Guest guest Posted February 16, 2002 Report Share Posted February 16, 2002 Om Gurave Namah, Dear Jyotishas, Which house signifies Bachelor's degree like BE or B.Sc., I was usually looking in the 4th house, but should I look into 9th house for higher education. Bachelors degrees in science, commerce is so common in most cases in India that can we consider it as basic education?. Master's degree can count in the 9th house. What house to look for jyotisha studies like we have in SJVC, 9th house?. Regards Sanjay Prabhakaran Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 16, 2002 Report Share Posted February 16, 2002 Om Guruve Namah. If you are talking of degrees and certificates, i think it;s A5. Hari - Sanjay Prabhakaran vedic astrology Sunday, February 17, 2002 12:22 AM [vedic astrology] House for Degrees Bachelor's degree,Diplomas etc Om Gurave Namah, Dear Jyotishas, Which house signifies Bachelor's degree like BE or B.Sc., I was usually looking in the 4th house, but should I look into 9th house for higher education. Bachelors degrees in science, commerce is so common in most cases in India that can we consider it as basic education?. Master's degree can count in the 9th house. What house to look for jyotisha studies like we have in SJVC, 9th house?. Regards Sanjay PrabhakaranArchives: vedic astrologyGroup info: vedic astrology/info.htmlTo UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology-....... May Jupiter's light shine on us .......|| Om Tat Sat || Sarvam Sri Krishnaarpanamastu || Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 16, 2002 Report Share Posted February 16, 2002 Hi Sanjay and Hari, If one gets a degree that increases the status of the person then 6th and 10th along with 5th house and their lords have to be studied as 6th house increases the status and 10th for profession this is from lagna. 5th house is for degree and 9th for advanced learning and spiritual learning. But before you dwelve into the degree, the intellegence of the person has to be gauged as success and failure would depend on it. The karak for intellegence is Saturn and if lagna lord, Sun and Moon are in the Saturnian sign in Navamsa, Drekkhana and Trimsamsa then the person can be very intellegent. 4th house is for knowlege and 5th for degree. For an institute like SJVC, which does not give any degree, 12th house and 9th hosue would have to be studied for spirituality and higher learning. Sometimes we find that a person may be very intellegent but the dasa running at that point might now be favourable at all, though a person is inclined and wants to do say for example engineering but during the maturity of grade 12 marks and at the time of admission if the dasa running is not favourable then he may not get admission into a college, this can also be studied from Navamsa lords of 10th house from Sun, lagna and moon have to be studied and their respective strengths. What may be good education or level of education in one coutry may be different from the other, and this is also to be studied depending on the place one is in. Cheers !!! Ash vedic astrology, "Katti Narahari" <katti_narahari@h...> wrote: > Om Guruve Namah. > > If you are talking of degrees and certificates, i think it;s A5. > > Hari > - > Sanjay Prabhakaran > vedic astrology > Sunday, February 17, 2002 12:22 AM > [vedic astrology] House for Degrees Bachelor's degree,Diplomas etc > > > Om Gurave Namah, > Dear Jyotishas, > Which house signifies Bachelor's degree like BE or B.Sc., > I was usually looking in the 4th house, but should I look into 9th house for higher education. Bachelors degrees in science, commerce is so common in most cases in India that can we consider it as basic education?. > Master's degree can count in the 9th house. > What house to look for jyotisha studies like we have in SJVC, 9th house?. > > Regards > Sanjay Prabhakaran > > Sponsor > > > > > > > > Group info: vedic- astrology/info.html > > To UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology-@e... > > ....... May Jupiter's light shine on us ....... > > > > Terms of Service. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 17, 2002 Report Share Posted February 17, 2002 my studies say, we should see: 5th house : for person's desire or inclination to study 9th house : for success or failure in competitive examinations 4th house : for reputation of school or university 2nd house : for the level of success person enjoys while studying at college. Regards, --Jai ashsam73 <ashsam73 (AT) hotmail (DOT) com>To: <vedic astrology>Monday, February 18, 2002 10:50 PM[vedic astrology] Re: House for Degrees Bachelor's degree,Diplomas etc Hi Hari,Saturn is Natural Karak for 4th house. If one gets an educational degree that enhances their personal status like a promotion, more power in working environment etc, then 6th house and its lord is responsible for professional status being 9th from 10th house and 6th from lagna. This also should be studied from Moon (as to how you feel from your mind) and from Sun (which might show how you feel from the atma or the soul) 5th house is for degree and 9th for advanced degree. Yes you are right in saying that 6th house indicates service, but it also indicates personal status. Mars is the natural karak for the 6th house, being 8th from natural 6th house. For a chart the functional karak is the 8th house and its lord from the house under consideration. When will the event take place and the quality of the event is a diffent story all together ?Cheers !!!Ashvedic astrology, "Katti Narahari" <katti_narahari@h...> wrote:> Dear Ash,> > Saturn being the karaka for intelligence!!!!... you mentioned 6th lord has to be studied... am i on track by assuming that 6th house is for service and Saturn is the natural karaka for 6th house? or am i on a tangential course of thinking?> > Regards> > Katti Narahari> - > ashsam73 > To: vedic astrology > Sunday, February 17, 2002 4:02 AM> Subject: [vedic astrology] Re: House for Degrees Bachelor's degree,Diplomas etc> > > Hi Sanjay and Hari,> > If one gets a degree that increases the status of the person then > 6th and 10th along with 5th house and their lords have to be studied > as 6th house increases the status and 10th for profession this is > from lagna. 5th house is for degree and 9th for advanced learning > and spiritual learning. But before you dwelve into the degree, the > intellegence of the person has to be gauged as success and failure > would depend on it. The karak for intellegence is Saturn and if > lagna lord, Sun and Moon are in the Saturnian sign in Navamsa, > Drekkhana and Trimsamsa then the person can be very intellegent.> 4th house is for knowlege and 5th for degree.> For an institute like SJVC, which does not give any degree, 12th > house and 9th hosue would have to be studied for spirituality and > higher learning.> > Sometimes we find that a person may be very intellegent but the dasa > running at that point might now be favourable at all, though a > person is inclined and wants to do say for example engineering but > during the maturity of grade 12 marks and at the time of admission > if the dasa running is not favourable then he may not get admission > into a college, this can also be studied from Navamsa lords of 10th > house from Sun, lagna and moon have to be studied and their > respective strengths.> > What may be good education or level of education in one coutry may > be different from the other, and this is also to be studied > depending on the place one is in. > > Cheers !!!> Ash> > > > vedic astrology, "Katti Narahari" <katti_narahari@h...> > wrote:> > Om Guruve Namah.> > > > If you are talking of degrees and certificates, i think it;s A5.> > > > Hari> > - > > Sanjay Prabhakaran > > To: vedic astrology > > Sunday, February 17, 2002 12:22 AM> > [vedic astrology] House for Degrees Bachelor's > degree,Diplomas etc> > > > > > Om Gurave Namah,> > Dear Jyotishas,> > Which house signifies Bachelor's degree like BE or B.Sc.,> > I was usually looking in the 4th house, but should I look into > 9th house for higher education. Bachelors degrees in science, > commerce is so common in most cases in India that can we consider it > as basic education?.> > Master's degree can count in the 9th house. > > What house to look for jyotisha studies like we have in SJVC, > 9th house?.> > > > Regards> > Sanjay Prabhakaran> > > > Sponsor > > > > > > > > > > > > Archives: vedic astrology> > > > Group info: vedic-> astrology/info.html> > > > To UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology-@e...> > > > > > > > || Om Tat Sat || Sarvam Sri Krishnaarpanamastu || > > > > Your use of is subject to the Terms of > Service.> > > Archives: vedic astrology> > Group info: vedic astrology/info.html> > To UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology-@e...> > ....... May Jupiter's light shine on us .......> > || Om Tat Sat || Sarvam Sri Krishnaarpanamastu || > > Terms of Service.Archives: vedic astrologyGroup info: vedic astrology/info.htmlTo UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology-....... May Jupiter's light shine on us ....... 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Guest guest Posted February 18, 2002 Report Share Posted February 18, 2002 Dear Ash, Saturn being the karaka for intelligence!!!!... you mentioned 6th lord has to be studied... am i on track by assuming that 6th house is for service and Saturn is the natural karaka for 6th house? or am i on a tangential course of thinking? Regards Katti Narahari - ashsam73 vedic astrology Sunday, February 17, 2002 4:02 AM [vedic astrology] Re: House for Degrees Bachelor's degree,Diplomas etc Hi Sanjay and Hari,If one gets a degree that increases the status of the person then 6th and 10th along with 5th house and their lords have to be studied as 6th house increases the status and 10th for profession this is from lagna. 5th house is for degree and 9th for advanced learning and spiritual learning. But before you dwelve into the degree, the intellegence of the person has to be gauged as success and failure would depend on it. The karak for intellegence is Saturn and if lagna lord, Sun and Moon are in the Saturnian sign in Navamsa, Drekkhana and Trimsamsa then the person can be very intellegent.4th house is for knowlege and 5th for degree.For an institute like SJVC, which does not give any degree, 12th house and 9th hosue would have to be studied for spirituality and higher learning.Sometimes we find that a person may be very intellegent but the dasa running at that point might now be favourable at all, though a person is inclined and wants to do say for example engineering but during the maturity of grade 12 marks and at the time of admission if the dasa running is not favourable then he may not get admission into a college, this can also be studied from Navamsa lords of 10th house from Sun, lagna and moon have to be studied and their respective strengths.What may be good education or level of education in one coutry may be different from the other, and this is also to be studied depending on the place one is in. Cheers !!!Ash--- In vedic astrology, "Katti Narahari" <katti_narahari@h...> wrote:> Om Guruve Namah.> > If you are talking of degrees and certificates, i think it;s A5.> > Hari> - > Sanjay Prabhakaran > To: vedic astrology > Sunday, February 17, 2002 12:22 AM> Subject: [vedic astrology] House for Degrees Bachelor's degree,Diplomas etc> > > Om Gurave Namah,> Dear Jyotishas,> Which house signifies Bachelor's degree like BE or B.Sc.,> I was usually looking in the 4th house, but should I look into 9th house for higher education. Bachelors degrees in science, commerce is so common in most cases in India that can we consider it as basic education?.> Master's degree can count in the 9th house. > What house to look for jyotisha studies like we have in SJVC, 9th house?.> > Regards> Sanjay Prabhakaran> > Sponsor > > > > > > Archives: vedic astrology> > Group info: vedic astrology/info.html> > To UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology-@e...> > ....... May Jupiter's light shine on us .......> > || Om Tat Sat || Sarvam Sri Krishnaarpanamastu || > > Your use of is subject to the Archives: vedic astrologyGroup info: vedic astrology/info.htmlTo UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology-....... May Jupiter's light shine on us ....... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 18, 2002 Report Share Posted February 18, 2002 Vyam Vysadevaya Namah ---------- Dear Katti, Partha and Ash, Sani isn't the Karaka for intelligence, but without sani's influence you won't become intelligent! This is the concept of the Tapaswi. Surya is the Karaka for all knowledge, brain and hence also intelligence. This is also the result of the Gayatri for Savitur(Surya). Best wishes, Visti. --- Katti Narahari <katti_narahari wrote: > Dear Ash, > > Saturn being the karaka for intelligence!!!!... you > mentioned 6th lord has to be studied... am i on > track by assuming that 6th house is for service and > Saturn is the natural karaka for 6th house? or am i > on a tangential course of thinking? > > Regards > > Katti Narahari > - > ashsam73 > vedic astrology > Sunday, February 17, 2002 4:02 AM > [vedic astrology] Re: House for Degrees > Bachelor's degree,Diplomas etc > > > Hi Sanjay and Hari, > > If one gets a degree that increases the status of > the person then > 6th and 10th along with 5th house and their lords > have to be studied > as 6th house increases the status and 10th for > profession this is > from lagna. 5th house is for degree and 9th for > advanced learning > and spiritual learning. But before you dwelve > into the degree, the > intellegence of the person has to be gauged as > success and failure > would depend on it. The karak for intellegence is > Saturn and if > lagna lord, Sun and Moon are in the Saturnian sign > in Navamsa, > Drekkhana and Trimsamsa then the person can be > very intellegent. > 4th house is for knowlege and 5th for degree. > For an institute like SJVC, which does not give > any degree, 12th > house and 9th hosue would have to be studied for > spirituality and > higher learning. > > Sometimes we find that a person may be very > intellegent but the dasa > running at that point might now be favourable at > all, though a > person is inclined and wants to do say for example > engineering but > during the maturity of grade 12 marks and at the > time of admission > if the dasa running is not favourable then he may > not get admission > into a college, this can also be studied from > Navamsa lords of 10th > house from Sun, lagna and moon have to be studied > and their > respective strengths. > > What may be good education or level of education > in one coutry may > be different from the other, and this is also to > be studied > depending on the place one is in. > > Cheers !!! > Ash > > > > vedic astrology, "Katti Narahari" > <katti_narahari@h...> > wrote: > > Om Guruve Namah. > > > > If you are talking of degrees and certificates, > i think it;s A5. > > > > Hari > > - > > Sanjay Prabhakaran > > vedic astrology > > Sunday, February 17, 2002 12:22 AM > > [vedic astrology] House for Degrees > Bachelor's > degree,Diplomas etc > > > > > > Om Gurave Namah, > > Dear Jyotishas, > > Which house signifies Bachelor's degree like > BE or B.Sc., > > I was usually looking in the 4th house, but > should I look into > 9th house for higher education. Bachelors degrees > in science, > commerce is so common in most cases in India that > can we consider it > as basic education?. > > Master's degree can count in the 9th house. > > What house to look for jyotisha studies like > we have in SJVC, > 9th house?. > > > > Regards > > Sanjay Prabhakaran > > > > Sponsor > > > > > > > > > > > > Archives: > vedic astrology > > > > Group info: > vedic- > astrology/info.html > > > > To UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to > vedic astrology-@e... > > > > ....... May Jupiter's light shine on us > ....... > > > > || Om Tat Sat || Sarvam Sri > Krishnaarpanamastu || > > > > Your use of is subject to the > Terms of > Service. > > > Archives: > vedic astrology > > Group info: > vedic astrology/info.html > > To UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to > vedic astrology- > > ....... May Jupiter's light shine on us ....... > > || Om Tat Sat || Sarvam Sri > Krishnaarpanamastu || > > > Terms of Service. > > Sports - Coverage of the 2002 Olympic Games http://sports. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 18, 2002 Report Share Posted February 18, 2002 OM, Dear list Saturn attributes logical thinking . Mars for creative ability. -sreekumar - Katti Narahari vedic astrology Monday, February 18, 2002 1:57 PM Re: [vedic astrology] Re: House for Degrees Bachelor's degree,Diplomas etc Dear Ash, Saturn being the karaka for intelligence!!!!... you mentioned 6th lord has to be studied... am i on track by assuming that 6th house is for service and Saturn is the natural karaka for 6th house? or am i on a tangential course of thinking? Regards Katti Narahari - ashsam73 vedic astrology Sunday, February 17, 2002 4:02 AM [vedic astrology] Re: House for Degrees Bachelor's degree,Diplomas etc Hi Sanjay and Hari,If one gets a degree that increases the status of the person then 6th and 10th along with 5th house and their lords have to be studied as 6th house increases the status and 10th for profession this is from lagna. 5th house is for degree and 9th for advanced learning and spiritual learning. But before you dwelve into the degree, the intellegence of the person has to be gauged as success and failure would depend on it. The karak for intellegence is Saturn and if lagna lord, Sun and Moon are in the Saturnian sign in Navamsa, Drekkhana and Trimsamsa then the person can be very intellegent.4th house is for knowlege and 5th for degree.For an institute like SJVC, which does not give any degree, 12th house and 9th hosue would have to be studied for spirituality and higher learning.Sometimes we find that a person may be very intellegent but the dasa running at that point might now be favourable at all, though a person is inclined and wants to do say for example engineering but during the maturity of grade 12 marks and at the time of admission if the dasa running is not favourable then he may not get admission into a college, this can also be studied from Navamsa lords of 10th house from Sun, lagna and moon have to be studied and their respective strengths.What may be good education or level of education in one coutry may be different from the other, and this is also to be studied depending on the place one is in. Cheers !!!Ash--- In vedic astrology, "Katti Narahari" <katti_narahari@h...> wrote:> Om Guruve Namah.> > If you are talking of degrees and certificates, i think it;s A5.> > Hari> - > Sanjay Prabhakaran > To: vedic astrology > Sunday, February 17, 2002 12:22 AM> Subject: [vedic astrology] House for Degrees Bachelor's degree,Diplomas etc> > > Om Gurave Namah,> Dear Jyotishas,> Which house signifies Bachelor's degree like BE or B.Sc.,> I was usually looking in the 4th house, but should I look into 9th house for higher education. Bachelors degrees in science, commerce is so common in most cases in India that can we consider it as basic education?.> Master's degree can count in the 9th house. > What house to look for jyotisha studies like we have in SJVC, 9th house?.> > Regards> Sanjay Prabhakaran> > Sponsor > > > > > > Archives: vedic astrology> > Group info: vedic astrology/info.html> > To UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology-@e...> > ....... May Jupiter's light shine on us .......> > || Om Tat Sat || Sarvam Sri Krishnaarpanamastu || > > Your use of is subject to the Archives: vedic astrologyGroup info: vedic astrology/info.htmlTo UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology-....... May Jupiter's light shine on us ....... Archives: vedic astrologyGroup info: vedic astrology/info.htmlTo UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology-....... May Jupiter's light shine on us ....... ____ Scanned and protected by email scanner Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 18, 2002 Report Share Posted February 18, 2002 Namaste Visti, I also read somewhere in BV Raman that Saturn in dignity can give highly retentive memory. Regards, Lakshmi Visti Larsen <in_joy_i_scream > wrote: Vyam Vysadevaya Namah----------Dear Katti, Partha and Ash,Sani isn't the Karaka for intelligence, but withoutsani's influence you won't become intelligent! This isthe concept of the Tapaswi.Surya is the Karaka for all knowledge, brain and hencealso intelligence. This is also the result of theGayatri for Savitur(Surya).Best wishes, Visti.--- Katti Narahari <katti_narahari (AT) hotmail (DOT) com> wrote:> Dear Ash,> > Saturn being the karaka for intelligence!!!!... you> mentioned 6th lord has to be studied... am i on> track by assuming that 6th house is for service and> Saturn is the natural karaka for 6th house? or am i> on a tangential course of thinking?> > Regards> > Katti Narahari> - > ashsam73 > To: vedic astrology > Sunday, February 17, 2002 4:02 AM> [vedic astrology] Re: House for Degrees> Bachelor's degree,Diplomas etc> > > Hi Sanjay and Hari,> > If one gets a degree that increases the status of> the person then > 6th and 10th along with 5th house and their lords> have to be studied > as 6th house increases the status and 10th for> profession this is > from lagna. 5th house is for degree and 9th for> advanced learning > and spiritual learning. But before you dwelve> into the degree, the > intellegence of the person has to be gauged as> success and failure > would depend on it. The karak for intellegence is> Saturn and if > lagna lord, Sun and Moon are in the Saturnian sign> in Navamsa, > Drekkhana and Trimsamsa then the person can be> very intellegent.> 4th house is for knowlege and 5th for degree.> For an institute like SJVC, which does not give> any degree, 12th > house and 9th hosue would have to be studied for> spirituality and > higher learning.> > Sometimes we find that a person may be very> intellegent but the dasa > running at that point might now be favourable at> all, though a > person is inclined and wants to do say for example> engineering but > during the maturity of grade 12 marks and at the> time of admission > if the dasa running is not favourable then he may> not get admission > into a college, this can also be studied from> Navamsa lords of 10th > house from Sun, lagna and moon have to be studied> and their > respective strengths.> > What may be good education or level of education> in one coutry may > be different from the other, and this is also to> be studied > depending on the place one is in. > > Cheers !!!> Ash> > > > --- In vedic astrology, "Katti Narahari"> <katti_narahari@h...> > wrote:> > Om Guruve Namah.> > > > If you are talking of degrees and certificates,> i think it;s A5.> > > > Hari> > - > > Sanjay Prabhakaran > > vedic astrology > > Sunday, February 17, 2002 12:22 AM> > [vedic astrology] House for Degrees> Bachelor's > degree,Diplomas etc> > > > > > Om Gurave Namah,> > Dear Jyotishas,> > Which house signifies Bachelor's degree like> BE or B.Sc.,> > I was usually looking in the 4th house, but> should I look into > 9th house for higher education. Bachelors degrees> in science, > commerce is so common in most cases in India that> can we consider it > as basic education?.> > Master's degree can count in the 9th house. > > What house to look for jyotisha studies like> we have in SJVC, > 9th house?.> > > > Regards> > Sanjay Prabhakaran> > > > Sponsor > > > > > > > > > > > > Archives:> vedic astrology> > > > Group info:> vedic-> astrology/info.html> > > > To UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to> vedic astrology-@e...> > > > ....... May Jupiter's light shine on us> .......> > > > || Om Tat Sat || Sarvam Sri> Krishnaarpanamastu || > > > > Your use of is subject to the> Terms of > Service.> > > Archives:> vedic astrology> > Group info:>vedic astrology/info.html> > To UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to> vedic astrology-> > > > || Om Tat Sat || Sarvam Sri> Krishnaarpanamastu || > > Your use of is subject to the > Terms of Service. > > Sports - Coverage of the 2002 Olympic Gameshttp://sports.Archives: vedic astrologyGroup info: vedic astrology/info.htmlTo UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology-....... May Jupiter's light shine on us ....... Do You ? Sports - Coverage of the 2002 Olympic Games Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 18, 2002 Report Share Posted February 18, 2002 Vyam Vysadevaya Namah --------------- Dear List, Saturn is good for retentive memory yes. Mars is for logical thinking, Mercury for learning ability. Jupiter for teaching, Venus for creativity, etc. Best wishes, Visti. --- lakshmi ramesh <b_lakshmi_ramesh wrote: > > Om Gurave Namah > Namaste Visti, > I also read somewhere in BV Raman that Saturn in > dignity can give highly retentive memory. > Regards, > Lakshmi > Visti Larsen <in_joy_i_scream wrote: > Vyam Vysadevaya Namah > ---------- > Dear Katti, Partha and Ash, > > Sani isn't the Karaka for intelligence, but without > sani's influence you won't become intelligent! This > is > the concept of the Tapaswi. > > Surya is the Karaka for all knowledge, brain and > hence > also intelligence. This is also the result of the > Gayatri for Savitur(Surya). > > Best wishes, Visti. > > --- Katti Narahari <katti_narahari > wrote: > > Dear Ash, > > > > Saturn being the karaka for intelligence!!!!... > you > > mentioned 6th lord has to be studied... am i on > > track by assuming that 6th house is for service > and > > Saturn is the natural karaka for 6th house? or am > i > > on a tangential course of thinking? > > > > Regards > > > > Katti Narahari > > - > > ashsam73 > > vedic astrology > > Sunday, February 17, 2002 4:02 AM > > [vedic astrology] Re: House for Degrees > > Bachelor's degree,Diplomas etc > > > > > > Hi Sanjay and Hari, > > > > If one gets a degree that increases the status > of > > the person then > > 6th and 10th along with 5th house and their > lords > > have to be studied > > as 6th house increases the status and 10th for > > profession this is > > from lagna. 5th house is for degree and 9th for > > advanced learning > > and spiritual learning. But before you dwelve > > into the degree, the > > intellegence of the person has to be gauged as > > success and failure > > would depend on it. The karak for intellegence > is > > Saturn and if > > lagna lord, Sun and Moon are in the Saturnian > sign > > in Navamsa, > > Drekkhana and Trimsamsa then the person can be > > very intellegent. > > 4th house is for knowlege and 5th for degree. > > For an institute like SJVC, which does not give > > any degree, 12th > > house and 9th hosue would have to be studied for > > spirituality and > > higher learning. > > > > Sometimes we find that a person may be very > > intellegent but the dasa > > running at that point might now be favourable at > > all, though a > > person is inclined and wants to do say for > example > > engineering but > > during the maturity of grade 12 marks and at the > > time of admission > > if the dasa running is not favourable then he > may > > not get admission > > into a college, this can also be studied from > > Navamsa lords of 10th > > house from Sun, lagna and moon have to be > studied > > and their > > respective strengths. > > > > What may be good education or level of education > > in one coutry may > > be different from the other, and this is also to > > be studied > > depending on the place one is in. > > > > Cheers !!! > > Ash > > > > > > > > vedic astrology, "Katti Narahari" > > <katti_narahari@h...> > > wrote: > > > Om Guruve Namah. > > > > > > If you are talking of degrees and > certificates, > > i think it;s A5. > > > > > > Hari > > > - > > > Sanjay Prabhakaran > > > vedic astrology > > > Sunday, February 17, 2002 12:22 AM > > > [vedic astrology] House for Degrees > > Bachelor's > > degree,Diplomas etc > > > > > > > > > Om Gurave Namah, > > > Dear Jyotishas, > > > Which house signifies Bachelor's degree > like > > BE or B.Sc., > > > I was usually looking in the 4th house, but > > should I look into > > 9th house for higher education. Bachelors > degrees > > in science, > > commerce is so common in most cases in India > that > > can we consider it > > as basic education?. > > > Master's degree can count in the 9th house. > > > What house to look for jyotisha studies like > > we have in SJVC, > > 9th house?. > > > > > > Regards > > > Sanjay Prabhakaran > > > > > > Sponsor > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Archives: > > vedic astrology > > > > > > Group info: > > vedic- > > astrology/info.html > > > > > > To UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to > > vedic astrology-@e... > > > > > > ....... May Jupiter's light shine on us > > ....... > > > > > > || Om Tat Sat || Sarvam Sri > > Krishnaarpanamastu || > > > > > > Your use of is subject to the > > Terms of > > Service. > > > > > > Archives: > > vedic astrology > > > > Group info: > > > vedic astrology/info.html > > > > To UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to > > vedic astrology- > > > > ....... May Jupiter's light shine on us ....... > > > > || Om Tat Sat || Sarvam Sri > > Krishnaarpanamastu || > > > > Your use of is subject to the > > > Terms of Service. > > > > > > > > > === message truncated === Sports - Coverage of the 2002 Olympic Games http://sports. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 18, 2002 Report Share Posted February 18, 2002 Dear Hari and Visti, Shani is the natural karak of the 4th house and for knowledge. Jupiter is the naturak karak for 5th house or degree or education (graduate). Cheers !!! Ash vedic astrology, Visti Larsen <in_joy_i_scream> wrote: > Vyam Vysadevaya Namah > ---------- > Dear Katti, Partha and Ash, > > Sani isn't the Karaka for intelligence, but without > sani's influence you won't become intelligent! This is > the concept of the Tapaswi. > > Surya is the Karaka for all knowledge, brain and hence > also intelligence. This is also the result of the > Gayatri for Savitur(Surya). > > Best wishes, Visti. > > --- Katti Narahari <katti_narahari@h...> wrote: > > Dear Ash, > > > > Saturn being the karaka for intelligence!!!!... you > > mentioned 6th lord has to be studied... am i on > > track by assuming that 6th house is for service and > > Saturn is the natural karaka for 6th house? or am i > > on a tangential course of thinking? > > > > Regards > > > > Katti Narahari > > - > > ashsam73 > > vedic astrology > > Sunday, February 17, 2002 4:02 AM > > [vedic astrology] Re: House for Degrees > > Bachelor's degree,Diplomas etc > > > > > > Hi Sanjay and Hari, > > > > If one gets a degree that increases the status of > > the person then > > 6th and 10th along with 5th house and their lords > > have to be studied > > as 6th house increases the status and 10th for > > profession this is > > from lagna. 5th house is for degree and 9th for > > advanced learning > > and spiritual learning. But before you dwelve > > into the degree, the > > intellegence of the person has to be gauged as > > success and failure > > would depend on it. The karak for intellegence is > > Saturn and if > > lagna lord, Sun and Moon are in the Saturnian sign > > in Navamsa, > > Drekkhana and Trimsamsa then the person can be > > very intellegent. > > 4th house is for knowlege and 5th for degree. > > For an institute like SJVC, which does not give > > any degree, 12th > > house and 9th hosue would have to be studied for > > spirituality and > > higher learning. > > > > Sometimes we find that a person may be very > > intellegent but the dasa > > running at that point might now be favourable at > > all, though a > > person is inclined and wants to do say for example > > engineering but > > during the maturity of grade 12 marks and at the > > time of admission > > if the dasa running is not favourable then he may > > not get admission > > into a college, this can also be studied from > > Navamsa lords of 10th > > house from Sun, lagna and moon have to be studied > > and their > > respective strengths. > > > > What may be good education or level of education > > in one coutry may > > be different from the other, and this is also to > > be studied > > depending on the place one is in. > > > > Cheers !!! > > Ash > > > > > > > > vedic astrology, "Katti Narahari" > > <katti_narahari@h...> > > wrote: > > > Om Guruve Namah. > > > > > > If you are talking of degrees and certificates, > > i think it;s A5. > > > > > > Hari > > > - > > > Sanjay Prabhakaran > > > vedic astrology > > > Sunday, February 17, 2002 12:22 AM > > > [vedic astrology] House for Degrees > > Bachelor's > > degree,Diplomas etc > > > > > > > > > Om Gurave Namah, > > > Dear Jyotishas, > > > Which house signifies Bachelor's degree like > > BE or B.Sc., > > > I was usually looking in the 4th house, but > > should I look into > > 9th house for higher education. Bachelors degrees > > in science, > > commerce is so common in most cases in India that > > can we consider it > > as basic education?. > > > Master's degree can count in the 9th house. > > > What house to look for jyotisha studies like > > we have in SJVC, > > 9th house?. > > > > > > Regards > > > Sanjay Prabhakaran > > > > > > Sponsor > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Archives: > > vedic astrology > > > > > > Group info: > > vedic- > > astrology/info.html > > > > > > To UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to > > vedic astrology-@e... > > > > > > ....... May Jupiter's light shine on us > > ....... > > > > > > || Om Tat Sat || Sarvam Sri > > Krishnaarpanamastu || > > > > > > Your use of is subject to the > > Terms of > > Service. > > > > > > Archives: > > vedic astrology > > > > Group info: > > > vedic astrology/info.html > > > > To UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to > > vedic astrology-@e... > > > > ....... May Jupiter's light shine on us ....... > > > > || Om Tat Sat || Sarvam Sri > > Krishnaarpanamastu || > > > > > > Terms of Service. > > > > > > > > > Sports - Coverage of the 2002 Olympic Games > http://sports. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 18, 2002 Report Share Posted February 18, 2002 Hi Hari, Saturn is Natural Karak for 4th house. If one gets an educational degree that enhances their personal status like a promotion, more power in working environment etc, then 6th house and its lord is responsible for professional status being 9th from 10th house and 6th from lagna. This also should be studied from Moon (as to how you feel from your mind) and from Sun (which might show how you feel from the atma or the soul) 5th house is for degree and 9th for advanced degree. Yes you are right in saying that 6th house indicates service, but it also indicates personal status. Mars is the natural karak for the 6th house, being 8th from natural 6th house. For a chart the functional karak is the 8th house and its lord from the house under consideration. When will the event take place and the quality of the event is a diffent story all together ? Cheers !!! Ash vedic astrology, "Katti Narahari" <katti_narahari@h...> wrote: > Dear Ash, > > Saturn being the karaka for intelligence!!!!... you mentioned 6th lord has to be studied... am i on track by assuming that 6th house is for service and Saturn is the natural karaka for 6th house? or am i on a tangential course of thinking? > > Regards > > Katti Narahari > - > ashsam73 > vedic astrology > Sunday, February 17, 2002 4:02 AM > [vedic astrology] Re: House for Degrees Bachelor's degree,Diplomas etc > > > Hi Sanjay and Hari, > > If one gets a degree that increases the status of the person then > 6th and 10th along with 5th house and their lords have to be studied > as 6th house increases the status and 10th for profession this is > from lagna. 5th house is for degree and 9th for advanced learning > and spiritual learning. But before you dwelve into the degree, the > intellegence of the person has to be gauged as success and failure > would depend on it. The karak for intellegence is Saturn and if > lagna lord, Sun and Moon are in the Saturnian sign in Navamsa, > Drekkhana and Trimsamsa then the person can be very intellegent. > 4th house is for knowlege and 5th for degree. > For an institute like SJVC, which does not give any degree, 12th > house and 9th hosue would have to be studied for spirituality and > higher learning. > > Sometimes we find that a person may be very intellegent but the dasa > running at that point might now be favourable at all, though a > person is inclined and wants to do say for example engineering but > during the maturity of grade 12 marks and at the time of admission > if the dasa running is not favourable then he may not get admission > into a college, this can also be studied from Navamsa lords of 10th > house from Sun, lagna and moon have to be studied and their > respective strengths. > > What may be good education or level of education in one coutry may > be different from the other, and this is also to be studied > depending on the place one is in. > > Cheers !!! > Ash > > > > vedic astrology, "Katti Narahari" <katti_narahari@h...> > wrote: > > Om Guruve Namah. > > > > If you are talking of degrees and certificates, i think it;s A5. > > > > Hari > > - > > Sanjay Prabhakaran > > vedic astrology > > Sunday, February 17, 2002 12:22 AM > > [vedic astrology] House for Degrees Bachelor's > degree,Diplomas etc > > > > > > Om Gurave Namah, > > Dear Jyotishas, > > Which house signifies Bachelor's degree like BE or B.Sc., > > I was usually looking in the 4th house, but should I look into > 9th house for higher education. Bachelors degrees in science, > commerce is so common in most cases in India that can we consider it > as basic education?. > > Master's degree can count in the 9th house. > > What house to look for jyotisha studies like we have in SJVC, > 9th house?. > > > > Regards > > Sanjay Prabhakaran > > > > Sponsor > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Group info: vedic- > astrology/info.html > > > > To UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology-@e... > > > > ....... May Jupiter's light shine on us ....... > > > > > > > > Terms of > Service. > > > > > > > To UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology-@e... > > ....... May Jupiter's light shine on us ....... > > > > Terms of Service. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 18, 2002 Report Share Posted February 18, 2002 om gurave namah ------------------------ Dear Ash Is everything OK with you? last time you wrote saturn is karak for intelligence and not you say it is karak for fourth house!! I guesws we all need a break. Some fresh air can do you good after this long winter. I'll write later but do take this advise from a well wisher. With best wishes Sanjay Rath Web: http://sanjayrath.tripod.com Services: http://sanjayrath.tripod.com/zservices.htm Jyotish Digest: http://jyotishdigest.com/ SJVC: http://www.sjvc.org/ - "ashsam73" <ashsam73 <vedic astrology> Monday, February 18, 2002 10:48 PM [vedic astrology] Re: House for Degrees Bachelor's degree,Diplomas etc Hi Hari, Saturn is Natural Karak for 4th house. If one gets an educational degree that enhances their personal status like a promotion, more power in working environment etc, then 6th house and its lord is responsible for professional status being 9th from 10th house and 6th from lagna. This also should be studied from Moon (as to how you feel from your mind) and from Sun (which might show how you feel from the atma or the soul) 5th house is for degree and 9th for advanced degree. Yes you are right in saying that 6th house indicates service, but it also indicates personal status. Mars is the natural karak for the 6th house, being 8th from natural 6th house. For a chart the functional karak is the 8th house and its lord from the house under consideration. When will the event take place and the quality of the event is a diffent story all together ? Cheers !!! Ash vedic astrology, "Katti Narahari" <katti_narahari@h...> wrote: > Dear Ash, > > Saturn being the karaka for intelligence!!!!... you mentioned 6th lord has to be studied... am i on track by assuming that 6th house is for service and Saturn is the natural karaka for 6th house? or am i on a tangential course of thinking? > > Regards > > Katti Narahari > - > ashsam73 > vedic astrology > Sunday, February 17, 2002 4:02 AM > [vedic astrology] Re: House for Degrees Bachelor's degree,Diplomas etc > > > Hi Sanjay and Hari, > > If one gets a degree that increases the status of the person then > 6th and 10th along with 5th house and their lords have to be studied > as 6th house increases the status and 10th for profession this is > from lagna. 5th house is for degree and 9th for advanced learning > and spiritual learning. But before you dwelve into the degree, the > intellegence of the person has to be gauged as success and failure > would depend on it. The karak for intellegence is Saturn and if > lagna lord, Sun and Moon are in the Saturnian sign in Navamsa, > Drekkhana and Trimsamsa then the person can be very intellegent. > 4th house is for knowlege and 5th for degree. > For an institute like SJVC, which does not give any degree, 12th > house and 9th hosue would have to be studied for spirituality and > higher learning. > > Sometimes we find that a person may be very intellegent but the dasa > running at that point might now be favourable at all, though a > person is inclined and wants to do say for example engineering but > during the maturity of grade 12 marks and at the time of admission > if the dasa running is not favourable then he may not get admission > into a college, this can also be studied from Navamsa lords of 10th > house from Sun, lagna and moon have to be studied and their > respective strengths. > > What may be good education or level of education in one coutry may > be different from the other, and this is also to be studied > depending on the place one is in. > > Cheers !!! > Ash > > > > vedic astrology, "Katti Narahari" <katti_narahari@h...> > wrote: > > Om Guruve Namah. > > > > If you are talking of degrees and certificates, i think it;s A5. > > > > Hari > > - > > Sanjay Prabhakaran > > vedic astrology > > Sunday, February 17, 2002 12:22 AM > > [vedic astrology] House for Degrees Bachelor's > degree,Diplomas etc > > > > > > Om Gurave Namah, > > Dear Jyotishas, > > Which house signifies Bachelor's degree like BE or B.Sc., > > I was usually looking in the 4th house, but should I look into > 9th house for higher education. Bachelors degrees in science, > commerce is so common in most cases in India that can we consider it > as basic education?. > > Master's degree can count in the 9th house. > > What house to look for jyotisha studies like we have in SJVC, > 9th house?. > > > > Regards > > Sanjay Prabhakaran > > > > Sponsor > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Group info: vedic- > astrology/info.html > > > > To UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology-@e... > > > > ....... May Jupiter's light shine on us ....... > > > > > > > > Terms of > Service. > > > > > > > To UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology-@e... > > ....... May Jupiter's light shine on us ....... > > > > Terms of Service. Your use of is subject to Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 18, 2002 Report Share Posted February 18, 2002 om gurave namah ------------------------ Dear Visti What is going on? Since when did Saturn give retentive memory? Jupiter is the memory and if guru is in Simhalokamsa the person shall have such a powerful memory that he shall remember his past 3 lives! (Thats a sloka) Now Saturn causes debility of Jupiter and loss of memory. I guess we all need a break. With best wishes Sanjay Rath Web: http://sanjayrath.tripod.com Services: http://sanjayrath.tripod.com/zservices.htm Jyotish Digest: http://jyotishdigest.com/ SJVC: http://www.sjvc.org/ - "Visti Larsen" <in_joy_i_scream <vedic astrology> Monday, February 18, 2002 4:44 PM Re: [vedic astrology] Re: House for Degrees Bachelor's degree,Diplomas etc Vyam Vysadevaya Namah --------------- Dear List, Saturn is good for retentive memory yes. Mars is for logical thinking, Mercury for learning ability. Jupiter for teaching, Venus for creativity, etc. Best wishes, Visti. --- lakshmi ramesh <b_lakshmi_ramesh wrote: > > Om Gurave Namah > Namaste Visti, > I also read somewhere in BV Raman that Saturn in > dignity can give highly retentive memory. > Regards, > Lakshmi > Visti Larsen <in_joy_i_scream wrote: > Vyam Vysadevaya Namah > ---------- > Dear Katti, Partha and Ash, > > Sani isn't the Karaka for intelligence, but without > sani's influence you won't become intelligent! This > is > the concept of the Tapaswi. > > Surya is the Karaka for all knowledge, brain and > hence > also intelligence. This is also the result of the > Gayatri for Savitur(Surya). > > Best wishes, Visti. > > --- Katti Narahari <katti_narahari > wrote: > > Dear Ash, > > > > Saturn being the karaka for intelligence!!!!... > you > > mentioned 6th lord has to be studied... am i on > > track by assuming that 6th house is for service > and > > Saturn is the natural karaka for 6th house? or am > i > > on a tangential course of thinking? > > > > Regards > > > > Katti Narahari > > - > > ashsam73 > > vedic astrology > > Sunday, February 17, 2002 4:02 AM > > [vedic astrology] Re: House for Degrees > > Bachelor's degree,Diplomas etc > > > > > > Hi Sanjay and Hari, > > > > If one gets a degree that increases the status > of > > the person then > > 6th and 10th along with 5th house and their > lords > > have to be studied > > as 6th house increases the status and 10th for > > profession this is > > from lagna. 5th house is for degree and 9th for > > advanced learning > > and spiritual learning. But before you dwelve > > into the degree, the > > intellegence of the person has to be gauged as > > success and failure > > would depend on it. The karak for intellegence > is > > Saturn and if > > lagna lord, Sun and Moon are in the Saturnian > sign > > in Navamsa, > > Drekkhana and Trimsamsa then the person can be > > very intellegent. > > 4th house is for knowlege and 5th for degree. > > For an institute like SJVC, which does not give > > any degree, 12th > > house and 9th hosue would have to be studied for > > spirituality and > > higher learning. > > > > Sometimes we find that a person may be very > > intellegent but the dasa > > running at that point might now be favourable at > > all, though a > > person is inclined and wants to do say for > example > > engineering but > > during the maturity of grade 12 marks and at the > > time of admission > > if the dasa running is not favourable then he > may > > not get admission > > into a college, this can also be studied from > > Navamsa lords of 10th > > house from Sun, lagna and moon have to be > studied > > and their > > respective strengths. > > > > What may be good education or level of education > > in one coutry may > > be different from the other, and this is also to > > be studied > > depending on the place one is in. > > > > Cheers !!! > > Ash > > > > > > > > vedic astrology, "Katti Narahari" > > <katti_narahari@h...> > > wrote: > > > Om Guruve Namah. > > > > > > If you are talking of degrees and > certificates, > > i think it;s A5. > > > > > > Hari > > > - > > > Sanjay Prabhakaran > > > vedic astrology > > > Sunday, February 17, 2002 12:22 AM > > > [vedic astrology] House for Degrees > > Bachelor's > > degree,Diplomas etc > > > > > > > > > Om Gurave Namah, > > > Dear Jyotishas, > > > Which house signifies Bachelor's degree > like > > BE or B.Sc., > > > I was usually looking in the 4th house, but > > should I look into > > 9th house for higher education. Bachelors > degrees > > in science, > > commerce is so common in most cases in India > that > > can we consider it > > as basic education?. > > > Master's degree can count in the 9th house. > > > What house to look for jyotisha studies like > > we have in SJVC, > > 9th house?. > > > > > > Regards > > > Sanjay Prabhakaran > > > > > > Sponsor > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Archives: > > vedic astrology > > > > > > Group info: > > vedic- > > astrology/info.html > > > > > > To UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to > > vedic astrology-@e... > > > > > > ....... May Jupiter's light shine on us > > ....... > > > > > > || Om Tat Sat || Sarvam Sri > > Krishnaarpanamastu || > > > > > > Your use of is subject to the > > Terms of > > Service. > > > > > > Archives: > > vedic astrology > > > > Group info: > > > vedic astrology/info.html > > > > To UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to > > vedic astrology- > > > > ....... 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Guest guest Posted February 18, 2002 Report Share Posted February 18, 2002 om gurave namah------------------------Dear Lakshmi Please stop quoting Dr Raman like that. Give the reference if you have it. I cannot believe that Dr Raman could have said such a thing.With best wishesSanjay RathWeb: http://sanjayrath.tripod.comServices: http://sanjayrath.tripod.com/zservices.htmJyotish Digest: http://jyotishdigest.com/SJVC: http://www.sjvc.org/ - lakshmi ramesh vedic astrology Monday, February 18, 2002 4:38 PM Re: [vedic astrology] Re: House for Degrees Bachelor's degree,Diplomas etc Om Gurave Namah Namaste Visti, I also read somewhere in BV Raman that Saturn in dignity can give highly retentive memory. Regards, Lakshmi Visti Larsen <in_joy_i_scream > wrote: Vyam Vysadevaya Namah----------Dear Katti, Partha and Ash,Sani isn't the Karaka for intelligence, but withoutsani's influence you won't become intelligent! This isthe concept of the Tapaswi.Surya is the Karaka for all knowledge, brain and hencealso intelligence. This is also the result of theGayatri for Savitur(Surya).Best wishes, Visti.--- Katti Narahari <katti_narahari (AT) hotmail (DOT) com> wrote:> Dear Ash,> > Saturn being the karaka for intelligence!!!!... you> mentioned 6th lord has to be studied... am i on> track by assuming that 6th house is for service and> Saturn is the natural karaka for 6th house? or am i> on a tangential course of thinking?> > Regards> > Katti Narahari> - > ashsam73 > To: vedic astrology > Sunday, February 17, 2002 4:02 AM> [vedic astrology] Re: House for Degrees> Bachelor's degree,Diplomas etc> > > Hi Sanjay and Hari,> > If one gets a degree that increases the status of> the person then > 6th and 10th along with 5th house and their lords> have to be studied > as 6th house increases the status and 10th for> profession this is > from lagna. 5th house is for degree and 9th for> advanced learning > and spiritual learning. But before you dwelve> into the degree, the > intellegence of the person has to be gauged as> success and failure > would depend on it. The karak for intellegence is> Saturn and if > lagna lord, Sun and Moon are in the Saturnian sign> in Navamsa, > Drekkhana and Trimsamsa then the person can be> very intellegent.> 4th house is for knowlege and 5th for degree.> For an institute like SJVC, which does not give> any degree, 12th > house and 9th hosue would have to be studied for> spirituality and > higher learning.> > Sometimes we find that a person may be very> intellegent but the dasa > running at that point might now be favourable at> all, though a > person is inclined and wants to do say for example> engineering but > during the maturity of grade 12 marks and at the> time of admission > if the dasa running is not favourable then he may> not get admission > into a college, this can also be studied from> Navamsa lords of 10th > house from Sun, lagna and moon have to be studied> and their > respective strengths.> > What may be good education or level of education> in one coutry may > be different from the other, and this is also to> be studied > depending on the place one is in. > > Cheers !!!> Ash> > > > --- In vedic astrology, "Katti Narahari"> <katti_narahari@h...> > wrote:> > Om Guruve Namah.> > > > If you are talking of degrees and certificates,> i think it;s A5.> > > > Hari> > - > > Sanjay Prabhakaran > > vedic astrology > > Sunday, February 17, 2002 12:22 AM> > [vedic astrology] House for Degrees> Bachelor's > degree,Diplomas etc> > > > > > Om Gurave Namah,> > Dear Jyotishas,> > Which house signifies Bachelor's degree like> BE or B.Sc.,> > I was usually looking in the 4th house, but> should I look into > 9th house for higher education. Bachelors degrees> in science, > commerce is so common in most cases in India that> can we consider it > as basic education?.> > Master's degree can count in the 9th house. > > What house to look for jyotisha studies like> we have in SJVC, > 9th house?.> > > > Regards> > Sanjay Prabhakaran> > > > Sponsor > > > > > > > > > > > > Archives:> vedic astrology> > > > Group info:> vedic-> astrology/info.html> > > > To UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to> vedic astrology-@e...> > > > ....... 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Guest guest Posted February 18, 2002 Report Share Posted February 18, 2002 Vyam Vysadevaya Namah -------------------- Dear Gurudeva, Namaste. Saturn would give the hard-working drive to attain knowledge. When Moon is associated with Saturn, the person dwelves on subjects for a long time, and hence the repetitive effect. This is my reasoning, and i didn't differ in other areas. Offcourse without Jupiters strength the person would forget what they were thinking about quite quickly, and make a bad teacher..This is FAR from the fact with you, oh Great Simhasan Guru, who is in constant meditation. Is this the great blessing of Gayatri? Yes i need a break, and renewed energy and direction Its hard to see your goals in sight with Saturn and Rahu in the 7th. Best wishes, Visti. --- Sanjay Rath <srath wrote: > > om gurave namah > ------------------------ > Dear Visti > What is going on? Since when did Saturn give > retentive memory? Jupiter is > the memory and if guru is in Simhalokamsa the person > shall have such a > powerful memory that he shall remember his past 3 > lives! (Thats a sloka) Now > Saturn causes debility of Jupiter and loss of > memory. I guess we all need a > break. > With best wishes > Sanjay Rath > Web: http://sanjayrath.tripod.com > Services: http://sanjayrath.tripod.com/zservices.htm > Jyotish Digest: http://jyotishdigest.com/ > SJVC: http://www.sjvc.org/ > - > "Visti Larsen" <in_joy_i_scream > <vedic astrology> > Monday, February 18, 2002 4:44 PM > Re: [vedic astrology] Re: House for Degrees > Bachelor's > degree,Diplomas etc > > > Vyam Vysadevaya Namah > --------------- > Dear List, > Saturn is good for retentive memory yes. > > Mars is for logical thinking, Mercury for learning > ability. Jupiter for teaching, Venus for creativity, > etc. > > Best wishes, Visti. > > --- lakshmi ramesh <b_lakshmi_ramesh > wrote: > > > > Om Gurave Namah > > Namaste Visti, > > I also read somewhere in BV Raman that Saturn in > > dignity can give highly retentive memory. > > Regards, > > Lakshmi > > Visti Larsen <in_joy_i_scream wrote: > > Vyam Vysadevaya Namah > > ---------- > > Dear Katti, Partha and Ash, > > > > Sani isn't the Karaka for intelligence, but > without > > sani's influence you won't become intelligent! > This > > is > > the concept of the Tapaswi. > > > > Surya is the Karaka for all knowledge, brain and > > hence > > also intelligence. This is also the result of the > > Gayatri for Savitur(Surya). > > > > Best wishes, Visti. > > > > --- Katti Narahari <katti_narahari > > wrote: > > > Dear Ash, > > > > > > Saturn being the karaka for intelligence!!!!... > > you > > > mentioned 6th lord has to be studied... am i on > > > track by assuming that 6th house is for service > > and > > > Saturn is the natural karaka for 6th house? or > am > > i > > > on a tangential course of thinking? > > > > > > Regards > > > > > > Katti Narahari > > > - > > > ashsam73 > > > vedic astrology > > > Sunday, February 17, 2002 4:02 AM > > > [vedic astrology] Re: House for > Degrees > > > Bachelor's degree,Diplomas etc > > > > > > > > > Hi Sanjay and Hari, > > > > > > If one gets a degree that increases the status > > of > > > the person then > > > 6th and 10th along with 5th house and their > > lords > > > have to be studied > > > as 6th house increases the status and 10th for > > > profession this is > > > from lagna. 5th house is for degree and 9th > for > > > advanced learning > > > and spiritual learning. But before you dwelve > > > into the degree, the > > > intellegence of the person has to be gauged as > > > success and failure > > > would depend on it. The karak for > intellegence > > is > > > Saturn and if > > > lagna lord, Sun and Moon are in the Saturnian > > sign > > > in Navamsa, > > > Drekkhana and Trimsamsa then the person can be > > > very intellegent. > > > 4th house is for knowlege and 5th for degree. > > > For an institute like SJVC, which does not > give > > > any degree, 12th > > > house and 9th hosue would have to be studied > for > > > spirituality and > > > higher learning. > > > > > > Sometimes we find that a person may be very > > > intellegent but the dasa > > > running at that point might now be favourable > at > > > all, though a > > > person is inclined and wants to do say for > > example > > > engineering but > > > during the maturity of grade 12 marks and at > the > > > time of admission > > > if the dasa running is not favourable then he > > may > > > not get admission > > > into a college, this can also be studied from > > > Navamsa lords of 10th > > > house from Sun, lagna and moon have to be > > studied > > > and their > > > respective strengths. > > > > > > What may be good education or level of > education > > > in one coutry may > > > be different from the other, and this is also > to > > > be studied > > > depending on the place one is in. > > > > > > Cheers !!! > > > Ash > > > > > > > > > > > > vedic astrology, "Katti Narahari" > > > <katti_narahari@h...> > > > wrote: > > > > Om Guruve Namah. > > > > > > > > If you are talking of degrees and > > certificates, > > > i think it;s A5. > > > > > > > > Hari > > > > - > > > > Sanjay Prabhakaran > > > > vedic astrology > > > > Sunday, February 17, 2002 12:22 AM > > > > [vedic astrology] House for > Degrees > > > Bachelor's > > > degree,Diplomas etc > > > > > > > > > > > > Om Gurave Namah, > > > > Dear Jyotishas, > > > > Which house signifies Bachelor's degree > > like > > > BE or B.Sc., > > > > I was usually looking in the 4th house, > but > > > should I look into > > > 9th house for higher education. Bachelors > > degrees > > > in science, > > > commerce is so common in most cases in India > > that > > > can we consider it > > > as basic education?. > > > > Master's degree can count in the 9th > house. > > > > What house to look for jyotisha studies > like > === message truncated === Sports - Coverage of the 2002 Olympic Games http://sports. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 18, 2002 Report Share Posted February 18, 2002 Dear Sanjay, I didn't want to comment before you, but I was stunned with such information from Visti whose rapid progress impressed me a lot. Finally, a rigth word. Chandra causes exaltation of Guru so she would aslo promote memory. For instance, I have chandra in cancer nearly full (shukla paksha) and Guru is strong in 10th being also vakra. It is enough that I once glance at a chart, and I will memorize it for good. I think I can remember all charts I have seen so far. Best wishes, Zoran Sanjay Rath wrote: > om gurave namah > ------------------------ > Dear Visti > What is going on? Since when did Saturn give retentive memory? Jupiter is > the memory and if guru is in Simhalokamsa the person shall have such a > powerful memory that he shall remember his past 3 lives! (Thats a sloka) Now > Saturn causes debility of Jupiter and loss of memory. I guess we all need a > break. > With best wishes > Sanjay Rath > Web: http://sanjayrath.tripod.com > Services: http://sanjayrath.tripod.com/zservices.htm > Jyotish Digest: http://jyotishdigest.com/ > SJVC: http://www.sjvc.org/ > - > "Visti Larsen" <in_joy_i_scream > <vedic astrology> > Monday, February 18, 2002 4:44 PM > Re: [vedic astrology] Re: House for Degrees Bachelor's > degree,Diplomas etc > > Vyam Vysadevaya Namah > --------------- > Dear List, > Saturn is good for retentive memory yes. > > Mars is for logical thinking, Mercury for learning > ability. Jupiter for teaching, Venus for creativity, > etc. > > Best wishes, Visti. > > --- lakshmi ramesh <b_lakshmi_ramesh wrote: > > > > Om Gurave Namah > > Namaste Visti, > > I also read somewhere in BV Raman that Saturn in > > dignity can give highly retentive memory. > > Regards, > > Lakshmi > > Visti Larsen <in_joy_i_scream wrote: > > Vyam Vysadevaya Namah > > ---------- > > Dear Katti, Partha and Ash, > > > > Sani isn't the Karaka for intelligence, but without > > sani's influence you won't become intelligent! This > > is > > the concept of the Tapaswi. > > > > Surya is the Karaka for all knowledge, brain and > > hence > > also intelligence. This is also the result of the > > Gayatri for Savitur(Surya). > > > > Best wishes, Visti. > > > > --- Katti Narahari <katti_narahari > > wrote: > > > Dear Ash, > > > > > > Saturn being the karaka for intelligence!!!!... > > you > > > mentioned 6th lord has to be studied... am i on > > > track by assuming that 6th house is for service > > and > > > Saturn is the natural karaka for 6th house? or am > > i > > > on a tangential course of thinking? > > > > > > Regards > > > > > > Katti Narahari > > > - > > > ashsam73 > > > vedic astrology > > > Sunday, February 17, 2002 4:02 AM > > > [vedic astrology] Re: House for Degrees > > > Bachelor's degree,Diplomas etc > > > > > > > > > Hi Sanjay and Hari, > > > > > > If one gets a degree that increases the status > > of > > > the person then > > > 6th and 10th along with 5th house and their > > lords > > > have to be studied > > > as 6th house increases the status and 10th for > > > profession this is > > > from lagna. 5th house is for degree and 9th for > > > advanced learning > > > and spiritual learning. But before you dwelve > > > into the degree, the > > > intellegence of the person has to be gauged as > > > success and failure > > > would depend on it. The karak for intellegence > > is > > > Saturn and if > > > lagna lord, Sun and Moon are in the Saturnian > > sign > > > in Navamsa, > > > Drekkhana and Trimsamsa then the person can be > > > very intellegent. > > > 4th house is for knowlege and 5th for degree. > > > For an institute like SJVC, which does not give > > > any degree, 12th > > > house and 9th hosue would have to be studied for > > > spirituality and > > > higher learning. > > > > > > Sometimes we find that a person may be very > > > intellegent but the dasa > > > running at that point might now be favourable at > > > all, though a > > > person is inclined and wants to do say for > > example > > > engineering but > > > during the maturity of grade 12 marks and at the > > > time of admission > > > if the dasa running is not favourable then he > > may > > > not get admission > > > into a college, this can also be studied from > > > Navamsa lords of 10th > > > house from Sun, lagna and moon have to be > > studied > > > and their > > > respective strengths. > > > > > > What may be good education or level of education > > > in one coutry may > > > be different from the other, and this is also to > > > be studied > > > depending on the place one is in. > > > > > > Cheers !!! > > > Ash > > > > > > > > > > > > vedic astrology, "Katti Narahari" > > > <katti_narahari@h...> > > > wrote: > > > > Om Guruve Namah. > > > > > > > > If you are talking of degrees and > > certificates, > > > i think it;s A5. > > > > > > > > Hari > > > > - > > > > Sanjay Prabhakaran > > > > vedic astrology > > > > Sunday, February 17, 2002 12:22 AM > > > > [vedic astrology] House for Degrees > > > Bachelor's > > > degree,Diplomas etc > > > > > > > > > > > > Om Gurave Namah, > > > > Dear Jyotishas, > > > > Which house signifies Bachelor's degree > > like > > > BE or B.Sc., > > > > I was usually looking in the 4th house, but > > > should I look into > > > 9th house for higher education. Bachelors > > degrees > > > in science, > > > commerce is so common in most cases in India > > that > > > can we consider it > > > as basic education?. > > > > Master's degree can count in the 9th house. > > > > What house to look for jyotisha studies like > > > we have in SJVC, > > > 9th house?. > > > > > > > > Regards > > > > Sanjay Prabhakaran > > > > > > > > Sponsor > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Archives: > > > vedic astrology > > > > > > > > Group info: > > > vedic- > > > astrology/info.html > > > > > > > > To UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to > > > vedic astrology-@e... > > > > > > > > ....... May Jupiter's light shine on us > > > ....... > > > > > > > > || Om Tat Sat || Sarvam Sri > > > Krishnaarpanamastu || > > > > > > > > Your use of is subject to the > > > Terms of > > > Service. > > > > > > > > > Archives: > > > vedic astrology > > > > > > Group info: > > > > > > vedic astrology/info.html > > > > > > To UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to > > > vedic astrology- > > > > > > ....... May Jupiter's light shine on us ....... > > > > > > || Om Tat Sat || Sarvam Sri > > > Krishnaarpanamastu || > > > > > > Your use of is subject to the > > > > > Terms of Service. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > === message truncated === > > > > Sports - Coverage of the 2002 Olympic Games > http://sports. > > > > > > > > ....... May Jupiter's light shine on us ....... > > > > Your use of is subject to > > > > > > > > > ....... 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Guest guest Posted February 19, 2002 Report Share Posted February 19, 2002 Om Guruve Namah --------------- Dear Sanjay Gurudev, Pranam. Let me begin by saying that I do know you are my well wisher. This is the first time that you have constructively critised my post and I feel honoured by it. This also gives me a chace to explain my reasoning, so please bear with me. This is also the first time that I am writing in reply to your post again I feel honoured. Here is my reasoning. 5th house rules education - graduate, past karma and so after thinking about this point as you mentioned about having knowledge of past 3 lives makes sense as Guru becomes the Karak of natural 5th house as the 8th hosue from 5th house is Pisces. So it makes sense as a strong karak would help retain knowledge of 3 past lives. In your post you menioned that Guru in Simhanloka by that I would understand that one is studying Guru's strengh in the divisional charts to judge the strength of the Karak and not just go by Rasi as you have always emphasised upon. 9th house rules higher education and spirituality and future knowledge, and 8th from natural 9th house is Cancer which is lorded by Moon and hence Moon becomes Karak for 9th house. On the same basis if the Karak Moon is strong then the person would have good knowledge of the future and good potential for spirituality and since higher knowledge (analogy to post graduate studies) is concerned in which more understanding is needed that graduate (Anology) then in the strictest sense would make a person more knowledgable. In your book COVA you have mentioned that Nosterdemaus and Moon for astrology. So that too fits well. 8th house from the natual 8th house is 3rd house which is lorded by Mercury. So if Mercury the karak of 8th house is strong then the person should have retaining power of occult science as 8th house also rules occult sciences amontst other things. So a good astrologer (holder of occult knowledge) must also have a strong mercury which again in consideration with divisional charts would be an asset to a person learning occult sciences like Astrology to retain knowledge of the occult knowledge. A strong mercury would also give good vach or power to explain an event. Venus being 8th lord from natural 12th house Pisces, is the natural karak for bed pleasures amongsts other factors that 12th house indicates. A Strong karak will help a person retain knowledge of the art again emphasising to confirm the strenght of Venus in divisional charts. Again if Venus is favourably aspected my Guru then the art will not be misused but then if it is aspected by Shani then the art will be misused I am talking about Graha dristi as it will show the desire Similarly for other planets. Rahu and Ketu are grahas and they can take the form of the house they are in and their lords and the constellation lord that they are placed in, so they can be multifactited and can show different traits depending on the nature they assume. Now on the same lines of thinking, Natural 4th house rules knowledge (General knowledge, not formal education knowledge), hence I would say knowledge gained from the hard lessons learned from life and experiences and we know that experiencs learned the hard way one does not forget easily and 8th from 4th house is 11th house lorded by Shani. So Shani becomes Karak for knowledge and Shani by its default traits would teach the knowledge the hard way. So again on the same lines if Shani is powerful then a person should retain vidya or harder will be the lesson or experiences of life and it will not be forgotton easily. The stronger is Shani analogous to Guru in simhansaloka similar to Guru in simhansaloka helping a person retain knowledge for 3 lifetimes such would be the strength of Shani and its lessons will not be forotton. Who is an intellegent person ? In all the below criteria one would have to have a good memory, grasping power and power to understand and comphrehend basically making a long story short - intellegent? Some people can say that it is a person that tops a graduate class (Guru) is intellegent, then some would say that someone who tops a post graduate class is intellegent (Moon) , then there are others who can retain knowledge of all the various shokas of Astrology or other occult sciences (Mercury) is intellegent, but then there are others who do not have any formal education but have very good over all knowledge, general knowledge that can be even better than a person with formal knowledge (Shani) again all depending on strength. Mirror Mirror on the wall who is the most intellegent of them all ? There were a few posts by Nandan and Zoran Guru regarding Moon, Mercury, Guru and Shani. So if we consider 4th house as that of knowledge then if Shani is strong and confirmed in Divisional Charts then the person will have the power to retain knowledge, overall knowledge or general knowledge or knowledge that has been learnt the hard way. With that Please feel free to correct my understanding. Thanking you for listening, Cheers !!! Ash vedic astrology, "Sanjay Rath" <srath@v...> wrote: > om gurave namah > ------------------------ > Dear Ash > Is everything OK with you? last time you wrote saturn is karak for > intelligence and not you say it is karak for fourth house!! I guesws we all > need a break. Some fresh air can do you good after this long winter. I'll > write later but do take this advise from a well wisher. > With best wishes > Sanjay Rath > Web: http://sanjayrath.tripod.com > Services: http://sanjayrath.tripod.com/zservices.htm > Jyotish Digest: http://jyotishdigest.com/ > SJVC: http://www.sjvc.org/ > - > "ashsam73" <ashsam73@h...> > <vedic astrology> > Monday, February 18, 2002 10:48 PM > [vedic astrology] Re: House for Degrees Bachelor's degree,Diplomas > etc > > > Hi Hari, > > Saturn is Natural Karak for 4th house. If one gets an educational > degree that enhances their personal status like a promotion, more > power in working environment etc, then 6th house and its lord is > responsible for professional status being 9th from 10th house and 6th > from lagna. This also should be studied from Moon (as to how you > feel from your mind) and from Sun (which might show how you feel from > the atma or the soul) 5th house is for degree and 9th for advanced > degree. Yes you are right in saying that 6th house indicates service, > but it also indicates personal status. Mars is the natural karak for > the 6th house, being 8th from natural 6th house. For a chart the > functional karak is the 8th house and its lord from the house under > consideration. > > When will the event take place and the quality of the event is a > diffent story all together ? > > Cheers !!! > Ash > > vedic astrology, "Katti Narahari" <katti_narahari@h...> > wrote: > > Dear Ash, > > > > Saturn being the karaka for intelligence!!!!... you mentioned 6th > lord has to be studied... am i on track by assuming that 6th house is > for service and Saturn is the natural karaka for 6th house? or am i > on a tangential course of thinking? > > > > Regards > > > > Katti Narahari > > - > > ashsam73 > > vedic astrology > > Sunday, February 17, 2002 4:02 AM > > [vedic astrology] Re: House for Degrees Bachelor's > degree,Diplomas etc > > > > > > Hi Sanjay and Hari, > > > > If one gets a degree that increases the status of the person then > > 6th and 10th along with 5th house and their lords have to be > studied > > as 6th house increases the status and 10th for profession this is > > from lagna. 5th house is for degree and 9th for advanced > learning > > and spiritual learning. But before you dwelve into the degree, > the > > intellegence of the person has to be gauged as success and > failure > > would depend on it. The karak for intellegence is Saturn and if > > lagna lord, Sun and Moon are in the Saturnian sign in Navamsa, > > Drekkhana and Trimsamsa then the person can be very intellegent. > > 4th house is for knowlege and 5th for degree. > > For an institute like SJVC, which does not give any degree, 12th > > house and 9th hosue would have to be studied for spirituality and > > higher learning. > > > > Sometimes we find that a person may be very intellegent but the > dasa > > running at that point might now be favourable at all, though a > > person is inclined and wants to do say for example engineering > but > > during the maturity of grade 12 marks and at the time of > admission > > if the dasa running is not favourable then he may not get > admission > > into a college, this can also be studied from Navamsa lords of > 10th > > house from Sun, lagna and moon have to be studied and their > > respective strengths. > > > > What may be good education or level of education in one coutry > may > > be different from the other, and this is also to be studied > > depending on the place one is in. > > > > Cheers !!! > > Ash > > > > > > > > vedic astrology, "Katti Narahari" > <katti_narahari@h...> > > wrote: > > > Om Guruve Namah. > > > > > > If you are talking of degrees and certificates, i think it;s A5. > > > > > > Hari > > > - > > > Sanjay Prabhakaran > > > vedic astrology > > > Sunday, February 17, 2002 12:22 AM > > > [vedic astrology] House for Degrees Bachelor's > > degree,Diplomas etc > > > > > > > > > Om Gurave Namah, > > > Dear Jyotishas, > > > Which house signifies Bachelor's degree like BE or B.Sc., > > > I was usually looking in the 4th house, but should I look > into > > 9th house for higher education. Bachelors degrees in science, > > commerce is so common in most cases in India that can we consider > it > > as basic education?. > > > Master's degree can count in the 9th house. > > > What house to look for jyotisha studies like we have in SJVC, > > 9th house?. > > > > > > Regards > > > Sanjay Prabhakaran > > > > > > Sponsor > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Group info: vedic- > > astrology/info.html > > > > > > To UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology- @e... > > > > > > ....... May Jupiter's light shine on us ....... > > > > > > > > > > > > Terms of > > Service. > > > > > > > > > > Group info: vedic- astrology/info.html > > > > To UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology-@e... > > > > ....... May Jupiter's light shine on us ....... > > > > > > > > Terms of > Service. > > > > > > > > To UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology-@e... > > ....... 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Guest guest Posted February 19, 2002 Report Share Posted February 19, 2002 om gurave namah ------------------------ Dear Zoran i fully agree and mark my words. Visti shall be among the best Vedic astrologers this world has got. He is very able, capable and sincere. He is young and needs more years into meditation and the mantra recitation. It is for this reason that the Rig Veda is very specific about certain ages for attainment of certain attributes. With best wishes Sanjay Rath Web: http://sanjayrath.tripod.com Services: http://sanjayrath.tripod.com/zservices.htm Jyotish Digest: http://jyotishdigest.com/ SJVC: http://www.sjvc.org/ - "Zoran Radosavljevic" <ahimsa <vedic astrology> Tuesday, February 19, 2002 4:39 AM Re: [vedic astrology] Re: House for Degrees Bachelor's degree,Diplomas etc Dear Sanjay, I didn't want to comment before you, but I was stunned with such information from Visti whose rapid progress impressed me a lot. Finally, a rigth word. Chandra causes exaltation of Guru so she would aslo promote memory. For instance, I have chandra in cancer nearly full (shukla paksha) and Guru is strong in 10th being also vakra. It is enough that I once glance at a chart, and I will memorize it for good. I think I can remember all charts I have seen so far. Best wishes, Zoran Sanjay Rath wrote: > om gurave namah > ------------------------ > Dear Visti > What is going on? Since when did Saturn give retentive memory? Jupiter is > the memory and if guru is in Simhalokamsa the person shall have such a > powerful memory that he shall remember his past 3 lives! (Thats a sloka) Now > Saturn causes debility of Jupiter and loss of memory. I guess we all need a > break. > With best wishes > Sanjay Rath > Web: http://sanjayrath.tripod.com > Services: http://sanjayrath.tripod.com/zservices.htm > Jyotish Digest: http://jyotishdigest.com/ > SJVC: http://www.sjvc.org/ > - > "Visti Larsen" <in_joy_i_scream > <vedic astrology> > Monday, February 18, 2002 4:44 PM > Re: [vedic astrology] Re: House for Degrees Bachelor's > degree,Diplomas etc > > Vyam Vysadevaya Namah > --------------- > Dear List, > Saturn is good for retentive memory yes. > > Mars is for logical thinking, Mercury for learning > ability. Jupiter for teaching, Venus for creativity, > etc. > > Best wishes, Visti. > > --- lakshmi ramesh <b_lakshmi_ramesh wrote: > > > > Om Gurave Namah > > Namaste Visti, > > I also read somewhere in BV Raman that Saturn in > > dignity can give highly retentive memory. > > Regards, > > Lakshmi > > Visti Larsen <in_joy_i_scream wrote: > > Vyam Vysadevaya Namah > > ---------- > > Dear Katti, Partha and Ash, > > > > Sani isn't the Karaka for intelligence, but without > > sani's influence you won't become intelligent! This > > is > > the concept of the Tapaswi. > > > > Surya is the Karaka for all knowledge, brain and > > hence > > also intelligence. This is also the result of the > > Gayatri for Savitur(Surya). > > > > Best wishes, Visti. > > > > --- Katti Narahari <katti_narahari > > wrote: > > > Dear Ash, > > > > > > Saturn being the karaka for intelligence!!!!... > > you > > > mentioned 6th lord has to be studied... am i on > > > track by assuming that 6th house is for service > > and > > > Saturn is the natural karaka for 6th house? or am > > i > > > on a tangential course of thinking? > > > > > > Regards > > > > > > Katti Narahari > > > - > > > ashsam73 > > > vedic astrology > > > Sunday, February 17, 2002 4:02 AM > > > [vedic astrology] Re: House for Degrees > > > Bachelor's degree,Diplomas etc > > > > > > > > > Hi Sanjay and Hari, > > > > > > If one gets a degree that increases the status > > of > > > the person then > > > 6th and 10th along with 5th house and their > > lords > > > have to be studied > > > as 6th house increases the status and 10th for > > > profession this is > > > from lagna. 5th house is for degree and 9th for > > > advanced learning > > > and spiritual learning. But before you dwelve > > > into the degree, the > > > intellegence of the person has to be gauged as > > > success and failure > > > would depend on it. The karak for intellegence > > is > > > Saturn and if > > > lagna lord, Sun and Moon are in the Saturnian > > sign > > > in Navamsa, > > > Drekkhana and Trimsamsa then the person can be > > > very intellegent. > > > 4th house is for knowlege and 5th for degree. > > > For an institute like SJVC, which does not give > > > any degree, 12th > > > house and 9th hosue would have to be studied for > > > spirituality and > > > higher learning. > > > > > > Sometimes we find that a person may be very > > > intellegent but the dasa > > > running at that point might now be favourable at > > > all, though a > > > person is inclined and wants to do say for > > example > > > engineering but > > > during the maturity of grade 12 marks and at the > > > time of admission > > > if the dasa running is not favourable then he > > may > > > not get admission > > > into a college, this can also be studied from > > > Navamsa lords of 10th > > > house from Sun, lagna and moon have to be > > studied > > > and their > > > respective strengths. > > > > > > What may be good education or level of education > > > in one coutry may > > > be different from the other, and this is also to > > > be studied > > > depending on the place one is in. > > > > > > Cheers !!! > > > Ash > > > > > > > > > > > > vedic astrology, "Katti Narahari" > > > <katti_narahari@h...> > > > wrote: > > > > Om Guruve Namah. > > > > > > > > If you are talking of degrees and > > certificates, > > > i think it;s A5. > > > > > > > > Hari > > > > - > > > > Sanjay Prabhakaran > > > > vedic astrology > > > > Sunday, February 17, 2002 12:22 AM > > > > [vedic astrology] House for Degrees > > > Bachelor's > > > degree,Diplomas etc > > > > > > > > > > > > Om Gurave Namah, > > > > Dear Jyotishas, > > > > Which house signifies Bachelor's degree > > like > > > BE or B.Sc., > > > > I was usually looking in the 4th house, but > > > should I look into > > > 9th house for higher education. Bachelors > > degrees > > > in science, > > > commerce is so common in most cases in India > > that > > > can we consider it > > > as basic education?. > > > > Master's degree can count in the 9th house. > > > > What house to look for jyotisha studies like > > > we have in SJVC, > > > 9th house?. > > > > > > > > Regards > > > > Sanjay Prabhakaran > > > > > > > > Sponsor > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Archives: > > > vedic astrology > > > > > > > > Group info: > > > vedic- > > > astrology/info.html > > > > > > > > To UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to > > > vedic astrology-@e... > > > > > > > > ....... 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Guest guest Posted February 19, 2002 Report Share Posted February 19, 2002 Om Gurave Namah Shri Sanjay, Namaste. I am sorry if my random reference to Dr Raman offended you. I meant no disrespect to any one. And, Guruji, I have specifically said Saturn “in dignity”, which is a typical Raman phrase and certainly not mine. I am still searching for that particular line (I know I’ve read that line before), and I intend to find it even if I have to scour all the pages of the books of Raman. But, in the meanwhile, may I quote this particular sentence from “How to judge a Horoscope-Volume One”, page 254-255: “If Moon is in conjunction with Saturn, and there’s no beneficial aspect to relieve, the mind is stubborn, slow and subject to melancholia. When, however, there is Adhi yoga or Gajakesari yoga, a well-balanced mind with good reasoning qualities will develop and a retentive memory is shown.” Also Guruji, memory is more of a convenient indexing of events & data, so that retrieval is easy. More of repetitive I/O operations. Doesn’t “Dhi” imply considerably more than memory? Don’t we have so many “absent minded professors” whose genius is unquestionable? Since Saturn rules organization and discipline, and also in a way “ is a planet of logic” ( Page 35 of Notable horoscopes- Adi Sankaracharya ) a good Saturn can certainly aid a good memory. That’s why memory can be “trained” unlike true brilliance…. Also Saturn, as Yama, needs to remember everyone’s accumulated karmic balance sheet spanning so many births, to deal out punishment or to award emancipation. He’s the oldest and has the longest memory. Thanks for giving a valuable lesson well meant, well taken & not easily forgotten (I’ve got a crick in the neck poring over books …) on this auspicious day of “Ratha Saptami” or “Surya Jayanthi “… “Dhyaayet-Sooryam Ananthakoti-kiranam Thejomayam-Bhaaskaram Bhakthaanam-abhayapradam Dinakaram Jyothirmayam Sankaram Aadithyam Jagadeesam-achyuthamajam Thrailokya choodaamanim Bhaktabheesta-varapradam Dinamanim Maarthanda-maadhyam Subham “ May He always lead us to Truth. Regards, Lakshmi P.S: Your suggestion of a break makes real good sense. Thanks. Sanjay Rath <srath (AT) vsnl (DOT) com> wrote: om gurave namah------------------------Dear Lakshmi Please stop quoting Dr Raman like that. Give the reference if you have it. I cannot believe that Dr Raman could have said such a thing.With best wishesSanjay RathWeb: http://sanjayrath.tripod.comServices: http://sanjayrath.tripod.com/zservices.htmJyotish Digest: http://jyotishdigest.com/SJVC: http://www.sjvc.org/ - lakshmi ramesh vedic astrology Monday, February 18, 2002 4:38 PM Re: [vedic astrology] Re: House for Degrees Bachelor's degree,Diplomas etc Om Gurave Namah Namaste Visti, I also read somewhere in BV Raman that Saturn in dignity can give highly retentive memory. Regards, Lakshmi Visti Larsen <in_joy_i_scream > wrote: Vyam Vysadevaya Namah----------Dear Katti, Partha and Ash,Sani isn't the Karaka for intelligence, but withoutsani's influence you won't become intelligent! This isthe concept of the Tapaswi.Surya is the Karaka for all knowledge, brain and hencealso intelligence. This is also the result of theGayatri for Savitur(Surya).Best wishes, Visti.--- Katti Narahari <katti_narahari (AT) hotmail (DOT) com> wrote:> Dear Ash,> > Saturn being the karaka for intelligence!!!!... you> mentioned 6th lord has to be studied... am i on> track by assuming that 6th house is for service and> Saturn is the natural karaka for 6th house? or am i> on a tangential course of thinking?> > Regards> > Katti Narahari> - > ashsam73 > To: vedic astrology > Sunday, February 17, 2002 4:02 AM> [vedic astrology] Re: House for Degrees> Bachelor's degree,Diplomas etc> > > Hi Sanjay and Hari,> > If one gets a degree that increases the status of> the person then > 6th and 10th along with 5th house and their lords> have to be studied > as 6th house increases the status and 10th for> profession this is > from lagna. 5th house is for degree and 9th for> advanced learning > and spiritual learning. But before you dwelve> into the degree, the > intellegence of the person has to be gauged as> success and failure > would depend on it. The karak for intellegence is> Saturn and if > lagna lord, Sun and Moon are in the Saturnian sign> in Navamsa, > Drekkhana and Trimsamsa then the person can be> very intellegent.> 4th house is for knowlege and 5th for degree.> For an institute like SJVC, which does not give> any degree, 12th > house and 9th hosue would have to be studied for> spirituality and > higher learning.> > Sometimes we find that a person may be very> intellegent but the dasa > running at that point might now be favourable at> all, though a > person is inclined and wants to do say for example> engineering but > during the maturity of grade 12 marks and at the> time of admission > if the dasa running is not favourable then he may> not get admission > into a college, this can also be studied from> Navamsa lords of 10th > house from Sun, lagna and moon have to be studied> and their > respective strengths.> > What may be good education or level of education> in one coutry may > be different from the other, and this is also to> be studied > depending on the place one is in. > > Cheers !!!> Ash> > > > --- In vedic astrology, "Katti Narahari"> <katti_narahari@h...> > wrote:> > Om Guruve Namah.> > > > If you are talking of degrees and certificates,> i think it;s A5.> > > > Hari> > - > > Sanjay Prabhakaran > > vedic astrology > > Sunday, February 17, 2002 12:22 AM> > [vedic astrology] House for Degrees> Bachelor's > degree,Diplomas etc> > > > > > Om Gurave Namah,> > Dear Jyotishas,> > Which house signifies Bachelor's degree like> BE or B.Sc.,> > I was usually looking in the 4th house, but> should I look into > 9th house for higher education. Bachelors degrees> in science, > commerce is so common in most cases in India that> can we consider it > as basic education?.> > Master's degree can count in the 9th house. > > What house to look for jyotisha studies like> we have in SJVC, > 9th house?.> > > > Regards> > Sanjay Prabhakaran> > > > Sponsor > > > > > > > > > > > > Archives:> vedic astrology> > > > Group info:> vedic-> astrology/info.html> > > > To UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to> vedic astrology-@e...> > > > ....... 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Guest guest Posted February 19, 2002 Report Share Posted February 19, 2002 Dear Lakshmi, > Also Guruji, memory is more of a convenient indexing of events & > data, so that retrieval is easy. More of repetitive I/O > operations. This I/O or OS/Architecture is bounded by a *formal* system( aka a formal system with finite axioms). -How come you comprehend Dhi with such *inferior* formal system. -Sadly, the current state of computing is in the state of bankruptcy with lack of foundations of computing. -The basic computing model based on hypothetical mathematical machine Turing machine. Memory in this machine is kinda tape with *finitely* many cells with scan/write ops. So is current state of Memory market. -One has to recollect Kurt Godel`s, a famous 20th century logician from Austria, work[1] and Betrand Russel[2] to comprehend any real world scenarios. Let me quote my friend in this regard. He met the car driver of Prof Kurt Godel in Princeton area in late 1970s after Godel`s Death. According to [3], Kurt Godel was trying to prove the existence of God. He ended up with Incompleteness Theorem, in brief, In any axiomatic mathematical system there are propositions that cannot be proved or disproved within the axioms of the system. In particular the consistency of the axioms cannot be proved. It is better to question ourself before comparing to *infinite* and informal system. Thats why I say Arts/Humanties are superior to Sciences, which are bounded by axiomatics. So are Astrology, Dhi. [1] Godel, Kurt: Über formal unentscheidbare Sätze der Principia Mathematica und verwandter Systeme I, Monatshefte für Mathematik und Physik, vol. 38, 1931 : 173-198. [2] Russell, Bertrand: Principles of Mathematics, Cambridge: Cambridge University Press, 1903. [3] Steve Lim: Private Communication, September 2001. Best Regards, Venkat Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 19, 2002 Report Share Posted February 19, 2002 Namaste Venkat, Where did i ever say that "Dhi" is equal to science? That's the problem with my rhetoric. Infact, if you read my answer, you'll see that I have said that "Dhi" is more than mere indexing / memory. It's an indefinable mix of intelligence, intuition, logic, wisdom, a rare processing power, innovation....if you consider "Dhi" as root of "Dheeratwa" it means courage... Regards, Lakshmi Sports - Coverage of the 2002 Olympic Games Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 19, 2002 Report Share Posted February 19, 2002 Dear Lakshmi, A very successful consulting engineer working for a world known enterprise in Australia has this very combination - Saturn and Ketu with Moon in Virgo in the 9th. Ascendant is Scorpio. There is no association by Jupiter (in Aquarius), Venus, Mercury (in LIbra). Sun is in Libra and Mars is in Sag. He is known for being well informed in a number of fields, not just his own. He has a couple of masters degrees and also professional qualifications as a chartered engineer. He is the principal engineer in his area. So perhaps the effect is not on the reasoning mind. I would agree that there is a certain level of pessimism where he is often surprised at his own success. So the level of comfort may be affected, the extent to which he takes the world for granted (i.e what we get from our mother?) Best Regards, Nimmi - lakshmi ramesh vedic astrology Tuesday, February 19, 2002 11:07 AM Re: [vedic astrology] Re: House for Degrees Bachelor's degree,Diplomas etc Om Gurave Namah Shri Sanjay, Namaste. I am sorry if my random reference to Dr Raman offended you. I meant no disrespect to any one. And, Guruji, I have specifically said Saturn “in dignity”, which is a typical Raman phrase and certainly not mine. I am still searching for that particular line (I know I’ve read that line before), and I intend to find it even if I have to scour all the pages of the books of Raman. But, in the meanwhile, may I quote this particular sentence from “How to judge a Horoscope-Volume One”, page 254-255: “If Moon is in conjunction with Saturn, and there’s no beneficial aspect to relieve, the mind is stubborn, slow and subject to melancholia. When, however, there is Adhi yoga or Gajakesari yoga, a well-balanced mind with good reasoning qualities will develop and a retentive memory is shown.” Also Guruji, memory is more of a convenient indexing of events & data, so that retrieval is easy. More of repetitive I/O operations. Doesn’t “Dhi” imply considerably more than memory? Don’t we have so many “absent minded professors” whose genius is unquestionable? Since Saturn rules organization and discipline, and also in a way “ is a planet of logic” ( Page 35 of Notable horoscopes- Adi Sankaracharya ) a good Saturn can certainly aid a good memory. That’s why memory can be “trained” unlike true brilliance…. Also Saturn, as Yama, needs to remember everyone’s accumulated karmic balance sheet spanning so many births, to deal out punishment or to award emancipation. He’s the oldest and has the longest memory. Thanks for giving a valuable lesson well meant, well taken & not easily forgotten (I’ve got a crick in the neck poring over books …) on this auspicious day of “Ratha Saptami” or “Surya Jayanthi “… “Dhyaayet-Sooryam Ananthakoti-kiranam Thejomayam-Bhaaskaram Bhakthaanam-abhayapradam Dinakaram Jyothirmayam Sankaram Aadithyam Jagadeesam-achyuthamajam Thrailokya choodaamanim Bhaktabheesta-varapradam Dinamanim Maarthanda-maadhyam Subham “ May He always lead us to Truth. Regards, Lakshmi P.S: Your suggestion of a break makes real good sense. Thanks. Sanjay Rath <srath (AT) vsnl (DOT) com> wrote: om gurave namah------------------------Dear Lakshmi Please stop quoting Dr Raman like that. Give the reference if you have it. I cannot believe that Dr Raman could have said such a thing.With best wishesSanjay RathWeb: http://sanjayrath.tripod.comServices: http://sanjayrath.tripod.com/zservices.htmJyotish Digest: http://jyotishdigest.com/SJVC: http://www.sjvc.org/ - lakshmi ramesh vedic astrology Monday, February 18, 2002 4:38 PM Re: [vedic astrology] Re: House for Degrees Bachelor's degree,Diplomas etc Om Gurave Namah Namaste Visti, I also read somewhere in BV Raman that Saturn in dignity can give highly retentive memory. Regards, Lakshmi Visti Larsen <in_joy_i_scream > wrote: Vyam Vysadevaya Namah----------Dear Katti, Partha and Ash,Sani isn't the Karaka for intelligence, but withoutsani's influence you won't become intelligent! This isthe concept of the Tapaswi.Surya is the Karaka for all knowledge, brain and hencealso intelligence. This is also the result of theGayatri for Savitur(Surya).Best wishes, Visti.--- Katti Narahari <katti_narahari (AT) hotmail (DOT) com> wrote:> Dear Ash,> > Saturn being the karaka for intelligence!!!!... you> mentioned 6th lord has to be studied... am i on> track by assuming that 6th house is for service and> Saturn is the natural karaka for 6th house? or am i> on a tangential course of thinking?> > Regards> > Katti Narahari> - > ashs! am73 > To: vedic astrology > Sunday, February 17, 2002 4:02 AM> [vedic astrology] Re: House for Degrees> Bachelor's degree,Diplomas etc> > > Hi Sanjay and Hari,> > If one gets a degree that increases the status of> the person then > 6th and 10th along with 5th house and their lords> have to be studied > as 6th house increases the status and 10th for> profession this is > from lagna. 5th house is for degree and 9th for> advanced learning > and spiritual learning. But before you dwelve> into the degree, the > intellegence of the person has to be gauged as> success and failure > would depend on it. The karak for intellegence is> Saturn and if > & nbsp; lagna lord, Sun and M! oon are in the Saturnian sign> in Navamsa, > Drekkhana and Trimsamsa then the person can be> very intellegent.> 4th house is for knowlege and 5th for degree.> For an institute like SJVC, which does not give> any degree, 12th > house and 9th hosue would have to be studied for> spirituality and > higher learning.> > Sometimes we find that a person may be very> intellegent but the dasa > running at that point might now be favourable at> all, though a > person is inclined and wants to do say for example> engineering but > during the maturity of grade 12 marks and at the> time of admission > if the dasa running is not favourable then he may> not get admission > into a college, this can also be studied from> Navamsa lords of 10th &! gt; house from Sun, lagna and moon have to be studied> and their > respective strengths.> > What may be good education or level of education> in one coutry may > be different from the other, and this is also to> be studied > depending on the place one is in. > > Cheers !!!> Ash> > > > vedic astrology, "Katti Narahari"> <katti_narahari@h...> > wrote:> > Om Guruve Namah.> > > > If you are talking of degrees and certificates,> i think it;s A5.> > > > Hari> > - > > Sanjay Prabhakaran > > ve dic-astrology >! > Sent: Sunday, February 17, 2002 12:22 AM> > [vedic astrology] House for Degrees> Bachelor's > degree,Diplomas etc> > > > > > Om Gurave Namah,> > Dear Jyotishas,> > Which house signifies Bachelor's degree like> BE or B.Sc.,> > I was usually looking in the 4th house, but> should I look into > 9th house for higher education. Bachelors degrees> in science, > commerce is so common in most cases in India that> can we consider it > as basic education?.> > Master's degree can count in the 9th house. > > What house to look for jyotisha studies like> we hav e in SJVC, > &n! bsp; 9th house?.> > > > Regards> > Sanjay Prabhakaran> > > > Sponsor > > > > > > > > > > > > Archives:> vedic astrology> > > > Group info:> vedic-> astr! ology/info.html> > > > To UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to> vedic astrology-@e...> > > > ........ 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Guest guest Posted February 19, 2002 Report Share Posted February 19, 2002 Dear Visti, I agree with this completely re Saturn with Moon. I know someone with this in the 9th who tends to collect post graduate qualifications. To my knowledge, at present he has 2 masters, 1 business management diploma and 1 chartered engineering qualification. Definitely very hardworking. And a good mind (Sun Merc together helps too!) Regards, Nimmi - "Visti Larsen" <in_joy_i_scream <vedic astrology> Monday, February 18, 2002 10:08 PM Re: [vedic astrology] Re: House for Degrees Bachelor's degree,Diplomas etc > > Vyam Vysadevaya Namah > -------------------- > Dear Gurudeva, Namaste. > Saturn would give the hard-working drive to attain > knowledge. > When Moon is associated with Saturn, the person > dwelves on subjects for a long time, and hence the > repetitive effect. > This is my reasoning, and i didn't differ in other > areas. > Offcourse without Jupiters strength the person would > forget what they were thinking about quite quickly, > and make a bad teacher..This is FAR from the fact with > you, oh Great Simhasan Guru, who is in constant > meditation. > > Is this the great blessing of Gayatri? > Yes i need a break, and renewed energy and direction > Its hard to see your goals in sight with Saturn and > Rahu in the 7th. > > Best wishes, Visti. > > > --- Sanjay Rath <srath wrote: > > > > om gurave namah > > > ------------------------ > > Dear Visti > > What is going on? Since when did Saturn give > > retentive memory? Jupiter is > > the memory and if guru is in Simhalokamsa the person > > shall have such a > > powerful memory that he shall remember his past 3 > > lives! (Thats a sloka) Now > > Saturn causes debility of Jupiter and loss of > > memory. I guess we all need a > > break. > > With best wishes > > Sanjay Rath > > Web: http://sanjayrath.tripod.com > > Services: http://sanjayrath.tripod.com/zservices.htm > > Jyotish Digest: http://jyotishdigest.com/ > > SJVC: http://www.sjvc.org/ > > - > > "Visti Larsen" <in_joy_i_scream > > <vedic astrology> > > Monday, February 18, 2002 4:44 PM > > Re: [vedic astrology] Re: House for Degrees > > Bachelor's > > degree,Diplomas etc > > > > > > Vyam Vysadevaya Namah > > --------------- > > Dear List, > > Saturn is good for retentive memory yes. > > > > Mars is for logical thinking, Mercury for learning > > ability. Jupiter for teaching, Venus for creativity, > > etc. > > > > Best wishes, Visti. > > > > --- lakshmi ramesh <b_lakshmi_ramesh > > wrote: > > > > > > Om Gurave Namah > > > Namaste Visti, > > > I also read somewhere in BV Raman that Saturn in > > > dignity can give highly retentive memory. > > > Regards, > > > Lakshmi > > > Visti Larsen <in_joy_i_scream wrote: > > > Vyam Vysadevaya Namah > > > ---------- > > > Dear Katti, Partha and Ash, > > > > > > Sani isn't the Karaka for intelligence, but > > without > > > sani's influence you won't become intelligent! > > This > > > is > > > the concept of the Tapaswi. > > > > > > Surya is the Karaka for all knowledge, brain and > > > hence > > > also intelligence. This is also the result of the > > > Gayatri for Savitur(Surya). > > > > > > Best wishes, Visti. > > > > > > --- Katti Narahari <katti_narahari > > > wrote: > > > > Dear Ash, > > > > > > > > Saturn being the karaka for intelligence!!!!... > > > you > > > > mentioned 6th lord has to be studied... am i on > > > > track by assuming that 6th house is for service > > > and > > > > Saturn is the natural karaka for 6th house? or > > am > > > i > > > > on a tangential course of thinking? > > > > > > > > Regards > > > > > > > > Katti Narahari > > > > - > > > > ashsam73 > > > > vedic astrology > > > > Sunday, February 17, 2002 4:02 AM > > > > [vedic astrology] Re: House for > > Degrees > > > > Bachelor's degree,Diplomas etc > > > > > > > > > > > > Hi Sanjay and Hari, > > > > > > > > If one gets a degree that increases the status > > > of > > > > the person then > > > > 6th and 10th along with 5th house and their > > > lords > > > > have to be studied > > > > as 6th house increases the status and 10th for > > > > profession this is > > > > from lagna. 5th house is for degree and 9th > > for > > > > advanced learning > > > > and spiritual learning. But before you dwelve > > > > into the degree, the > > > > intellegence of the person has to be gauged as > > > > success and failure > > > > would depend on it. The karak for > > intellegence > > > is > > > > Saturn and if > > > > lagna lord, Sun and Moon are in the Saturnian > > > sign > > > > in Navamsa, > > > > Drekkhana and Trimsamsa then the person can be > > > > very intellegent. > > > > 4th house is for knowlege and 5th for degree. > > > > For an institute like SJVC, which does not > > give > > > > any degree, 12th > > > > house and 9th hosue would have to be studied > > for > > > > spirituality and > > > > higher learning. > > > > > > > > Sometimes we find that a person may be very > > > > intellegent but the dasa > > > > running at that point might now be favourable > > at > > > > all, though a > > > > person is inclined and wants to do say for > > > example > > > > engineering but > > > > during the maturity of grade 12 marks and at > > the > > > > time of admission > > > > if the dasa running is not favourable then he > > > may > > > > not get admission > > > > into a college, this can also be studied from > > > > Navamsa lords of 10th > > > > house from Sun, lagna and moon have to be > > > studied > > > > and their > > > > respective strengths. > > > > > > > > What may be good education or level of > > education > > > > in one coutry may > > > > be different from the other, and this is also > > to > > > > be studied > > > > depending on the place one is in. > > > > > > > > Cheers !!! > > > > Ash > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > vedic astrology, "Katti Narahari" > > > > <katti_narahari@h...> > > > > wrote: > > > > > Om Guruve Namah. > > > > > > > > > > If you are talking of degrees and > > > certificates, > > > > i think it;s A5. > > > > > > > > > > Hari > > > > > - > > > > > Sanjay Prabhakaran > > > > > vedic astrology > > > > > Sunday, February 17, 2002 12:22 AM > > > > > [vedic astrology] House for > > Degrees > > > > Bachelor's > > > > degree,Diplomas etc > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Om Gurave Namah, > > > > > Dear Jyotishas, > > > > > Which house signifies Bachelor's degree > > > like > > > > BE or B.Sc., > > > > > I was usually looking in the 4th house, > > but > > > > should I look into > > > > 9th house for higher education. Bachelors > > > degrees > > > > in science, > > > > commerce is so common in most cases in India > > > that > > > > can we consider it > > > > as basic education?. > > > > > Master's degree can count in the 9th > > house. > > > > > What house to look for jyotisha studies > > like > > > === message truncated === > > > > > Sports - Coverage of the 2002 Olympic Games > http://sports. > > > > > > > > > ....... May Jupiter's light shine on us ....... > > > > Your use of is subject to > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 19, 2002 Report Share Posted February 19, 2002 Dear Nimmi, To add some more data to this discussion, I also know a person with Libra ascendant and saturn, moon situated in 9th and Jupiter in 5th. He did his engineering and studied further to achieve 2 masters and then MBA. Nimmi can you give me the birth data of the person you talked about? Regards, Jai Nimmi Ragavan <106350.3660 (AT) compuserve (DOT) com>To: <vedic astrology>Wednesday, February 20, 2002 12:45 AMRe: [vedic astrology] Re: House for Degrees Bachelor's degree,Diplomas etc Dear Visti,I agree with this completely re Saturn with Moon. I know someone with thisin the 9th who tends to collect post graduate qualifications. To myknowledge, at present he has 2 masters, 1 business management diploma and 1chartered engineering qualification. Definitely very hardworking. And a goodmind (Sun Merc together helps too!)Regards,Nimmi----- Original Message -----"Visti Larsen" <in_joy_i_scream >To: <vedic astrology>Monday, February 18, 2002 10:08 PMRe: [vedic astrology] Re: House for Degrees Bachelor'sdegree,Diplomas etc>> Vyam Vysadevaya Namah> --------------------> Dear Gurudeva, Namaste.> Saturn would give the hard-working drive to attain> knowledge.> When Moon is associated with Saturn, the person> dwelves on subjects for a long time, and hence the> repetitive effect.> This is my reasoning, and i didn't differ in other> areas.> Offcourse without Jupiters strength the person would> forget what they were thinking about quite quickly,> and make a bad teacher..This is FAR from the fact with> you, oh Great Simhasan Guru, who is in constant> meditation.>> Is this the great blessing of Gayatri?> Yes i need a break, and renewed energy and direction> Its hard to see your goals in sight with Saturn and> Rahu in the 7th.>> Best wishes, Visti.>>> --- Sanjay Rath <srath (AT) vsnl (DOT) com> wrote:> >> > om gurave namah> >> ------------------------> > Dear Visti> > What is going on? Since when did Saturn give> > retentive memory? Jupiter is> > the memory and if guru is in Simhalokamsa the person> > shall have such a> > powerful memory that he shall remember his past 3> > lives! (Thats a sloka) Now> > Saturn causes debility of Jupiter and loss of> > memory. I guess we all need a> > break.> > With best wishes> > Sanjay Rath> > Web: http://sanjayrath.tripod.com> > Services: http://sanjayrath.tripod.com/zservices.htm> > Jyotish Digest: http://jyotishdigest.com/> > SJVC: http://www.sjvc.org/> > ----- Original Message -----> > "Visti Larsen" <in_joy_i_scream >> > To: <vedic astrology>> > Monday, February 18, 2002 4:44 PM> > Re: [vedic astrology] Re: House for Degrees> > Bachelor's> > degree,Diplomas etc> >> >> > Vyam Vysadevaya Namah> > ---------------> > Dear List,> > Saturn is good for retentive memory yes.> >> > Mars is for logical thinking, Mercury for learning> > ability. Jupiter for teaching, Venus for creativity,> > etc.> >> > Best wishes, Visti.> >> > --- lakshmi ramesh <b_lakshmi_ramesh >> > wrote:> > >> > > Om Gurave Namah> > > Namaste Visti,> > > I also read somewhere in BV Raman that Saturn in> > > dignity can give highly retentive memory.> > > Regards,> > > Lakshmi> > > Visti Larsen <in_joy_i_scream > wrote:> > > Vyam Vysadevaya Namah> > > ----------> > > Dear Katti, Partha and Ash,> > >> > > Sani isn't the Karaka for intelligence, but> > without> > > sani's influence you won't become intelligent!> > This> > > is> > > the concept of the Tapaswi.> > >> > > Surya is the Karaka for all knowledge, brain and> > > hence> > > also intelligence. This is also the result of the> > > Gayatri for Savitur(Surya).> > >> > > Best wishes, Visti.> > >> > > --- Katti Narahari <katti_narahari (AT) hotmail (DOT) com>> > > wrote:> > > > Dear Ash,> > > >> > > > Saturn being the karaka for intelligence!!!!...> > > you> > > > mentioned 6th lord has to be studied... am i on> > > > track by assuming that 6th house is for service> > > and> > > > Saturn is the natural karaka for 6th house? or> > am> > > i> > > > on a tangential course of thinking?> > > >> > > > Regards> > > >> > > > Katti Narahari> > > > -> > > > ashsam73> > > > vedic astrology> > > > Sunday, February 17, 2002 4:02 AM> > > > [vedic astrology] Re: House for> > Degrees> > > > Bachelor's degree,Diplomas etc> > > >> > > >> > > > Hi Sanjay and Hari,> > > >> > > > If one gets a degree that increases the status> > > of> > > > the person then> > > > 6th and 10th along with 5th house and their> > > lords> > > > have to be studied> > > > as 6th house increases the status and 10th for> > > > profession this is> > > > from lagna. 5th house is for degree and 9th> > for> > > > advanced learning> > > > and spiritual learning. But before you dwelve> > > > into the degree, the> > > > intellegence of the person has to be gauged as> > > > success and failure> > > > would depend on it. The karak for> > intellegence> > > is> > > > Saturn and if> > > > lagna lord, Sun and Moon are in the Saturnian> > > sign> > > > in Navamsa,> > > > Drekkhana and Trimsamsa then the person can be> > > > very intellegent.> > > > 4th house is for knowlege and 5th for degree.> > > > For an institute like SJVC, which does not> > give> > > > any degree, 12th> > > > house and 9th hosue would have to be studied> > for> > > > spirituality and> > > > higher learning.> > > >> > > > Sometimes we find that a person may be very> > > > intellegent but the dasa> > > > running at that point might now be favourable> > at> > > > all, though a> > > > person is inclined and wants to do say for> > > example> > > > engineering but> > > > during the maturity of grade 12 marks and at> > the> > > > time of admission> > > > if the dasa running is not favourable then he> > > may> > > > not get admission> > > > into a college, this can also be studied from> > > > Navamsa lords of 10th> > > > house from Sun, lagna and moon have to be> > > studied> > > > and their> > > > respective strengths.> > > >> > > > What may be good education or level of> > education> > > > in one coutry may> > > > be different from the other, and this is also> > to> > > > be studied> > > > depending on the place one is in.> > > >> > > > Cheers !!!> > > > Ash> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > > vedic astrology, "Katti Narahari"> > > > <katti_narahari@h...>> > > > wrote:> > > > > Om Guruve Namah.> > > > >> > > > > If you are talking of degrees and> > > certificates,> > > > i think it;s A5.> > > > >> > > > > Hari> > > > > -> > > > > Sanjay Prabhakaran> > > > > vedic astrology> > > > > Sunday, February 17, 2002 12:22 AM> > > > > [vedic astrology] House for> > Degrees> > > > Bachelor's> > > > degree,Diplomas etc> > > > >> > > > >> > > > > Om Gurave Namah,> > > > > Dear Jyotishas,> > > > > Which house signifies Bachelor's degree> > > like> > > > BE or B.Sc.,> > > > > I was usually looking in the 4th house,> > but> > > > should I look into> > > > 9th house for higher education. Bachelors> > > degrees> > > > in science,> > > > commerce is so common in most cases in India> > > that> > > > can we consider it> > > > as basic education?.> > > > > Master's degree can count in the 9th> > house.> > > > > What house to look for jyotisha studies> > like> >> === message truncated ===>>> > > Sports - Coverage of the 2002 Olympic Games> http://sports.>>> Archives: vedic astrology>> Group info: vedic astrology/info.html>> To UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology->> ....... May Jupiter's light shine on us .......>> || Om Tat Sat || Sarvam Sri Krishnaarpanamastu ||>> Your use of is subject to >>Archives: vedic astrologyGroup info: vedic astrology/info.htmlTo UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology-....... May Jupiter's light shine on us ....... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 19, 2002 Report Share Posted February 19, 2002 Hi everybody, I feel that the sign cancer and moon are very important for ones memory since cancer is a water sign(it retains everything) moon is the karaka for mind, So there cannot be more influential planet than chandra for one's memory. krishna --- Sanjay Rath <srath wrote: <HR> <html><body> <tt> om gurave namah<BR> ------------------------<BR> Dear Zoran<BR> i fully agree and mark my words. Visti shall be among the best Vedic<BR> astrologers this world has got. He is very able, capable and sincere. He is<BR> young and needs more years into meditation and the mantra recitation. It is<BR> for this reason that the Rig Veda is very specific about certain ages for<BR> attainment of certain attributes.<BR> With best wishes<BR> Sanjay Rath<BR> Web: <a href="http://sanjayrath.tripod.com">http://sanjayrath.tripod.com</a><BR> Services: <a href="http://sanjayrath.tripod.com/zservices.htm"> R> ><BR> ><BR> > Archives: <a href="vedic astrology">/group\ /vedic astrology</a><BR> ><BR> > Group info: <a href="vedic astrology/info.html"> R> <BR> --<BR> Zoran Radosavljevic<BR> Jyotish Teacher at Shri Jagannath Vedic Centre<BR> mails: ahimsa<BR> ahimsa<BR> web address: <a href="http://www.sjvc.co.yu">http://www.sjvc.co.yu</a><BR> <BR> <BR> <BR> <BR> <BR> <BR> Archives: <a href="vedic astrology">/group\ /vedic astrology</a><BR> <BR> Group info: <a href="vedic astrology/info.html"> R> <BR> <BR> <BR> <BR> </tt> <br> <!-- |**|begin egp html banner|**| --> <table border=0 cellspacing=0 cellpadding=2> <tr bgcolor=#FFFFCC> <td align=center><font size="-1" color=#003399><b> Sponsor</b></font></td> </tr> <tr bgcolor=#FFFFFF> <td align=center width=470><table border=0 cellpadding=0 cellspacing=0><tr><td align=center><font face=arial size=-2></font><br><a href="http://rd./M=217097.1884387.3381019.1261774/D=egroupweb/S=1705082\ 686:HM/A=960173/R=0/*http://service.bfast.com/bfast/click?bfmid=29150849&siteid=\''>http://service.bfast.com/bfast/click?bfmid=29150849&siteid=\'>http://service.bfast.com/bfast/click?bfmid=29150849&siteid=\ 39249818&bfpage=money4" target=_top><img src="http://us.a1.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/a/sh/sharebuilder/300x250_blue_gen_msn.gi\ f" alt="" width="300" height="250" border="0"></a></td></tr></table></td> </tr> <tr><td><img alt="" width=1 height=1 src="http://us.adserver./l?M=217097.1884387.3381019.1261774/D=egroupmai\ l/S=1705082686:HM/A=960173/rand=116310887"></td></tr> </table> <!-- |**|end egp html banner|**| --> <br> <tt> Archives: <a href="vedic astrology"> of Service</a>.</tt> </br> </body></html> Sports - Coverage of the 2002 Olympic Games http://sports.''>http://sports.'>http://sports. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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