Kalas,dear freinds and co(from discussions from Ramas chart)

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dear friends ,

 

there are some people in this list, who are quite capapble of

bringing down a person throuhg negative energy. i can see all, but

instead of using too harsh words this time i wuold request u all to

see what was posted by my dear friends who are hell bent to tarnish

me , please see below what actually happended

 

vedic astrology, "partvinu5" <partvinu5> wrote:

dear visti

>

> you are technically wrong when you say that rama and krishna had

some rajo guna. this doesnot sound good. they are avataars for a

purpose.

> Thier actions cannot be compared to that of simple humans. For

every action they performed their is a reason.

> i will give you a simple analogy

> see many people talk about the killing of vaali by rama.

> Vaali represents the inner desires that are too great to

vanquish.

> The insatiable desires are represented by vaali.

> A person cannot sit in the front of a tv and watch all kind of

> stuff and say that he can conquor indriyas(senses)

> you have to conquor the senses by avaoiding such impulses, in

> retrospect you have to attack them from behind.

> Rama is purshottama, he is the god. he represents the atman in

> ramayana, he conqours the senses(vaali) with the help of sugrreva

(the facilitator).

> the whole ramayana is full of symbolism. dont equate the actions

of gods with that of ordinary people..

> regards partha

 

 

This was the message that was posted by mr.ash for an innocuous

message that i had posted that u have seen just now

 

vedic astrology, "ashsam73" <ashsam73@h...> wrote:

> Dear Partha,

>

> Ram and Krishna are avtars of god that took the form of a human

> being and did the deeds that we humans can try to understand and

comphrehended and relate to with our limited intellegence.

Do you really think that we humans in kali yuga can really do

> justice

> to the charts of human form of god ?

> Cheers !!!

> Just my penny,

> Ash

 

 

 

dear friends , i know it is difficult to see the point of partha

sarathy because of his temparamental nature. but kindly carefull look

in the above messages, i just pointed out the greatness of ramam

andkrishna, for which mr.ash had repled in affirmative. now see my

response to his affirmation. i had posted this in agreement to

mr.ash's message above

 

In vedic astrology, "partvinu5" <partvinu5> wrote:

> dear ash

 

> this is precisely that i was trying to point out. in the age of

> dharma standing at one leg, how can foolish mortals like us dare

> to > attempt the charts of bhagvaan.

> regards

> partha

 

see my message was in affirmation to what mr.ash had said. what i

meant by foolish was that we are too litttle to understand the leelas

of bhagvaan, lst make their charts. so till now we both(ash and me

were in agreement) now see the kahani mein twist

 

 

> vedic astrology, "ashsam73" <ashsam73@h...> wrote:

> Dear Partha,

> First things first, we are all not foolish mortals, mortals yes

but not foolish... if we all were foolish all of us would stagnate

all of

> us have evolved over centuries after centuries.. today what we are

> is due to the humans need to self improvise... i really do not

think > that foolish mortals would have done that.. there is a bigger

> picture out there..... Do not tell me that God made foolish

people... if you

> > have read the first lesson that Gurudev Sanjay taught us, he

asked us a wonderful question, Which of the statements is right..

All is God or God is All.. ponder about this question for a while

before making > such drastic statements. What we all can do is try

to better > ourselves, despite knowing of our weakness and

vunlability.. that is > what makes us Humans. Chart of the mortal

form of Sri Ram Chandra

> or Sri Krishna is what helps us to understand his form and purpose

on this earth, with those charts you could learn a lot on how to

carry yourself in public, your duties respect for wife etc...

> So try to look at things from a different prespective.

> There are various approaches but the Truth is just one.

> Cheers !!!

> Ash

 

now what was so provocative in my message to warrant mr.ash's

outburst. kindly note that i am not a lawyer, i am just asking u to

introspect, see this exercise is not to show myself in better light

or show mr.ash in a dimmer light. but to present the facts. if a

small word like foolish can cause so much rhetoric, i am really

bewildered. from next time i would have to think about my grammtical

fromation of sentences and refer oxford dictionary all the time.

 

see below the comments of mr. jaan , is it absoultely warranted ,

please note below

 

vedic astrology, "ray1k" <kgrap@b...> wrote:

> Dear Ash

>

> i must commend you on your patience. we are all foolish in some way

> or other but some are so much more foolish than others...( this is

> likely to upset those foolish ones out there so i apologise in

> advance )

> love

> jaan

 

 

see he is indirectly assaulting my credibility, my intelligence. the

guy who has posted more messages than mr.jaan is me. the guy who has

helped more people in this list is me than mr.jaan ofcourse. many

people in the list are afraid to come out in open to support my views

just bcose they are different. stating ones opinion is not wrong, but

to vehmently attack a person is unpardonable.

 

please think abt it. in case mr.ash feels that he has told me that

god is all and all is god, then he may refer to my discussions with

sri.sanjay rath, in this very list, i had qouted the same thing. i

discussed abt bhakthi vedanta and philosophy with him. so he may not

remind me of what i had said to me.

 

 

best regards

partha sarathy

 

 

p.s: i hope mr.jaan and mr.ash are following my posts also, otherwise

they would develop very skewed opionion of me.

 

dear ash

 

the people who are good at backstabbing can become good politicians.

i see a bright future for your political career.

[Guest guest]

Dear Partha,

 

if you wish to help, then please answer the chart on maternity with

some remedial advice as soon as possible.

 

love

jaan

 

 

 

 

vedic astrology, "partvinu5" <partvinu5> wrote:

> dear friends ,

>

> there are some people in this list, who are quite capapble of

> bringing down a person throuhg negative energy. i can see all, but

> instead of using too harsh words this time i wuold request u all to

> see what was posted by my dear friends who are hell bent to tarnish

> me , please see below what actually happended

>

> vedic astrology, "partvinu5" <partvinu5> wrote:

> dear visti

> >

> > you are technically wrong when you say that rama and krishna had

> some rajo guna. this doesnot sound good. they are avataars for a

> purpose.

> > Thier actions cannot be compared to that of simple humans. For

> every action they performed their is a reason.

> > i will give you a simple analogy

> > see many people talk about the killing of vaali by rama.

> > Vaali represents the inner desires that are too great to

> vanquish.

> > The insatiable desires are represented by vaali.

> > A person cannot sit in the front of a tv and watch all kind of

> > stuff and say that he can conquor indriyas(senses)

> > you have to conquor the senses by avaoiding such impulses, in

> > retrospect you have to attack them from behind.

> > Rama is purshottama, he is the god. he represents the atman in

> > ramayana, he conqours the senses(vaali) with the help of sugrreva

> (the facilitator).

> > the whole ramayana is full of symbolism. dont equate the

actions

> of gods with that of ordinary people..

> > regards partha

>

>

> This was the message that was posted by mr.ash for an innocuous

> message that i had posted that u have seen just now

>

> vedic astrology, "ashsam73" <ashsam73@h...> wrote:

> > Dear Partha,

> >

> > Ram and Krishna are avtars of god that took the form of a human

> > being and did the deeds that we humans can try to understand

and

> comphrehended and relate to with our limited intellegence.

> Do you really think that we humans in kali yuga can really do

> > justice

> > to the charts of human form of god ?

> > Cheers !!!

> > Just my penny,

> > Ash

>

>

>

> dear friends , i know it is difficult to see the point of partha

> sarathy because of his temparamental nature. but kindly carefull

look

> in the above messages, i just pointed out the greatness of ramam

> andkrishna, for which mr.ash had repled in affirmative. now see my

> response to his affirmation. i had posted this in agreement to

> mr.ash's message above

>

> In vedic astrology, "partvinu5" <partvinu5> wrote:

> > dear ash

>

> > this is precisely that i was trying to point out. in the age of

> > dharma standing at one leg, how can foolish mortals like us dare

> > to > attempt the charts of bhagvaan.

> > regards

> > partha

>

> see my message was in affirmation to what mr.ash had said. what i

> meant by foolish was that we are too litttle to understand the

leelas

> of bhagvaan, lst make their charts. so till now we both(ash and me

> were in agreement) now see the kahani mein twist

>

>

> > vedic astrology, "ashsam73" <ashsam73@h...> wrote:

> > Dear Partha,

> > First things first, we are all not foolish mortals, mortals yes

> but not foolish... if we all were foolish all of us would

stagnate

> all of

> > us have evolved over centuries after centuries.. today what we

are

> > is due to the humans need to self improvise... i really do not

> think > that foolish mortals would have done that.. there is a

bigger

> > picture out there..... Do not tell me that God made foolish

> people... if you

> > > have read the first lesson that Gurudev Sanjay taught us, he

> asked us a wonderful question, Which of the statements is

right..

> All is God or God is All.. ponder about this question for a while

> before making > such drastic statements. What we all can do is

try

> to better > ourselves, despite knowing of our weakness and

> vunlability.. that is > what makes us Humans. Chart of the

mortal

> form of Sri Ram Chandra

> > or Sri Krishna is what helps us to understand his form and

purpose

> on this earth, with those charts you could learn a lot on how to

> carry yourself in public, your duties respect for wife etc...

> > So try to look at things from a different prespective.

> > There are various approaches but the Truth is just one.

> > Cheers !!!

> > Ash

>

> now what was so provocative in my message to warrant mr.ash's

> outburst. kindly note that i am not a lawyer, i am just asking u to

> introspect, see this exercise is not to show myself in better light

> or show mr.ash in a dimmer light. but to present the facts. if a

> small word like foolish can cause so much rhetoric, i am really

> bewildered. from next time i would have to think about my

grammtical

> fromation of sentences and refer oxford dictionary all the time.

>

> see below the comments of mr. jaan , is it absoultely warranted ,

> please note below

>

> vedic astrology, "ray1k" <kgrap@b...> wrote:

> > Dear Ash

> >

> > i must commend you on your patience. we are all foolish in some

way

> > or other but some are so much more foolish than others...( this

is

> > likely to upset those foolish ones out there so i apologise in

> > advance )

> > love

> > jaan

>

>

> see he is indirectly assaulting my credibility, my intelligence.

the

> guy who has posted more messages than mr.jaan is me. the guy who

has

> helped more people in this list is me than mr.jaan ofcourse. many

> people in the list are afraid to come out in open to support my

views

> just bcose they are different. stating ones opinion is not wrong,

but

> to vehmently attack a person is unpardonable.

>

> please think abt it. in case mr.ash feels that he has told me that

> god is all and all is god, then he may refer to my discussions with

> sri.sanjay rath, in this very list, i had qouted the same thing. i

> discussed abt bhakthi vedanta and philosophy with him. so he may

not

> remind me of what i had said to me.

>

>

> best regards

> partha sarathy

>

>

> p.s: i hope mr.jaan and mr.ash are following my posts also,

otherwise

> they would develop very skewed opionion of me.

>

> dear ash

>

> the people who are good at backstabbing can become good

politicians.

> i see a bright future for your political career.