Original

Message -----> > "Visti Larsen" <in_joy_i_scream >> > To:

<vedic astrology>> > Monday, February 18, 2002 4:44 PM> >

Re: [vedic astrology] Re: House for Degrees> > Bachelor's> >

degree,Diplomas etc> >> >> > Vyam Vysadevaya Namah> >

---------------> > Dear List,> > Saturn is

good for retentive memory yes.> >> > Mars is for logical thinking, Mercury for

learning> > ability. Jupiter for teaching, Venus for creativity,> > etc.> >> >

Best wishes, Visti.> >> > --- lakshmi ramesh <b_lakshmi_ramesh >> >

wrote:> > >> > > Om Gurave Namah> > > Namaste Visti,> > > I also read

somewhere in BV Raman that Saturn in> > > dignity can give highly retentive

memory.> > > Regards,> > > Lakshmi> > > Visti Larsen

<in_joy_i_scream > wrote:> > > Vyam Vysadevaya Namah> > >

----------> > > Dear Katti, Partha and Ash,> >

>> > > Sani isn't the Karaka for intelligence, but> > without> > > sani's

influence you won't become intelligent!> > This> > > is> > > the concept of the

Tapaswi.> > >> > > Surya is the Karaka for all knowledge, brain and> > > hence>

> > also intelligence. This is also the result of the> > > Gayatri for

Savitur(Surya).> > >> > > Best wishes, Visti.> > >> > > --- Katti Narahari

<katti_narahari (AT) hotmail (DOT) com>> > > wrote:> > > > Dear Ash,> > > >> > > > Saturn

being the karaka for intelligence!!!!...> > > you> > > > mentioned 6th lord has

to be studied... am i on> > > > track by assuming that 6th house is for service>

> > and> > > > Saturn is the natural karaka for 6th house? or> > am> > > i> > >

> on a tangential course of thinking?> > > >> > > > Regards> > > >> > > > Katti

Narahari> > > > -> > > > ashsam73> > > >

vedic astrology> > > > Sunday, February 17, 2002

4:02 AM> > > > [vedic astrology] Re: House for> > Degrees> > > >

Bachelor's degree,Diplomas etc> > > >> > > >> > > > Hi Sanjay and Hari,> > >

>> > > > If one gets a degree that increases the status> > > of> > > > the

person then> > > > 6th and 10th along with 5th house and their> > > lords> >

> > have to be studied> > > > as 6th house increases the status and 10th for>

> > > profession this is> > > > from lagna. 5th house is for degree and 9th>

> for> > > > advanced learning> > > > and spiritual learning. But before you

dwelve> > > > into the degree, the> > > > intellegence of the person has to be

gauged as> > > > success and failure> > > > would depend on it. The karak

for> > intellegence> > > is> > > > Saturn and if> > > > lagna lord, Sun and

Moon are in the Saturnian> > > sign> > > > in Navamsa,> > > > Drekkhana and

Trimsamsa then the person can be> > > > very intellegent.> > > > 4th house is

for knowlege and 5th for degree.> > > > For an institute like SJVC, which does

not> > give> > > > any degree, 12th> > > > house and 9th hosue would have to

be studied> > for> > > > spirituality and> > > > higher learning.> > > >> > >

> Sometimes we find that a person may be very> > > > intellegent but the dasa>

> > > running at that point might now be favourable> > at> > > > all, though

a> > > > person is inclined and wants to do say for> > > example> > > >

engineering but> > > > during the maturity of grade 12 marks and at> > the> >

> > time of admission> > > > if the dasa running is not favourable then he> >

> may> > > > not get admission> > > > into a college, this can also be

studied from> > > > Navamsa lords of 10th> > > > house from Sun, lagna and

moon have to be> > > studied> > > > and their> > > > respective strengths.> >

> >> > > > What may be good education or level of> > education> > > > in one

coutry may> > > > be different from the other, and this is also> > to> > > >

be studied> > > > depending on the place one is in.> > > >> > > > Cheers

!!!> > > > Ash> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > > vedic astrology,

"Katti Narahari"> > > > <katti_narahari@h...>> > > > wrote:> > > > > Om

Guruve Namah.> > > > >> > > > > If you are talking of degrees and> > >

certificates,> > > > i think it;s A5.> > > > >> > > > > Hari> > > > >

-> > > > > Sanjay Prabhakaran> > > > >

vedic astrology> > > > > Sunday, February 17, 2002 12:22 AM>

> > > > [vedic astrology] House for> > Degrees> > > > Bachelor's>

> > > degree,Diplomas etc> > > > >> > > > >> > > > > Om Gurave

Namah,> > > > > Dear Jyotishas,> > > > > Which house signifies

Bachelor's degree> > > like> > > > BE or B.Sc.,> > > > > I was usually

looking in the 4th house,> > but> > > > should I look into> > > > 9th house

for higher education. Bachelors> > > degrees> > > > in science,> > > >

commerce is so common in most cases in India> > > that> > > > can we consider

it> > > > as basic education?.> > > > > Master's degree can count in the

9th> > house.> > > > > What house to look for jyotisha studies> > like> >>

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February 21, 2002

Om Gurave Namah

Hi Nimmi,

I also have this combination in my chart. Since Jupiter is conjunct with this

combination, mental depression is minimum. I do have photographic memory and

remember nearly verbatim most of what I read, and my success in academics is

mostly due to this than the hard work I put in.

But my memory is abominable often…like, I can’t for life of me connect

people/faces with names or invariably remember the wrong ones and it’s so

embarrassing! I wonder what causes such memory fluctuations? Mindset

preferences? How to gauge this from a chart?

Regards,

Lakshmi

Nimmi Ragavan <106350.3660 (AT) compuserve (DOT) com> wrote:

Dear Lakshmi,

A very successful consulting engineer working for a world known enterprise in

Australia has this very combination - Saturn and Ketu with Moon in Virgo in the

9th. Ascendant is Scorpio. There is no association by Jupiter (in Aquarius),

Venus, Mercury (in LIbra). Sun is in Libra and Mars is in Sag.

He is known for being well informed in a number of fields, not just his own. He

has a couple of masters degrees and also professional qualifications as a

chartered engineer. He is the principal engineer in his area.

So perhaps the effect is not on the reasoning mind. I would agree that there is

a certain level of pessimism where he is often surprised at his own success. So

the level of comfort may be affected, the extent to which he takes the world for

granted (i.e what we get from our mother?)

Best Regards,

Nimmi

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Tuesday, February 19, 2002 11:07 AM

Re: [vedic astrology] Re: House for Degrees Bachelor's degree,Diplomas etc

Om Gurave Namah

Shri Sanjay,

Namaste. I am sorry if my random reference to Dr Raman offended you. I meant no

disrespect to any one. And, Guruji, I have specifically said Saturn “in

dignity”, which is a typical Raman phrase and certainly not mine. I am still

searching for that particular line (I know I’ve read that line before), and I

intend to find it even if I have to scour all the pages of the books of Raman.

But, in the meanwhile, may I quote this particular sentence from “How to judge

a Horoscope-Volume One”, page 254-255:

“If Moon is in conjunction with Saturn, and there’s no beneficial aspect to

relieve, the mind is stubborn, slow and subject to melancholia. When, however,

there is Adhi yoga or Gajakesari yoga, a well-balanced mind with good reasoning

qualities will develop and a retentive memory is shown.”

Also Guruji, memory is more of a convenient indexing of events & data, so that

retrieval is easy. More of repetitive I/O operations. Doesn’t “Dhi” imply

considerably more than memory? Don’t we have so many “absent minded professors”

whose genius is unquestionable? Since Saturn rules organization and discipline,

and also in a way “ is a planet of logic” ( Page 35 of Notable horoscopes- Adi

Sankaracharya ) a good Saturn can certainly aid a good memory. That’s why memory

can be “trained” unlike true brilliance….

Also Saturn, as Yama, needs to remember everyone’s accumulated karmic balance

sheet spanning so many births, to deal out punishment or to award emancipation.

He’s the oldest and has the longest memory.

Thanks for giving a valuable lesson well meant, well taken & not easily

forgotten (I’ve got a crick in the neck poring over books …) on this auspicious

day of “Ratha Saptami” or “Surya Jayanthi “…

“Dhyaayet-Sooryam Ananthakoti-kiranam Thejomayam-Bhaaskaram

Bhakthaanam-abhayapradam Dinakaram Jyothirmayam Sankaram

Aadithyam Jagadeesam-achyuthamajam Thrailokya choodaamanim

Bhaktabheesta-varapradam Dinamanim Maarthanda-maadhyam Subham “

May He always lead us to Truth.

Regards,

Lakshmi

P.S: Your suggestion of a break makes real good sense. Thanks.

Sanjay Rath <srath (AT) vsnl (DOT) com> wrote:

om gurave namah------------------------Dear Lakshmi

Please stop quoting Dr Raman like that. Give the reference if you have it. I

cannot believe that Dr Raman could have said such a thing.With best

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Monday, February 18, 2002 4:38 PM

Re: [vedic astrology] Re: House for Degrees Bachelor's degree,Diplomas etc

Om Gurave Namah Namaste Visti, I also read somewhere in BV Raman that Saturn in

dignity can give highly retentive memory. Regards, Lakshmi Visti Larsen

<in_joy_i_scream > wrote: Vyam Vysadevaya

Namah----------Dear Katti, Partha and Ash,Sani

isn't the Karaka for intelligence, but withoutsani's influence you won't become

intelligent! This isthe concept of the Tapaswi.Surya is the Karaka for all

knowledge, brain and hencealso intelligence. This is also the result of

theGayatri for Savitur(Surya).Best wishes, Visti.--- Katti Narahari

<katti_narahari (AT) hotmail (DOT) com> wrote:> Dear Ash,> > Saturn being the karaka for

intelligence!!!!... you> mentioned 6th lord has to be studied... am i on> track

by assuming that 6th house is for service and> Saturn is the natural karaka for

6th house? or am i> on a tangential course of thinking?> > Regards> > Katti

Narahari> - > ashs! am73 > To:

vedic astrology > Sunday, February 17, 2002 4:02 AM>

[vedic astrology] Re: House for Degrees> Bachelor's degree,Diplomas

etc> > > Hi Sanjay and Hari,> > If one gets a degree that increases the

status of> the person then > 6th and 10th along with 5th house and their

lords> have to be studied > as 6th house increases the status and 10th for>

profession this is > from lagna. 5th house is for degree and 9th for>

advanced learning > and spiritual learning. But before you dwelve> into the

degree, the > intellegence of the person has to be gauged as> success and

failure > would depend on it. The karak for intellegence is> Saturn and if >

& nbsp; lagna lord, Sun and M! oon are in the Saturnian sign> in Navamsa, >

Drekkhana and Trimsamsa then the person can be> very intellegent.> 4th house

is for knowlege and 5th for degree.> For an institute like SJVC, which does

not give> any degree, 12th > house and 9th hosue would have to be studied

for> spirituality and > higher learning.> > Sometimes we find that a person

may be very> intellegent but the dasa > running at that point might now be

favourable at> all, though a > person is inclined and wants to do say for

example> engineering but > during the maturity of grade 12 marks and at the>

time of admission > if the dasa running is not favourable then he may> not

get admission > into a college, this can also be studied from> Navamsa lords

of 10th &! gt; house from Sun, lagna and moon have to be studied> and their >

respective strengths.> > What may be good education or level of education>

in one coutry may > be different from the other, and this is also to> be

studied > depending on the place one is in. > > Cheers !!!> Ash> > > >

vedic astrology, "Katti Narahari"> <katti_narahari@h...> > wrote:>

> Om Guruve Namah.> > > > If you are talking of degrees and certificates,>

i think it;s A5.> > > > Hari> > - > >

Sanjay Prabhakaran > > ve dic-astrology >! > Sent:

Sunday, February 17, 2002 12:22 AM> > [vedic astrology] House for

Degrees> Bachelor's > degree,Diplomas etc> > > > > > Om Gurave

Namah,> > Dear Jyotishas,> > Which house signifies Bachelor's degree

like> BE or B.Sc.,> > I was usually looking in the 4th house, but> should I

look into > 9th house for higher education. Bachelors degrees> in science, >

commerce is so common in most cases in India that> can we consider it > as

basic education?.> > Master's degree can count in the 9th house. > >

What house to look for jyotisha studies like> we hav e in SJVC, > &n! bsp; 9th

house?.> > > > Regards> > Sanjay Prabhakaran> > > >

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Names would relate to words and therefore mercury isn't it?

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Thursday, February 21, 2002 9:06 AM

Re: [vedic astrology] Re: House for Degrees Bachelor's degree,Diplomas etc

Om Gurave Namah

Hi Nimmi,

I also have this combination in my chart. Since Jupiter is conjunct with this

combination, mental depression is minimum. I do have photographic memory and

remember nearly verbatim most of what I read, and my success in academics is

mostly due to this than the hard work I put in.

But my memory is abominable often…like, I can’t for life of me

connect people/faces with names or invariably remember the wrong ones and

it’s so embarrassing! I wonder what causes such memory fluctuations?

Mindset preferences? How to gauge this from a chart?