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> Dear visti..can you please my questions regarding the AK and AmK

and the Ketu-Upapada as no one else is answering. I'll be greatful to

you.

 

I read some articles regarding ketu being a

> benefic for upapada. But, Ketu in 7th house is a dire malefic and

can

> ruin someone's married life( My aunt had ketu in 7th house and her

> married life was hellish!). Then how can it be benefic for upapada

> but at the same time function as a malefic in the 7th house even if

> we consider ketu for the dharma purposes?

>

> regards

> Aru

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Vyam Vysadevaya Namah

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Dear Aru,

 

Mariage:

I don't believe that Ketu in 7th can ruin someones marriage. See 2nd from Upapada.

Ganesh didn't wanto marry at first, but was cursed to have 3 wives. In return,

he cursed his "curser" to be relieved of her virginity with no other than

Vishnu himself.

 

The curses were fulfilled. good or bad?

 

Ketu will not deny nor trouble marriage, infact if its good for Dharma, then its

good for Ketu. Spouse may get abit bored thou. Ketu in 7th does delay marriage,

as the person has little interest in it.

 

Thats why Venus, Ketu and Upapada can give marriage.

 

Regarding AK and Amk.

The mere conjunction of AK and AmK doesn't produce bad temper. Instead see the planets in lagna.

 

The Atmakarakas placement in any sign, shows ALOT of learning with regards to

that area of life. A person with AK Venus in 7th, may well consider renouncing,

or such.

 

Usually during the Vimshottari Dasa of a Malefic as AK, the person suffers alot,

as the time has come for the AK to teach the person about god, within the area

of life indicated by the placement of the AK.

 

You see the Chara Karakas, are the temporary Karakas, which teach us about god.

AK is for you, the other Karakas for other people.

 

As for your Sag Lagna, and Jup in 8th querry:

Benefics in 3rd & 6th from Arudha Lagna is very good, it produces a person of

saintly conduct. Malefics do otherwise, but give Raja Yogas as well.

 

Best wishes, Visti.

 

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aru_dulla

vedic astrology

Tuesday, January 29, 2002 9:27 PM

[vedic astrology] Ketu and upapada

> Dear visti..can you please my questions regarding the AK and AmK and the

Ketu-Upapada as no one else is answering. I'll be greatful to you. I read some

articles regarding ketu being a > benefic for upapada. But, Ketu in 7th house

is a dire malefic and can > ruin someone's married life( My aunt had ketu in

7th house and her > married life was hellish!). Then how can it be benefic for

upapada > but at the same time function as a malefic in the 7th house even if >

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JAYA JAGANNATHA!

 

Dear Aru,

 

Namaste.

 

> Dear astrologers.....I read some articles regarding ketu being a

> benefic for upapada. But, Ketu in 7th house is a dire malefic and can

> ruin someone's married life( My aunt had ketu in 7th house and her

> married life was hellish!). Then how can it be benefic for upapada

> but at the same time function as a malefic in the 7th house even if

> we consider ketu for the dharma purposes?

>

 

To understand this point, you should first of all understand the deep

relationship between marriage and dharma. We say that Ketu is a benefic for

dharma, because he gives rise to spiritual knowledge and resulting

detachment. Thus marriage should be in tune with this direction to have Ketu

as a benefic. If the marriage aims at maintaining dharma, then Ketu is a

benefic, helping to resolve the conflicts by detachment. Ohterwise, if the

purpose of marriage is to abuse the partner for selfish purposes, Ketu will

not act as a benefic. In tha casde when Ketu is in the 7th house or Upapada,

he may bring detachment, and a sa result, the native may not marry at all.

Does this menat that Ketu was a maletfic? Nopt necessarily, Maybe he saved

the native from a hellish marriage. Of course we could experience more

direct benefic effect of Mercury if he were in the 2nd or 7th from Upapada

or 7th house. Also in the 8th from the 7th house he may obstruct any firther

relationships after the first marriage. Also much depends on the overall

beneficence of Ketu in the chart, analysed from other angles.

 

Yours,

 

Gauranga Das Vedic Astrologer

gauranga

Jyotish Remedies:

WWW.BRIHASPATI.NET

Phone:+36-309-140-839

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Dear Visti.....Thanks a million for your glorious reply. I have been

waiting so long for someone to reply. The reason I asked you this

question is, an astrologer told me that conjunction of AK and AmK in

lagna , especially sun and mars in lagna makes the person very hot

tempered and impatient and sort of bad for marriage. But, he didn't

check planetary placements from Arudha lagna. Anyway, thank you very

much for answer.

 

regards

Aru

 

> Vyam Vysadevaya Namah

> ---------------------------

> Dear Aru,

>

> Mariage:

> I don't believe that Ketu in 7th can ruin someones marriage. See

2nd from

> Upapada.

> Ganesh didn't wanto marry at first, but was cursed to have 3 wives.

In

> return, he cursed his "curser" to be relieved of her virginity with

no other

> than Vishnu himself.

>

> The curses were fulfilled. good or bad?

>

> Ketu will not deny nor trouble marriage, infact if its good for

Dharma, then

> its good for Ketu. Spouse may get abit bored thou. Ketu in 7th does

delay

> marriage, as the person has little interest in it.

>

> Thats why Venus, Ketu and Upapada can give marriage.

>

> Regarding AK and Amk.

> The mere conjunction of AK and AmK doesn't produce bad temper.

Instead see

> the planets in lagna.

>

> The Atmakarakas placement in any sign, shows ALOT of learning with

regards

> to that area of life. A person with AK Venus in 7th, may well

consider

> renouncing, or such.

>

> Usually during the Vimshottari Dasa of a Malefic as AK, the person

suffers

> alot, as the time has come for the AK to teach the person about

god, within

> the area of life indicated by the placement of the AK.

>

> You see the Chara Karakas, are the temporary Karakas, which teach

us about

> god. AK is for you, the other Karakas for other people.

>

> As for your Sag Lagna, and Jup in 8th querry:

> Benefics in 3rd & 6th from Arudha Lagna is very good, it produces a

person

> of saintly conduct. Malefics do otherwise, but give Raja Yogas as

well.

>

> Best wishes, Visti.

>

> -

> aru_dulla

> vedic astrology

> Tuesday, January 29, 2002 9:27 PM

> [vedic astrology] Ketu and upapada

>

>

>

> > Dear visti..can you please my questions regarding the AK and AmK

> and the Ketu-Upapada as no one else is answering. I'll be

greatful to

> you.

>

> I read some articles regarding ketu being a

> > benefic for upapada. But, Ketu in 7th house is a dire malefic

and

> can

> > ruin someone's married life( My aunt had ketu in 7th house and

her

> > married life was hellish!). Then how can it be benefic for

upapada

> > but at the same time function as a malefic in the 7th house

even if

> > we consider ketu for the dharma purposes?

> >

> > regards

> > Aru

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Dear Gauranga........First of all let me thank you for your fine

answer. Do Rahu and Ketu have 5th and 9th aspect in addition to the

7th aspect?

 

thank you

Aru

> JAYA JAGANNATHA!

>

> Dear Aru,

>

> Namaste.

>

> > Dear astrologers.....I read some articles regarding ketu being a

> > benefic for upapada. But, Ketu in 7th house is a dire malefic and

can

> > ruin someone's married life( My aunt had ketu in 7th house and her

> > married life was hellish!). Then how can it be benefic for upapada

> > but at the same time function as a malefic in the 7th house even

if

> > we consider ketu for the dharma purposes?

> >

>

> To understand this point, you should first of all understand the

deep

> relationship between marriage and dharma. We say that Ketu is a

benefic for

> dharma, because he gives rise to spiritual knowledge and resulting

> detachment. Thus marriage should be in tune with this direction to

have Ketu

> as a benefic. If the marriage aims at maintaining dharma, then Ketu

is a

> benefic, helping to resolve the conflicts by detachment. Ohterwise,

if the

> purpose of marriage is to abuse the partner for selfish purposes,

Ketu will

> not act as a benefic. In tha casde when Ketu is in the 7th house or

Upapada,

> he may bring detachment, and a sa result, the native may not marry

at all.

> Does this menat that Ketu was a maletfic? Nopt necessarily, Maybe

he saved

> the native from a hellish marriage. Of course we could experience

more

> direct benefic effect of Mercury if he were in the 2nd or 7th from

Upapada

> or 7th house. Also in the 8th from the 7th house he may obstruct

any firther

> relationships after the first marriage. Also much depends on the

overall

> beneficence of Ketu in the chart, analysed from other angles.

>

> Yours,

>

> Gauranga Das Vedic Astrologer

> gauranga@b...

> Jyotish Remedies:

> WWW.BRIHASPATI.NET

> Phone:+36-309-140-839

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Dear Aru,

Let me try and give you the answer to your question.

Rahu has same aspects as jupiter. i.e. 5th, 9th, 7th and in addition

to that it has aspect on 2nd. Now second is in reverse i.e. 12th

house from where Rahu is situated, the reason is that Rahu and Ketu

travel in reverse direction.

Ketu is headless and cannot cast aspect.

 

Cheers !!!

Ash

 

vedic astrology, "aru_dulla" <aru_dulla> wrote:

> Dear Gauranga........First of all let me thank you for your fine

> answer. Do Rahu and Ketu have 5th and 9th aspect in addition to the

> 7th aspect?

>

> thank you

> Aru

> > JAYA JAGANNATHA!

> >

> > Dear Aru,

> >

> > Namaste.

> >

> > > Dear astrologers.....I read some articles regarding ketu being a

> > > benefic for upapada. But, Ketu in 7th house is a dire malefic

and

> can

> > > ruin someone's married life( My aunt had ketu in 7th house and

her

> > > married life was hellish!). Then how can it be benefic for

upapada

> > > but at the same time function as a malefic in the 7th house

even

> if

> > > we consider ketu for the dharma purposes?

> > >

> >

> > To understand this point, you should first of all understand the

> deep

> > relationship between marriage and dharma. We say that Ketu is a

> benefic for

> > dharma, because he gives rise to spiritual knowledge and resulting

> > detachment. Thus marriage should be in tune with this direction

to

> have Ketu

> > as a benefic. If the marriage aims at maintaining dharma, then

Ketu

> is a

> > benefic, helping to resolve the conflicts by detachment.

Ohterwise,

> if the

> > purpose of marriage is to abuse the partner for selfish purposes,

> Ketu will

> > not act as a benefic. In tha casde when Ketu is in the 7th house

or

> Upapada,

> > he may bring detachment, and a sa result, the native may not

marry

> at all.

> > Does this menat that Ketu was a maletfic? Nopt necessarily, Maybe

> he saved

> > the native from a hellish marriage. Of course we could experience

> more

> > direct benefic effect of Mercury if he were in the 2nd or 7th

from

> Upapada

> > or 7th house. Also in the 8th from the 7th house he may obstruct

> any firther

> > relationships after the first marriage. Also much depends on the

> overall

> > beneficence of Ketu in the chart, analysed from other angles.

> >

> > Yours,

> >

> > Gauranga Das Vedic Astrologer

> > gauranga@b...

> > Jyotish Remedies:

> > WWW.BRIHASPATI.NET

> > Phone:+36-309-140-839

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Dear Asham...Thank you for your answer. Have a nice day.

 

regards

Aru

> Dear Aru,

> Let me try and give you the answer to your question.

> Rahu has same aspects as jupiter. i.e. 5th, 9th, 7th and in

addition

> to that it has aspect on 2nd. Now second is in reverse i.e. 12th

> house from where Rahu is situated, the reason is that Rahu and Ketu

> travel in reverse direction.

> Ketu is headless and cannot cast aspect.

>

> Cheers !!!

> Ash

>

> vedic astrology, "aru_dulla" <aru_dulla> wrote:

> > Dear Gauranga........First of all let me thank you for your fine

> > answer. Do Rahu and Ketu have 5th and 9th aspect in addition to

the

> > 7th aspect?

> >

> > thank you

> > Aru

> > > JAYA JAGANNATHA!

> > >

> > > Dear Aru,

> > >

> > > Namaste.

> > >

> > > > Dear astrologers.....I read some articles regarding ketu

being a

> > > > benefic for upapada. But, Ketu in 7th house is a dire malefic

> and

> > can

> > > > ruin someone's married life( My aunt had ketu in 7th house

and

> her

> > > > married life was hellish!). Then how can it be benefic for

> upapada

> > > > but at the same time function as a malefic in the 7th house

> even

> > if

> > > > we consider ketu for the dharma purposes?

> > > >

> > >

> > > To understand this point, you should first of all understand

the

> > deep

> > > relationship between marriage and dharma. We say that Ketu is a

> > benefic for

> > > dharma, because he gives rise to spiritual knowledge and

resulting

> > > detachment. Thus marriage should be in tune with this direction

> to

> > have Ketu

> > > as a benefic. If the marriage aims at maintaining dharma, then

> Ketu

> > is a

> > > benefic, helping to resolve the conflicts by detachment.

> Ohterwise,

> > if the

> > > purpose of marriage is to abuse the partner for selfish

purposes,

> > Ketu will

> > > not act as a benefic. In tha casde when Ketu is in the 7th

house

> or

> > Upapada,

> > > he may bring detachment, and a sa result, the native may not

> marry

> > at all.

> > > Does this menat that Ketu was a maletfic? Nopt necessarily,

Maybe

> > he saved

> > > the native from a hellish marriage. Of course we could

experience

> > more

> > > direct benefic effect of Mercury if he were in the 2nd or 7th

> from

> > Upapada

> > > or 7th house. Also in the 8th from the 7th house he may

obstruct

> > any firther

> > > relationships after the first marriage. Also much depends on

the

> > overall

> > > beneficence of Ketu in the chart, analysed from other angles.

> > >

> > > Yours,

> > >

> > > Gauranga Das Vedic Astrologer

> > > gauranga@b...

> > > Jyotish Remedies:

> > > WWW.BRIHASPATI.NET

> > > Phone:+36-309-140-839

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Vyam Vysadevaya Namah

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Dear Aru,

In addition to what ash said;

The reason that Rahu gives Graha Dristi on the same

houses as Jupiter, is because:

 

The 9th, 1st and 5th shows the past, present and

future respectively.

 

Where Jupiter blesses us with fortune for what we've

done in the Past, Rahu instead curses us for all that

we have done in the past.

 

Since Rahu also is the cause of rebirth, it aspects

the 12th from it. Note that it travels backwards, so

it aspects the 2nd from it in regular count.

 

 

Now being that Ketu is headless, it doesn't see

anything, hence no dristi.

 

Now.. Dristi means sight(view) and theres an important

understanding to be made with the reasons that grahas

aspect certain houses from them. This is due to the

individual Grahas desire.

Hence Saturn aspects 3rd and 10th, which are upachaya

houses, because it wants you to live long.

 

And hence Ketu cannot have any desires, because its

Moksha Karaka! If you have desires, you cannot have

moksha.

 

Is anybody compiling this thread into a doc-file, for

future reference?

 

Best wishes, Visti.

 

 

 

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OM Gurave Namah

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Dear Ash

 

A minor correction. Rahu aspects 12th from it which effectively turns out to be

2nd as Rahu's dristi is in reverse to other planet. This gives an idea, why rahu

binds the soul to this world (opposite of 12th) with greediness and

materialistic tendencies (Rahu's Nature).

 

Thus Rahu, when placed in the 12th aspect the lagna.

 

Pranaam

Anjaneya

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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> Dear Aru,<BR>

> Let me try and give you the answer to your question.<BR>

> Rahu has same aspects as jupiter.  i.e. 5th, 9th, 7th and in

> addition <BR>

> to that it has aspect on 2nd.  Now second is in reverse i.e. 12th

> <BR>

> house from where Rahu is situated, the reason is that Rahu and Ketu

> <BR>

> travel in reverse direction.<BR>

> Ketu is headless and cannot cast aspect.<BR>

> <BR>

> Cheers !!!<BR>

> Ash<BR>

> <BR>

> vedic astrology, "aru_dulla"

> <aru_dulla> wrote:<BR>

> > Dear Gauranga........First of all let me thank you for your fine

> <BR>

> > answer. Do Rahu and Ketu have 5th and 9th aspect in addition to the

> <BR>

> > 7th aspect? <BR>

> > <BR>

> > thank you<BR>

> > Aru <BR>

> > > JAYA JAGANNATHA!<BR>

> > > <BR>

> > > Dear Aru,<BR>

> > > <BR>

> > > Namaste.<BR>

> > > <BR>

> > > > Dear astrologers.....I read some articles regarding ketu

> being a<BR>

> > > > benefic for upapada. But, Ketu in 7th house is a dire

> malefic <BR>

> and <BR>

> > can<BR>

> > > > ruin someone's married life( My aunt had ketu in 7th

> house and <BR>

> her<BR>

> > > > married life was hellish!). Then how can it be benefic

> for <BR>

> upapada<BR>

> > > > but at the same time function as a malefic in the 7th

> house <BR>

> even <BR>

> > if<BR>

> > > > we consider ketu for the dharma purposes?<BR>

> > > ><BR>

> > > <BR>

> > > To understand this point, you should first of all understand

> the <BR>

> > deep<BR>

> > > relationship between marriage and dharma. We say that Ketu is

> a <BR>

> > benefic for<BR>

> > > dharma, because he gives rise to spiritual knowledge and

> resulting<BR>

> > > detachment. Thus marriage should be in tune with this

> direction <BR>

> to <BR>

> > have Ketu<BR>

> > > as a benefic. If the marriage aims at maintaining dharma, then

> <BR>

> Ketu <BR>

> > is a<BR>

> > > benefic, helping to resolve the conflicts by detachment. <BR>

> Ohterwise, <BR>

> > if the<BR>

> > > purpose of marriage is to abuse the partner for selfish

> purposes, <BR>

> > Ketu will<BR>

> > > not act as a benefic. In tha casde when Ketu is in the 7th

> house <BR>

> or <BR>

> > Upapada,<BR>

> > > he may bring detachment, and a sa result, the native may not

> <BR>

> marry <BR>

> > at all.<BR>

> > > Does this menat that Ketu was a maletfic? Nopt necessarily,

> Maybe <BR>

> > he saved<BR>

> > > the native from a hellish marriage. Of course we could

> experience <BR>

> > more<BR>

> > > direct benefic effect of Mercury if he were in the 2nd or 7th

> <BR>

> from <BR>

> > Upapada<BR>

> > > or 7th house. Also in the 8th from the 7th house he may

> obstruct <BR>

> > any firther<BR>

> > > relationships after the first marriage. Also much depends on

> the <BR>

> > overall<BR>

> > > beneficence of Ketu in the chart, analysed from other

> angles.<BR>

> > > <BR>

> > > Yours,<BR>

> > > <BR>

> > > Gauranga Das Vedic Astrologer<BR>

> > >    gauranga@b...<BR>

> > >         Jyotish

> Remedies:<BR>

> > >  WWW.BRIHASPATI.NET<BR>

> > >    Phone:+36-309-140-839<BR>

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Rahu and Ketu do not have any aspects including 7th house as per classical

references. There was a misunderstanding in some schools of thought that all

planets aspect 7th. Please correct me, if it is wrong. The only thing I came

across in Tamil school of thought is 4th aspect for Venus.

 

 

>"aru_dulla" <aru_dulla

>vedic astrology

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>[vedic astrology] Re: Ketu and upapada

>Thu, 31 Jan 2002 15:37:07 -0000

>

>Dear Gauranga........First of all let me thank you for your fine

>answer. Do Rahu and Ketu have 5th and 9th aspect in addition to the

>7th aspect?

>

>thank you

>Aru

> > JAYA JAGANNATHA!

> >

> > Dear Aru,

> >

> > Namaste.

> >

> > > Dear astrologers.....I read some articles regarding ketu being a

> > > benefic for upapada. But, Ketu in 7th house is a dire malefic and

>can

> > > ruin someone's married life( My aunt had ketu in 7th house and her

> > > married life was hellish!). Then how can it be benefic for upapada

> > > but at the same time function as a malefic in the 7th house even

>if

> > > we consider ketu for the dharma purposes?

> > >

> >

> > To understand this point, you should first of all understand the

>deep

> > relationship between marriage and dharma. We say that Ketu is a

>benefic for

> > dharma, because he gives rise to spiritual knowledge and resulting

> > detachment. Thus marriage should be in tune with this direction to

>have Ketu

> > as a benefic. If the marriage aims at maintaining dharma, then Ketu

>is a

> > benefic, helping to resolve the conflicts by detachment. Ohterwise,

>if the

> > purpose of marriage is to abuse the partner for selfish purposes,

>Ketu will

> > not act as a benefic. In tha casde when Ketu is in the 7th house or

>Upapada,

> > he may bring detachment, and a sa result, the native may not marry

>at all.

> > Does this menat that Ketu was a maletfic? Nopt necessarily, Maybe

>he saved

> > the native from a hellish marriage. Of course we could experience

>more

> > direct benefic effect of Mercury if he were in the 2nd or 7th from

>Upapada

> > or 7th house. Also in the 8th from the 7th house he may obstruct

>any firther

> > relationships after the first marriage. Also much depends on the

>overall

> > beneficence of Ketu in the chart, analysed from other angles.

> >

> > Yours,

> >

> > Gauranga Das Vedic Astrologer

> > gauranga@b...

> > Jyotish Remedies:

> > WWW.BRIHASPATI.NET

> > Phone:+36-309-140-839

>

 

 

 

 

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