Maha Sankya Yoga

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Dear List,

 

Saikumar wrote:

 

>>>In continuation of the discussion I would like to

understand if this horoscope has a Maha sankya yoga

because the Kala Sarpa Yoga is broken by Moon.

 

May I ask, I'd been wondering for awhile if the planet that breaks KSY in

any chart represents something or is given special consideration in a chart.

 

>From seeing these posts it is clear that the Moon is then given a special

Yoga. Is this true with other planets as well - that they would then have a

Yoga status or would the planet have some other special consideration in

viewing the chart? If the planet does have a Yoga for this, is the Yoga's

name the same as if it's the Moon breaking the KSY?

 

Many thanks,

Patrice

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Dear Saikumar,

 

As per Sanajy Guruji's teaching:

The Yoga generated by breaking of KSY or KAY by the Moon is called MAHA-SANKHA YOGA.

 

There is also a Gaja Kesari Yoga in this chart, as MO & JU are in mutually

Kendra positions, though I am not sure about the strenghth of this yoga, with

JU being lord of two malefic houses and MO occupying one of them.

 

VE in 9H and SA, own its own but also because it is in 10H also cause Raja Yoga.

 

Lagna being outside the RA-KE arc also weakens the KSY.

 

Overall, I would think the KSY would not be very severe.

 

I hope Gurus will correct any errors in my understanding, as I am only a beginner in Jyotish.

 

With best wishes,

 

Shailesh Chandra Chadhascchadha (AT) hotmail (DOT) com

 

-

ssk

vedic astrology

Monday, January 21, 2002 11:10 PM

[vedic astrology] Maha Sankya Yoga

Namasthe Guruji's In continuation of the discussion I would like tounderstand if

this horoscope has a Maha sankya yogabecause the Kala Sarpa Yoga is broken by

Moon.Please elaborate and help

meSaikumar************************************************** *

* * ** * * * Venu **

* * Mars * Jupt ** Moon * *

* ** Ketu * * * ** *

* * ** * * *

*************************************************** *

* Sun ** * * **

* * ** * * Satn

** * * ** *

* ** * *

************** Rasi ************** *

* ** * * Merc **

* * ** * *

** * * ** *

* ** * *

*************************************************** * *

Lagn * ** * * * **

* * * ** * * *

** * * * Rahu ** *

Nept * Uran * ** * * * Plut

**************************************************--- Shailesh

<scchadha (AT) hotmail (DOT) com> wrote:> Dear Chandru,> > To repeat an overused phrase,

one should comment> after seeing the entire chart - there may be other>

important factors. > > Based on the information given by you, it is a>

Kal-Sarpa Yoga, as the leading planet is RA, in> 10th.> > Please also note that

the Lagna is outside - this> means a lighter effect.> > Any planet joining the

nodes can break the KSY, but> those joining the leading planet - RA in this

case-> will have more effect.> > The KSY/KAY Yoga may also be broken by

benefics in> 1st or 7th house, or due to presence of any other> strong yoga in

the chart.> I hope this is helpful - this is my understanding;> Gurus may

kindly confirm or correct me.> > With best wishes,> > Shailesh Chandra Chadha>

scchadha (AT) hotmail (DOT) com> > - > Chandru

Vasandani > vedic astrology > Monday, January 21,

2002 12:40 AM> Re: [vedic astrology] Re: Kal Sarpa Yog> > > Hello

Shailesh,> > Talking about KSY/KAY what if Rahu and Ketu are> both> in

conjunction with other planets. The case I am> referring to has Ketu with

Jupiter in 4th House> and> rahu with Saturn in 10th House. > > The person

is really struggling with his career> and> day to day life, when do you think

the effects of> this> KSY/KAY yoga come to an end.> > Thanx> CV> ---

Shailesh <scchadha (AT) hotmail (DOT) com> wrote:> > Dear Srimagesh,> > > > As per

Sanjay ji's teaching, KSY & KAY last till> > 43/41 years respectively, unless

broken by any> > planet conjucting either of the nodes - in which> > case

the natural age of that conjuncting planet> will> > provide the duration of

the yoga.> > > > In addition to Sri Kalahasti, I am told there is> a> >

temple near Nasik also, and some claim it to be> more> > powerful- though I

have no first hand> information or> > knowledge,> > > > Shailesh Chandra

Chadha> > scchadha (AT) hotmail (DOT) com> > - > >

vankateshwara srinagesh > > vedic astrology > >

Wednesday, January 16, 2002 1:13 AM> > Re:

[vedic astrology] Re: Kal Sarpa> Yog> > > > > > Dear All > > > >

All the planets falling btw rahu & ketu -kala> > sarpa yoga > > > > All

the planets falling btw ketu & rahu -kala> > amrita yoga > > > > > >

> > The Kala sarpa yoga has effect till 31 years> only > > & If a person

visits a place called Sri> kalahasti in> > India > > > > the effect of

kala sarpa yoga gets> > nullified......... > > > > Best Regards > > >

> Srinagesh > > > > Visti Larsen <in_joy_i_scream >> wrote:

> > > > Vyam Vysadevaya Namah!> >

----------> > Dear Krishna,> >

Maha Sankya Yoga takes place, when the Yoga> is> > broken by moon.> >

Maha Padma = Jupiter. And Malavya = Venus.> > Best wishes, Visti.> >

- > > Krishna Savani > > To:

Vedic Astrology > > Tuesday, January 15, 2002 2:28 AM> >

[vedic astrology] Re: Kal Sarpa> Yog> > > > > > Dear

Visti,> > > > Thanks for your reply. Does Lagna Lord in> > Lagna

break the Kal Amrita Yog? Is this the only> > requirement for arising Maha

Sankya Yog?> > > > I have a similar case with Rahu/Ketu in> >

11th/5th houses, in Gem/Sag. Lagna is Leo and> the> > Sun is disposited in

the lagna. Does the Maha> Sankya> > yog take effect in my case? I am

attaching my> JHD> > horoscope.> > > > Thanks a lot,> >

Krishna.> > > > vedic astrology, "Visti> Larsen"> >

<in_joy_i_scream> wrote:> > > Vyam Vysadevaya Namh!> > >>

-----------> > > Dear Krishna,> >

> You have noticed something quite> > interesting, which we have discussed

on> > > SJVC. Nehru has the Kala Amrita Yoga> broken> > by Moon. This

causes Maha Sankya> > > Yoga, and produces the "first of its> kind"> >

in its Era.> > > > > > Best wishes, Visti.> > > > >

> > > > -> > > Krishna

Savani> > > Vedic Astrology> > > Monday, January

14, 2002 2:09 AM> > > [vedic astrology] Kal Sarpa> Yog> >

> > > > > > > Dear Friends,> > > > > >

I have noticed some important aspects> of> > the Kal Sarpa and Kal Amrita>

> > Yogs. The current President George Bush> has> > the Kal Amrita Yog

with Rahu in> > > 11th and Ketu in 5th, and a strong> Lagna. No> >

planets conjunct rahu or ketu,> > > which are in taurus/scorpio. It is>

> interesting to note that Bush does not> > > have a single planet

exalted.> > > > > > Jawaharlal Nehru has a similar Kal>

Amrita> > Yog with Rahu/Ketu in 12th and> > > 6th, in Gem/Sag, and

Ketu conjunct with> the> > Jupiter. Lagna lord was in> > > lagna.>

> > > > > Is it possible that Kal Amrita Yog in> > certain

conditions like being> > > present in certain houses, strong first> >

house, exalted or mulatrikona,> > > convert into a Raj Yog? It seems>

> particularly believable in the case of> > > George Bush.> > >

> > > I await your enlightening opinions on> this> > subject.> ===

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Dear Patrice,

 

The KSY/KAY can be broken, or weakened, by ANY BENEFIC joining either of the

nodes OR the 1st or 7th house.

 

Each of these combinations have a separate name - JU causing the break is called Maha-Padma Yoga.

 

Presence of (1) lagna outside the RA-KE arc, or (2) presence of stron benefic

yogas in the chart also considerably weakens the KSY/ KAY, the key factor being

the position and strenght of the yoa, and yoga-karaka planets.

 

Further, the significator represented ( their natural or chara karakatwa) by

such planets will be the key to break/ weakening of the suffering threatened by

KSY/ KAY [ your query - if the planet that breaks KSY in any chart represents

something or is given special consideration in a chart].

 

I hope Gurus will correct any errors in my understanding, as I am only a beginner in Jyotish.

 

With best wishes,

 

Shailesh Chandra Chadhascchadha (AT) hotmail (DOT) com

-

Patrice Curry

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Tuesday, January 22, 2002 3:34 AM

Re: [vedic astrology] Maha Sankya Yoga

Dear List,Saikumar wrote:>>>In continuation of the discussion I would like

tounderstand if this horoscope has a Maha sankya yogabecause the Kala Sarpa

Yoga is broken by Moon.May I ask, I'd been wondering for awhile if the planet

that breaks KSY inany chart represents something or is given special

consideration in a chart.From seeing these posts it is clear that the Moon is

then given a specialYoga. Is this true with other planets as well - that they

would then have aYoga status or would the planet have some other special

consideration inviewing the chart? If the planet does have a Yoga for this, is

the Yoga'sname the same as if it's the Moon breaking the KSY?Many

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Best Regards

Srinagesh

ssk <astrossk > wrote: Namasthe Guruji's In continuation of the

discussion I would like tounderstand if this horoscope has a Maha sankya

yogabecause the Kala Sarpa Yoga is broken by Moon.Please elaborate and help

meSaikumar************************************************** *

* * ** * * * Venu **

* * Mars * Jupt ** Moon * *

* ** Ketu * * * ** *

* * ** * * *

*************************************************** *

* Sun ** * * **

* * ** * * Satn

** * * ** *

* ** * *

************** Rasi ************** *

* ** * * Merc **

* * ** * *

** * * ** *

* ** * *

*************************************************** * *

Lagn * ** * * * **

* * * ** * * *

** * * * Rahu ** *

Nept * Uran * ** * * * Plut

**************************************************--- Shailesh

<scchadha (AT) hotmail (DOT) com> wrote:> Dear Chandru,> > To repeat an overused phrase,

one should comment> after seeing the entire chart - there may be other>

important factors. > > Based on the information given by you, it is a>

Kal-Sarpa Yoga, as the leading planet is RA, in> 10th.> > Please also note that

the Lagna is outside - this> means a lighter effect.> > Any planet joining the

nodes can break the KSY, but> those joining the leading planet - RA in this

case-> will have more effect.> > The KSY/KAY Yoga may also be broken by

benefics in> 1st or 7th house, or due to presence of any other> strong yoga in

the chart.> I hope this is helpful - this is my understanding;> Gurus may

kindly confirm or correct me.> > With best wishes,> > Shailesh Chandra Chadha>

scchadha (AT) hotmail (DOT) com> > - > Chandru

Vasandani > vedic astrology > Monday, January 21,

2002 12:40 AM> Re: [vedic astrology] Re: Kal Sarpa Yog> > > Hello

Shailesh,> > Talking about KSY/KAY what if Rahu and Ketu are> both> in

conjunction with other planets. The case I am> referring to has Ketu with

Jupiter in 4th House> and> rahu with Saturn in 10th House. > > The person

is really struggling with his career> and> day to day life, when do you think

the effects of> this> KSY/KAY yoga come to an end.> > Thanx> CV> ---

Shailesh <scchadha (AT) hotmail (DOT) com> wrote:> > Dear Srimagesh,> > > > As per

Sanjay ji's teaching, KSY & KAY last till> > 43/41 years respectively, unless

broken by any> > planet conjucting either of the nodes - in which> > case

the natural age of that conjuncting planet> will> > provide the duration of

the yoga.> > > > In addition to Sri Kalahasti, I am told there is> a> >

temple near Nasik also, and some claim it to be> more> > powerful- though I

have no first hand> information or> > knowledge,> > > > Shailesh Chandra

Chadha> > scchadha (AT) hotmail (DOT) com> > - > >

vankateshwara srinagesh > > vedic astrology > >

Wednesday, January 16, 2002 1:13 AM> > Re:

[vedic astrology] Re: Kal Sarpa> Yog> > > > > > Dear All > > > >

All the planets falling btw rahu & ketu -kala> > sarpa yoga > > > > All

the planets falling btw ketu & rahu -kala> > amrita yoga > > > > > >

> > The Kala sarpa yoga has effect till 31 years> only > > & If a person

visits a place called Sri> kalahasti in> > India > > > > the effect of

kala sarpa yoga gets> > nullified......... > > > > Best Regards > > >

> Srinagesh > > > > Visti Larsen <in_joy_i_scream >> wrote:

> > > > Vyam Vysadevaya Namah!> >

----------> > Dear Krishna,> >

Maha Sankya Yoga takes place, when the Yoga> is> > broken by moon.> >

Maha Padma = Jupiter. And Malavya = Venus.> > Best wishes, Visti.> >

- > > Krishna Savani > > To:

Vedic Astrology > > Tuesday, January 15, 2002 2:28 AM> >

[vedic astrology] Re: Kal Sarpa> Yog> > > > > > Dear

Visti,> > > > Thanks for your reply. Does Lagna Lord in> > Lagna

break the Kal Amrita Yog? Is this the only> > requirement for arising Maha

Sankya Yog?> > > > I have a similar case with Rahu/Ketu in> >

11th/5th houses, in Gem/Sag. Lagna is Leo and> the> > Sun is disposited in

the lagna. Does the Maha> Sankya> > yog take effect in my case? I am

attaching my> JHD> > horoscope.> > > > Thanks a lot,> >

Krishna.> > > > vedic astrology, "Visti> Larsen"> >

<in_joy_i_scream> wrote:> > > Vyam Vysadevaya Namh!> > >>

-----------> > > Dear Krishna,> >

> You have noticed something quite> > interesting, which we have discussed

on> > > SJVC. Nehru has the Kala Amrita Yoga> broken> > by Moon. This

causes Maha Sankya> > > Yoga, and produces the "first of its> kind"> >

in its Era.> > > > > > Best wishes, Visti.> > > > >

> > > > -> > > Krishna

Savani> > > Vedic Astrology> > > Monday, January

14, 2002 2:09 AM> > > [vedic astrology] Kal Sarpa> Yog> >

> > > > > > > Dear Friends,> > > > > >

I have noticed some important aspects> of> > the Kal Sarpa and Kal Amrita>

> > Yogs. The current President George Bush> has> > the Kal Amrita Yog

with Rahu in> > > 11th and Ketu in 5th, and a strong> Lagna. No> >

planets conjunct rahu or ketu,> > > which are in taurus/scorpio. It is>

> interesting to note that Bush does not> > > have a single planet

exalted.> > > > > > Jawaharlal Nehru has a similar Kal>

Amrita> > Yog with Rahu/Ketu in 12th and> > > 6th, in Gem/Sag, and

Ketu conjunct with> the> > Jupiter. Lagna lord was in> > > lagna.>

> > > > > Is it possible that Kal Amrita Yog in> > certain

conditions like being> > > present in certain houses, strong first> >

house, exalted or mulatrikona,> > > convert into a Raj Yog? It seems>

> particularly believable in the case of> > > George Bush.> > >

> > > I await your enlightening opinions on> this> > subject.> ===

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Dear Shailesh,

 

Thank you for your response and explanation. I have asked many beginner

questions in the past week and I am grateful for your time, responses and

clarification.

 

For practical clarification this example: This chart has Ketu in 12H/Rahu 6H,

with all planets either joined or between. Ketu is alone but Rahu has Sun and

Mercury conjoined. Looking at degrees Mercury 5, Sun is 17, Rahu 21. Reversing

degrees for Rahu for constant Retrograde motion would put Sun outside of this,

but still joined in same house and Sun as a Malefic. This then would not break

KAY? If this were Jupiter instead of Sun, this would be considered as a broken

KAY and a MahaPadma Yoga just by conjoining Rahu, so degrees need not be

considered. I guess my being unclear stems from a situation such as this with

Sun and the degree is outside all the planets being "in between".

 

Many thanks Shailesh.

 

Best wishes,

Patrice

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Hi Srinagesh,

 

Here is the list of degrees that you have requested

for.

 

Planetary position

----------------------------

Planet Longitude Rasi Nakshatraname Pada

Direct/ret

----------------------------

Sun 107.30 4 Aslesha 1 Dir

Merc 134.02 5 Purvaphal 1 Dir

Venu 67.02 3 Ardra 1 Dir

Mars 47.87 2 Rohini 3 Dir

Jupt 63.26 3 Mrigasiras 3 Dir

Satn 115.65 4 Aslesha 3 Dir

Moon 336.54 12 Uttarbadra 1 Dir

Rahu 174.99 6 Chitra 1 Ret

Ketu 354.99 12 Revati 3 Ret

Uran 194.29 7 Svati 3 Dir

Nept 229.93 8 Jyestha 1 Ret

Plut 168.36 6 Hastha 3 Dir

----------------------------

 

Regards

Saikumar

--- vankateshwara srinagesh <sri999 wrote:

>

> pls mention the degrees of moon & ketu in the

> Meenam

>

> Best Regards

> Srinagesh

> ssk <astrossk wrote: Namasthe Guruji's

>

> In continuation of the discussion I would like to

> understand if this horoscope has a Maha sankya yoga

> because the Kala Sarpa Yoga is broken by Moon.

>

> Please elaborate and help me

> Saikumar

>

>

>

> *************************************************

> * * * * *

> * * * * Venu *

> * * * Mars * Jupt *

> * Moon * * * *

> * Ketu * * * *

> * * * * *

> * * * * *

> *************************************************

> * * * Sun *

> * * * *

> * * * *

> * * * Satn *

> * * * *

> * * * *

> * * * *

> ************* Rasi *************

> * * * *

> * * * Merc *

> * * * *

> * * * *

> * * * *

> * * * *

> * * * *

> *************************************************

> * * * Lagn * *

> * * * * *

> * * * * *

> * * * * *

> * * * * Rahu *

> * * Nept * Uran * *

> * * * * Plut *

> *************************************************

>

> --- Shailesh <scchadha wrote:

> > Dear Chandru,

> >

> > To repeat an overused phrase, one should comment

> > after seeing the entire chart - there may be other

> > important factors.

> >

> > Based on the information given by you, it is a

> > Kal-Sarpa Yoga, as the leading planet is RA, in

> > 10th.

> >

> > Please also note that the Lagna is outside - this

> > means a lighter effect.

> >

> > Any planet joining the nodes can break the KSY,

> but

> > those joining the leading planet - RA in this

> case-

> > will have more effect.

> >

> > The KSY/KAY Yoga may also be broken by benefics in

> > 1st or 7th house, or due to presence of any other

> > strong yoga in the chart.

> > I hope this is helpful - this is my understanding;

> > Gurus may kindly confirm or correct me.

> >

> > With best wishes,

> >

> > Shailesh Chandra Chadha

> > scchadha

> >

> > -

> > Chandru Vasandani

> > vedic astrology

> > Monday, January 21, 2002 12:40 AM

> > Re: [vedic astrology] Re: Kal Sarpa Yog

> >

> >

> > Hello Shailesh,

> >

> > Talking about KSY/KAY what if Rahu and Ketu are

> > both

> > in conjunction with other planets. The case I am

> > referring to has Ketu with Jupiter in 4th House

> > and

> > rahu with Saturn in 10th House.

> >

> > The person is really struggling with his career

> > and

> > day to day life, when do you think the effects

> of

> > this

> > KSY/KAY yoga come to an end.

> >

> > Thanx

> > CV

> > --- Shailesh <scchadha wrote:

> > > Dear Srimagesh,

> > >

> > > As per Sanjay ji's teaching, KSY & KAY last

> till

> > > 43/41 years respectively, unless broken by any

> > > planet conjucting either of the nodes - in

> which

> > > case the natural age of that conjuncting

> planet

> > will

> > > provide the duration of the yoga.

> > >

> > > In addition to Sri Kalahasti, I am told there

> is

> > a

> > > temple near Nasik also, and some claim it to

> be

> > more

> > > powerful- though I have no first hand

> > information or

> > > knowledge,

> > >

> > > Shailesh Chandra Chadha

> > > scchadha

> > > -

> > > vankateshwara srinagesh

> > > vedic astrology

> > > Wednesday, January 16, 2002 1:13 AM

> > > Re: [vedic astrology] Re: Kal Sarpa

> > Yog

> > >

> > >

> > > Dear All

> > >

> > > All the planets falling btw rahu & ketu

> -kala

> > > sarpa yoga

> > >

> > > All the planets falling btw ketu & rahu

> -kala

> > > amrita yoga

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > The Kala sarpa yoga has effect till 31 years

> > only

> > > & If a person visits a place called Sri

> > kalahasti in

> > > India

> > >

> > > the effect of kala sarpa yoga gets

> > > nullified.........

> > >

> > > Best Regards

> > >

> > > Srinagesh

> > >

> > > Visti Larsen <in_joy_i_scream

> > wrote:

> > >

> > > Vyam Vysadevaya Namah!

> > >

> ----------

> > > Dear Krishna,

> > > Maha Sankya Yoga takes place, when the

> Yoga

> > is

> > > broken by moon.

> > > Maha Padma = Jupiter. And Malavya = Venus.

> > > Best wishes, Visti.

> > > -

> > > Krishna Savani

> > > Vedic Astrology

> > > Tuesday, January 15, 2002 2:28 AM

> > > [vedic astrology] Re: Kal Sarpa

> > Yog

> > >

> > >

> > > Dear Visti,

> > >

> > > Thanks for your reply. Does Lagna Lord

> in

> > > Lagna break the Kal Amrita Yog? Is this the

> only

> > > requirement for arising Maha Sankya Yog?

> > >

> > > I have a similar case with Rahu/Ketu in

> > > 11th/5th houses, in Gem/Sag. Lagna is Leo and

> > the

> > > Sun is disposited in the lagna. Does the Maha

> > Sankya

> > > yog take effect in my case? I am attaching my

> > JHD

>

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Dear Saikumar,

 

Thanks for re-posting this entire thread, stock full of information on KSY

and KAY. I had missed these.

 

Best regards,

Patrice

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Vyam Vysadevaya Namah

-----

Dear Patrice,

Forget the degrees, all the benefics joining either of

the Nodes, or placed in Lagna or 7th houses, will

break the Sarpa/Amrita.

 

If a Graha, who breaks the yoga is in the begining of

the sign, whilst the nodes is in the end, it means

that the two grahas are moving towards each other, and

it shows that the breaking of the Yoga will be very

intense due to grahas coming increasingly closer to

each other.

 

Just like two opponents coming closer and closer to

each other. This is however a different aspect of

predictive astrology.

 

Best wishes, Visti.

 

--- Patrice Curry <patrice.curry wrote:

> Dear Shailesh,

>

> Thank you for your response and explanation. I have

> asked many beginner questions in the past week and I

> am grateful for your time, responses and

> clarification.

>

> For practical clarification this example: This chart

> has Ketu in 12H/Rahu 6H, with all planets either

> joined or between. Ketu is alone but Rahu has Sun

> and Mercury conjoined. Looking at degrees Mercury 5,

> Sun is 17, Rahu 21. Reversing degrees for Rahu for

> constant Retrograde motion would put Sun outside of

> this, but still joined in same house and Sun as a

> Malefic. This then would not break KAY? If this were

> Jupiter instead of Sun, this would be considered as

> a broken KAY and a MahaPadma Yoga just by conjoining

> Rahu, so degrees need not be considered. I guess my

> being unclear stems from a situation such as this

> with Sun and the degree is outside all the planets

> being "in between".

>

> Many thanks Shailesh.

>

> Best wishes,

> Patrice

>

>

 

 

 

 

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Dear Visti,

 

Many thanks for your help and clarifying this with regard to degrees.

 

Also you wrote:

 

>>>If a Graha, who breaks the yoga is in the begining of

the sign, whilst the nodes is in the end, it means

that the two grahas are moving towards each other, and

it shows that the breaking of the Yoga will be very intense

due to grahas coming increasingly closer to

each other.

 

>>>Just like two opponents coming closer and closer to

each other. This is however a different aspect of

predictive astrology.

 

Also, thanks for explaining this further logic Visti, very helpful.

 

Best wishes,

Patrice

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Dear Patrice,

 

I have inserted my comments - I hope it helps.

 

I have also pasted Visti's mail to another list (GJList) on this subject which I

find to be very educative.

 

Best wishes,

 

Shailesh scchadha (AT) hotmail (DOT) com

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Patrice Curry

vedic astrology

Tuesday, January 22, 2002 9:42 PM

Re: [vedic astrology] Maha Sankya Yoga

Dear Shailesh,

 

Thank you for your response and explanation. I have asked many beginner

questions in the past week and I am grateful for your time, responses and

clarification.

 

Well, I am much more junior to you as far as learning and knowledge to jyotish

goes - I started serious study less than 2 years back when I moved above

newspaper astro-column and Linda Goodman, etc.

 

For practical clarification this example: This chart has Ketu in 12H/Rahu 6H,

with all planets either joined or between. Ketu is alone but Rahu has Sun and

Mercury conjoined. Looking at degrees Mercury 5, Sun is 17, Rahu 21. Reversing

degrees for Rahu for constant Retrograde motion would put Sun outside of this,

but still joined in same house and Sun as a Malefic.

 

RA's degree are reversed only for calculating its progress within the Rasi (for

calculating strenght) - here we are concerned with the position - so take only

actual degrees.

 

I am not sure whether we should consider SU as a malefic in connection with

breaking of KSY/ KAY, as we are looking at positive spirituality of the

conjoining planets.

 

This then would not break KAY? If this were Jupiter instead of Sun, this would

be considered as a broken KAY and a MahaPadma Yoga just by conjoining Rahu, so

degrees need not be considered. I guess my being unclear stems from a situation

such as this with Sun and the degree is outside all the planets being "in

between".

 

Sun's conj. should break the KAY - and please also look for benefics in 7H.

 

And lagna is also outside the RA/KE arc.

 

Many thanks Shailesh.

 

Best wishes,

Patrice

 

VISTI's MAIL

 

Vyam Vysadevaya Namah

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Dear Wendy and Parveen,

 

I was taught this by my Guru. Wendy, you can close your eyes now .

 

When Rahu is first to transit all the planets and Luminaries, before Ketu, then

there is Kala Sarpa Yoga.

 

When Ketu does the same instead, then there is; Kala Amrita Yoga.

 

The effects are similar, in that the person is always strung between the

extremes of Materialism (Rahu) and Spirituality (Ketu), until the yoga breaks

in the 43rd or 45th year respectively.

 

However the result of the two Yogas is different. In Case of KSY, Rahu wins the

battle, and the person is more inclined towards materialistic ideals, at worst

criminal activitiy.

 

In case of KAY, Ketu wins and makes the person spiritual, at best a Saint.

 

So in case of KSY the king is Rahu, and in case of Ketu the king is Ketu.

 

Look at their positions respectively to see the focus of the Yoga.

 

 

Now for breaking the Yoga;

If Benefics are in Lagna, 7th or join either of the Nodes, the Yoga is broken in

the Natural Year of the benefic.

 

Natural Benefics offcourse.

 

Moon, Jup & Venus produce: MahaSankhya Yoga, MahaPadma Yoga & Malavya Yoga,

respectively. You can also advise a person to associate with the person

breaking the Yoga, to break the yoga prematurely.

 

Malefics can also break the yoga, but the results are barely noticeable, as

nothing auspicious will come of it.

 

Hope this helps.

Best wishes, Visti.

 

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Wendy Vasicek

gjlist

Wednesday, January 23, 2002 2:30 PM

Re: [GJ] Sani the great Yogi/ Kal Sarp Yog

Dear Praveen,

Certainly some say that KSY is formed when all the planets are sandwiched

between Rahu and Ketu and not vice versa. However I was taught that either Node

leading will give results of KSY.

I'm not familiar with the rule that states "no planet should be conjuncting" for it's formation.

I can understand this theory if either conjoining planet were outside the

sandwich, but otherwise I cannot see the logic :-)

 

Perhaps someone can clarify this some more?

 

Best Wishes,Wendy

 

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~Dear Wendy & all members,Thanks for analysing my

chart and your valuable comments.You are right that I've inclination for

prayer, yoga and meditation.Regarding 'Kal Sarp Yog' I know that 'there is no

planet conjuncting with Rahu or Ketu' for its formation. In my horoscope both

the planets ie. Rahu and Ketu are conjucting with Saturn (Lagan Lord) and Moon

respectively. Pls guide me is it the case of 'Kal Sarp Yog'???With best

regardsPraveen