May 14/15th 2002-7 Planets in Vrishaba (Taurus)

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Fayyaz

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This is to be a very unusual event indeed. These planetary positions have not

occurred before in many thousands of years. If you are using Lahiri Ayanamsha

then the stellium in Taurus is very brief. If you use Raman it is a longer

stay and if you go a little further than Raman (away from Lahiri) then the new

Moon could also take place in Krittika in Taurus and the stellium would be

longer still. In any of these cases Jupiter will not be there to steady the

situation - he even has aspect from Rahu. Mars, Venus and Rahu in Mrigahsira

indicate arousal of passion. This is a very volatile Nakshatra. Coupled with

the stifling of creativity Rohini has suffered it suggests to me development

of an explosive situation.

The main example of a stellium in Taurus was in April 3244 BC - all 8 planets

and solar eclipse and most in Rohini. Now it is a much more limited event, but

there is some similarity. I have studied Stelliums a lot. One of the main

conclusions is that these results take time to build up and unfold. It is like

climbing to the top of a mountain and down again, it is a long process.

Anone else wish to comment?

Gordon

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Thanks for your reply, I especially appreciate the comment regarding Jupiter and

Ketu, which I had not really taken into acount. Ketu is exalted so it should

increase its effect. If anyone wants to look at Jupiter/Saturn conjunctions

they can find them in 'Tables of Plentary Phenomena' by Neil F. Michelson,

second edition published not long ago. Taurus can be taken as the 12th for the

USA, just from the fact of so many planets in Gemini, but I believe it is rather

6th House from Sag lagna. That would suggest more severe effects with Taurus in

6th and spiritual gain, material loss with Ketu in 12.

Gordon

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Dear Gauranga,

 

I'd agree that Jupiter being unblemished and separate from this event

will cast his light of benevolence which might tone things down in some

cases. The saturn-jupiter conjunction in May 2000 was more foreboding.

But you speak of the mundane level. Will the affect be as dramatic for

concerned individuals?

 

Sarbani

 

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dear gurus, and members

The last time such a phenomenon of 8 planets in one sign occurred on

4th/5th Feb 1962. There was a lot of publicity given to this event, and

many persons forecast great calamities. No of Yagnas were performed all

over India, to ward off the evil effects. Majority, a vast majority, of

the people, did not travel on that day 4th feb.

As it turned out, NOTHING NOTHING noticable happended on that day. ONLY

one astrologer had forecast this(nothing would happen), because he had

said that all planets are COMBUST (WITHIN 15 DEG OF SUN), so they are

all powerless, and cannot do any harm.

If one casts the planetary positions on 5 FEB 1962, one will see at

5,30 am IST, SUN,Moon,MERC,JUP,VEN,and KETU are within 2/3 deg of each

other, i.e. in conjunction. Mars and Sat are Conjunc and within 12 deg

of SUN and thus combust. This happenned in MAKARA sign

The planetary phenomenon on 14/15 May is not so severe. Jup is out of

the sign. Others are not closely conjunct. So we await and see what

will happen. However, this time there is no hue and cry raised ,as yet

in India. Probably people are awaiting the Panchangas, which will be

out in March April

 

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> JAYA JAGANNATHA!

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> Dear Jyotisha,

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> Namaste.

>

> It is certainly difficult to predict events on a mudane level,

> especially if we want to decide which countries will be involved the

> most, because as each country has its own Lagna, the transit will

> certainly produce different effects in them. For example, the transit

> occurs in the 12th house for USA, thus it may bring overall losses

> (economic recession), and some terrorism/violence may also crop up

> again, as the 12th house is the house of secret enemies. For India,

> it will be in the 5th house, and it is the house of power. India is

> in the period of building up its military and administrative power,

> and showing it to the world. It may also not be free of violent

> events. And so on for other countries.

>

> Otherwise, just taking the stellium generally, the conjunction will

> not actually have the Sun and Moon together in one house (as per

> Lahiri Ayanamsha, so there will be first a quick transit (13th-14th

> May) of Moon through all these planets, which may indicate emotional

> upheaval, or events that disturb the general population. most of the

> events will be considered negative, because of the conjunction of

> Saturn and Rahu, i.e. acts of violence, natural disasters etc. may

> happen in many places. Of course the panic will be much bigger than

> the actual happenings.

>

> After that, on the 15th, the Sun enters Taurus, so it takes 1 month

> to traverse Saturn and Rahu, which may indicate a longer period of

> suffering. In general, the stellium is quite short, and it will

> indicate just a short period of friction, which may look for a moment

> as the beginning of some big tragedy, but it will be eventually

> avoided, because the Sun and Moon don't conjunct, and also Jupiter

> becomes freed of the bad influence in mid February. So the saintly

> persons will not be disturbed at all. Also both Saturn and Jupiter

> become direct, so no big problems are expected, which might affect

> thigns in the long run. It would be interesting, if someone could

> analyse historical events which happened while both Jupiter and

> Saturn were retrograde previously. Perhaps quite adverse events took

> place in these intervals.

>

> Also you may note that all the planets will actually be direct, so no

> clogging up of bad karma is expected, and Jupiter and Ketu, the two

> planets of knowledge will be free from the other influences, so

> people who have taken shelter in real knowledge, will not be

> disturbed at all.

>

> I hope this helps somewhat.

>

> Yours,

>

> Gauranga Das Vedic Astrologer

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> Re: [vedic astrology] May 14/15th 2002-7 Planets in

> Vrishaba (Taurus)

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> Re: 14th May & Question from R. Kasthuri Rangan

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> This is to be a very unusual event indeed. These planetary

> positions have not occurred before in many thousands of years. If

> you are using Lahiri Ayanamsha then the stellium in Taurus is very

> brief. If you use Raman it is a longer stay and if you go a little

> further than Raman (away from Lahiri) then the new Moon could also

> take place in Krittika in Taurus and the stellium would be longer

> still. In any of these cases Jupiter will not be there to steady the

> situation - he even has aspect from Rahu. Mars, Venus and Rahu in

> Mrigahsira indicate arousal of passion. This is a very volatile

> Nakshatra. Coupled with the stifling of creativity Rohini has

> suffered it suggests to me development of an explosive situation.

>

> The main example of a stellium in Taurus was in April 3244 BC - all

> 8 planets and solar eclipse and most in Rohini. Now it is a much

> more limited event, but there is some similarity. I have studied

> Stelliums a lot. One of the main conclusions is that these results

> take time to build up and unfold. It is like climbing to the top of

> a mountain and down again, it is a long process.

>

> Anone else wish to comment?

>

> Gordon

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I have encountered this tendency to assess a major conjunction of planets as a

microscopic event on several occasions. Why is there such a limited view? If

you look at history you can see massive changes associated with great planetary

alignments. It is surely no coincidence that after the close association of

combusted Mercury, Jupiter and Venus with Ketu and Sun/Moon at eclipse in late

Capricorn the world, led by the West, has redisovered homosexuality, contempt

for traditional authority, women's liberation, perverted music, drugs and

rejection of traditional religion in favour of gross materialism. For those

over 50, expecially in the West, there is a clear memory of the almost sudden

tide of revolution that swept old established practices away in the early

sixties. In the USA this almost exactly coincided with 7 years of Ketu dasha of

the nation and extraoridinary 'Flower Power' came and went within this time.

If you go back in time from 1962 to the last 8 planet configuration, in 1524 in

Aquarius, you can see that following that the entire religious life of the

world changed dramatically over years including such things as establishment of

English language, growth of humanist religions, protestantism in Europe,

religious conquest of North and South America, flowering of humanist

rennaissance, tearing away from traditional authority, discovery of New World,

etc., etc. More details can be supplied if anyone is interested.

Regards

Gordon

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JAYA JAGANNATHA!

 

Dear Sarbani,

 

Namaste.

 

 

 

> Dear Gauranga,

>

> I'd agree that Jupiter being unblemished and separate from this event

> will cast his light of benevolence which might tone things down in some

> cases. The saturn-jupiter conjunction in May 2000 was more foreboding.

> But you speak of the mundane level. Will the affect be as dramatic for

> concerned individuals?

>

> Sarbani

> For individual charts, you should see it on the basis of the same

principles. See which house it is in from natla Lagna, Moon , Sun and see

what will be the expected effects. I am basically in agreement with

Narasimha, that as I have also pinted out, the more tense period will be

indicated by the transit of the Sun over Taurus, during which he gets in

exact conjunction with Saturn and Rahu. Both conjunctions will be on the

8th-9th of June at 24 deg in Taurus, so if this point is sensitive in

someone's chart (he has planets, lagnas, Varnadas or Sahams there), then the

are of life indicated by them may be adversely affected in that month.

 

In general, to check if a transit conjunction or aspect strongly affects

someone's natal chart, you should see whether any specific points are

activated (grahas, house cusps, lagnas, varnadas or sahams) and another

thing to be added is to check the dasas running. If the dasas of the same

signs or grahas are in effect, then the influence may be very strong.

Otherwise the direct influence will be much less. For example on Sept. 11.,

2001. we had a Mars-Rahu opposition and a Saturn-Mercury trine. Even many of

the people satying at the WTC could escape safely, while some of the rescue

staff etc. were injured or killed, including those who got Anthrax later on.

Maybe in their charts these aspects activated sensitive points, and the

running dasas also suited the effects of the transits.

 

However, if we take things on mundane level, ane try to abstract from

certain countries or regions, still the aspects and stelliums of planets

should tell us something about the world's fate. This I tink because the

planets at a given moment of Universal Time, would show that particular

formation only if viewed from the Earth. From any other planet in the

universe, they would appear as being in completely different signs and

aspects to each other. But if we try to judge the conjunctions etc. in

respect of world karma, we need to be prepaqred to think generally, or

accept that the indications will take a very/very subtle effect like

strating different processes or periods.

 

Although I haven't read much information about mundane astrology in Jyotisha

sastras, my idea is that the clue to world history is lying in the movements

of Jupiter and Saturn. That's why I propsed to analyse world evets that

happened during joint retrograde periods of Jupiter and Saturn. It would be

also interesing, if someone could pinpoint the timings for exact

conjunctions of Jupiter and Saturn while both were retrograde.

 

And a last thought, regarding Sridhar K's remark that nothing happened on

5th Feb 1962, while 8 planets conjoined in Cap, I cannot sincerely agree.

Maybe nothing special happened in wolrd terms like disasters etc. but much

could have happened on the individual level. Also if all the planets are

combust, then it does not mean that nothing happens. The effect is usually

that there's some strong power restricting many idividuals. That was the

time of clod war threat if I'm correct, and this was really a threatening

factor for many people in the world.

 

Yours,

 

Gauranga Das Vedic Astrologer

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Dear Shri Gauranga,

How would the conjunction affect the attached chart.As per Narayana Dasa it is

Taurus Dasa Pisces antara and as per Vimsottari dasa it will be Sun-Sat-Rahu

during the said period.

Mrityu is at 17 Taurus 09.

V4 is at 20 Ta 08.

With regards,

Jagmeet

P.S.The attached chart is mine.

 

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JAYA JAGANNATHA!

 

Dear Jagmeet Dheendsa,

 

Namaste.

 

In short, it will be bad for your wife (Upapada is in Taurus), and also all

these planets cast an aspect on Jup., Mars and Rahu in 6th from Upapada. She

may get a lot of enemies, and may even get attacked by someone. It may also be

bad for your finances.

 

Yours,

 

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Monday, February 11, 2002 7:57 PM

Re: [vedic astrology] May 14/15th 2002-7 Planets in Vrishaba (Taurus)

 

Dear Shri Gauranga,

How would the conjunction affect the attached chart.As per Narayana Dasa it is

Taurus Dasa Pisces antara and as per Vimsottari dasa it will be Sun-Sat-Rahu

during the said period.

Mrityu is at 17 Taurus 09.

V4 is at 20 Ta 08.

With regards,

Jagmeet

P.S.The attached chart is mine.

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Om Guruve Namah,

 

Pranam to Shri Gauranga,

 

Sorry to jump into the converstation, but i din't quite understand why you said

it will be bad for finances? The Narayana dasa of Pi-Ta running. what i am

looking at is UL which is in Taurus is the 11th from GL and HL, and lord of

Taurus is in the 7th (from HL and GL) and Capricorn is the A7 and AL also.

Where am i wrong? what did i miss?

 

Please advice.

 

Regards

 

Katti Narahari

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Tuesday, February 12, 2002 9:02 AM

Re: [vedic astrology] May 14/15th 2002-7 Planets in Vrishaba (Taurus)

JAYA JAGANNATHA!

 

Dear Jagmeet Dheendsa,

 

Namaste.

 

In short, it will be bad for your wife (Upapada is in Taurus), and also all

these planets cast an aspect on Jup., Mars and Rahu in 6th from Upapada. She

may get a lot of enemies, and may even get attacked by someone. It may also be

bad for your finances.

 

Yours,

 

Gauranga Das Vedic Astrologer gauranga (AT) brihaspati (DOT) net Jyotish Remedies:

WWW.BRIHASPATI.NET Phone:+36-309-140-839

 

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jagmeet s dheendsa

vedic astrology

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Monday, February 11, 2002 7:57 PM

Re: [vedic astrology] May 14/15th 2002-7 Planets in Vrishaba (Taurus)

 

Dear Shri Gauranga,

How would the conjunction affect the attached chart.As per Narayana Dasa it is

Taurus Dasa Pisces antara and as per Vimsottari dasa it will be Sun-Sat-Rahu

during the said period.

Mrityu is at 17 Taurus 09.

V4 is at 20 Ta 08.

With regards,

Jagmeet

P.S.The attached chart is mine.

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