Guru Chandala Yoga

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Namaste!

I have Guru-Ketu in the 2nd house. One Astrologer says it is not Guru-

Chandala Yoga as that is for Rahu alone. Another says it is. James Braha's

new book "The Art and Practice of Ancient Hindu Astrology" says that

Jupiter would be destroyed by Ketu. He feels that Ketu is a much more

dangerous upagraha than Rahu. Yet it also gives strong Occult and

Metaphysical tendencies. I have Libra (Tula) Lagna so Guru rules 3 and 6.

My courage is harmed by Ketu on 3rd Ruler but this encourages prayer. On

the other hand I have abilities with Qi / Prana healing which is related to the

6th house amongst others. I have intense visionary and other experiences

with Gurus and Sheikhs etc. Yet I also get some confusion from them. I do

feel I am a bit of a rebel with Spirituality and stay clear of Orthodoxy if I

can. I

am not as Komilla Sutton once said about that combo a "fundamentalist

fanatic" though I can see where being just a cog in a machine is an easy

way out. During my Guru Dasha I was in Combat in the US Army in Vietnam

where my sanity was saved by looking at temples and the scenery. During

that period I also made many travels with the Military later I was initiated

into

many Eastern Traditions from Tantra to Sufism. As my Guru-Ketu is in the

2nd I earned money when Guru-Ketu Vimshottari Dasha was in effect but my

Stepfather died of cancer that year. So it has given me mixed results.

Om Sri Ganapati Ki Jai!

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I have a query regarding my best friend. She is 43 years, Leo lagna,

Taurus rashi. 1) She has retrograde Jup with Rahu in the 3H. What is the

effect of Guru Chandala Yoga? Shehas been struggling with her thesis for

the 20 years. has not done much with her life.

2) Lagna lord Sun and combust Mercury are in the 7H. While 7th lord

Saturn is with Mars in the 5th. She is unmarried and has been single and

unattached throughout her life. Any developments possible on this front

at a cursory glance?

 

Any directions?

 

Sarbani

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Hi Sarbani,

 

Could we have the full horoscope details of your friend please?

 

Thanks

Katti Narahari

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Sarbani Sarkar

vedic astrology

Wednesday, January 16, 2002 10:02 AM

[vedic astrology] Guru Chandala Yoga

I have a query regarding my best friend. She is 43 years, Leo lagna,Taurus

rashi. 1) She has retrograde Jup with Rahu in the 3H. What is theeffect of Guru

Chandala Yoga? Shehas been struggling with her thesis forthe 20 years. has not

done much with her life.2) Lagna lord Sun and combust Mercury are in the 7H.

While 7th lordSaturn is with Mars in the 5th. She is unmarried and has been

single andunattached throughout her life. Any developments possible on this

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Details as requested by Narahari:

 

DOB: 26th Feb., 1958, 6:47 p.m., New Delhi.

Lagna- leo, Rashi-taurus, Rohini nakshatr. Libra-Jup ®, Rahu,

Saggitarius-Saturn, Mars, Capricorn-Venus, Aquarius- Sun, Maercury

(combust), Aries-Ketu, Taurus-Moon.

Running Jupiter-Venus dasha.

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Hi Sarbani, I have only had one observation of this yoga playing out in another,

and I am no astrologer, but seeing that once, is more than enough pain to have

spread in the air. The treatment the person had recieved for having a different

belief was terrible, and along with everyone else, I didn't say a word when this

person was ridiculed and am not happy with myself because of the action I took

that day. Therefore, I'll share a less than common perspective of this yoga.

But first, this is very general and is not specific regarding your best friend.

And, in case you are unaware of it's definition, it is said that the person with

this yoga will go against and question religious authority, will not take kindly

to the advice of gurus, and that the conjunction is a curse of a brahmin from a

past birth. Well, I'm projecting I'm alone on this, but I cannot for the life

of me understand why anyone, let alone a priest, could curse someone, so I truly

believe that this yoga is all for the better, that this is no curse, but a

blessing in disguise. Besides...one astrologer whom I have the greatest respect

for, says that natives with this yoga have the opportunity to see beyond the

illusion of time. I mean, wow...seeing beyond the illusion of time...what a

rare gift that is Good luck to you and your best friend, Angie

 

 

vedic astrology, Sarbani Sarkar <sarbani@v...> wrote:

> I have a query regarding my best friend. She is 43 years, Leo lagna,

> Taurus rashi. 1) She has retrograde Jup with Rahu in the 3H. What is the

> effect of Guru Chandala Yoga? Shehas been struggling with her thesis for

> the 20 years. has not done much with her life.

> 2) Lagna lord Sun and combust Mercury are in the 7H. While 7th lord

> Saturn is with Mars in the 5th. She is unmarried and has been single and

> unattached throughout her life. Any developments possible on this front

> at a cursory glance?

>

> Any directions?

>

> Sarbani

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Dear Angie,

 

>From what little I have read od astrological texts, GCY makes a person

have warped and peculiar values. Rahu distorts, mars Jupiters' expansive

spirit. This is very true of the person in question. A certain meanness,

and petty mentality evolves. The person does question religious

authority, but then she questions all authority and is not particularly

bend towards a spirituality. Hope others might enlighten.

 

Sarbani

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Sarbani-ji,

 

> -

> Sarbani Sarkar

> Wednesday, January 16, 2002 10:02 AM

 

> I have a query regarding my best friend. She is 43

> years, Leo lagna,

> Taurus rashi. 1) She has retrograde Jup with Rahu

> in the 3H. What is the

> effect of Guru Chandala Yoga? Shehas been

> struggling with her thesis for

> the 20 years. has not done much with her life.

 

DISCLAIMER: I don't know jyotish well. While everybody

claim that they are still learning, in my case, I have

just started. That should tell you how seriously you

should take whatever is written.

 

I think she should meet with some professional success

in beginning of 2004. Till then, it is going to be

disappointing and struggle-some. She shall, however,

see the silver lining after that.

 

Btw, here GCYoga seems to have accentuated by (i) Moon

being in Taurus, strong mind and (ii) Rahu in 3rd,

which makes one foolishly bold.

 

> 2) Lagna lord Sun and combust Mercury are in the

> 7H. While 7th lord

> Saturn is with Mars in the 5th. She is unmarried

> and has been single and

> unattached throughout her life. Any developments

> possible on this front

> at a cursory glance?

 

How true is "unattached throughout her life"? It

doesn't look like it. There are quite some indications

for a broken love affair.

Also, she seems to be contemplating marriage right

now. Her marriage should fructify side-by-side with

her PhD.

 

Before I end, DISCLAIMER: I don't know jyotish well...

 

krishnarpanam,

Nomadeva

 

 

 

 

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dear nomadeva sir

 

disclaimer: i dont know jyotish.

 

 

i predict a great future for u and u will be well known throughout

the world.

 

 

disclaimer: i am a novice and dont know jyotish at all.

 

regards

partha

 

 

 

vedic astrology, Nomadeva Sharma <nomadeva> wrote:

 

> DISCLAIMER: I don't know jyotish well. While everybody

> claim that they are still learning, in my case, I have

> just started. That should tell you how seriously you

> should take whatever is written.

>

> I think she should meet with some professional success

> in beginning of 2004. Till then, it is going to be

> disappointing and struggle-some. She shall, however,

> see the silver lining after that.

>

> Btw, here GCYoga seems to have accentuated by (i) Moon

> being in Taurus, strong mind and (ii) Rahu in 3rd,

> which makes one foolishly bold.

>

> > 2) Lagna lord Sun and combust Mercury are in the

> > 7H. While 7th lord

> > Saturn is with Mars in the 5th. She is unmarried

> > and has been single and

> > unattached throughout her life. Any developments

> > possible on this front

> > at a cursory glance?

>

> How true is "unattached throughout her life"? It

> doesn't look like it. There are quite some indications

> for a broken love affair.

> Also, she seems to be contemplating marriage right

> now. Her marriage should fructify side-by-side with

> her PhD.

>

> Before I end, DISCLAIMER: I don't know jyotish well...

>

> krishnarpanam,

> Nomadeva

>

>

>

>

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Nomadeva:

 

I think what appears and worries those around her is a sense of

purposeless, diffused, zombied existence. This together with a meaness,

a viciousness by which she cuts off those around her. Jealousy. Talented

but does not put her talent to use. Taurus moon. Aah. So am I. But we

are such different Taurus moons. She is not strong minded. Instead

creates a miasma in her mind, a pool of dark thoughts and self-pity

where she sucks in everybody into the vortex of her mind. Most stay away

after a while. I have stuck around and know how to side step the pit

falls. Her taurus moon has been used negatively. The imaginative power

bestowed by an exalted moon can used either negatively or positively

(don't I know!). I have not seen any positive use of her mind. Although

she is a very intelligent mind, which can be quite poetic and artistic

in the rear occasions she chooses to exercise it. Jup ® and rahu have

a 8H aspect on her moon in 10H. Jup ® is also 8th lord. Any

connections there? Also, though she falls in love frequently, she has

remained unattached. There have been friendships, that is all.

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OM SRI GURAVE NAMAH

 

Pranams to Guru;s and learned members,

 

I being a student of SJVC am attempting to answer the query about marriage for

this chart. I would be obliged if learned guru's and memebrs comment on where

my short comings are.

 

Lord of lagna (paka lagna) in the 7th plus the lord of 7th in the 5th with

yogakaraka does not seem to deny marriage. But what i am trying to learn from

Gurudev Sanjay's teachings, due importance has to be given to the UL equally.

 

UL falls in pisces with no planet in it. lord of the UL jupiter(retro) falls in

the 8th from UL afflicted with Rahu. Lord of UL also falls in the 8th from the

AL.

The 2nd from UL being occupied with ketu, i think is a good sign giving the

person a spiritual inclination.

 

Narayana Dasa of Ge-Ar would start shortly from 2002-Feb-26th. Aries being the

2nd from UL and the 9th from lagna (dharma). Of what little knowledge i

currently have i think the Ar antar dasa should bring about the event. The 7th

lord occupies the navamsa of Aries. Thus Ar antar dasa would seem to qualify for

marriage. Jupiter transiting over cancer, the 7th from natal moon would help

too.

 

12th from Karakamsa is lorded by mercury. No planet in the 12th from Karakamsa.

But Venus, Jupiter® and mercury aspect (rasi drishti) this place. Going by

the stronger of these 3 by means of highest longitude gained, then mercury

get;s to be the istha. Worship of Narayana would help all the way.

 

Please consider this attempt as the one from a student.

 

Awaiting for brickbats.

 

Sincerly

 

Katti Narahari

 

 

 

 

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Sarbani Sarkar

vedic astrology

Wednesday, January 16, 2002 4:06 PM

Re: [vedic astrology] Guru Chandala Yoga

Details as requested by Narahari:DOB: 26th Feb., 1958, 6:47 p.m., New

Delhi.Lagna- leo, Rashi-taurus, Rohini nakshatr. Libra-Jup ®,

Rahu,Saggitarius-Saturn, Mars, Capricorn-Venus, Aquarius- Sun,

Maercury(combust), Aries-Ketu, Taurus-Moon.Running Jupiter-Venus

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Vyam Vysadevaya Namah

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Dear Narahari,

You missed some vital points in the analysis.

You must also explain, why with her advanced age, she hasn't married yet?

 

+ Preliminary Analysis +

You were right to focus on Lagna and Paka Lagna. Paka Lagna in 7th shows a

person who is likely to abide by other peoples advice, and will follow their

spouses advice.

 

Mercury and Sun in 7th don't necessarily cause problems in marriage, rather

causes good qualities in the spouse.

Note that Mercury in becomes Marana Karaka, showing problems with associations. Keep a Note of this.

 

Darapada is in 2nd from Arudha Lagna, this doesn't show a healthy relation to

sexual intercourse, but isn't the most important thing in a marriage.

 

Upapada is in 11th from Arudha Lagna, showing that she has a healthy perception

of marriage, which can only grow stronger, and more fruitful.

 

Darapada and Upapada aspect each other, showing that she may marry someone, who

she has known before marriage.

 

Darapada is aspected by Saturn and Mars, devoid of beneficial aspect, whilst its

lord has become Marana Karaka. Now you know why i wanted you to note the

previous observation. - This surely causes great problems with the people she

associates with. Maybe she associates with criminals(saturn & Mars) or the

likes.

 

Also that Venus also becomes Marana Karaka, whilst under Papakartari Yoga by

Sun, Saturn and Mars. This is a sureshot combination for problems with the

opposite sex.

 

See Saturn in 5th giving Argala on 7th house. Many short-term associations,

maybe for the object of having sex, rather than establishing a relationship.

Mars maybe Yoga Karaka, but will not help her marry, as its still a malefic.

 

See all the problems? Now lets look at marriage.

 

+ Marriage +

Upapada is aspected by Saturn and Mars, devoid of beneficial aspect. When this

happens, Parasara has stated that either the person renounces marriage, or has

trouble marrying. On top of that Upapada is in 8th house, showing karmic debts

leading to problems in marriage.

 

For your personal Note Katti; See that 7th lord from Upapada is placed in 12th

from Upapada. Remember what i have told you about 2nd from this specific lord?

 

The spouse is seen from the Lord of Upapada, which is Jupiter, joined with Rahu

in Libra, this shows a spouse of Atheistic background. Jupiter retrogade in a

Venusian sign, joined with Rahu, is weaker than Rahu.

 

When in GCY - Rahu is stronger than Jup, the person doesn't seek god in anyway,

rather is thoroughly atheistic. Whilst with Jup stronger than Rahu, the person

may seek god, through other means than tradition.

 

2nd From Upapada, shows whether the marriage can last. If we are to suggest any

methods for a marriage, we should also make sure it can last.

Aries is the 2nd from Upapada, and has Ketu, aspected by Sun and Mercury. This

may show some skin related problems to the spouse, but Sun protects the

marriage. Lord; Mars is in 5th joined with Saturn, which is very inaupicious

for marital stability(causes seperations, etc), and hence some remedial

messures are surely needed.

 

Vivaha Tithi is; Krisha Shashti, which indicates a need for remedial messures.

 

+ Remedial Messures +

 

Marriage is going to be very hard for this person, let alone settling in a

stable relationship. There are many obstructions. The exact reason should be

seen from Shastyamsa, which may need rectification.

 

1) First we need to bring the spouse. The 7th lord from Venus is Moon exalted in

Taurus, 10th house, showing that the worship of Krishna, with a Dasakshari

Mantra, will bring the spouse.

 

Mantra: "Om Hlim Sleem Kleem SriKrishnaya Namah", begining on a Thursday, on

which she should also fast(due to her constitution(jup+venus), you can advise

fasting on fruits, and uncooked vegetables, but she must try to observe the

fast at her best ability).

 

Moon is joined Upapada, and MrityuPada. The recitation of this Mantra, will also

give her great professional achievements.

 

2) The Fasting will help remove the negative indications of the Upapada, which

should be the focal point of the remedial messures.

 

She should begin the mantra, after visiting a Church of Jesus Christ or a temple

of Maha Vishnu, and then begin reciting the mantra atleast 108 times a day with

a rosary. Bathing in Puri is very auspicious to start this.

 

3) Note that her Istha Devata(deity that give moksha) is also Vishnu/Krishna.

4) Note that her Palana Devata(deity that ensures professional stability) is also Vishnu/Krishna.

 

I will be a very disapointed man, if she doesn't worship Krishna!!!

 

+ Aftermath +

She is running the Rasi Narayana Dasa of Gemini, which is aspected by Upapada,

Darapada & Rayja Pada, showing a potential for career lift(Rayja Pada),

increased association with opposite sex(Darapada) and Marriage(Upapada).

 

Gemini Dasa runs from Feb 1998 - Feb 2006.

 

So with the help of some worshipping, and being at the right place at the right

time, we should start seeing some progress in her life.

 

Make sure she gets this information, it can be important to get her life back on course.

 

Hope this helps.

Best wishes, Visti.

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Hare Rama Krsna.

 

 

Dear Sarbani,

 

My wife has a guru-chandala yoga in the 4th house, and she is a person

very devoted to Krishna, worshipping every day and chanting japa. Why Rahu

in this case does not make her against religion with a warped mind?

 

In this case we see that the guru-chandala yoga takes place in the sign of

Sagittarius, so Jupiter is in his own house and Rahu is somewhat in his

debilitated position, since he is opposite his sign of mooltrikona. Thus

Jupiter is powerful and Rahu weak, plus Rahu will take on the nature of

Jupiter. BTW, she's in her Rahu maha-dasha, which in particular made her

come to devotional life.

 

>From what little I have read od astrological texts, GCY makes a person

>have warped and peculiar values. Rahu distorts, mars Jupiters' expansive

>spirit. This is very true of the person in question. A certain meanness,

>and petty mentality evolves. The person does question religious

>authority, but then she questions all authority and is not particularly

>bend towards a spirituality. Hope others might enlighten.

 

Your sishya,

Dhira Krsna dasa

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Sarbani,

 

Sorry for joining in uninvited.

 

This very interesting mail also perfectly describes the native whose chart I

have attached. All the signs are ther but her chart does not have any such

indications ( at least to my un-

trained sight).

 

Would you, and others on the list, take a look at the chart and help me

understand the chart better.

 

Best wishes,

 

Shailesh Chandra Chadhascchadha (AT) hotmail (DOT) com

 

 

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Sarbani Sarkar

vedic astrology

Thursday, January 17, 2002 1:48 PM

Re: [vedic astrology] Guru Chandala Yoga

Nomadeva:I think what appears and worries those around her is a sense

ofpurposeless, diffused, zombied existence. This together with a meaness,a

viciousness by which she cuts off those around her. Jealousy. Talentedbut does

not put her talent to use. Taurus moon. Aah. So am I. But weare such different

Taurus moons. She is not strong minded. Insteadcreates a miasma in her mind, a

pool of dark thoughts and self-pitywhere she sucks in everybody into the vortex

of her mind. Most stay awayafter a while. I have stuck around and know how to

side step the pitfalls. Her taurus moon has been used negatively. The

imaginative powerbestowed by an exalted moon can used either negatively or

positively(don't I know!). I have not seen any positive use of her mind.

Althoughshe is a very intelligent mind, which can be quite poetic and

artisticin the rear occasions she chooses to exercise it. Jup ® and rahu

havea 8H aspect on her moon in 10H. Jup ® is also 8th lord. Anyconnections

there? Also, though she falls in love frequently, she hasremained unattached.

There have been friendships, that is all.Archives:

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