Guest guest Posted January 23, 2002 Report Share Posted January 23, 2002 Dear Srinagesh how can the gulika can change for the same horoscope? In my chart the gulika is in the 6th house, but sometimes it movies to the 5th or the 7th house. how is this possible? thank you aru Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 24, 2002 Report Share Posted January 24, 2002 OM dear list,GULIKA symbolises repetion of karmas. In kerala old people warns not to curse any body on Gulika,s time.They fear it will will happen even though curse is not intentional. Bad karmas should not be done at Gulikas time. It may repeat. If some body take part in funeral on Gulika time he will repeat the same in nearby days. In Prasna s position of Gulika(mandi) are taken by Acharyas prediction . Hope somebody write more about it. regards sreekumar - vankateshwara srinagesh vedic astrology Thursday, January 24, 2002 6:35 AM Re: [vedic astrology] Gulika Dear Aru_dulla Gulika is son of satrun ,It keep changing....In malyalam astrology the give much Importance to guli & yamaganda kala like rahu kala ,both the Babrimasjid & spet 11 attack took place on yamagandakala time For every day there will be Rahu kala ,Guli kala & yamagnda kala mandi is son of mars Best Regards Srinaegsh aru_dulla <aru_dulla > wrote: Dear Narasimha Rao jiI have been using the JH Lite software designed by you for quite some time now. What I have noticed is that the Gulika keeps changing to different houses from time to time. Why is this happening? Is there a way to correct this? Please advise. aru dullaArchives: vedic astrologyGroup info: vedic astrology/info.htmlTo UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology-....... May Jupiter's light shine on us ....... Auctions Great stuff seeing new owners! Bid now! Archives: vedic astrologyGroup info: vedic astrology/info.htmlTo UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology-....... May Jupiter's light shine on us ....... ____ Scanned and protected by email scanner Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 24, 2002 Report Share Posted January 24, 2002 Dear sreekumar. You wrote:- In Prasna s position of Gulika(mandi) are taken by Acharyas prediction . So you consider Gulika and Mandi to be the same. Is it really so? Has anybody else to throw any light on it? There was a posting on it about a month back on it which was not answered. Best wishes, Shiv Chadha - sreekumar vedic astrology Thursday, January 24, 2002 2:50 PM Re: [vedic astrology] Gulika OM dear list,GULIKA symbolises repetion of karmas. In kerala old people warns not to curse any body on Gulika,s time.They fear it will will happen even though curse is not intentional. Bad karmas should not be done at Gulikas time. It may repeat. If some body take part in funeral on Gulika time he will repeat the same in nearby days. In Prasna s position of Gulika(mandi) are taken by Acharyas prediction . Hope somebody write more about it. regards sreekumar - vankateshwara srinagesh vedic astrology Thursday, January 24, 2002 6:35 AM Re: [vedic astrology] Gulika Dear Aru_dulla Gulika is son of satrun ,It keep changing....In malyalam astrology the give much Importance to guli & yamaganda kala like rahu kala ,both the Babrimasjid & spet 11 attack took place on yamagandakala time For every day there will be Rahu kala ,Guli kala & yamagnda kala mandi is son of mars Best Regards Srinaegsh aru_dulla <aru_dulla > wrote: Dear Narasimha Rao jiI have been using the JH Lite software designed by you for quite some time now. What I have noticed is that the Gulika keeps changing to different houses from time to time. Why is this happening? Is there a way to correct this? Please advise. aru dullaArchives: vedic astrologyGroup info: vedic astrology/info.htmlTo UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology-....... May Jupiter's light shine on us ....... Auctions Great stuff seeing new owners! Bid now! Archives: vedic astrologyGroup info: vedic astrology/info.htmlTo UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology-....... May Jupiter's light shine on us ....... ____ Scanned and protected by email scanner Archives: vedic astrologyGroup info: vedic astrology/info.htmlTo UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology-....... May Jupiter's light shine on us ....... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 24, 2002 Report Share Posted January 24, 2002 JAYA JAGANNATHA! Dear members, Namaste. I just shortly state the version of Sanjayji on Mandi/Gulika controversion. He says that most classics do not differentiate between them. However, Sarwartha Cintamani seems to make a difference between the two Upagrahas, which makes us think that there should be separate methods fro calculation the positions of each. Both rise at the portion lorded by Saturn, however Mandi will rise at the beginning, while Gulika in the middle of it. So many times they will fall into the same house, but not always. So, being the Upagrahas linked to Saturn, they will give similar malefic effects to him. However, there's some difference between the two. Mandi will indicate the poison inflicted to others, while Gulika will indicate the poison inflicted to the native. Thus Gulika Dasa (Vimsottari dasa based on Gulika's position) may be useful for timing poisoning or intoxication etc. I may be confusing the two, please check in archives. Narasimha has given mails about this. Yours, Gauranga Das Vedic Astrologer gauranga (AT) brihaspati (DOT) net Jyotish Remedies: WWW.BRIHASPATI.NET Phone:+36-309-140-839 Dear sreekumar. You wrote:- In Prasna s position of Gulika(mandi) are taken by Acharyas prediction . So you consider Gulika and Mandi to be the same. Is it really so? Has anybody else to throw any light on it? There was a posting on it about a month back on it which was not answered. Best wishes, Shiv Chadha - sreekumar vedic astrology Thursday, January 24, 2002 2:50 PM Re: [vedic astrology] Gulika OM dear list,GULIKA symbolises repetion of karmas. In kerala old people warns not to curse any body on Gulika,s time.They fear it will will happen even though curse is not intentional. Bad karmas should not be done at Gulikas time. It may repeat. If some body take part in funeral on Gulika time he will repeat the same in nearby days. In Prasna s position of Gulika(mandi) are taken by Acharyas prediction . Hope somebody write more about it. regards sreekumar - vankateshwara srinagesh vedic astrology Thursday, January 24, 2002 6:35 AM Re: [vedic astrology] Gulika Dear Aru_dulla Gulika is son of satrun ,It keep changing....In malyalam astrology the give much Importance to guli & yamaganda kala like rahu kala ,both the Babrimasjid & spet 11 attack took place on yamagandakala time For every day there will be Rahu kala ,Guli kala & yamagnda kala mandi is son of mars Best Regards Srinaegsh aru_dulla <aru_dulla > wrote: Dear Narasimha Rao jiI have been using the JH Lite software designed by you for quite some time now. What I have noticed is that the Gulika keeps changing to different houses from time to time. Why is this happening? Is there a way to correct this? Please advise. aru dullaArchives: vedic astrologyGroup info: vedic astrology/info.htmlTo UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology-....... May Jupiter's light shine on us ....... Auctions Great stuff seeing new owners! Bid now! Archives: vedic astrologyGroup info: vedic astrology/info.htmlTo UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology-....... May Jupiter's light shine on us ....... ____ Scanned and protected by email scanner Archives: vedic astrologyGroup info: vedic astrology/info.htmlTo UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology-....... May Jupiter's light shine on us ....... Archives: vedic astrologyGroup info: vedic astrology/info.htmlTo UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology-....... May Jupiter's light shine on us ....... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 24, 2002 Report Share Posted January 24, 2002 OM Dear list members, Please refer Editorial articles on Astrological magazine November 1997 issue and March 1998 issue . Mrs. Gayatri devi vasudev had done wonderful research on the subject. She says only in PrasnaMmarga both are considered same. Fifteen years ago one of my learned Guru told me why you are bothered about Guliga it is considered for death time only. He often used both word Mandi and Gulika. He is a practicing prasna astrologer and may be following Prasna Marga. Somebody having backcopies of AM please help Siv chadha sir by sharing the copies of above said articles. regards, sreekumar - Gauranga Das vedic astrology Thursday, January 24, 2002 10:36 PM Re: [vedic astrology] Gulika JAYA JAGANNATHA! Dear members, Namaste. I just shortly state the version of Sanjayji on Mandi/Gulika controversion. He says that most classics do not differentiate between them. However, Sarwartha Cintamani seems to make a difference between the two Upagrahas, which makes us think that there should be separate methods fro calculation the positions of each. Both rise at the portion lorded by Saturn, however Mandi will rise at the beginning, while Gulika in the middle of it. So many times they will fall into the same house, but not always. So, being the Upagrahas linked to Saturn, they will give similar malefic effects to him. However, there's some difference between the two. Mandi will indicate the poison inflicted to others, while Gulika will indicate the poison inflicted to the native. Thus Gulika Dasa (Vimsottari dasa based on Gulika's position) may be useful for timing poisoning or intoxication etc. I may be confusing the two, please check in archives. Narasimha has given mails about this. Yours, Gauranga Das Vedic Astrologer gauranga (AT) brihaspati (DOT) net Jyotish Remedies: WWW.BRIHASPATI.NET Phone:+36-309-140-839 Dear sreekumar. You wrote:- In Prasna s position of Gulika(mandi) are taken by Acharyas prediction . So you consider Gulika and Mandi to be the same. Is it really so? Has anybody else to throw any light on it? There was a posting on it about a month back on it which was not answered. Best wishes, Shiv Chadha - sreekumar vedic astrology Thursday, January 24, 2002 2:50 PM Re: [vedic astrology] Gulika OM dear list,GULIKA symbolises repetion of karmas. In kerala old people warns not to curse any body on Gulika,s time.They fear it will will happen even though curse is not intentional. Bad karmas should not be done at Gulikas time. It may repeat. If some body take part in funeral on Gulika time he will repeat the same in nearby days. In Prasna s position of Gulika(mandi) are taken by Acharyas prediction . Hope somebody write more about it. regards sreekumar - vankateshwara srinagesh vedic astrology Thursday, January 24, 2002 6:35 AM Re: [vedic astrology] Gulika Dear Aru_dulla Gulika is son of satrun ,It keep changing....In malyalam astrology the give much Importance to guli & yamaganda kala like rahu kala ,both the Babrimasjid & spet 11 attack took place on yamagandakala time For every day there will be Rahu kala ,Guli kala & yamagnda kala mandi is son of mars Best Regards Srinaegsh aru_dulla <aru_dulla > wrote: Dear Narasimha Rao jiI have been using the JH Lite software designed by you for quite some time now. What I have noticed is that the Gulika keeps changing to different houses from time to time. Why is this happening? Is there a way to correct this? Please advise. aru dullaArchives: vedic astrologyGroup info: vedic astrology/info.htmlTo UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology-....... May Jupiter's light shine on us ....... Auctions Great stuff seeing new owners! Bid now! Archives: vedic astrologyGroup info: vedic astrology/info.htmlTo UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology-....... May Jupiter's light shine on us ....... ____ Scanned and protected by email scanner Archives: vedic astrologyGroup info: vedic astrology/info.htmlTo UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology-....... May Jupiter's light shine on us ....... Archives: vedic astrologyGroup info: vedic astrology/info.htmlTo UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology-....... May Jupiter's light shine on us ....... Archives: vedic astrologyGroup info: vedic astrology/info.htmlTo UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology-....... May Jupiter's light shine on us ....... ____ Scanned and protected by email scanner Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 24, 2002 Report Share Posted January 24, 2002 Dear Sreekumar, I have this back issue of AM and I will read it. Thanks Shiv Chadha - sreekumar vedic astrology Friday, January 25, 2002 9:06 AM Re: [vedic astrology] Gulika OM Dear list members, Please refer Editorial articles on Astrological magazine November 1997 issue and March 1998 issue . Mrs. Gayatri devi vasudev had done wonderful research on the subject. She says only in PrasnaMmarga both are considered same. Fifteen years ago one of my learned Guru told me why you are bothered about Guliga it is considered for death time only. He often used both word Mandi and Gulika. He is a practicing prasna astrologer and may be following Prasna Marga. Somebody having backcopies of AM please help Siv chadha sir by sharing the copies of above said articles. regards, sreekumar - Gauranga Das vedic astrology Thursday, January 24, 2002 10:36 PM Re: [vedic astrology] Gulika JAYA JAGANNATHA! Dear members, Namaste. I just shortly state the version of Sanjayji on Mandi/Gulika controversion. He says that most classics do not differentiate between them. However, Sarwartha Cintamani seems to make a difference between the two Upagrahas, which makes us think that there should be separate methods fro calculation the positions of each. Both rise at the portion lorded by Saturn, however Mandi will rise at the beginning, while Gulika in the middle of it. So many times they will fall into the same house, but not always. So, being the Upagrahas linked to Saturn, they will give similar malefic effects to him. However, there's some difference between the two. Mandi will indicate the poison inflicted to others, while Gulika will indicate the poison inflicted to the native. Thus Gulika Dasa (Vimsottari dasa based on Gulika's position) may be useful for timing poisoning or intoxication etc. I may be confusing the two, please check in archives. Narasimha has given mails about this. Yours, Gauranga Das Vedic Astrologer gauranga (AT) brihaspati (DOT) net Jyotish Remedies: WWW.BRIHASPATI.NET Phone:+36-309-140-839 Dear sreekumar. You wrote:- In Prasna s position of Gulika(mandi) are taken by Acharyas prediction . So you consider Gulika and Mandi to be the same. Is it really so? Has anybody else to throw any light on it? There was a posting on it about a month back on it which was not answered. Best wishes, Shiv Chadha - sreekumar vedic astrology Thursday, January 24, 2002 2:50 PM Re: [vedic astrology] Gulika OM dear list,GULIKA symbolises repetion of karmas. In kerala old people warns not to curse any body on Gulika,s time.They fear it will will happen even though curse is not intentional. Bad karmas should not be done at Gulikas time. It may repeat. If some body take part in funeral on Gulika time he will repeat the same in nearby days. In Prasna s position of Gulika(mandi) are taken by Acharyas prediction . Hope somebody write more about it. regards sreekumar - vankateshwara srinagesh vedic astrology Thursday, January 24, 2002 6:35 AM Re: [vedic astrology] Gulika Dear Aru_dulla Gulika is son of satrun ,It keep changing....In malyalam astrology the give much Importance to guli & yamaganda kala like rahu kala ,both the Babrimasjid & spet 11 attack took place on yamagandakala time For every day there will be Rahu kala ,Guli kala & yamagnda kala mandi is son of mars Best Regards Srinaegsh aru_dulla <aru_dulla > wrote: Dear Narasimha Rao jiI have been using the JH Lite software designed by you for quite some time now. What I have noticed is that the Gulika keeps changing to different houses from time to time. Why is this happening? Is there a way to correct this? Please advise. aru dullaArchives: vedic astrologyGroup info: vedic astrology/info.htmlTo UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology-....... May Jupiter's light shine on us ....... Auctions Great stuff seeing new owners! Bid now! Archives: vedic astrologyGroup info: vedic astrology/info.htmlTo UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology-....... May Jupiter's light shine on us ....... ____ Scanned and protected by email scanner Archives: vedic astrologyGroup info: vedic astrology/info.htmlTo UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology-....... May Jupiter's light shine on us ....... Archives: vedic astrologyGroup info: vedic astrology/info.htmlTo UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology-....... May Jupiter's light shine on us ....... Archives: vedic astrologyGroup info: vedic astrology/info.htmlTo UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology-....... May Jupiter's light shine on us ....... ____ Scanned and protected by email scanner Archives: vedic astrologyGroup info: vedic astrology/info.htmlTo UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology-....... May Jupiter's light shine on us ....... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 24, 2002 Report Share Posted January 24, 2002 Namaste Gauranga, You wrote: <<I just shortly state the version of Sanjayji on Mandi/Gulika controversion. He says that most classics do not differentiate between them. However, Sarwartha Cintamani seems to make a difference between the two Upagrahas, which makes us think that there should be separate methods fro calculation the positions of each. Both rise at the portion lorded by Saturn, however Mandi will rise at the beginning, while Gulika in the middle of it. So many times they will fall into the same house, but not always. So, being the Upagrahas linked to Saturn, they will give similar malefic effects to him. However, there's some difference between the two. Mandi will indicate the poison inflicted to others, while Gulika will indicate the poison inflicted to the native. Thus Gulika Dasa (Vimsottari dasa based on Gulika's position) may be useful for timing poisoning or intoxication etc. I may be confusing the two, please check in archives. Narasimha has given mails about this.>> I write: Yes, I am afraid you are confusing between the two. Gulika rises at the beginning of Saturn's portion and Mandi in the middle. Gulika shows the poison going from us to the world. He shows the sins we commit towards others. Mandi shows the poison coming to us from the world. He shows the troubles given to us by the world. The two together complete the cycle of karma. Beginning of Saturn's portion shows our bad karma and the middle of Saturn's portion shows punishment for it. Sanjay said that we cannot start Vimsottari dasa from the position of Gulika. But we can start Vimsottari dasa from the longitude of Mandi instead of Moon. This can show suffering inflicted on the native. May Jupiter's light shine on us, Narasimha Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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