Remedial Measures, Karma theory and Consequent effects

[Guest guest]

||Om Gurubhyo Namah||

 

Respected Guruji and learned members

 

If we believe in karma theory that the life we live today is based on

the good deeds/sins of our previous births, then is it correct to

perform remedial measures to reduce the ill effects of transitory

movements of planets? Not that I dont, but my question is if we do,

does it wipe away the past sins? Or are we just escaping from ill

effects only for the present? But I know for certain, remedial

measures definitely work very well. What is the actual position? Can

the group throw light please?

 

R K Rangan

[Guest guest]

aum namo bahgavate vasudevaya

 

dear rangan and respected gurujis and other members of the group.

 

i would like to throw light on this-

some people say we have no free will in this material world and every

activity of us go according to previous birth karma.but i feel it is

not true.some free will is given to us in material world to change

ourselves and motivate the soul towards narayana which is otherwise

called marching towards mukthi.without free will how is it possible

to change ourself.

for example if one has commited sins in previous life and got the body

of mlechha in this birth ,if he has no free will, he will commit some

more sins and will get still worst birth---and this cycle continues

and he will never get relieved from bondage.so with this logic what i

want to say is! we definitely have free will.it all depends on how we

exercise that free will.

 

coming to the remidial measures, yes! they work provided they are

adopted with an intention to clean our souls.but if we adopts them

for some material benifit then though we can escape it temporarily,it

will be experienced by us in the next birth.one more thing is- all

these remidies are given in terms of some mantra or kriya which

requires a procedure and some conditions to chant or perform.if it is

not done accordingly we may get naegative reactions also

 

keeping all the above facts in mind,sages have given us some parayanas

like vishnu sahasranama etc which doesnt require any specific time or

place to chant and at the same time they can clean your past birth

sins.as the following krishnastakam written by jayadeva states

 

vasudeva sutam devam kamsa chanuramardhanam devaki paramanandham

krishanam vande jagadgurum.

------------------------ so on

krishnastaka midam punayam praturtadya pate koti janma krutam papam

smaranena vinasyati---(sins accumulated in 1 crore lifes are washed)

 

like that dwadasa jyothir linga stotra assures that it can wash sins

accumulated in last seven lifes.

these are some of the concrete proofs given by sages that say that

remidies in form of parayanas are more easily adaptable and lucid.

narada also says in kaliyuga there is no alternative than to chant

narayana mantra-----hare rama hare rama rama rama hare hare hare

krishna hare krishna krishna krishna hare hare

i am still young but what my experience says is though my horoscope

has so many worst combinations and malefic yogas i realised thier

effects very mildly(as one cannot escape from karma).the only way to

forget pain is narayan mantra or shiva mantra.they are like anesthesia

which protects u from realizing pain though you are injured.means you

will undergo all the punishmants as per karma but the anesthesia

called bahgvat nama will act like pain killer or anesthesia.

aum santhi santhi

kindly pardon me if i said something out of ignorance

regards

ram

 

 

 

>

[Guest guest]

JAYA JAGANNATHA!

 

Dear R. K. Rangan,

 

Namaste.

 

 

> ||Om Gurubhyo Namah||

>

> Respected Guruji and learned members

>

> If we believe in karma theory that the life we live today is based on

> the good deeds/sins of our previous births, then is it correct to

> perform remedial measures to reduce the ill effects of transitory

> movements of planets? Not that I dont, but my question is if we do,

> does it wipe away the past sins? Or are we just escaping from ill

> effects only for the present? But I know for certain, remedial

> measures definitely work very well. What is the actual position? Can

> the group throw light please?

>

> R K Rangan

 

To begin with,t here's two classes of materialistic activities: The pious

and the sinful. We call an activity pious is it's according to God's laws,

and we call it sinful if it's against God's laws. Now usually pious

activities result in good effects (Punya karma) kile wisdom, wealth, beauty,

good birth, longevity, happiness etc. and sinful activities result in bad

reactions (Paapa Karma) like suffering, unhappiness, bad qualities, poverty,

disease, madness, violence etc.

 

Evidently most of the people try to be freed or avoid the sinful reactions,

and usually have no problems with the pious ones. But here we should also

remark that no sinful reactions may be counteracted by materialistic pious

activities, because they will give their results independently of each

other. Therefore with application of remedies the question is how to absolve

the sinful reactions?

 

Coming to the remedial measures, we can divide them into two classes:

materialistic and transcendental. By applying materialistic remedies, we may

avert the sinful reactions, but it will show up either later on or in

another form. So it's not really the solution, because you can't destroy

karma with a materialistic activity. In this category we could mention

things like demigod worship, chanting of their mantras, wearing gems,

fasting etc. These measures may change the Gunas acting upon us, but cna't

eradicate the sinful reaction.

 

According to the Sastras, the only way to destroy karma is Vishnu-bhakti, or

devotional service to the Supreme Lord Vishnu (or Krishna). To substantiate

this please see the following quotes from the Bhagavad-gita:

 

karma-jam buddhi-yuktaa hi phalam tyaktvaa maneeshinah

janma-bandha-vinirmuktaah padam gacchanty anaamayam

 

"By thus engaging in devotional service to the Lord, great sages or devotees

free themselves from the results of work in the material world. In this way

they become free from the cycle of birth and death and attain the state

beyond all miseries [by going back to Godhead]." (2.51)

 

yajnaarthaat karmano 'nyatra loko 'yam karma-bandhanah

tad-artham karma kaunteya mukta-sangah samaacara

 

"Work done as a sacrifice for Vishnu has to be performed, otherwise work

causes bondage in this material world. Therefore, O son of Kunti, perform

your prescribed duties for His satisfaction, and in that way you will always

remain free from bondage." (3.9)

 

yajna-shishtaashinah santo mucyante sarva-kilbishaih

bhunjate te tv agham paapaa ye pacanty aatma-kaaranaat

 

"The devotees of the Lord are released from all kinds of sins because they

eat food which is offered first for sacrifice. Others, who prepare food for

personal sense enjoyment, verily eat only sin." (3.13)

 

yo maam ajam anaadim ca vetti loka-maheshvaram

asammuudhah sa martyeshu sarva-paapaih pramucyate

 

"He who knows Me as the unborn, as the beginningless, as the Supreme Lord of

all the worlds-he only, undeluded among men, is freed from all sins." (10.3)

 

 

Therfoer if we actually desire to be freed from our karmic reactions, whe

should take to such transcendental remedies, like worship of Vishnu, Krisna,

the Avataras and the devotees.

 

There are some ambiguities between the two categories. For example, to make

a donation of an article is a materialistic thing, but if it is given to a

devotee, then it is bhakti. Also fasting is mere tapasya, but if performed

on Ekadaasi, then it becomes devotional activity. Also if the Gem is offered

to Visnhu and is chanted with His name, then it alos gives a transcendental

effect. Also certain demigods like Hanuman, Garuda, Sudarshan may be

worshipped as Krishna's devotees.

 

Materialisitic activities like Tantric rites and worship of the Ugra-devatas

will usually cause more difficulty in the future, because we are trying to

avoid our karma by performing more sinful and tamasic acts.

 

Yours,

 

Gauranga Das Vedic Astrologer

gauranga

Jyotish Remedies:

WWW.BRIHASPATI.NET

Phone:+36-309-140-839

 

 

Yours,

[Guest guest]

Respected Shri Gauranga Das,

What do you mean by Ugra devatas?

Please tell me if reading the Vishnu Puran with complete devotion

will help me in getting rid of past bad Karmas I may have performed.

I do not have the Sanskrit version but I have a version in marathi

language.

Thank you.

Sagar Chitnis.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

vedic astrology, "Gauranga Das" <gauranga@b...> wrote:

> JAYA JAGANNATHA!

>

 

> According to the Sastras, the only way to destroy karma is Vishnu-

bhakti, or

> devotional service to the Supreme Lord Vishnu (or Krishna). To

substantiate

> this please see the following quotes from the Bhagavad-gita:

>

> karma-jam buddhi-yuktaa hi phalam tyaktvaa maneeshinah

> janma-bandha-vinirmuktaah padam gacchanty anaamayam

>

> "By thus engaging in devotional service to the Lord, great sages or

devotees

> free themselves from the results of work in the material world. In

this way

> they become free from the cycle of birth and death and attain the

state

> beyond all miseries [by going back to Godhead]." (2.51)

>

> yajnaarthaat karmano 'nyatra loko 'yam karma-bandhanah

> tad-artham karma kaunteya mukta-sangah samaacara

>

> "Work done as a sacrifice for Vishnu has to be performed, otherwise

work

> causes bondage in this material world. Therefore, O son of Kunti,

perform

> your prescribed duties for His satisfaction, and in that way you

will always

> remain free from bondage." (3.9)

>

> yajna-shishtaashinah santo mucyante sarva-kilbishaih

> bhunjate te tv agham paapaa ye pacanty aatma-kaaranaat

>

> "The devotees of the Lord are released from all kinds of sins

because they

> eat food which is offered first for sacrifice. Others, who prepare

food for

> personal sense enjoyment, verily eat only sin." (3.13)

>

> yo maam ajam anaadim ca vetti loka-maheshvaram

> asammuudhah sa martyeshu sarva-paapaih pramucyate

>

> "He who knows Me as the unborn, as the beginningless, as the

Supreme Lord of

> all the worlds-he only, undeluded among men, is freed from all

sins." (10.3)

>

>

> Therfoer if we actually desire to be freed from our karmic

reactions, whe

> should take to such transcendental remedies, like worship of

Vishnu, Krisna,

> the Avataras and the devotees.

>

> There are some ambiguities between the two categories. For example,

to make

> a donation of an article is a materialistic thing, but if it is

given to a

> devotee, then it is bhakti. Also fasting is mere tapasya, but if

performed

> on Ekadaasi, then it becomes devotional activity. Also if the Gem

is offered

> to Visnhu and is chanted with His name, then it alos gives a

transcendental

> effect. Also certain demigods like Hanuman, Garuda, Sudarshan may be

> worshipped as Krishna's devotees.

>

> Materialisitic activities like Tantric rites and worship of the

Ugra-devatas

> will usually cause more difficulty in the future, because we are

trying to

> avoid our karma by performing more sinful and tamasic acts.

>

> Yours,

>

> Gauranga Das Vedic Astrologer

> gauranga@b...

> Jyotish Remedies:

> WWW.BRIHASPATI.NET

> Phone:+36-309-140-839

>

>

> Yours,