Guest guest Posted January 11, 2002 Report Share Posted January 11, 2002 A question that seems to perennially baffle the students of astrology: Is a functional benefic(sun for example) that is weak in the natal chart due to extreme infancy, but is otherwise well posited in both rashi as well as navamsa, and also vargottama, capable of expressing itself both in terms of its effects on those it signifies as well as on the native. I read conflicting views in the literature on whether a vargottama planet that is in its infancy in the rashi, can give its expected results during its dasa. There are some who say that vargottama planet acquires additional strenth that overrides its infancy, where as some like James Braha take a dim view of vargottama theory. I would be grateful if gurus could throw some light on this. Regards and best wishes, AjitJoin the world’s largest e-mail service with MSN Hotmail. Click Here Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 12, 2002 Report Share Posted January 12, 2002 Vyam Vysadevaya Namah! ---------------- Dear Ajit, When Sun Occupied the first Navamsa of fiery Rasi's, then its in Vargottama, however its also in Gandanta. Those who survive such births can become very great personalities. Same thing applies for the last Navamsa of Water Rasi's. Its not baffling, its in one of the first chapters of BPHS. Best wishes, Visti. - Ajit Mittal vedic astrology Saturday, January 12, 2002 6:36 AM [vedic astrology] A planet's weakness due to infancy Hi all: A question that seems to perennially baffle the students of astrology: Is a functional benefic(sun for example) that is weak in the natal chart due to extreme infancy, but is otherwise well posited in both rashi as well as navamsa, and also vargottama, capable of expressing itself both in terms of its effects on those it signifies as well as on the native. I read conflicting views in the literature on whether a vargottama planet that is in its infancy in the rashi, can give its expected results during its dasa. There are some who say that vargottama planet acquires additional strenth that overrides its infancy, where as some like James Braha take a dim view of vargottama theory. I would be grateful if gurus could throw some light on this. Regards and best wishes, Ajit Join the world’s largest e-mail service with MSN Hotmail. Click HereArchives: vedic astrologyGroup info: vedic astrology/info.htmlTo UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology-....... May Jupiter's light shine on us ....... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 13, 2002 Report Share Posted January 13, 2002 Dear Visti: Thanks so very much for your kindness in clarifying the issue. One more small bother: If sun is in cancer at 0 degree in rashi chart, and also in cancer in navamsa, shall it be deemed to be in the last navamsa of a watery sign or the first navamsa of this sign. You may be exasperated by this query, but pl. bear with me. I hope you would be kind (as usual) to explain this one. Thanks and best wishes, Ajit>"Visti Larsen" >vedic astrology > >Re: [vedic astrology] A planet's weakness due to infancy >Sat, 12 Jan 2002 11:46:00 +0100 > >Vyam Vysadevaya Namah! >---------------- >Dear Ajit, > >When Sun Occupied the first Navamsa of fiery Rasi's, then its in Vargottama, >however its also in Gandanta. >Those who survive such births can become very great personalities. > >Same thing applies for the last Navamsa of Water Rasi's. > >Its not baffling, its in one of the first chapters of BPHS. > >Best wishes, Visti. > > - > Ajit Mittal > To: vedic astrology > Saturday, January 12, 2002 6:36 AM > [vedic astrology] A planet's weakness due to infancy > > > Hi all: > A question that seems to perennially baffle the students of astrology: Is >a functional benefic(sun for example) that is weak in the natal chart due to >extreme infancy, but is otherwise well posited in both rashi as well as >navamsa, and also vargottama, capable of expressing itself both in terms of >its effects on those it signifies as well as on the native. I read >conflicting views in the literature on whether a vargottama planet that is >in its infancy in the rashi, can give its expected results during its dasa. >There are some who say that vargottama planet acquires additional strenth >that overrides its infancy, where as some like James Braha take a dim view >of vargottama theory. > I would be grateful if gurus could throw some light on this. > > Regards and best wishes, > Ajit > > >---------- >-- > Join the world’s largest e-mail service with MSN Hotmail. Click Here > > Sponsor > > > > > > Archives: vedic astrology > > Group info: vedic astrology/info.html > > To UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology- > > ....... May Jupiter's light shine on us ....... > > || Om Tat Sat || Sarvam Sri Krishnaarpanamastu || > > > Chat with friends online, try MSN Messenger: Click Here Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 14, 2002 Report Share Posted January 14, 2002 Vyam Vysadevaya Namah! ---- Dear Ajit, Last Navamsa of a watery sign, is the last 3:20 degrees of it. Gandanta positions are also described as; The 1st Pada of Aswini, Magha & Moola + The 4th Pada of Revati, Jyestha & Asleesha. Get "Vedic Remedies in Astrology", it also has alot on other volatile positions, as well as a a throrough list on curses and use of Badhakesh. Best wishes, Visti. - Ajit Mittal vedic astrology Monday, January 14, 2002 8:09 AM Re: [vedic astrology] A planet's weakness due to infancy Dear Visti: Thanks so very much for your kindness in clarifying the issue. One more small bother: If sun is in cancer at 0 degree in rashi chart, and also in cancer in navamsa, shall it be deemed to be in the last navamsa of a watery sign or the first navamsa of this sign. You may be exasperated by this query, but pl. bear with me. I hope you would be kind (as usual) to explain this one. Thanks and best wishes, Ajit>"Visti Larsen" >vedic astrology > >Re: [vedic astrology] A planet's weakness due to infancy >Sat, 12 Jan 2002 11:46:00 +0100 > >Vyam Vysadevaya Namah! >---------------- >Dear Ajit, > >When Sun Occupied the first Navamsa of fiery Rasi's, then its in Vargottama, >however its also in Gandanta. >Those who survive such births can become very great personalities. > >Same thing applies for the last Navamsa of Water Rasi's. > >Its not baffling, its in one of the first chapters of BPHS. > >Best wishes, Visti. > > - > Ajit Mittal > To: vedic astrology > Saturday, January 12, 2002 6:36 AM > [vedic astrology] A planet's weakness due to infancy > > > Hi all: > A question that seems to perennially baffle the students of astrology: Is >a functional benefic(sun for example) that is weak in the natal chart due to >extreme infancy, but is otherwise well posited in both rashi as well as >navamsa, and also vargottama, capable of expressing itself both in terms of >its effects on those it signifies as well as on the native. I read >conflicting views in the literature on whether a vargottama planet that is >in its infancy in the rashi, can give its expected results during its dasa. >There are some who say that vargottama planet acquires additional strenth >that overrides its infancy, where as some like James Braha take a dim view >of vargottama theory. > I would be grateful if gurus could throw some light on this. > > Regards and best wishes, > Ajit > > >---------- >-- > Join the world’s largest e-mail service with MSN Hotmail. Click Here > > Sponsor > > > > > > Archives: vedic astrology > > Group info: vedic astrology/info.html > > To UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology- > > ....... May Jupiter's light shine on us ....... > > || Om Tat Sat || Sarvam Sri Krishnaarpanamastu || > > > Chat with friends online, try MSN Messenger: Click HereArchives: vedic astrologyGroup info: vedic astrology/info.htmlTo UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology-....... May Jupiter's light shine on us ....... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 14, 2002 Report Share Posted January 14, 2002 Dear Visti: Thanks once again. But should I infer that planets that are in the same sign in navamsa and rashi, but are not in the first (in case of fiery signs) or the last (in case of watery sign) navamsa, are not to be considered as vargottama?? Once for the last time, could you please confirm! Many thanks and best wishes, Ajit >"Visti Larsen" <in_joy_i_scream >vedic astrology ><vedic astrology> >Re: [vedic astrology] A planet's weakness due to infancy >Mon, 14 Jan 2002 11:08:25 +0100 > >Vyam Vysadevaya Namah! >---- >Dear Ajit, >Last Navamsa of a watery sign, is the last 3:20 degrees of it. > >Gandanta positions are also described as; >The 1st Pada of Aswini, Magha & Moola >+ >The 4th Pada of Revati, Jyestha & Asleesha. > >Get "Vedic Remedies in Astrology", it also has alot on other volatile >positions, as well as a a throrough list on curses and use of Badhakesh. > >Best wishes, Visti. > > - > Ajit Mittal > vedic astrology > Monday, January 14, 2002 8:09 AM > Re: [vedic astrology] A planet's weakness due to infancy > > > Dear Visti: > > Thanks so very much for your kindness in clarifying the issue. > > One more small bother: If sun is in cancer at 0 degree in rashi chart, >and >also in cancer in navamsa, shall it be deemed to be in the last navamsa of >a >watery sign or the first navamsa of this sign. > > You may be exasperated by this query, but pl. bear with me. I hope you >would be kind (as usual) to explain this one. > > Thanks and best wishes, > > Ajit > > > > >"Visti Larsen" > >vedic astrology > >To: > >Re: [vedic astrology] A planet's weakness due to infancy > >Sat, 12 Jan 2002 11:46:00 +0100 > > > >Vyam Vysadevaya Namah! > >---------------- > >Dear Ajit, > > > >When Sun Occupied the first Navamsa of fiery Rasi's, then its in >Vargottama, > >however its also in Gandanta. > >Those who survive such births can become very great personalities. > > > >Same thing applies for the last Navamsa of Water Rasi's. > > > >Its not baffling, its in one of the first chapters of BPHS. > > > >Best wishes, Visti. > > > > - > > Ajit Mittal > > vedic astrology > > Saturday, January 12, 2002 6:36 AM > > [vedic astrology] A planet's weakness due to infancy > > > > > > Hi all: > > A question that seems to perennially baffle the students of astrology: >Is > >a functional benefic(sun for example) that is weak in the natal chart >due >to > >extreme infancy, but is otherwise well posited in both rashi as well as > >navamsa, and also vargottama, capable of expressing itself both in >terms >of > >its effects on those it signifies as well as on the native. I read > >conflicting views in the literature on whether a vargottama planet that >is > >in its infancy in the rashi, can give its expected results during its >dasa. > >There are some who say that vargottama planet acquires additional >strenth > >that overrides its infancy, where as some like James Braha take a dim >view > >of vargottama theory. > > I would be grateful if gurus could throw some light on this. > > > > Regards and best wishes, > > Ajit > > > > > > >--------- >- > >-- > > Join the world’s largest e-mail service with MSN Hotmail. Click Here > > > > Sponsor > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ....... May Jupiter's light shine on us ....... > > > > || Om Tat Sat || Sarvam Sri Krishnaarpanamastu || > > > > > > > > >---------- >-- > Chat with friends online, try MSN Messenger: Click Here > > Sponsor > > > > > > > > > > > > ....... May Jupiter's light shine on us ....... > > > > > _______________ Join the world’s largest e-mail service with MSN Hotmail. http://www.hotmail.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 15, 2002 Report Share Posted January 15, 2002 Vyam Vysadevaya Namah! ---- Dear Ajit, No! Gandanta and Vargottama are two different things. Best wishes, Visti. - "Ajit Mittal" <ajitmittal <vedic astrology> Tuesday, January 15, 2002 7:03 AM Re: [vedic astrology] A planet's weakness due to infancy > > Dear Visti: > Thanks once again. But should I infer that planets that are in the same sign > in navamsa and rashi, but are not in the first (in case of fiery signs) or > the last (in case of watery sign) navamsa, are not to be considered as > vargottama?? > Once for the last time, could you please confirm! > > Many thanks and best wishes, > > Ajit > > > >"Visti Larsen" <in_joy_i_scream > >vedic astrology > ><vedic astrology> > >Re: [vedic astrology] A planet's weakness due to infancy > >Mon, 14 Jan 2002 11:08:25 +0100 > > > >Vyam Vysadevaya Namah! > >---- > >Dear Ajit, > >Last Navamsa of a watery sign, is the last 3:20 degrees of it. > > > >Gandanta positions are also described as; > >The 1st Pada of Aswini, Magha & Moola > >+ > >The 4th Pada of Revati, Jyestha & Asleesha. > > > >Get "Vedic Remedies in Astrology", it also has alot on other volatile > >positions, as well as a a throrough list on curses and use of Badhakesh. > > > >Best wishes, Visti. > > > > - > > Ajit Mittal > > vedic astrology > > Monday, January 14, 2002 8:09 AM > > Re: [vedic astrology] A planet's weakness due to infancy > > > > > > Dear Visti: > > > > Thanks so very much for your kindness in clarifying the issue. > > > > One more small bother: If sun is in cancer at 0 degree in rashi chart, > >and > >also in cancer in navamsa, shall it be deemed to be in the last navamsa of > >a > >watery sign or the first navamsa of this sign. > > > > You may be exasperated by this query, but pl. bear with me. I hope you > >would be kind (as usual) to explain this one. > > > > Thanks and best wishes, > > > > Ajit > > > > > > > > >"Visti Larsen" > > >vedic astrology > > >To: > > >Re: [vedic astrology] A planet's weakness due to infancy > > >Sat, 12 Jan 2002 11:46:00 +0100 > > > > > >Vyam Vysadevaya Namah! > > >---------------- > > >Dear Ajit, > > > > > >When Sun Occupied the first Navamsa of fiery Rasi's, then its in > >Vargottama, > > >however its also in Gandanta. > > >Those who survive such births can become very great personalities. > > > > > >Same thing applies for the last Navamsa of Water Rasi's. > > > > > >Its not baffling, its in one of the first chapters of BPHS. > > > > > >Best wishes, Visti. > > > > > > - > > > Ajit Mittal > > > vedic astrology > > > Saturday, January 12, 2002 6:36 AM > > > [vedic astrology] A planet's weakness due to infancy > > > > > > > > > Hi all: > > > A question that seems to perennially baffle the students of astrology: > >Is > > >a functional benefic(sun for example) that is weak in the natal chart > >due > >to > > >extreme infancy, but is otherwise well posited in both rashi as well as > > >navamsa, and also vargottama, capable of expressing itself both in > >terms > >of > > >its effects on those it signifies as well as on the native. I read > > >conflicting views in the literature on whether a vargottama planet that > >is > > >in its infancy in the rashi, can give its expected results during its > >dasa. > > >There are some who say that vargottama planet acquires additional > >strenth > > >that overrides its infancy, where as some like James Braha take a dim > >view > > >of vargottama theory. > > > I would be grateful if gurus could throw some light on this. > > > > > > Regards and best wishes, > > > Ajit > > > > > > > > > > >--------- > >- > > >-- > > > Join the world’s largest e-mail service with MSN Hotmail. Click Here > > > > > > Sponsor > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ....... May Jupiter's light shine on us ....... > > > > > > || Om Tat Sat || Sarvam Sri Krishnaarpanamastu || > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >---------- > >-- > > Chat with friends online, try MSN Messenger: Click Here > > > > Sponsor > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ....... May Jupiter's light shine on us ....... > > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________ > Join the world’s largest e-mail service with MSN Hotmail. > http://www.hotmail.com > > > > > > > > > > ....... May Jupiter's light shine on us ....... > > > > Your use of is subject to > _______ Get your free @ address at Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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