Question about Retrogrades-dear friends

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Pranam Gurujis'

 

In my horoscope which is enclosed below my Lagna lord

Saturn is in Retrogade and also my Bhagyasthana lord

Mercury is also in Retrogade.

 

Does it imply that my luck and bhagya would be

fluctuating.

 

Please evaluate and help

Saikumar

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--- partvinu5 <partvinu5 wrote:

> dear friends

>

> Retrogression of planets is an interesting

> phenomena. Retrogression

> basically implies that the person is looking

> backwards. I am a living

> example of a person who has prominent retrograde

> planets.

>

> For me lagna lord i retrograde and is in the fifth

> huose. what does

> that mean. it means i think a lot abt my behaviour,

> my aptitudes,

> tend to be lost in thoughts most of the times. this

> is also the eason

> why instead of giving examples of some other person,

> i am givng mine

> (laughs).

>

> Jupiter retrograde means that guru has cursed me in

> my past life. for

> me guru is with ketu. thus me a guru-chandala would

> always try to

> oppose the current stream of things.

>

> Added to my current woes of introversion is the

> retrogression of

> saturn. Saturn is for me the 3nd and third lord. as

> 2nd lord is

> retrograde that too in the 8th house, it means that

> my talk wuold be

> misunderstood many a times. saturn aspects the 5th

> house where

> mr.jupiter is posited. thus you can clearly see a

> picnic of

> misunderstandings. saturn and jupiter retrograde may

> give me

> opportunities to rectify my errors or sins. But i

> would like to

> reiterate that i would not compromise on principles.

>

>

> regards

> partha

>

>

vedic astrology, "iyergroups"

> <iyer_astro@m...> wrote:

> > Om Namo Bhagavate Jagannathaya

> >

> > Dear Bindu,

> >

> > Firstly, the Nodes are the cause of rebirth. A

> retrograde planet

> has

> > its motion akin to the Nodes and hence they

> represent a curse from

> > our previous birth. The nature of curse and the

> circumstances can

> be

> > verified from the nature of planets and the houses

> they own in D-

> 60.

> > Ofcourse one needs to be an expert to decipher

> this chart

> accurately.

> >

> > Another effect of retrogression(as given by James

> Braha) is that

> the

> > quality of the planet which is retrograde

> manifests internally, and

> a

> > lot of effort or time is required for this to

> manifest externally.

> > The Retrograde planet is powerful on the internal

> level. On the

> outer

> > level it is never strong and active. It is neutral

> or passive.

> >

> > The externalization occurs if the person

> consciously decides to

> > activate the energy of the planet. Effects of

> Retrogression works

> on

> > the Natural(Karaka) level and Functional(House

> Rulership) level.

> >

> > Example:

> >

> > A person with Jupiter® is continually

> approaching matters from a

> > philosophical context.

> >

> > A person with Venus® is constantly analyzing and

> thinking about

> > Love, Pleasures etc.

> >

> > A native with Retrograde 5L will have the the 5H

> energy latent and

> > may take time to have kids, the delay could be

> either in the form

> of

> > not wanting to have kids or problem in conception.

>

> >

> > A native with Retrograde 7L may not feel the need

> to get married,

> and

> > even if they want to, a lot of effort is required.

>

> >

> > Retrogression of 3L and 6L can make a person

> less-ambitious etc.

> >

> > Being closer to the earth, its effects are

> powerful in the sense

> that

> > it would make you work harder for the results.

> This effort is what

> is

> > known as Chestha. Hence a retrograde planet has

> Chestha Bala.

> >

> > So quite often retrogression energy may manifest

> as hobby(internal)

> > during the first 30yrs. After 30, depending on the

> maturity of the

> > individual, when the person starts using free-will

> and activates

> the

> > energy, the energy manifests in the outside world.

> >

> > If the 10L is Retrograde, the person may be slow

> in choosing his

> > career or actualize it.

> >

> > Generally retrogression of dusthana lords are

> considered good, as

> > their malicious effects take time to actualize.

> >

> > Similarly, a debilitated planet which is also

> retrograde, takes

> time

> > to manifest their negative effects, hence they

> say, that it behaves

> > like an exalted planet, although I feel that this

> is innacurate.

> >

> > In short the it takes time for the person to

> acualize his/her

> > abilities(depending on the planet, karaka and

> rulership) in the

> > outside world.

> >

> > I feel that retrogression of planets relating to

> transits, work on

> > the same level. A lot of effort is required. Old

> options are re-

> > visited. Remember how a Retrograde planet behaves

> akin to Nodes,

> > which are the cause of our re-birth. In the same

> way, during

> transit,

> > retrogression of a planet, may indicate, a curse

> taking effect, and

> > hence caution is generally advised and no new work

> is taken up.

> >

> > On the positive side, retrogression signals a

> chance given by

> > God/Superunknown to reform, hence new

> oppurtunities are provided.

> Any

> > mistaskes made previously can be rectified and

> lessons can be

> learnt.

> > That is what everything boils down to. Karma &

> Re-birth.

> >

> > Finally, to summarize, Retrograde planets dont

> cause harm and they

> > are not afflicted, but, they do slow down things

> and make for an

> > introverted , rather than extroverted, energy.

> >

> > Hope this helps.

> >

> > Regards

> > Narayan

> >

> > vedic astrology, "nadia" <NADIAK@O...>

> wrote:

> > > Hari Om,

>

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> >dear partha,

thanks for the reading on my chart

why you think retro plant could be curse from past

lives. i am sure you know about Bhesheam pitamahe

he kept his word rather than obey the guru the guru

did not cue=rse him rather gave way to siddi the women

who cause his death in next life.

 

sincerely

rajinder

>

vedic astrology, "iyergroups"

> <iyer_astro@m...> wrote:

> > Om Namo Bhagavate Jagannathaya

> >

> > Dear Bindu,

> >

> > Firstly, the Nodes are the cause of rebirth. A

> retrograde planet

> has

> > its motion akin to the Nodes and hence they

> represent a curse from

> > our previous birth. The nature of curse and the

> circumstances can

> be

> > verified from the nature of planets and the houses

> they own in D-

> 60.

> > Ofcourse one needs to be an expert to decipher

> this chart

> accurately.

> >

> > Another effect of retrogression(as given by James

> Braha) is that

> the

> > quality of the planet which is retrograde

> manifests internally, and

> a

> > lot of effort or time is required for this to

> manifest externally.

> > The Retrograde planet is powerful on the internal

> level. On the

> outer

> > level it is never strong and active. It is neutral

> or passive.

> >

> > The externalization occurs if the person

> consciously decides to

> > activate the energy of the planet. Effects of

> Retrogression works

> on

> > the Natural(Karaka) level and Functional(House

> Rulership) level.

> >

> > Example:

> >

> > A person with Jupiter® is continually

> approaching matters from a

> > philosophical context.

> >

> > A person with Venus® is constantly analyzing and

> thinking about

> > Love, Pleasures etc.

> >

> > A native with Retrograde 5L will have the the 5H

> energy latent and

> > may take time to have kids, the delay could be

> either in the form

> of

> > not wanting to have kids or problem in conception.

>

> >

> > A native with Retrograde 7L may not feel the need

> to get married,

> and

> > even if they want to, a lot of effort is required.

>

> >

> > Retrogression of 3L and 6L can make a person

> less-ambitious etc.

> >

> > Being closer to the earth, its effects are

> powerful in the sense

> that

> > it would make you work harder for the results.

> This effort is what

> is

> > known as Chestha. Hence a retrograde planet has

> Chestha Bala.

> >

> > So quite often retrogression energy may manifest

> as hobby(internal)

> > during the first 30yrs. After 30, depending on the

> maturity of the

> > individual, when the person starts using free-will

> and activates

> the

> > energy, the energy manifests in the outside world.

> >

> > If the 10L is Retrograde, the person may be slow

> in choosing his

> > career or actualize it.

> >

> > Generally retrogression of dusthana lords are

> considered good, as

> > their malicious effects take time to actualize.

> >

> > Similarly, a debilitated planet which is also

> retrograde, takes

> time

> > to manifest their negative effects, hence they

> say, that it behaves

> > like an exalted planet, although I feel that this

> is innacurate.

> >

> > In short the it takes time for the person to

> acualize his/her

> > abilities(depending on the planet, karaka and

> rulership) in the

> > outside world.

> >

> > I feel that retrogression of planets relating to

> transits, work on

> > the same level. A lot of effort is required. Old

> options are re-

> > visited. Remember how a Retrograde planet behaves

> akin to Nodes,

> > which are the cause of our re-birth. In the same

> way, during

> transit,

> > retrogression of a planet, may indicate, a curse

> taking effect, and

> > hence caution is generally advised and no new work

> is taken up.

> >

> > On the positive side, retrogression signals a

> chance given by

> > God/Superunknown to reform, hence new

> oppurtunities are provided.

> Any

> > mistaskes made previously can be rectified and

> lessons can be

> learnt.

> > That is what everything boils down to. Karma &

> Re-birth.

> >

> > Finally, to summarize, Retrograde planets dont

> cause harm and they

> > are not afflicted, but, they do slow down things

> and make for an

> > introverted , rather than extroverted, energy.

> >

> > Hope this helps.

> >

> > Regards

> > Narayan

> >

> > vedic astrology, "nadia" <NADIAK@O...>

> wrote:

> > > Hari Om,

>

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Dear list,

M C Jain's book 'Karmic Control Planets' describes how Rahu and Ketu indicate

and control man's destinity in this respect of birth and rebirth.

 

Shiv Chadha

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Rajinder Nath

vedic astrology

Friday, January 11, 2002 2:56 AM

Re: [vedic astrology] Re: Question about Retrogrades-dear friends

> >dear partha,thanks for the reading on my chart why you think retro plant

could be curse from pastlives. i am sure you know about Bhesheam pitamahehe

kept his word rather than obey the guru the gurudid not cue=rse him rather gave

way to siddi the womenwho cause his death in next life.sincerelyrajinder> > > >

> > > > vedic astrology, "iyergroups"> <iyer_astro@m...> wrote:> >

Om Namo Bhagavate Jagannathaya> > > > Dear Bindu,> > > > Firstly, the Nodes are

the cause of rebirth. A> retrograde planet > has > > its motion akin to the

Nodes and hence they> represent a curse from > > our previous birth. The nature

of curse and the> circumstances can > be > > verified from the nature of planets

and the houses> they own in D-> 60. > > Ofcourse one needs to be an expert to

decipher> this chart > accurately.> > > > Another effect of retrogression(as

given by James> Braha) is that > the > > quality of the planet which is

retrograde> manifests internally, and > a > > lot of effort or time is required

for this to> manifest externally. > > The Retrograde planet is powerful on the

internal> level. On the > outer > > level it is never strong and active. It is

neutral> or passive.> > > > The externalization occurs if the person>

consciously decides to > > activate the energy of the planet. Effects of>

Retrogression works > on > > the Natural(Karaka) level and Functional(House>

Rulership) level.> > > > Example: > > > > A person with Jupiter® is

continually> approaching matters from a > > philosophical context.> > > > A

person with Venus® is constantly analyzing and> thinking about > > Love,

Pleasures etc. > > > > A native with Retrograde 5L will have the the 5H> energy

latent and > > may take time to have kids, the delay could be> either in the

form > of > > not wanting to have kids or problem in conception.> > > > > A

native with Retrograde 7L may not feel the need> to get married, > and > > even

if they want to, a lot of effort is required.> > > > > Retrogression of 3L and

6L can make a person> less-ambitious etc.> > > > Being closer to the earth, its

effects are> powerful in the sense > that > > it would make you work harder for

the results.> This effort is what > is > > known as Chestha. Hence a retrograde

planet has> Chestha Bala. > > > > So quite often retrogression energy may

manifest> as hobby(internal) > > during the first 30yrs. After 30, depending on

the> maturity of the > > individual, when the person starts using free-will> and

activates > the > > energy, the energy manifests in the outside world.> > > > If

the 10L is Retrograde, the person may be slow> in choosing his > > career or

actualize it.> > > > Generally retrogression of dusthana lords are> considered

good, as > > their malicious effects take time to actualize.> > > > Similarly,

a debilitated planet which is also> retrograde, takes > time > > to manifest

their negative effects, hence they> say, that it behaves > > like an exalted

planet, although I feel that this> is innacurate.> > > > In short the it takes

time for the person to> acualize his/her > > abilities(depending on the planet,

karaka and> rulership) in the > > outside world.> > > > I feel that

retrogression of planets relating to> transits, work on > > the same level. A

lot of effort is required. Old> options are re-> > visited. Remember how a

Retrograde planet behaves> akin to Nodes, > > which are the cause of our

re-birth. In the same> way, during > transit, > > retrogression of a planet,

may indicate, a curse> taking effect, and > > hence caution is generally

advised and no new work> is taken up. > > > > On the positive side,

retrogression signals a> chance given by > > God/Superunknown to reform, hence

new> oppurtunities are provided. > Any > > mistaskes made previously can be

rectified and> lessons can be > learnt. > > That is what everything boils down

to. Karma &> Re-birth.> > > > Finally, to summarize, Retrograde planets dont>

cause harm and they > > are not afflicted, but, they do slow down things> and

make for an > > introverted , rather than extroverted, energy.> > > > Hope this

helps.> > > > Regards> > Narayan> > > > vedic astrology, "nadia"

<NADIAK@O...>> wrote:> > > Hari Om,> === message truncated

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