is our existence dream-dear nomadeva sir and friends

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dear nomadeva sir

 

i thought your name is nomadeva , but u are krishna!!!!.

 

thoughts are matter waves and they are emanating from our brain as we

think about some events?, some people??, some real and some unreal??>>

 

reality and unreality are seriously the concepts that can never be

defined. can u say why there can be an earthquake in a place where

geologically there is no chance of an earthquake. there is no history

of earthquake in that particular area, but all of a sudden the earth

starts trembling on a fateful day. why??.

 

i hope i am not agnostic, but do i know where is my destination,

after this life??!!

 

if i know can i say that i am living a wasteful life conjuring up

silly images in this world, doing silly thing by posting these

questions to "others" when all i need to do is to meditate and think

about it myself??. there are so many issus, too many questions and

never ending stream of thougts. but can i get answers. i am in the

middle of pacific?? or atlantic?? what i am i doing here ??

 

see sir if i ask questions then there may not be satisfactory

answers , but yes my understanding will go up.

 

i ask questions not to show " my" superiority over others, but to

know more!!!!.

 

please elaborate on the following that u had said

 

 

>>Talking of this world, the BS say, na svapnAdivat.h

> (this world is unlike a dream. why?) vaidharmyAchcha;

> ((((((((((on the account of it being of different character.))))))

>

 

 

yours lovingly partha

 

 

 

 

 

 

vedic astrology, Nomadeva Sharma <nomadeva> wrote:

>

> --- partvinu5 <partvinu5> wrote:

> > dear nomadeva sir

> >

> > yes we are trying to learn a lot. and i am only a

> > small student. if

> > my question has appeared epistomological then please

> > pardon me. my

>

> Dear Partha-ji,

>

> I mentioned 'epistemological' only to tell that this

> question is a part of another study subject. Why are

> you seeking 'pardon'?

>

> > intention is to know the truth. yes vedanta speaks

> > about it. but let

> > me reiterate the answers i am getting are not

> > satisfactory. i wish

> > you could spare some of your valuable time to answer

> > my question:" is

> > my existence dream of another person in antother

> > universe".

>

> No.

>

> > OTOH, there is a chapter devoted to dreams in prasna

> > marga voulme ii.

> > i have read that book which was translated by sri.

> > BV RAMAN and it is

> > quite interesting.

>

> The mANDukya Upanishad, Brahmasutras have something to

> say about this:

> Mandukya mentions different theories of creation, one

> of which being that this world is 'svapnamAyA' and

> rejects it.

> Talking of this world, the BS say, na svapnAdivat.h

> (this world is unlike a dream. why?) vaidharmyAchcha;

> on the account of it being of different character.

>

> Why I said it is a matter of epistemology is this: how

> do you know the above fundas is not a matter discussed

> in a dream of somebody else?

>

> Btw, why do you think dreams are unreal?

>

> Regards,

> Krishna

>

> > regrds

> > partha

> >

>

>

>

>

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Namaste Partha, sorry for butting in.

>thoughts are matter waves and they are emanating from our brain as we

> think about some events?, some people??, some real and some unreal??.

According to the veda,thoughts are not really emanating from the brain.

Rather they emanate from the atma and use the brain to interact with the

body. The brain is the interface between the atma and the body. So thoughts

are not matter waves. They cause matter waves. The soul does not need the

brain for being able to think as it can also think when unembodied.

However, it uses the brain as long as it is embodied.

>reality and unreality are seriously the concepts that can never bedefined.

If that would be true, then the Vedas and upanishads have been revealed in

vain, for that is their very purpose: Distinguishing between sat and

asat - reality and unreality.

> can u say why there can be an earthquake in a place where geologically

there is no chance of an earthquake. there is no history

> of earthquake in that particular area, but all of a sudden the earth

starts trembling on a fateful day. why??.

 

Certainly, because it is the destiny of the place and the people living

there. As astrologers, we believe in destiny caused by our karmas, arent we?

> i hope i am not agnostic, but do i know where is my destination, after

this life??!!

 

Depends on your actions and thoughts in this life. According to the gita,

you will go to higher realms if you die in sattva (urdhvam gacchanti sattva

stho), you will remain on earth and take birth as a human, if you live a

life of rajo guna (madhye tishtanti rajasah), and you will go down and take

birth amongst animal, plant or hellish species if you live a tamasic life.

if i know can i say that i am living a wasteful life conjuring up silly

images in this world, doing silly thing by posting these

questions to "others" when all i need to do is to meditate and think about

it myself??.

Asking questions is a symptom of intelligence. It means that the person is

searching for the truth. By thinking and meditating on your own, you can

realize some truths but for others you will definitely require the help of a

guru. There are quite a few statements spread out througout the vedas and

puranas to this effect: 'That you can only understand the truth from someone

who has seen it himself himself (upadikshyanti te jnanam jnaninas tattva

darshinah)

As a devout reader of Ramayana, you probably know all these things yourself,

but since you asked the questions I threw in my two cents

 

Regards, Arno

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--- partvinu5 <partvinu5 wrote:

> dear nomadeva sir

>

> i thought your name is nomadeva , but u are

> krishna!!!!.

 

The former is my 'naxatra' name, fit for an

astrological list.

 

> reality and unreality are seriously the concepts

> that can never be

> defined.

 

Dear Partha-ji, I think that is a bit drastic

statement to make that reality and unreality can never

be defined. At the maximum, you can say that any

definition cannot satisfy each and every soul, but

then, what does?

 

> please elaborate on the following that u had said

 

That unfortunately is not possible by me. Since these

quotes are from the Brahmasutras, I suggest that you

take up a bhAShya to study them. Believe me, the

ancient philosophers, who built systems of

philosophers have more consistency than any of our

answers to such questions can get you. (Oh, if you are

really determined to understand what these sUtras

mean, your study cannot start with them straight up.

Have you heard of a book called 'Tarka sangraha'?)

 

> >>Talking of this world, the BS say, na

> svapnAdivat.h

> > (this world is unlike a dream. why?)

> vaidharmyAchcha;

> > ((((((((((on the account of it being of different

> character.))))))

> >

 

Regards,

Nomadeva

 

 

 

 

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